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There was another mass shooting today

Morgan freeman said it best if the news would stop glorifying the people and giving them days and days of coverage then they will stop trying to one up the last one and go back to offing themselves in their parents basements.

All removing guns does is stop people from protecting themselves as the bad people will always find a way to get a gun or something to cause destruction.
Morgan Freeman didn’t say that retard
 
When will these tragic events ever end?


They will never end. But they'd slow down if the media would stop reporting them. I would like to see a few high profile reporters / journalists refuse to report on the next mass shooting.
 

Mass shootings have been up! No one wants to talk about it b/c it doesn't fit the narrative!!!!​

These are the stats in the most restrictive gun controls city in America!!!

Don't bring this BULL here!!!



In Chicago, 163 people have been killed this year. That is 23 more than 2020.​


Data through Wednesday, April 14


The Chicago Tribune crime team tracks homicide victims in Chicago and includes all deaths rules a homicide by the medical examiner. This page will be updated weekly.


Homicides, so far this year​


201320142015201620172018201920202021
9182101169171131115140163

About the victims​


For the previous 365 days

The majority of the victims of homicide in Chicago are young, black men.

Race/ethnicity​



100200300400500100200300400500Black, not hispanic (576)Not known (112)Hispanic (70)White, not hispanic (41)Asian (2)


Chicago ends 2020 with 769 homicides as gun violence surges

By DON BABWINJanuary 1, 2021


FILE - In this May 31, 2020 file photo, several street bridges over the Chicago River remain closed in Chicago, after a night of unrest and protests over the death of George Floyd, a black man who was in police custody in Minneapolis. The year 2020 ended in Chicago with more homicides than in all but one year in more than two decades. As in other cities, Chicago police attribute much of the increase in gun violence to the global coronavirus pandemic and civil unrest that erupted after Floyd died after being forcibly detained by Minneapolis police.

CHICAGO (AP) — The number of homicides and shootings in Chicago spiked dramatically in 2020, ending with more bloodshed than in all but one year in more than two decades, statistics released by police on Friday revealed.


After three years of falling homicide totals, 2020 ended with 769 homicides — 274 more than the previous year and the most since the 784 homicides in 2016. The latest shooting victim figures told the same story, with the year ending with 4,033 shooting victims compared with 2,598 the year before.
And it never let up, as is illustrated by the fact that in December, there were 50 homicides — 19 more than occurred in December 2019.
 


Well if it's on the internet, it has to be true right? This is why people hold such moronic views. They believe anything the media tells them and are too stupid or lazy to find out for themselves. Also, a complete lack of common sense. If anyone thinks more gun laws/restrictions are going to stop someone who truly wants to harm others, you are just not very bright. We have laws against murdering people, how ado you think laws restricting gun purchases will help? It is not very difficult to get a gun illegally if you want one, and that will not change no matter how many more gun laws/restrictions are passed.
Also the articles linked give some insight to the purposely deceptive and false narrative being pushed, and unfortunately believed, by the media and certain political parties. The people/organizations pushing this narrative are either knowingly lying are not smart enough to do simple google searches. Either way, you are an idiot to believe anything they say without finding the truth on your own.

You see they don't want more gun laws, they want to remove guns from the equation. That is the ultimate goal. They don't care about your rights as a citizen, it is all about what they think is best for you. I want to remove any foreign substance or device that can impair ones ability to drive (drugs, alcohol, cellphones, eating, farding, etc.), is that OK? I want to remove the penis, testicles and hands of every male (take away their weapons) who might be a potential child molester, is that OK?
 
I know you’re not trying to hear this, but if it meant getting rid of mass killings I’d do it today.
My point, which you missed, is that it won’t stop what we’re seeing. We’ve had guns for hundreds of years but somehow within the last 30 years we’ve gotten to a point where they happen weekly. That’s never happened in recorded history. I’m willing to guess the media’s coverage and the involvement of politics (if you’re for guns you love mass killings, if you’re against murder you want gun control) have emboldened folks on all sides here to make this the absolute worst case scenario. If you could ask the actual victims getting mowed down I’m sure they are glad to be the face of either “they should have a weapon to protect themselves!” Or “THIS is why we should have fun control” as if their death was only good to be a pawn in the stupidest ****ing chess match our country is playing against itself.
Should be ashamed all the way
Proposed gun control measures make society more vulnerable to gun violence. The bad guys will get theirs as the good guys lose theirs.

Believe it or not, on a per capita basis, violent crimes to include gun violence and even mass shootings peaked in the US in 1974 and have been in a gradual declining trend. Total events have increased since 1974, but the per capita rate has decreased as the nation's population grows steadily.

What has changed is the saturation of our culture with mass news media and now social media. We hear and see and read about dadgum everything. That was not around decades ago.

The United States is #66 in the world in mass shootings on a per capita basis. Don't go to Norway where the rate is much higher and leads the world.
 
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We need a national red flag bill. Who knows if this one would have been prevented, but taking away firearms from people posting threatening stuff and exhibiting behavior that threatens others is a great first step.

It would also help to quit making these terrorists out to be villains. One mana villain is another mans hero.

It would also help to do a gun buyback. For the folks that have them and don’t care for them or even know how to use them, that would lower the risk of the waiting falling into the wrong hands.

There are steps that need to be taken before we consider amending the 2nd amendment.
 
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A stiffer punishment for murder would also be helpful. In Japan, the sentence is hanging and there's not 40 years of appeals.

Hanging a corpse isn't going to deter anyone. It's obvious some of these people don't care whether they live or die.
 
Offer a small tax credit to have people come forward and register the guns they currently own. All guns moving forward must be registered. If you have an unregistered gun and get caught, then it's a fine and it must be registered with a tiered ramp up punishment for repeat offenders and your carrier is notified (like SR-22 insurance for a DUI). If a crime is committed with a gun registered to you and you either a) didn't fill out transfer paperwork accordingly to show it was sold to someone else; or b) did not report it stolen then your homeowners insurance can be held liable. If someone in your home commits a crime with a gun registered to you then it is a question of fact to see if you were negligent allowing access to the weapon and you can be held liable. Think parents serving alcohol to underage kids and then the kids getting in an accident.

You want infrastructure? Beef up the communication between necessary agencies to make sure that people who should not have access to guns do not get guns or who have life circumstances that change whether or not they should have access to a weapon no longer have access to a weapon.
 
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Surely not going to be a popular opinion, and I'm honestly not trying to be cold or heartless, but I had rather be shot at than be attacked by a knife, machete, pipe bomb, or an automobile. I honestly believe if the media didn't give these tragedies so much attention, there would be exponentially fewer events. Its good for clicks and views and all that money to be made pulling at our heartstrings.
 
Being able to protect oneself is important and a sign of a free society. But, anyone blaming this on reporting the news is stupid. Don't touch my freedom and guns, but lets restrict media. Hypocrites. Mental health needs and better educated/smarter people is what the world needs.
I see what you're getting at here, and I agree it is a slippery slope, but the media today isn't really the media of 30 years ago. I'm all for getting facts. Give me the facts and let me digest them. I don't need editorials and opinion pieces and talking heads and so called experts who get paid to speak the way the corporation wants them to or what they know their audience wants to hear. I'm not just talking about CNN either.
 
why have these increased so much this year vs the last 4? Is it anything political to it?
The most people killed in mass shootings ever in any given year was in order 2017, 2019, 2016, and 2018. Maybe the only good thing about 2020 was that the number of deaths due to mass shootings was very low due to being shutdown and not as many people out in public I would assume.
 
@nmerritt11 why is this on the round table?? This is actually a positive thread from all points of view on the issue. No personal attacks either.....
 
The question should be, "What are we going to do about gun violence?" So far we have done nothing. Just saying its a mental health issue but doing nothing about people with mental health issues getting guns accomplishes nothing. Saying guns don't kill people, people do and doing nothing about the guns doesn't work. I believe it will take a large number of steps to affect the murder rate. One, we need to dramatically lower the number of rounds a weapon can hold. Two, we need to have civil liability laws for people who don't secure their guns in a safe, so that when a child gets access to a gun and kills someone, the gun owner is liable. Three, we need to enforce and seriously punish people who illegally carry guns. Four, we need strict background checks. While it doesn't necessarily involve mass shootings, doing nothing about Chicago, North Charleston and dozens of other cities is not acceptable.
 
Tragic indeed but I can’t help but wonder when gun control talk starts heating up, why do we always have these shootings start popping up.

Eric Paddock pretty much convinced me that he and his brother Stephen Paddock were anti-gun liberals. The Vegas massacre was all about taking out right wing supporters.

https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2017/10/eric-paddock-brother-of-terrorist.html

I don't know why this guy missed the statement Eric says "Stephen believed it takes a village" That's when they cut him off. Someone said something thru his ear pieces.
 
The Onion can be funny when they get their facts right.

Mass Shooting Death Rates by Country per 1 million population:
  • Norway 1.888
  • Serbia 0.381
  • France 0.347
  • Macedonia 0.337
  • Albania 0.206
  • Slovakia 0.185
  • Switzerland 0.142
  • Finland 0.132
  • Belgium 0.128
  • The Czech Republic 0.123
  • The United States of America 0.089
  • Austria 0.068
  • The Netherlands 0.051
  • Canada 0.032
  • England 0.027
  • Germany 0.023
  • Russia 0.012
  • Italy 0.009
The problem with this argument now is that it is becoming more evident that the people who use it could be the perpetrators. You just can't assume when it comes to rules for radicals. Democrats will do whatever it takes won't they?
 
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