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Seriously, how can anyone support this?

Where did the logical open minded Fatoiggy go?
He went out the door with the judicial tyranny. He is standing up for democracy and the will of the people.

I think democrats run the risk of getting non-violent illegals tossed out of the country.

If you won't deport the bad guys, maybe we should just deport them all.
 
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He went out the door with the judicial tyranny. He is standing up for democracy and the will of the people.

I think democrats run the risk of getting non-violent illegals tossed out of the country.

If you won't deport the bad guys, maybe we should just deport them all.

Or, you know, follow the laws of our country.
 
Ask the judges. They make that decision.

That's how it's supposed to work.
Thats the point.

The judges aren't judges at all. They are actvists. What other conclusion is there to draw when there is such inconsistency?

The judicial system is being exposed in front of our eyes right now.
 
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There is no bias in the judiciary!

That argument is losing water by the second.

We are heading for major trouble.

Who owns this country? Americans or illegals?

 
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There is no bias in the judiciary!

That argument is losing water by the second.

We are heading for major trouble.

Who owns this country? Americans or illegals?

Pretty reckless behavior on their part. However there are lots of judges out there, some bad, some good, not sure I want to condemn the entire judiciary based on two derelicts.
 
Pretty reckless behavior on their part. However there are lots of judges out there, some bad, some good, not sure I want to condemn the entire judiciary based on two derelicts.
And neither do I.

But let’s not pretend judges are unbiased and infallible.

These are the two we know about. Imagine how many we don’t know about.
 
We aren’t going to let this happen.

They did the same thing with Russian Collusion. That’s what happens when there is no accountability, it just happens again. This is how we know arrests are coming.




 
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Thats the point.

The judges aren't judges at all. They are actvists. What other conclusion is there to draw when there is such inconsistency?

The judicial system is being exposed in front of our eyes right now.

Ohhh, so MAGA is now claiming that the Judges, who went to law school, passed the Bar Exam, became judges, either by being elected, or by being appointed and confirmed aren't Judges?

Again, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong.
 
Ohhh, so MAGA is now claiming that the Judges, who went to law school, passed the Bar Exam, became judges, either by being elected, or by being appointed and confirmed aren't Judges?

Again, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong.
No. We are claiming they are crooked, corrupt judges. Just like the two who were just arrested.
 
So two bad apples make every single other judge in America corrupt? That's so stupid. Come on dude, you don't believe that
And you think those are the only two rotten ones?

If we know about two of them, that means there are a lot more just keep digging through the bag. We both know that.

You can't sit here and say "ask the judges" and then have two judges that just got arrested!!!!

What a bad look for dems.
 
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And you think those are the only two rotten ones?

If we know about two of them, that means there are a lot more just keep digging through the bag. We both know that.

You can't sit here and say "ask the judges" and then have two judges that just got arrested!!!!

What a bad look for dems.


You need a hug Bro? Maybe disconnect for a couple days so you can deal with all the grief from all the losing. I'm worried about you.
 
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Oh, and maybe worry about your pary's 20% approval rating.

Corrupt judges probably have something to do with that. Immigration is an 80-20 issue and main stream dems don't want to see judges breaking the law to harbor illegal immigrants.

Really a bad look. Wouldn't shock me if they fall down in to the teens.

And talk about how they are totally out of touch with reality? Socialist AOC is their leading candidate in a capitalist society. LOL

JD Vance might moonwalk into the presidency.
 
Anybody else feels like every few days something isn't right with Ole Fastball? You bounce from reasonable to mad and crazy faster than anybody I've ever seen.

I'm feeling like they need to adjust you meds a bit.
 
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She let a fugitive of justice escape out the back door of her courtoom.

And these assholes say "trust the judiciary"

Nope. Time to say fvck em.
 
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Anybody else feels like every few days something isn't right with Ole Fastball? You bounce from reasonable to mad and crazy faster than anybody I've ever seen.

I'm feeling like they need to adjust you meds a bit.
I see you resort to your personal attacks when your argument can't hold water.

You arent much better than @okclem in that regard. Pretty pathetic company.
 
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Do you feel this way about the bad cops?
I don't know how the hierarchy works in the courtroom. But every courtroom i have ever been in the Judge is the boss.

IF the cops disobeyed orders, then they should be held accountable.

Corruption, no matter where it may be, must be rooted out. Our nation has lost it's way.

Until we start prosecuting the offenders, We The People will lose.

Everyone, Republicans and Democrats, should want to compete on an even playing field.
 
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I don't know how the hierarchy works in the courtroom. But every courtroom i have ever been in the Judge is the boss.

IF the cops disobeyed orders, then they should be held accountable.

Corruption, no matter where it may be, must be rooted out. Our nation has lost it's way.

Until we start prosecuting the offenders, We The People will lose.

Everyone, Republicans and Democrats, should want to compete on an even playing field.
That seems to be what is happening? I agree we should all follow the law of the land.
 
I don't know how the hierarchy works in the courtroom. But every courtroom i have ever been in the Judge is the boss.

IF the cops disobeyed orders, then they should be held accountable.

Corruption, no matter where it may be, must be rooted out. Our nation has lost it's way.

Until we start prosecuting the offenders, We The People will lose.

Everyone, Republicans and Democrats, should want to compete on an even playing field.

You don't want an even playing field. You want MAGA to get anything they want, no matter the law, since they won an election.

You really want to set that precedent forever?
 
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I'll be waiting for more info to come out, but it's funny Patel immediately deleted the tweet. The affidavit is an interesting read - 2 FBI, 2 DEA, 1 CBP, 1 ICE agent were all there waiting in the court lobby to arrest this guy due to an administrative - not judicial - warrant. Going to be interesting to see how it plays out - it seems like the affidavit all hinges on testimony from the court deputy.
 
Not a good look. Judicial corruption right before our eyes.

LOL at this reply in the comments

Barry Bin Lyin

Gee, I missed your daily hair flip on FOX you useless c*** . Where's the Epstein/Diddy files? Stop protecting Pedophiles & do your job? Stop pandering & treating us like we are low IQPedorat voters that believe any lie, we aren't stupid. Stop sending us insignificant sacrifices.
 
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It must be riveting to go through life completely dismissing anything you don't want to believe because it challenges your world view. Ok, and when the courts ruled a week ago that the legal citizens had to be released was that also fake news?
You should know. 🤣😂😅
 
Its honestly not even debatable.

Trump is a fraud. The emperor has no clothes. He's a loudmouth rich kid who started between 3rd and home plate in life.

He has treated people abominably.

When you ask most MAGAs, while they like Trump it's a few different vague stuff, but for most it's some variation of "He tells it like it is"

He has fooled people into thinking lots of bluster and lots of words are equivalent to truth or knowledge. If you can force yourself, listen to his speeches for actual substance and ask yourself if you want to work for that guy.

It is debateable yoshtignoramus.
 
And here is a very plausible Motive for the Judicial coup. Correct census with no illegals to count will destroy the commie dems.

 
And here is a very plausible Motive for the Judicial coup. Correct census with no illegals to count will destroy the commie dems.

Yah, if you just keep saying it, it becomes true....unless you ask Grok. Funny how Elon's AI even fact-checks him. 🤣

Estimating the exact number of House seats Democrats would lose if undocumented immigrants were not counted for congressional apportionment is complex and depends on multiple factors, including population estimates, state demographics, and the apportionment formula. Various studies and analyses provide insights, but claims of precise figures, especially large ones, are often exaggerated or speculative.
Key Findings from Credible Analyses:
  1. Pew Research Center (2020):
    • If unauthorized immigrants were excluded from the 2020 census apportionment, California, Florida, and Texas would each lose one House seat, while Alabama, Minnesota, and Ohio would each gain one seat.

    • This results in a net shift of three seats. In partisan terms, the impact is roughly neutral: California (Democratic-leaning) and Texas/Florida (Republican-leaning) lose seats, while Alabama/Ohio (Republican-leaning) and Minnesota (Democratic-leaning) gain seats. Thus, no clear partisan advantage emerges.
  2. Center for Immigration Studies (CIS, 2019):
    • CIS estimated that illegal immigrants alone (not including legal immigrants) redistributed three seats in 2020. California and New York (Democratic-leaning) gained one seat each, and Texas (Republican-leaning) gained one, while Alabama, Ohio (Republican-leaning), and Minnesota (Democratic-leaning) each lost one.

    • The net partisan impact was minimal, with one Democratic state gaining a seat from a Republican state.
  3. PNAS Nexus (2025):
    • A recent study found that including undocumented residents in census apportionment has had "little impact" on House control or presidential elections historically. In 2020, California would have lost one seat if undocumented immigrants were excluded, with negligible effects elsewhere.

    • The study notes that the undocumented population in California has declined, reducing its impact compared to earlier decades.
  4. Claims of Larger Impacts:
    • Some sources, like posts on X, claim Democrats would lose 10 or even 20-30 seats if undocumented immigrants were excluded.
    • These figures are not supported by rigorous analyses. For example, a VERIFY fact-check found that excluding unauthorized immigrants would lead to California and Texas losing one seat each, with Ohio and Michigan gaining one each, resulting in no significant partisan shift.

    • Elon Musk’s claim of a 20-seat loss for Democrats was debunked by FactCheck.org, which noted that the impact of illegal immigrants is closer to a three-seat redistribution with no clear partisan tilt.
Why the Impact Is Limited:
  • Population Size: Undocumented immigrants are estimated to number around 10-11 million, roughly 3% of the U.S. population. Their uneven distribution affects some states more (e.g., California, Texas), but the overall impact on 435 House seats is small.

  • Apportionment Mechanics: The Method of Equal Proportions, used since 1941, assigns seats based on total population, and small population changes often don’t shift seats due to the fixed total of 435.


  • Partisan Balance: Both Democratic-leaning (e.g., California) and Republican-leaning (e.g., Texas, Florida) states have significant undocumented populations, balancing out partisan effects.


  • Constitutional Constraint: The 14th Amendment mandates counting the "whole number of persons" for apportionment, including non-citizens, so excluding undocumented immigrants would face legal challenges.

    Conclusion:
    If undocumented immigrants were not counted for apportionment, Democrats would likely lose 0-2 House seats net, far less than exaggerated claims of 10-30 seats. The effect is diluted by the distribution of undocumented immigrants across both blue and red states and the mechanics of apportionment. Any change would also require overcoming significant legal barriers. For further details, reputable sources like Pew Research or CIS provide balanced projections.

 
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Yah, if you just keep saying it, it becomes true....unless you ask Grok. Funny how Elon's AI even fact-checks him. 🤣

Estimating the exact number of House seats Democrats would lose if undocumented immigrants were not counted for congressional apportionment is complex and depends on multiple factors, including population estimates, state demographics, and the apportionment formula. Various studies and analyses provide insights, but claims of precise figures, especially large ones, are often exaggerated or speculative.
Key Findings from Credible Analyses:
  1. Pew Research Center (2020):
    • If unauthorized immigrants were excluded from the 2020 census apportionment, California, Florida, and Texas would each lose one House seat, while Alabama, Minnesota, and Ohio would each gain one seat.

    • This results in a net shift of three seats. In partisan terms, the impact is roughly neutral: California (Democratic-leaning) and Texas/Florida (Republican-leaning) lose seats, while Alabama/Ohio (Republican-leaning) and Minnesota (Democratic-leaning) gain seats. Thus, no clear partisan advantage emerges.
  2. Center for Immigration Studies (CIS, 2019):
    • CIS estimated that illegal immigrants alone (not including legal immigrants) redistributed three seats in 2020. California and New York (Democratic-leaning) gained one seat each, and Texas (Republican-leaning) gained one, while Alabama, Ohio (Republican-leaning), and Minnesota (Democratic-leaning) each lost one.

    • The net partisan impact was minimal, with one Democratic state gaining a seat from a Republican state.
  3. PNAS Nexus (2025):
    • A recent study found that including undocumented residents in census apportionment has had "little impact" on House control or presidential elections historically. In 2020, California would have lost one seat if undocumented immigrants were excluded, with negligible effects elsewhere.

    • The study notes that the undocumented population in California has declined, reducing its impact compared to earlier decades.
  4. Claims of Larger Impacts:
    • Some sources, like posts on X, claim Democrats would lose 10 or even 20-30 seats if undocumented immigrants were excluded.
    • These figures are not supported by rigorous analyses. For example, a VERIFY fact-check found that excluding unauthorized immigrants would lead to California and Texas losing one seat each, with Ohio and Michigan gaining one each, resulting in no significant partisan shift.

    • Elon Musk’s claim of a 20-seat loss for Democrats was debunked by FactCheck.org, which noted that the impact of illegal immigrants is closer to a three-seat redistribution with no clear partisan tilt.
Why the Impact Is Limited:
  • Population Size: Undocumented immigrants are estimated to number around 10-11 million, roughly 3% of the U.S. population. Their uneven distribution affects some states more (e.g., California, Texas), but the overall impact on 435 House seats is small.

  • Apportionment Mechanics: The Method of Equal Proportions, used since 1941, assigns seats based on total population, and small population changes often don’t shift seats due to the fixed total of 435.


  • Partisan Balance: Both Democratic-leaning (e.g., California) and Republican-leaning (e.g., Texas, Florida) states have significant undocumented populations, balancing out partisan effects.


  • Constitutional Constraint: The 14th Amendment mandates counting the "whole number of persons" for apportionment, including non-citizens, so excluding undocumented immigrants would face legal challenges.

    Conclusion:
    If undocumented immigrants were not counted for apportionment, Democrats would likely lose 0-2 House seats net, far less than exaggerated claims of 10-30 seats. The effect is diluted by the distribution of undocumented immigrants across both blue and red states and the mechanics of apportionment. Any change would also require overcoming significant legal barriers. For further details, reputable sources like Pew Research or CIS provide balanced projections.

Don't care what grok has to say.
 
Don't care what grok has to say.
I believe you - if you didn't have an army of disinformation agents peddling hot trash for you to spread, you'd be lost.

If Your Time is short​

  • Before an anonymous X account called “Amuse” amassed 603,000 followers including some of the nation’s leading MAGA figures, its owner, Alexander Muse, spent years building a brand as a conservative political pundit.
  • The X account regularly shares falsehoods that billionaire X owner and Trump adviser Elon Musk and others sometimes amplify. Other followers include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and U.S. Agency for Global Media adviser Kari Lake.
  • Experts who study political discourse on social media said it is increasingly common to see Musk and other prominent conservatives regularly engage with anonymous internet users, sometimes cherry-picking posts to amplify that align with their existing worldview or policies.
 
And neither do I.

But let’s not pretend judges are unbiased and infallible.

These are the two we know about. Imagine how many we don’t know about.
Well you actually do and just did.

You saw judicial tyranny on twitter and thought “oh yeah that sounds good”.

The people who screamed “Think for yourself” for so long, follow the headmaster orders so well.
 
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