Stanford Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death

[TigerGrowls]

Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

A recent study reported by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

By Joe Hoft
Published April 19, 2021 at 10:00am

A recent Stanford study released by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. ​

NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr. Baruch Vainshelboim (Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States).
NOQ Report uncovered the study:

Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech.
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Instead, a DuckDuckGo search reveals it was picked up by ZERO mainstream media outlets and Big Tech tyrants will suspend people who post it, as political strategist Steve Cortes learned the hard way when he posted a Tweet that went against the face mask narrative. The Tweet itself featured a quote and a link that prompted Twitter to suspend his account, potentially indefinitely.

The NCBI study begins with the following abstract:

Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ efficacy is lacking, adverse physiological, psychological and health effects are established. Is has been hypothesized that facemasks have compromised safety and efficacy profile and should be avoided from use. The current article comprehensively summarizes scientific evidences with respect to wearing facemasks in the COVID-19 era, providing prosper information for public health and decisions making.

The study concludes (emphasis added):

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

Here is the table for physiological and psychological effects of wearing a facemask:

Here is the full study:
Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis by Baruch Vainshelboim by Jim Hoft on Scribd

What an absolute joke. American has been led down an insane path of wearing masks that don’t prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and cause more health risk than ever imagined.​

Copyright and license information of the research:

Since January 2020 Elsevier has created a COVID-19 resource centre with free information in English and Mandarin on the novel coronavirus COVID-19. The COVID-19 resource centre is hosted on Elsevier Connect, the company’s public news and information website. Elsevier hereby grants permission to make all its COVID-19-related research that is available on the COVID-19 resource centre – including this research content – immediately available in PubMed Central and other publicly funded repositories, such as the WHO COVID database with rights for unrestricted research re-use and analyses in any form or by any means with acknowledgement of the original source. These permissions are granted for free by Elsevier for as long as the COVID-19 resource centre remains active.

 

[TuesdayJ]

TLDR- the holes in masks are 1000 times larger than the virus.

ONE THOUSAND TIMES BIGGER.

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

Welp, luckily I havent worn a mask in about 9 months.

 

[adgjunior]

Alright, who left The Round Table door open and let OP escape?

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

i pretty much have quit wearing a mask

my grandchildren have been going to school all year in person

so you can figure where I stand

 

[DieHard4Clemson]

I’ve quit wearing masks.

 

[clemsonu0219]

This is completely obvious to anyone willing to actually think about it logically, IMO.

 

[MKOTiger]

Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

A recent study reported by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

By Joe Hoft
Published April 19, 2021 at 10:00am

A recent Stanford study released by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. ​

NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr. Baruch Vainshelboim (Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States).
NOQ Report uncovered the study:


The NCBI study begins with the following abstract:

The study concludes (emphasis added):


Here is the table for physiological and psychological effects of wearing a facemask:

Here is the full study:
Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis by Baruch Vainshelboim by Jim Hoft on Scribd

What an absolute joke. American has been led down an insane path of wearing masks that don’t prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and cause more health risk than ever imagined.​

Copyright and license information of the research:

Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

A recent study reported by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

By Joe Hoft
Published April 19, 2021 at 10:00am

A recent Stanford study released by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. ​

NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr. Baruch Vainshelboim (Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States).
NOQ Report uncovered the study:


The NCBI study begins with the following abstract:

The study concludes (emphasis added):


Here is the table for physiological and psychological effects of wearing a facemask:

Here is the full study:
Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis by Baruch Vainshelboim by Jim Hoft on Scribd

What an absolute joke. American has been led down an insane path of wearing masks that don’t prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and cause more health risk than ever imagined.​

Copyright and license information of the research:

This is so ridiculous that it’s scary.

First, Joe Hart says the article unequivocally proves that masks don’t work. That could not be further from the truth. It’s just a theory that’s not supported by any real data, which is confirmed in the article itself. Hart further says it’s a study. in fact, there was no study done ... none. It’s just an opinion.

Second, it was published by a journal that was founded in order to publish outlandish theories that aren’t coauthored, peer reviewed or support by independent study or data. It’s a “think out of the box journal” that Hart communicates as main stream medical.

Third, the author is not a professor at Stanford and the article is not a Stanford study or publication, as Hart states. The author was a clinical exercise physiologist who worked at the hospital at Stanford. That doesn’t make it a Stanford supported document or supported by any medical research institution, which it is not.

this is an article worth reading but it in no way proves that face masks aren’t effective against Covid.

 

[diehardtiger1989]

I literally had a buddy tell me this weekend that he still wears a mask even though he’s vaccinated because “it looks good to the public.” He is very smart but I just shook my head.

 

[clemsonu0219]

This is so ridiculous that it’s scary.

First, Joe Hart says the article unequivocally proves that masks don’t work. That could not be further from the truth. It’s just a theory that’s not supported by any real data, which is confirmed in the article itself. Hart further says it’s a study. in fact, there was no study done ... none. It’s just an opinion .

Second, it was published by a journal that was founded in order to publish outlandish theories that aren’t coauthored, peer reviewed or support by independent study or data. It’s a think out of the box journal that Hart communicates as main stream medical.

Third, the author is not a professor at Stanford and the article is not a Stanford study or publication as Hart states. The author was a clinical exercise physiologist who worked at the hospital at Stanford. that doesn’t make a Stanford supported document or supported by any medical research institution, which it is not.

this is an article worth reading but it in no way proves (or even attempts to prove) that face masks aren’t effective against Covid.

I don’t necessarily disagree with much of your assessment completely excepting the last sentence:

1) Where are the articles proving the effectiveness of face coverings that specifically isolate them from other factors such as social distancing and hand washing/sanitizing, etc. In addition, such studies must account for the individual wearer being properly fitted, adjusting their covering, wearing it properly, etc. Generally this is done in a bubble which also excludes the fact that many are wearing the same covering over and over.

2) Where are the articles PRIOR TO NCOV19 that prove their effectiveness? IOW if they are currently effective, they should’ve been before NCOV19 for anything even remotely similar: I.e., droplets and aerosols.

Following the Scientific Method, we would not (and should not) implement something on a population level unless it has been demonstrated to be safe and effective, when tested against DB Placebo CG’s, individually.

 

[TuesdayJ]

This is so ridiculous that it’s scary.

First, Joe Hart says the article unequivocally proves that masks don’t work. That could not be further from the truth. It’s just a theory that’s not supported by any real data, which is confirmed in the article itself. Hart further says it’s a study. in fact, there was no study done ... none. It’s just an opinion .

Second, it was published by a journal that was founded in order to publish outlandish theories that aren’t coauthored, peer reviewed or support by independent study or data. It’s a think out of the box journal that Hart communicates as main stream medical.

Third, the author is not a professor at Stanford and the article is not a Stanford study or publication as Hart states. The author was a clinical exercise physiologist who worked at the hospital at Stanford. that doesn’t make a Stanford supported document or supported by any medical research institution, which it is not.

this is an article worth reading but it in no way proves (or even attempts to prove) that face masks aren’t effective against Covid.

did you see where it says the virus is ONE THOUSAND TIMES SMALLER than the space between the threads of the mask?

 

[MKOTiger]

I don’t necessarily disagree with much of your assessment completely excepting the last sentence:

1) Where are the articles proving the effectiveness of face coverings that specifically isolate them from other factors such as social distancing and hand washing/sanitizing, etc. In addition, such studies must account for the individual wearer being properly fitted, adjusting their covering, wearing it properly, etc. Generally this is done in a bubble which also excludes the fact that many are wearing the same covering over and over.

2) Where are the articles PRIOR TO NCOV19 that prove their effectiveness? IOW if they are currently effective, they should’ve been before NCOV19 for anything even remotely similar: I.e., droplets and aerosols.

Following the Scientific Method, we would not (and should not) implement something on a population level unless it has been demonstrated to be safe and effective, when tested against DB Placebo CG’s, individually.

That’s fine. I agree. I wouldn’t have a problem if Hart wrote an article on the fact that no formal studies have been performed demonstrating the effectiveness of masks against Covid. However, that’s not what he’s saying. He made the uneqivocal statement that the “study” shows masks are ineffective. That is not true. In fact, I would go so far as saying it’s a lie and borderline unethical reporting.

BTW, there may not be formal study done to support the wearing of masks, but there is a reason why surgeons wear masks in an operating room.

 

[CoffeeIsForClosers]

Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

A recent study reported by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

By Joe Hoft
Published April 19, 2021 at 10:00am

A recent Stanford study released by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful. ​

NIH published a medical hypothesis by Dr. Baruch Vainshelboim (Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States).
NOQ Report uncovered the study:


The NCBI study begins with the following abstract:

The study concludes (emphasis added):


Here is the table for physiological and psychological effects of wearing a facemask:

Here is the full study:
Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis by Baruch Vainshelboim by Jim Hoft on Scribd

What an absolute joke. American has been led down an insane path of wearing masks that don’t prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and cause more health risk than ever imagined.​

Copyright and license information of the research:

You really should know by now that this belongs on the round table.....why not just start it there?

 

[MKOTiger]

did you see where it says the virus is ONE THOUSAND TIMES SMALLER than the space between the threads of the mask?

Viruses travel through the air by sticking to vaporized respiratory droplets that are significantly larger than the virus. It’s the respiratory droplets that the masks are used to stop.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

 

[santee]

Some of those effects and consequences are laughable.

How many hours a day does a mask have to be worn for the effects to occur

How would you even conduct an actual effect test on the effectiveness or harm of masks

Do people who work in operating rooms or other full time jobs that require frequent wearing of masks die earlier and suffer these effects

I have a problem with any article such as saying this was a Stanford study. The guy was an exercise physiologist. Certainly agree people should not wear a mask while exercising heavily or completing in a sports event. Common sense says you would get somewhat hypoxic. But walking around inside a store or building that is stupid.

 

[santee]

TLDR- the holes in masks are 1000 times larger than the virus.

ONE THOUSAND TIMES BIGGER.

The virus does not float around by itself

 

[TigerGrowls]

You really should know by now that this belongs on the round table.....why not just start it there?

I think it was noteworthy enough to post on the mainboard. A lot of other non sports threads get started there daily. I try to keep it to a minimum honestly.

 

[clemsonu0219]

That’s fine. I agree. I wouldn’t have a problem if Hart wrote an article on the fact that no formal studies have been performed demonstrating the effectiveness of masks against Covid. However, that’s not what he’s saying. He made the uneqivocal statement that the “study” shows masks are ineffective. That is not true. In fact, I would go so far as saying it’s a lie and borderline unethical reporting.

BTW, there may not be formal study done to support the wearing of masks, but there is a reason why surgeons wear masks in an operating room.

Solid points, thanks for the cordiality.

Surgical Masks (and face coverings) certainly protect against some things including splash back from body fluids, odors, etc.

N95s (again properly fitted, properly worn, properly removed, properly replaced, etc) would certainly provide some particle blocking well over and above a Surgical Mask but, alas, were not all being told to wear (nor being properly trained) for N95s.

 

[MKOTiger]

Solid points, thanks for the cordiality.

Surgical Masks (and face coverings) certainly protect against some things including splash back from body fluids, odors, etc.

N95s (again properly fitted, properly worn, properly removed, properly replaced, etc) would certainly provide some particle blocking well over and above a Surgical Mask but, alas, were not all being told to wear (nor being properly trained) for N95s.

In Singapore, littering and graffiti are punishable by public caneing. Dealing drugs is punishable by death. Singapore is one of the cleanest countries in the world with lowest illegal drug use. Sure, we could help reduce Covid spread by requiring the use of N95 masks, require training and issue heavy fines (maybe public caneing) for failure to comply. However, thats not going to happen in the US.

Basically our constitution protects US citizens from overt governmental action by requiring such action to be the minimum necessary to accomplish a compelling governmental interest. Requiring masks to be worn in public governmental enclosed areas will likely meet that standard, caneing as a penal for noncompliance will probably not. However, every little bit helps, and I don’t mind being inconvenienced by wearing a mask for 15min when I visit my local Home Depot if it helps in any way to reduce the spread of Covid.

 

[TuesdayJ]

The virus does not float around by itself

how big are the aerosols?

 

[TuesdayJ]

Viruses travel through the air by sticking to vaporized respiratory droplets that are significantly larger than the virus. It’s the respiratory droplets that the masks are used to stop.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

are droplets the only way the virus is transmitted? nope.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

That’s fine. I agree. I wouldn’t have a problem if Hart wrote an article on the fact that no formal studies have been performed demonstrating the effectiveness of masks against Covid. However, that’s not what he’s saying. He made the uneqivocal statement that the “study” shows masks are ineffective. That is not true. In fact, I would go so far as saying it’s a lie and borderline unethical reporting.

BTW, there may not be formal study done to support the wearing of masks, but there is a reason why surgeons wear masks in an operating room.

I would say masks do prevent some droplets from spreading, bacteria is why surgeons wear them (sterile environment).

By In large they look stupid, don’t work for a COVID viral proteins, and were mandated by stupid lawyers who know nothing about medicine and listened to Burch/Fraudci.

He’s still goin too... doubling down. He literally says we have to wear masks until everyone is vaccinated. Since when do you threaten the public as a public “health” expert.

For those that have removed the mask, congratulations... if God wanted us wearing masks we would be born with them. Live love and be merry.

And I think we’d be pretty hard to find good journalism unless they are independent on Substack.

 

[MKOTiger]

I would say masks do prevent some droplets from spreading, bacteria is why surgeons wear them (sterile environment).

By In large they look stupid, don’t work for a COVID viral proteins, and were mandated by stupid lawyers who know nothing about medicine and listened to Burch/Fraudci.

He’s still goin too... doubling down. He literally says we have to wear masks until everyone is vaccinated. Since when do you threaten the public as a public “health” expert.

For those that have removed the mask, congratulations... if God wanted us wearing masks we would be born with them. Live love and be merry.

And I think we’d be pretty hard to find good journalism unless they are independent on Substack.

And if god wanted us to fly, he’d have given us wings.

 

[MKOTiger]

are droplets the only way the virus is transmitted? nope.

Yet, every little bit counts. I’m not sure about you, but I’d probably prefer that a Covid infected individual sneeze in a mask than in my face, but that’s me.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

Yet, every little bit counts. I’m not sure about you, but I’d probably prefer that a Covid infected individual sneeze in a mask than in my face, but that’s me.

If would be great if people were just taught good hygiene in school, how to not sneeze in someone’s face would be great, how to shower before swimming, deodorant so ones obnoxious smell does not waft, shitting ones pants on the airplane, to name a few

 

[MKOTiger]

If would be great if people were just taught good hygiene in school, how to not sneeze in someone’s face would be great, how to shower before swimming, deodorant so ones obnoxious smell does not waft, shitting ones pants on the airplane, to name a few

OK .... but I‘m not sure what shitting your pants has to do with the transmission of Covid.

 

[TigerGrowls]

SECOND STUDY This Time From CDC WEBSITE Confirms Study on Face Masks Being Harmful - Cause Serious Side Effects | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

More support for health concerns with wearing masks has been uncovered. This report was published and presented at the CDC website in June 2020.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[hopefultiger13]

This is so ridiculous that it’s scary.

First, Joe Hart says the article unequivocally proves that masks don’t work. That could not be further from the truth. It’s just a theory that’s not supported by any real data, which is confirmed in the article itself. Hart further says it’s a study. in fact, there was no study done ... none. It’s just an opinion.

Second, it was published by a journal that was founded in order to publish outlandish theories that aren’t coauthored, peer reviewed or support by independent study or data. It’s a “think out of the box journal” that Hart communicates as main stream medical.

Third, the author is not a professor at Stanford and the article is not a Stanford study or publication, as Hart states. The author was a clinical exercise physiologist who worked at the hospital at Stanford. That doesn’t make it a Stanford supported document or supported by any medical research institution, which it is not.

this is an article worth reading but it in no way proves that face masks aren’t effective against Covid.

Who would have thought that thegatewaypundit would "misinterpret" a non peer reviewed non experimental article as conclusive proof? Why OP of course!!! And that's why....

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[TigerGrowls]

Who would have thought that thegatewaypundit would "misinterpret" a non peer reviewed non experimental article as conclusive proof? Why OP of course!!! And that's why....

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GWP just reported the story that was also published by multiple other sources Hortense! The study from Stanford is real and all you can do is attack GWP. Wow!

 

[MKOTiger]

GWP just reported the story that was also published by multiple other sources Hortense! The study from Stanford is real and all you can do is attack GWP. Wow!

You are like one of those religious fanatics that is going to believe what you want to believe no matter what and in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Fortunately, most of us are sane enough to recognize this for what it is, fake news and BS.

 

[TigerGrowls]

You are like one of those religious fanatics that is going to believe what you want to believe no matter what and in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Fortunately, most of us are sane enough to recognize this for what it is, fake news and BS.

You are like one of those self anointed dumb A holes that thinks he is smart when the reality is far from it.

 

[MKOTiger]

You are like one of those self anointed dumb A holes that thinks he is smart when the reality is far from it.

I would not consider myself overly intelligent, but I know crazy when I see it.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I would not consider myself overly intelligent, but I know crazy when I see it.

You dont know shit.

 

[MKOTiger]

You dont know shit.

I know that you are bat shit crazy.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I know that you are bat shit crazy.

Just showing your stupidity only. Talk about issues instead of throwing ignorant insults.

 

[MKOTiger]

Kettle Black

 

[hopefultiger13]

GWP just reported the story that was also published by multiple other sources Hortense! The study from Stanford is real and all you can do is attack GWP. Wow!

Is your reading comprehension even there? I attacked you and your source for lacking credibility. I didn't attack the GOP at all... Didn't even mention them. Then I posted a link from an independent group that fact checks news sites (not perfect as they rated themselves with a slight left bias).

 

[tboonpickens]

 

[AugTig]

Is your reading comprehension even there? I attacked you and your source for lacking credibility. I didn't attack the GOP at all... Didn't even mention them. Then I posted a link from an independent group that fact checks news sites (not perfect as they rated themselves with a slight left bias).

Slight left bias??? Whatever fits your narrative.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Is your reading comprehension even there? I attacked you and your source for lacking credibility. I didn't attack the GOP at all... Didn't even mention them. Then I posted a link from an independent group that fact checks news sites (not perfect as they rated themselves with a slight left bias).

TigerGrowls said:
GWP just reported the story that was also published by multiple other sources Hortense! The study from Stanford is real and all you can do is attack GWP. Wow!

Might better check your bifocals or take less mind altering substances when posting going forward.....LOL!!