The MEMO...

[clemben]

If it was really nothing, then WHY were the democrats so AGAINST its release??
Check with MSNBC & get back to me...

Umm...not wanting those already predisposed to believing conspiracy theories to use this as some evidence to allow the President to gain public leverage to fire Rosenstein.

Again, not rocket science. Do anything to chip away at Mueller and fire Rosenstein so you can try and limit the scope of the investigation (Trumps alleged, potential money laundering through Russian mafia/oligarchs tied to Putin for real estate properties) or ultimately fire Mueller. Use Nunes who already was carrying water for you...

In reality the FISA court with the 4 judges who saw the entirety of the 50 pages of evidence that linked to the Pappy ongoing investigation and had the dossier as a data point, renewed the application for wiretapping multiple times. And if the FISA court feels like any evidence was misrepresented--GUESS WHAT--there is something called the FISC that can look at that 50 pages of evidence and rule against the FBI.

We should all trust that review over Nunes.

 

[Steven15]

is this like your version of "you mad bro?"

i'm not upset. i'm just making fun of your tired schtick.

Poorly executed I will say. You'll get me next time though, I believe in you.

 

[iceheart08]

the hyperbole coming from house Rs for the last two weeks is laughable given the actual contents of the letter (which is a partisan document drafted by partisan staffers). 50 pages of evidence used to get a FISA warrant, and house Rs just KNOW that the dossier is the ONLY reason the judge granted it repeatedly. yikes guys. yikes.

 

[gcsoccer16]

For the record, Mueller is a registered republican

so are jeff flake, bob corker, list goes on....doesn't mean anything.

career politicians alike are going down the drain.

what's funny is if this was flipped around and it was trump this would be the collusion they were looking for. sheep gonna sheep

 

[gcsoccer16]

the hyperbole coming from house Rs for the last two weeks is laughable given the actual contents of the letter (which is a partisan document drafted by partisan staffers). 50 pages of evidence used to get a FISA warrant, and house Rs just KNOW that the dossier is the ONLY reason the judge granted it repeatedly. yikes guys. yikes.

i feel sorry for you. i really do. you'll wake up before long.

 

[clemben]

Soooo Nunes of the Nunes memo didn't even read the FISA application.

What a bunch of bologna. Anyone supporting #ReleasetheMemo should be livid at Nunes and Trump and any Republican carrying water for this farce and attack on the FBI and DOJ.

Disgusting if you love liberty and are a true patriot.

 

[gcsoccer16]

im glad nancy pelosi and chuck schumer convinced the left that the tax cuts were going to raise middle class taxes. these two continue to be wrong and lie to their base repeatedly. when are dems going to wake up and realize they're getting hosed?

 

[gcsoccer16]

Soooo Nunes of the Nunes memo didn't even read the FISA application.

What a bunch of bologna. Anyone supporting #ReleasetheMemo should be livid at Nunes and Trump and any Republican carrying water for this farce and attack on the FBI and DOJ.

Disgusting if you love liberty and are a true patriot.

Taxes cut, isis squashed, my 401k at all time high and my president is keeping his promises. thats the liberty and patriotism i love.

 

[gcsoccer16]

some of you guys hate trump so much and dislike him personally you can't get your head out of your own ass

 

[clemben]

Taxes cut, isis squashed, my 401k at all time high and my president is keeping his promises. thats the liberty and patriotism i love.

What does that have to do with the Memo?

Seriously...

I'm glad you love your money and equate that with liberty--great, more power to you...nothing to do with the memo though.

Nothing to do with protecting the liberty of all americans by honoring and sustaining the rule of law.

 

[clemben]

some of you guys hate trump so much and dislike him personally you can't get your head out of your own ass

Notice how you don't actually defend the actions of today with any substance or facts but resort to personal attacks.

This does remind me a certain political figure trying to undermine the rule of law...just can't put my finger on it right now...

 

[anon_yqoaxol227dby]

so are jeff flake, bob corker, list goes on....doesn't mean anything.

career politicians alike are going down the drain.

what's funny is if this was flipped around and it was trump this would be the collusion they were looking for. sheep gonna sheep

If this were flipped around and Obama were attaching the FBI the GOP would lynch him

 

[gcsoccer16]

this is the denial phase guys. you'll get through it.

 

[gcsoccer16]

in all seriousness, i assume you guys lean left politically. when are schumer and pelosi going to be gone? how much longer are people going to buy the lies? They are pure gold for the right.

 

[gcsoccer16]

If this were flipped around and Obama were attaching the FBI the GOP would lynch him

the right attacked him constantly. but they never took it this far with trump with the fake russia stuff. how many more years are we going to go on with the russia/trump stuff? will it take another tax cut?

 

[TigerGrowls]

Notice how you don't actually defend the actions of today with any substance or facts but resort to personal attacks.

This does remind me a certain political figure trying to undermine the rule of law...just can't put my finger on it right now...

Facts
- Trump dossier is opposition party research mostly(over 90%)paid for by DNC and Clinton foundation.
- Trump dossier was propped up as a factual document to fraudulently obtain FISA approval to spy on Trump campaign repeatedly.
- Multiple executive level FBI personnel including McCabe and Ohr(wife works for fusion gps) have serious conflicts of interest and were shepherding this process through FISA court.
- Fraudulent submission to FISA court is against the law.
- Circular reporting was used to fraudulently make the dossier seem legit.
- FBI personnel including Comey and Rosenstein on multiple occasions submitted and received approval for FISA extension even after Trump was sworn in and it was plainly known that dossier was phony.

This is many times bigger than watergate ever was. In my opinion, Mueller probe is a sham that was built on house of card lies with phony Trump dossier at the base. Its rotten to the core. Dems and media performed political hit job on Sessions to get him to recuse so they would have an unimpeded run at Trump. The plan was working until the house intelligence committee stumbled upon all the illegalities underpinning this.

This is all my opinion below.
- Adam Schiff is a lying weasel with no integrity.
- When inspector general report on this comes out head will roll. Rosenstein who appointed this special counsel will be one of them.
- Mueller special counsel should be disbanded by FBI/DOJ voluntarily. Trump should not do it.
- People will be arrested before all this is over, but it will not be who the libs and mainstream media are hoping for.

In summary, special counsel is a joke. THERE IS NO TRUMP COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA!!!! If there was, it would have come out a long time ago. They are now hoping to charge Trump with obstruction of obstructing an investigation of him on a crime that he did not commit!! LOL!! Smart people do not do stupid things and Trump is smart! This is all a political hit job. Dems and anti Trump forces want to keep the issue open into election season to win votes....its that simple.

PRESIDENT TRUMP LOVES AMERICA AND IS DOING A GREAT JOB!! The nation is doing incredibly well now thanks to President Trump and his team!! Like it or not, Donald Trump is doing what he campaigned to to do. He is keeping his word. God bless America!!

 

[clemben]

Facts
- Trump dossier is opposition party research mostly(over 90%)paid for by DNC and Clinton foundation. (sure but doesn't change information within it, disproves nothing, doesn't change anything from a legal standpoint)
- Trump dossier was propped up as a factual document to fraudulently obtain FISA approval to spy on Trump campaign repeatedly. (If this were true then FISC could review it and Page could be exonerated. You or I don't know if this is true based on the memo. You have 60 other pages of info THAT NUNES DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO READ HIMSELF. Do you have any evidence that the dossier is factually incorrect--it has been corroborated already many times however...)
- Multiple executive level FBI personnel including McCabe and Ohr(wife works for fusion gps) have serious conflicts of interest and were shepherding this process through FISA court. (Weak sauce. Judges are judges and there was already an ongoing investigation. Look Carter Page was dirty. Russians spies w/SVR named him. The two spies got caught on a wiretap-called Page an idiot but enthusiastic to meet w/them, give them info & documents related to energy. Then Page is on Trump's foreign policy team, goes to Russia, denouncing Russian sanctions. Person of Interest. Boom goes the dynamite for FISA surveillance. Come on--punch harder than that)
- Fraudulent submission to FISA court is against the law. (See above. If it was fraudulent then there is a FISC process in place)
- Circular reporting was used to fraudulently make the dossier seem legit. (The author of the Yahoo news story has said there were multiple sources for his reporting, not just Steele and from the memo doesn't even know what part of his story they are referencing. But regardless, the dossier isn't the sole source for the FISA court--there is an ongoing investigation this is linked to that we know about bc Nunes staff put it in THE MEMO. What idiots...)
- FBI personnel including Comey and Rosenstein on multiple occasions submitted and received approval for FISA extension even after Trump was sworn in and it was plainly known that dossier was phony. (Yes. This means they had to keep showing evidence that they were getting results--this hurts your argument. Why are you hurting your argument, it is like you are on Nunes staff putting in the memo that the dossier isn't the one piece of evidence being used but there is already an ongoing investigation. Lovely.)

This is many times bigger than watergate ever was. (oh please...) In my opinion, Mueller probe is a sham that was built on house of card lies with phony Trump dossier at the base. (Umm...you can't really believe this. Explain Flynn? Gates? Manafort? Pappadapo-oh no...Please do so...Explain Trump Tower and how Don Jr. lied to the face of your boy Hannity? And then lied again--what were they there for again?? Explain how Carter Page wasn't meeting with Russians?? Who has their head in the sand?) Its rotten to the core. Dems and media performed political hit job on Sessions to get him to recuse so they would have an unimpeded run at Trump. (Mueller is a career intelligence man and a registered Republican. Sessions shouldn't have met with the Russian ambassador and forgotten about it. He shouldn't have been at the Pappy meeting that was so much about nothing that he committed perjury) The plan was working until the house intelligence committee stumbled upon all the illegalities underpinning this. (You really think Nunes--who already had to recuse himself bc he found lying for the WH has any credibility? Now who is being naive...)

This is all my opinion below.
- Adam Schiff is a lying weasel with no integrity. (evidence for opinion other than he is a dem and you are partisan?)
- When inspector general report on this comes out head will roll. (why the memo then?)
Rosenstein who appointed this special counsel will be one of them.
- Mueller special counsel should be disbanded by FBI/DOJ voluntarily. Trump should not do it. (why--there is no reason or evidence for this. You have given none--zero. The memo had nothing to do with Mueller...goodness...it already has borne fruit, nailing Pappy, Flynn, Gates and potentially Manafort)
- People will be arrested before all this is over, but it will not be who the libs and mainstream media are hoping for. (sure buddy...)

In summary, special counsel is a joke. THERE IS NO TRUMP COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA!!!! (what do you mean by collusion--there was plenty of cooperation, even you can't deny that, see Don Jr. emails) If there was, it would have come out a long time ago. They are now hoping to charge Trump with obstruction of obstructing an investigation of him on a crime that he did not commit!! LOL!! Smart people do not do stupid things and Trump is smart! (he is the smartest with the biggest brain but doesn't have the attention span to actually read documents. Buddy--you do not know a thing about Donald Trump...) This is all a political hit job. Dems and anti Trump forces want to keep the issue open into election season to win votes....its that simple.

PRESIDENT TRUMP LOVES AMERICA AND IS DOING A GREAT JOB!! The nation is doing incredibly well now thanks to President Trump and his team!! Like it or not, Donald Trump is doing what he campaigned to to do. He is keeping his word. God bless America!!

God bless the rule of law.

 

[CUT93]

the hyperbole coming from house Rs for the last two weeks is laughable given the actual contents of the letter (which is a partisan document drafted by partisan staffers). 50 pages of evidence used to get a FISA warrant, and house Rs just KNOW that the dossier is the ONLY reason the judge granted it repeatedly. yikes guys. yikes.

I am not responding to most of the kooks, but you are generally level headed, logical and reasonable. But, I think you are misinformed on this one.
They had recently been turned down for a FISA warrant. Mcabe said specifically that there would not have even been another submission for the FISA warrant if it were not for the dossier. Almost all of the other information had been submitted before and they were turned down. So yeah, the dossier IS the ONLY reason the judge granted it. Again, Mcabe testified to congress that they would not have even submitted another request to the FISA court (after being turned down just months before) had they not had the dossier. On top of that, they failed repeatedly to disclose the source of the dossier and the fact it had not been vetted/corroborated.

 

[anon_yqoaxol227dby]

the right attacked him constantly. but they never took it this far with trump with the fake russia stuff. how many more years are we going to go on with the russia/trump stuff? will it take another tax cut?

If this were flipped around and he said he grabbed women by the p*ssy the GOP would drag him about "values" and he wouldn't be president

 

[orangelvis]

The Memo is just the tip of the spear. There is more coming. You lib apologists are forgetting that there are text messages, timelines, testimony, that back up what the memo is stating.
Do you guys not find it the bit unusual that McCabe resigns this past Monday; the day after Wray sees the memo?
What will eventually come out is State Dept involvement in all of this; which brings Hillary back into from the gov't side and not just the campaign side. Go back and look at the timeline date gaps in Hillary's missing emails. Then match that up with what has happened with these FISA applications.
All Democrats should hate Hillary Clinton. We all know she stole the nomination from Bernie Sanders.
Another point that will come to light down the road. Remember when the DNC first claimed their server had been hacked by the Russians? If so, then you'll also remember that the DNC would not let the FBI forensic team look at the server. Instead, they hired a "company" to come in and check it out. This "company" is the only verification the DNC has that their servers were hacked by Russians. There is a REASON, the DNC didn't want the FBI looking at that server, and we will all find out soon.
Does anyone still believe there was collusion between Trump campaign and the Russians? Really? I see people itt thread who still think that dossier has legit information in it. Really? Also, to the people making a big deal about the fact Nunes hasn't read the dossier, there is a reason. By law, only one person from each side of the isle on the committee can read it. Nunes thought it best to let Trey Gowdy be the one to read it; because of his background. Mueller has loooong ago stopped looking for collusion. All he's doing now is trying to find some angle to look for Obstruction, which is laughable. In the end, what happens is they're reduced to setting up a perjury trap for some poor soul. Remember Scooter Libbey?

 

[MBRO]

Soooo Nunes of the Nunes memo didn't even read the FISA application.

Correct, but Trey Gowdy did.

 

[Willence]

God bless the rule of law.

I love the left. So entertaining. This comment takes the cake. You love it when it suits you and you completely disregard it when it doesn't. I now need no further confirmation about how blind you are. God bless you brother.

 

[clemben]

I am not responding to most of the kooks, but you are generally level headed, logical and reasonable. But, I think you are misinformed on this one.
They had recently been turned down for a FISA warrant. Mcabe said specifically that there would not have even been another submission for the FISA warrant if it were not for the dossier. Almost all of the other information had been submitted before and they were turned down. So yeah, the dossier IS the ONLY reason the judge granted it. Again, Mcabe testified to congress that they would not have even submitted another request to the FISA court (after being turned down just months before) had they not had the dossier. On top of that, they failed repeatedly to disclose the source of the dossier and the fact it had not been vetted/corroborated.

Where in the world are you getting this incorrect information? Let me be clear THE MEMO itself says the dossier isn't the only source for the FISA application. Yes, your very own memo blew up Hannity World's own talking points. So NO the dossier IS NOT THE ONLY REASON THE JUDGE GRANTED IT.

And now we learn that the memo blatantly lied about FISA not knowing that the dossier was politically motivated.

Moral of the story--don't hitch your wagon to Nunes and his staffers writing a bogus memo trying to tarnish the FBI and DOJ in the service of Trump.

And no--I'm not a flaming liberal, I am a moderate who remembers a Republican part that once respected the rule of law and the work of intelligence services that keep america safe. A party that never would have stood for a flimsy document full of falsehoods being used to attack the DOJ and the FBI.

 

[clemben]

The Memo is just the tip of the spear. There is more coming. You lib apologists are forgetting that there are text messages, timelines, testimony, that back up what the memo is stating.
Do you guys not find it the bit unusual that McCabe resigns this past Monday; the day after Wray sees the memo?
What will eventually come out is State Dept involvement in all of this; which brings Hillary back into from the gov't side and not just the campaign side. Go back and look at the timeline date gaps in Hillary's missing emails. Then match that up with what has happened with these FISA applications.
All Democrats should hate Hillary Clinton. We all know she stole the nomination from Bernie Sanders.
Another point that will come to light down the road. Remember when the DNC first claimed their server had been hacked by the Russians? If so, then you'll also remember that the DNC would not let the FBI forensic team look at the server. Instead, they hired a "company" to come in and check it out. This "company" is the only verification the DNC has that their servers were hacked by Russians. There is a REASON, the DNC didn't want the FBI looking at that server, and we will all find out soon.
Does anyone still believe there was collusion between Trump campaign and the Russians? Really? I see people itt thread who still think that dossier has legit information in it. Really? Also, to the people making a big deal about the fact Nunes hasn't read the dossier, there is a reason. By law, only one person from each side of the isle on the committee can read it. Nunes thought it best to let Trey Gowdy be the one to read it; because of his background. Mueller has loooong ago stopped looking for collusion. All he's doing now is trying to find some angle to look for Obstruction, which is laughable. In the end, what happens is they're reduced to setting up a perjury trap for some poor soul. Remember Scooter Libbey?

So tell me--what exactly in the dossier has been disproven? I'll wait...

If you go up a few posts I show you line by line how there is plenty of Russian cooperation with the Trump campaign. Page, Manafort, Pappy, Don Jr, Gates, Flynn--so far...

If Gowdy is the only one who has read it--then why are all these Republicans acting like they know everything, calling for treason, etc. Calling out the FBI and DOJ when you haven't seen any evidence yourself and you are operating on hearsay?? Why was Nunes saying anything at all if he hasn't read the 60 pages in the first place? Only Gowdy should speak and he has been noticeably absent. Do we know that Gowdy wrote the memo?? Conflicting statements on this. And now we learn that part of the memo is a blatant lie--that FISA did know that the dossier was politically motivated.

Not a good look for whoever drafted the thing (which smells like the Nunes staff...at least I hope so for Gowdy's sake).

 

[clemben]

I love the left. So entertaining. This comment takes the cake. You love it when it suits you and you completely disregard it when it doesn't. I now need no further confirmation about how blind you are. God bless you brother.

I'm actually a moderate in real life but Trump may have pushed me into the left--just because I don't recognize the right anymore. In my lifetime I never once remember a Republican attacking the FBI and DOJ with such partisan flim flam.

I'm amazed that republicans hitched their wagon to Nunes, who has zero credibility. House Republicans have always been obnoxious and extremely conservative--but they never led the party. I'm more disappointed than anything...

 

[gcsoccer16]

If this were flipped around and he said he grabbed women by the p*ssy the GOP would drag him about "values" and he wouldn't be president

locker room talk man. this is what's got you worked up?

 

[orangelvis]

So tell me--what exactly in the dossier has been disproven? I'll wait...

If you go up a few posts I show you line by line how there is plenty of Russian cooperation with the Trump campaign. Page, Manafort, Pappy, Don Jr, Gates, Flynn--so far...

If Gowdy is the only one who has read it--then why are all these Republicans acting like they know everything, calling for treason, etc. Calling out the FBI and DOJ when you haven't seen any evidence yourself and you are operating on hearsay?? Why was Nunes saying anything at all if he hasn't read the 60 pages in the first place? Only Gowdy should speak and he has been noticeably absent. Do we know that Gowdy wrote the memo?? Conflicting statements on this. And now we learn that part of the memo is a blatant lie--that FISA did know that the dossier was politically motivated.

Not a good look for whoever drafted the thing (which smells like the Nunes staff...at least I hope so for Gowdy's sake).

No, you need to show me where the proof is that what you're claiming to e true. Do you not think if what you're saying is true, there wouldn't be indictments, or at the least, a Grand Jury convened? All you're doing is spouting off all the BS that you hear from liberal, maniacal media sources. Some of these media idiots are complicit in this as well. Printing bs that was leaked to them from non other than Mike Steele, who has shown himself to be a Trump Hater, by the sworn testimony cited in the Memo.
Also, lets not forget that, early on, Comey went to the White House to brief Trump on the Dossier. In the briefing, Comey by his own testomony, described the Dossier as salacious and uncorroborated. However the timeline shows that Comey and others, signed off on the Dossier at least a month earlier, at is FISA court.

 

[orangelvis]

Where in the world are you getting this incorrect information? Let me be clear THE MEMO itself says the dossier isn't the only source for the FISA application. Yes, your very own memo blew up Hannity World's own talking points. So NO the dossier IS NOT THE ONLY REASON THE JUDGE GRANTED IT.

And now we learn that the memo blatantly lied about FISA not knowing that the dossier was politically motivated.

Moral of the story--don't hitch your wagon to Nunes and his staffers writing a bogus memo trying to tarnish the FBI and DOJ in the service of Trump.

And no--I'm not a flaming liberal, I am a moderate who remembers a Republican part that once respected the rule of law and the work of intelligence services that keep america safe. A party that never would have stood for a flimsy document full of falsehoods being used to attack the DOJ and the FBI.

...And McCabe testified, Under Oath, that without the Dossier, there would NOT have been a warrant. They had tried the FISA court earlier and been denied, until they came back with the Dossier and the fake news story from Issacoff, who had been given the same information from no other than Michael Steele, the author of the Dossier.

 

[orangelvis]

I'm actually a moderate in real life but Trump may have pushed me into the left--just because I don't recognize the right anymore. In my lifetime I never once remember a Republican attacking the FBI and DOJ with such partisan flim flam.

I'm amazed that republicans hitched their wagon to Nunes, who has zero credibility. House Republicans have always been obnoxious and extremely conservative--but they never led the party. I'm more disappointed than anything...

The House rebubs have repeatedly said they are not attacking the FBI, only the few at the top who have been shown to be complicit in this. It;s funny how all of the players in the FBI have already been demoted, quit, or whatever prior to the release of memo, but the left media doen't even recognize it as being "telling".

 

[clemsonpaw00]

Lol how are you trumpers spinning this one

 

[CUT93]

Where in the world are you getting this incorrect information? Let me be clear THE MEMO itself says the dossier isn't the only source for the FISA application. Yes, your very own memo blew up Hannity World's own talking points. So NO the dossier IS NOT THE ONLY REASON THE JUDGE GRANTED IT.

And now we learn that the memo blatantly lied about FISA not knowing that the dossier was politically motivated.

Moral of the story--don't hitch your wagon to Nunes and his staffers writing a bogus memo trying to tarnish the FBI and DOJ in the service of Trump.

And no--I'm not a flaming liberal, I am a moderate who remembers a Republican part that once respected the rule of law and the work of intelligence services that keep america safe. A party that never would have stood for a flimsy document full of falsehoods being used to attack the DOJ and the FBI.

McCabe told congress that there would have never been another FISA application without the dossier. They had already submitted one and had been turned down. I never said that the dossier was the only thing submitted to the FISA court. It was likely just added on to what they had submitted prior to that. Still, McCabe said there would have been no FISA warrant because they would not have submitted another application without the dossier. What is so hard for you to understand about that. I am not arguing an opinion, I am stating a fact. There would have been no FISA warrant without the dossier. That is a fact stated by those who submitted the warrant application. If you want to assert McCabe was lying to congress, then you can make that argument.

Furthermore, I don't know anyone who is trying to tarnish the FBI and DOJ as a whole. It appears to be only (or at least primarily) the very top leadership that was/is the problem.

 

[orangelvis]

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Lol how are you trumpers spinning this one

Well, if that's true, then the FISA court has turned us into a Banana Republic. We will become a police state in no time. Where are all the civil libertarians!!!! This is exactly what everyone was against when the FISA law was being voted on. If spying on political opponents in allowed, we will be Russia within a decade, and if Hillary had won the the election, we'd be one now.
I'm certainly not conceding that this tweet is true; especially after reading the article. Who is the un-named source stating this? Let them come out into the light of day and make this statememnt. It could be Michael Steele making this claim for all we know. I say, declassify all of it. There certainly has been no harm to National Security, contrary to what the dems were screaming before the memo release, by releasiong the memo.
Let me also say that the FISA court legislation was passed into law to prevent terrorist activity. Just the act of using a FISA court to obtain these types of spying warrants, is a problem in and of itself.

 

[orangelvis]

Here are 16 things the media do not want you to know about the Nunes memo:

This is exerpts from an article written by John Nolte. He has previously pointed the irony of the msm, who for weeks has been decrying the release of the memo. Yes, the same media who screams for gov't transparency otherwise, and has for decades.

1. The so-called Russian Dossier, the creation of Fusion GPS and former British spy Christopher Steele, is a political document — namely, opposition research, created for the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.
2. Using what it knew was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign, in October of 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained a FISA warrant from the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to install a wiretap to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent — the Trump campaign, specifically Carter Page. This spying would last for a year.
3. It should be noted that the FISA court was set up to stop foreign terrorists. The fact that the FBI and DOJ would use this court to not only wiretap an American but to wiretap a presidential campaign belies belief. Why Obama’s FBI and DOJ used this court as opposed to a normal court is obvious. As you will see below, a normal court probably would have denied the wiretap.
4. Worse still, in the summer of 2016, Obama’s DOJ had already opened a counter-intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. The fact that nothing from that months-old partisan investigation was used to obtain the Page wiretap is revealing.
5. According to the Nunes memo, an “essential” part of the FISA wiretap application was the Steele dossier, which again is a partisan political document created for the Clinton campaign.
6. So essential was this partisan dossier, Andrew McCabe, the disgraced former-Deputy Director of the FBI, admitted in December that “no surveillance warrant would have been sought” without the dossier.
7. Not only did the FBI knowingly use a document from a partisan campaign to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on the competing campaign, the FBI knew the dossier was mostly “salacious and unverified.” We know this because disgraced former-FBI Director James Comey told us so in June of 2017.
8. According to the Nunes memo, “Steele told [former FBI official Bruce] Ohr, he ‘was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.'”
9. Ohr, who was part of the FBI’s anti-Trump Russian investigation, was not only friendly with Steele, Ohr’s own wife worked with Steele at Fusion GPS doing opposition research (the dossier) against Trump for the Clinton campaign.
10. Despite a) knowing the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign b) knowing the dossier was “salacious and unverified” c) knowing Steele was desperate to destroy Trump d) the breathtaking conflict of interest in having an investigator’s own wife working on the dossier, the FBI still went to the FISA court to obtain permission to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent.
11. In order to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, all of the conflicts of interest above were withheld from the FISA court — an indefensible (and possibly illegal) lie of omission.
12. Even worse, in order to legitimize a warrant request based on a piece of partisan opposition research they knew was “salacious and unverified,” the FBI and DOJ used a media report to bolster the findings in the phony dossier. The FBI and DOJ told the court that the media report was independent verification of the dossier. But this was not true, and, according to the Nunes memo, the FBI and DOJ knew this was not true. The truth is that the phony dossier was the source of this media report.
13. Also hidden from the FISA court was the fact that the FBI obtained Steele as a source but had to fire him in October of 2016 when, in a bid to use his phony dossier to derail the Trump campaign, he leaked his information to the far-left Mother Jones.
14. Although the FBI and DOJ were willing participants in pushing a “salacious and unverified” narrative against a presidential candidate (primarily through media leaks), this was all hidden from congressional investigators. To begin with, for months, while under oath, Comey said he did not know where the dossier came from — meaning from the Clinton campaign. The Wall Street Journal explains:

We also know the FBI wasn’t straight with Congress, as it hid most of these facts from investigators in a briefing on the dossier in January 2017. The FBI did not tell Congress about Mr. Steele’s connection to the Clinton campaign, and the House had to issue subpoenas for Fusion bank records to discover the truth. Nor did the FBI tell investigators that it continued receiving information from Mr. Steele and Fusion even after it had terminated him. The memo says the bureau’s intermediary was Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, whose wife, incredibly, worked for Fusion.

1. All of this dishonesty occurred under Comey, the man our media now hold up as a living saint, a man so desperate to destroy Trump, he not only oversaw those committing the above abuses, he leaked classified information to the news media in order to see a Special Prosecutor appointed against Trump, which his pal, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, immediately did.

And finally…

16. Much of the “salacious and unverified” material in the dossier came from the Russians. In other words, those disgusting dossier lies about Trump’s personal behavior came from Russian operatives. So there is no question that it was the Clinton campaign, Democrats, Steele, the FBI, and DOJ who colluded with the Russians to rig a presidential election.

Yes, there was collusion with the Russians, and those in our government currently investigating Trump in the hopes of overturning a presidential election are the colluders.

Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC.

 

[orangelvis]

Here is a news story of Comey's testimony to Congress. There are quotes in the story, from Comey's testimony. He is telling congress the reason he briefed Trump about the dossier. In this testimony, he states the dossier is salacious and unsubstantiated. What you have to remember, is Comey and the others had already used the dossier to obtain the spy warrant. Also, Comey himself leaked info to the press in an attempt to get a Special Prosecuter appointed. His buddy, immediately did so.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-...acious-and-unverified-we-knew-media-was-about

 

[clemben]

Here is a news story of Comey's testimony to Congress. There are quotes in the story, from Comey's testimony. He is telling congress the reason he briefed Trump about the dossier. In this testimony, he states the dossier is salacious and unsubstantiated. What you have to remember, is Comey and the others had already used the dossier to obtain the spy warrant. Also, Comey himself leaked info to the press in an attempt to get a Special Prosecuter appointed. His buddy, immediately did so.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-...acious-and-unverified-we-knew-media-was-about

How many times does this need to be repeated. The dossier was not the only data point and was part of the 50 pages of evidence used for to connect Carter Page to the Pappy investigation. And now we know that FISA knew it was paid for (even though ALL INFORMANTS TESTIMONY IS BIASED). People seriously have no idea about the basics of getting any warrant. Just because people have bias doesn't rule out the evidence.

The dossier is 35 pages long--it has two parts that could be considered salacious (really just a couple of paragraphs--the rest is pretty boring but important). One that claims Trump went to Russia and had prostitutes piss on the bed Obama slept in (hasn't been disproven) and another line about trump going to Russia for real estate deals, couldn't get the business done and instead settled for prostitutes (also not disproven and with the 130,000 dollar pay off to Stormy is very likely and not at all salacious but I can see Comey telling the president it was at the time...).

And the dossier needs to be proven true? It already has been numerous times. And nothing has been outright discredited (yeah--for such a 'fake' document you couldn't come up with one thing). http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

Notice one of those things--Carter Page visiting with oil giant Rosneft?

But it is an intelligence document of sensitive materials. Do you think the Russians would just be like--yes, we will verify everything. You do realize the Russian sanctions were lifted despite the entire Congress voting for them, no? You act like the Russians aren't going to make sure no one talks about Trump cavorting with Russian prostitutes--the dossier even talks about this.

You obviously don't know what the word terrorist means or why the FISA court was set up...smh...And to be honest, I am fine with more oversight of FISA--liberals have been clamoring for it for years and years now--called unpatriotic traitors by Republicans because of it. Glad to see some folks want increased scrutiny, fine. But Carter Page was dirty. He was caught in an SVP wiretap where two Russian spies were actively cultivating him. FISA was absolutely right--guy is under surveillance, already has contact with Russian spies, is part of the Pappy investigation, and then pops up under Steele's dossier (and Steele had been a longtime source and top official in British intelligence--don't be thick bc the dossier says negative things about Trump). FISA doesn't mean someone is guilty, just that there is cause to surveil that person (in reality, it should be understood as trying to protect Trump from someone who could be used by the Russians).

Also cnsnews?? Really? You want to talk about not having bias and you post that partisan publication?

 

[orangelvis]

How many times does this need to be repeated. The dossier was not the only data point and was part of the 50 pages of evidence used for to connect Carter Page to the Pappy investigation. And now we know that FISA knew it was paid for (even though ALL INFORMANTS TESTIMONY IS BIASED). People seriously have no idea about the basics of getting any warrant. Just because people have bias doesn't rule out the evidence.

The dossier is 35 pages long--it has two parts that could be considered salacious (really just a couple of paragraphs--the rest is pretty boring but important). One that claims Trump went to Russia and had prostitutes piss on the bed Obama slept in (hasn't been disproven) and another line about trump going to Russia for real estate deals, couldn't get the business done and instead settled for prostitutes (also not disproven and with the 130,000 dollar pay off to Stormy is very likely and not at all salacious but I can see Comey telling the president it was at the time...).

And the dossier needs to be proven true? It already has been numerous times. And nothing has been outright discredited (yeah--for such a 'fake' document you couldn't come up with one thing). http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

Notice one of those things--Carter Page visiting with oil giant Rosneft?

But it is an intelligence document of sensitive materials. Do you think the Russians would just be like--yes, we will verify everything. You do realize the Russian sanctions were lifted despite the entire Congress voting for them, no? You act like the Russians aren't going to make sure no one talks about Trump cavorting with Russian prostitutes--the dossier even talks about this.

You obviously don't know what the word terrorist means or why the FISA court was set up...smh...And to be honest, I am fine with more oversight of FISA--liberals have been clamoring for it for years and years now--called unpatriotic traitors by Republicans because of it. Glad to see some folks want increased scrutiny, fine. But Carter Page was dirty. He was caught in an SVP wiretap where two Russian spies were actively cultivating him. FISA was absolutely right--guy is under surveillance, already has contact with Russian spies, is part of the Pappy investigation, and then pops up under Steele's dossier (and Steele had been a longtime source and top official in British intelligence--don't be thick bc the dossier says negative things about Trump). FISA doesn't mean someone is guilty, just that there is cause to surveil that person (in reality, it should be understood as trying to protect Trump from someone who could be used by the Russians).

Also cnsnews?? Really? You want to talk about not having bias and you post that partisan publication?

Hahaha. We'll just have to agree to disagree man. You obviously have a different idea of what constitutes a real story. You're using news stories with unnamed sources to prove a point, and I'm using stories with documented quotes from the players involved. I'm out.

 

[CUT93]

How many times does this need to be repeated. The dossier was not the only data point and was part of the 50 pages of evidence used for to connect Carter Page to the Pappy investigation. And now we know that FISA knew it was paid for (even though ALL INFORMANTS TESTIMONY IS BIASED). People seriously have no idea about the basics of getting any warrant. Just because people have bias doesn't rule out the evidence.

The dossier is 35 pages long--it has two parts that could be considered salacious (really just a couple of paragraphs--the rest is pretty boring but important). One that claims Trump went to Russia and had prostitutes piss on the bed Obama slept in (hasn't been disproven) and another line about trump going to Russia for real estate deals, couldn't get the business done and instead settled for prostitutes (also not disproven and with the 130,000 dollar pay off to Stormy is very likely and not at all salacious but I can see Comey telling the president it was at the time...).

And the dossier needs to be proven true? It already has been numerous times. And nothing has been outright discredited (yeah--for such a 'fake' document you couldn't come up with one thing). http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

Notice one of those things--Carter Page visiting with oil giant Rosneft?

But it is an intelligence document of sensitive materials. Do you think the Russians would just be like--yes, we will verify everything. You do realize the Russian sanctions were lifted despite the entire Congress voting for them, no? You act like the Russians aren't going to make sure no one talks about Trump cavorting with Russian prostitutes--the dossier even talks about this.

You obviously don't know what the word terrorist means or why the FISA court was set up...smh...And to be honest, I am fine with more oversight of FISA--liberals have been clamoring for it for years and years now--called unpatriotic traitors by Republicans because of it. Glad to see some folks want increased scrutiny, fine. But Carter Page was dirty. He was caught in an SVP wiretap where two Russian spies were actively cultivating him. FISA was absolutely right--guy is under surveillance, already has contact with Russian spies, is part of the Pappy investigation, and then pops up under Steele's dossier (and Steele had been a longtime source and top official in British intelligence--don't be thick bc the dossier says negative things about Trump). FISA doesn't mean someone is guilty, just that there is cause to surveil that person (in reality, it should be understood as trying to protect Trump from someone who could be used by the Russians).

Also cnsnews?? Really? You want to talk about not having bias and you post that partisan publication?

McCabe specifically told congress that there would not have been another FISA warrant request(after they had already been turned down) if it were not for the dossier. So you can make up whatever story you want to, spin it however you like. The FACT remains that there would not been another request made, much less a warrant granted except for the dossier. There is no way to get around that. No dossier = no warrant straight from the horses mouth. So can you please stop with all the garbage you are spouting about the insignificance of the dossier.

 

[MBRO]

McCabe specifically told congress that there would not have been another FISA warrant request(after they had already been turned down) if it were not for the dossier.

@CUT93, I’ve seen you mention this a few times ITT. Can you point me to the audio or transcription of this statement?

 

[orangelvis]

McCabe specifically told congress that there would not have been another FISA warrant request(after they had already been turned down) if it were not for the dossier. So you can make up whatever story you want to, spin it however you like. The FACT remains that there would not been another request made, much less a warrant granted except for the dossier. There is no way to get around that. No dossier = no warrant straight from the horses mouth. So can you please stop with all the garbage you are spouting about the insignificance of the dossier.

Exactly...he should be more concerned about this below, not to mention the FACT that his DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to see their servers after they CLAIMED to have been hacked by the RUSSIANS. No official gov't agency has ever verified that claim.
You can't make up the stupidity of this. Debbie W Shultz even protected this Pakistani dude until he could get out of the country!

Read it and weep...or laugh

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/intel-committee-dems/

 

[FLaw47]

Exactly...he should be more concerned about this below, not to mention the FACT that his DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to see their servers after they CLAIMED to have been hacked by the RUSSIANS. No official gov't agency has ever verified that claim.
You can't make up the stupidity of this. Debbie W Shultz even protected this Pakistani dude until he could get out of the country!

Read it and weep...or laugh

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/intel-committee-dems/

You're right, your source there was worth a laugh.