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So I met Herschel last night

I'm pretty sure there was a congressman from GA I saw during debates about sending aide to Haiti a few years ago. During the debate he was giving reasons for increased aide. One of them was that since all of the people there had fled to one side of the island, he was afraid it was going to tip over. There should be a minimum IQ to serve in govt.
 
Not when candidates continuously make their religious beliefs part of their campaign and when they make it clear that their religious beliefs will guide their decision making if elected.
You mean like much of the Founding Fathers dialouge and writings, even rich, world-changing historical documents.

Were those bad ideas too?

You folks just keep re-writing history.
Seems to keep a lot of folks occupied.
 
I'm pretty sure there was a congressman from GA I saw during debates about sending aide to Haiti a few years ago. During the debate he was giving reasons for increased aide. One of them was that since all of the people there had fled to one side of the island, he was afraid it was going to tip over. There should be a minimum IQ to serve in govt.

Seriously. I really do wish this was the case. It would sure help eliminate all the queations about being fit to serve.

I got very tired of listening to Trump tout his IQ, I likewise worry about Biden's competency at his age. I would also be in fa or of an age limit to serve as president, but good look getting the AARP to allow that yo happen
 
It's sad that one state has that many people running for office who are pretty embarrassing. I would argue MGT is worse than Stacey Abrams, MGT is shockingly dumb.

You need an MGT to balance out idiots like AOC, Talib, Hank Johnson (another genius from GA), Swallwell, etcm
 
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It's sad that one state has that many people running for office who are pretty embarrassing. I would argue MGT is worse than Stacey Abrams, MGT is shockingly dumb.

Anyone worth a damn eschews politics and goes to make a fortune in the corporate world. Which leaves us voters to choose among the self-obsessed ass-kissers who are the loudest (both sides). What a mess...
 
AOC/Omar/etc isn't in the same stratosphere of awfulness as MGT

not by a wide margin
As a honest independent, and I say this with peace and love to all Dems and Pubs…..

The constant analysis of my team isn’t as bad as your team mentality is the reason why these pathetic people are voted in. And it will only get worse because you refuse to take a stand on the deplorables and the political leaders that enable them.

So yes, if you are CARD CARRYING Pub or Dem, you are the problem. If you care about the country, eliminate the parasites and support those who are trying to uphold the Constitution and not raging pieces of sh** you elect.

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The counter of if I don’t support them then the other team will then win mentality will drive you to vote more freaks because you don’t have a moral compass of a quality individual that represents the people.
 
i wouldnt go that far...they are suck pretty equally
say what you will about their political beliefs, at least AOC/Omar/etc seem to actually contribute on committees and seem like they want to make the country better. you may not agree with what they want to do or their beliefs, but they seem to want to help the lower class.

mgt is a shitposter who got elected to office
 
Seriously. I really do wish this was the case. It would sure help eliminate all the queations about being fit to serve.

I got very tired of listening to Trump tout his IQ, I likewise worry about Biden's competency at his age. I would also be in fa or of an age limit to serve as president, but good look getting the AARP to allow that yo happen
Trump was a narcissistic ass who I wish had been a mute. If Trump were anywhere close to as smart as he thought he was, he would still be potus. His touting his IQ was just ridiculous. He was not dumb, from an IQ standpoint, but he wasn't on the top half of the modern day potus list. I'd argue Biden was in the bottom 25% 10 yrs ago, and think it is obvious he has had a severe mental decline since then. IQ isn't everything, mind you. I think Carter's IQ was probably plenty high enough but he was one of the worst ever. Still, there should be some minimum standards for each level of service.
As far as intelligence standards, it will never happen. If it is ever mentioned, the first thing you here is that it is racist.
 
say what you will about their political beliefs, at least AOC/Omar/etc seem to actually contribute on committees and seem like they want to make the country better. you may not agree with what they want to do or their beliefs, but they seem to want to help the lower class.

mgt is a shitposter who got elected to office

I would agree with this. I don't agree with most of their politics,but I do feel like they have actual beliefs and want what they think is best.

MGT, Cawthorn,Gaetz seem to just want to be there.

That said, I do also agree that's its sad sometimes who our best options are. I really wish we had some smarter candidates. That's partly why I liked Buttigieg, don't agree on all topics,but the dude is smart as hell and pretty damn well roundex.
 
say what you will about their political beliefs, at least AOC/Omar/etc seem to actually contribute on committees and seem like they want to make the country better. you may not agree with what they want to do or their beliefs, but they seem to want to help the lower class.

mgt is a shitposter who got elected to office
i can see where you are coming from, but i just dont see anything redeeming about any of them from the outside looking in
 
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Old girl conceded the next morning now didn't she?
This is from oct 2020. I'm am pretty good at math and can tell you for sure this was after the next morning.

 
This is from oct 2020. I'm am pretty good at math and can tell you for sure this was after the next morning.

I know in your world a Republican plotting a coup is the same thing as a Democrat jaywalking, but she's been very clear in the past that she didn't mean she thought the votes weren't real - she meant the voters were influenced by Russian propaganda and by Comey reopening the email investigation right before the election.
 
I know in your world a Republican plotting a coup is the same thing as a Democrat jaywalking, but she's been very clear in the past that she didn't mean she thought the votes weren't real - she meant the voters were influenced by Russian propaganda and by Comey reopening the email investigation right before the election.
That is revisionist history on her part after it became unpopular to question the legitimacy of an election.

“But you don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’ That was a deep sense of unease.”

This quote from the article does not seem to support that. This is more like how could I get more votes and lose? Not, I think people were persuaded to vote a certain way by Russia.

Also, let's not forget tat dems questioned both the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections after that had been certified. No Russia interference on those was there?
 
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Walker is a creationist who believes the earth is 7,000 years old and the Bible is literal. This alone should disqualify him from holding any public office.
I love some of your posts, but is this a hot take or do you have substance to support your belief that early earth creationists or theologically conservatives shouldn't hold political office?
 
Not when candidates continuously make their religious beliefs part of their campaign and when they make it clear that their religious beliefs will guide their decision making if elected.
All people have presuppositions that help form beliefs. Those beliefs in turn develop a hierarchical value system or worldview. That same value system would drive a politician to "guide their decision making".
 
to play devil's advocate, i don't believe anyone who fails to recognize even basic science (for instance the earth being much older than 7k years old) should hold public office. it's one of those things that isn't a "belief" it's a provable fact.
 
to play devil's advocate, i don't believe anyone who fails to recognize even basic science (for instance the earth being much older than 7k years old) should hold public office. it's one of those things that isn't a "belief" it's a provable fact.
The play devil's advocate, support you belief that public office holders can't be early earth creationists.
 
You need Jesus!!
I’ve got him, thank you.

I’m not sure what you inferred from my comment, but what I was trying to say is that I think mental illness and depression is something people should be talking about and shouldn’t be hiding.

I’m genuinely concerned about the growing rate of depression and suicide in young people all across our country including some close to me. It seems to me like Herschel could make a difference because of his unique background and platform.
 
why does it have to be either or?
Data derived from emperical observational Science is what most people mean by trusting "science". Although, that can not be used without a measure of trust, (hypothesis, educated guess, or faith. Use which ever word you chose) when dealing with a topic like earth age. Historical science is used for interpretation of past events. It basically means that data is collected and the rest is filled in with best guesses. Historical science requires science + faith, and that is the "science" used mostly in an old earth discussion.

By the way, not all creationists or followers of intelligent design theory are early earthers.
 
Data derived from emperical observational Science is what most people mean by trusting "science". Although, that can not be used without a measure of trust, (hypothesis, educated guess, or faith. Use which ever word you chose) when dealing with a topic like earth age. Historical science is used for interpretation of past events. It basically means that data is collected and the rest is filled in with best guesses. Historical science requires science + faith, and that is the "science" used mostly in an old earth discussion.

By the way, not all creationists or followers of intelligent design theory are early earthers.

I agree with the last line, but Walker is an early earth guy. He has stated that.

I am a Christian and believe in the idea of intelligent design. However, much like as spelled out in the Scopes monkey trial, I don't believe it has to be literal to be true. Plenty of evidence supports that the world is older than 7000 years.

The Bible literalists are just frankly ignorant. The inerrant word statement is laughable when there are contradictions in the Bible.
 
Data derived from emperical observational Science is what most people mean by trusting "science". Although, that can not be used without a measure of trust, (hypothesis, educated guess, or faith. Use which ever word you chose) when dealing with a topic like earth age. Historical science is used for interpretation of past events. It basically means that data is collected and the rest is filled in with best guesses. Historical science requires science + faith, and that is the "science" used mostly in an old earth discussion.

By the way, not all creationists or followers of intelligent design theory are early earthers.
i get that, but you can use both scientific approaches to answer certain questions, specifically as it relates to things involving ancient earth. geologists can study the oldest rocks on earth for evidence of the first life, but they can also go to the lab and recreate the conditions of early earth to test predictions of hypothesis about events billions of years ago.

edit: and i agree with your last sentence. i know plenty of creationists that don't believe the earth is 7k years old
 
i get that, but you can use both scientific approaches to answer certain questions, specifically as it relates to things involving ancient earth. geologists can study the oldest rocks on earth for evidence of the first life, but they can also go to the lab and recreate the conditions of early earth to test predictions of hypothesis about events billions of years ago.

edit: and i agree with your last sentence. i know plenty of creationists that don't believe the earth is 7k years old
The last sentence was stated mostly for the atheist readers that choose to justify their unbelief because of discussions on earth age.
 
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