Trump Admin Includes Atlantic Reporter in Airstrike Plans Group Chat
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At least you didn't come in hot or anything.
I thought the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a disaster. While I don't know that a clean and perfect withdrawal was ever really an option, the way it played out was a disaster and organizers or advisors definitely should have been put to pasture.
Was first example that came to my mind.
Agreed. They spent two years investigating Biden's foreign financial ties for an impeachable offense, when Afghanistan was teed up for an impeachment the whole time. Not saying I think he should have been removed but someone should have paid a high price for that disaster.
From all accounts it went great to my knowledge.
As a SC Liberal, just wanted to share that sometimes the "enemy" isn't as single minded as you seem to believe. I guess I'll go back to my circle jerk though.
It gets dumber and dumber and more corrupt as every layer is peeled. These are the traitorous morons that our idiotic voting base wanted.
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Dear Spencer
I listened to 2 different shows today explaining some of the details.
Based on what I heard I am again guessing however it sounds like people are using personal IPHONES and then inviting people into the chat
What is concerning about that is I personally am involved in a HUGE cyber stalking cyber fraud scheme in which my family was victimized and had to fight back.
I or my family was always told about IPHONE is not hackable. Big laugh there. IPHONES are or all smart phones are super vulnerable to cyber hacking.
I have been involved with all kinds of three letter and four letter agencies fighting back and reporting the hacking.
Problem is the law offers little help and you have to fight on your own with the money and expertise you got.
Check out this web site www.cellebrite.com
My family is having mass analysis of our electronics this week. Phones, computers, games, routers, TV's , radios , i watches , etc
Anything electronic
I have access to some people on the dark web who have volunteered to counter attack but that is a really bad idea to link in with criminals
Stay with law enforcement even as bad as they are now and that includes the FBI
a good black hat could have logged into one of the iphones and added their address or someone elses address
I know it is possible as it happened to ME
Dear Spencer
I listened to 2 different shows today explaining some of the details.
Based on what I heard I am again guessing however it sounds like people are using personal IPHONES and then inviting people into the chat
What is concerning about that is I personally am involved in a HUGE cyber stalking cyber fraud scheme in which my family was victimized and had to fight back.
I or my family was always told about IPHONE is not hackable. Big laugh there. IPHONES are or all smart phones are super vulnerable to cyber hacking.
I have been involved with all kinds of three letter and four letter agencies fighting back and reporting the hacking.
Problem is the law offers little help and you have to fight on your own with the money and expertise you got.
Check out this web site www.cellebrite.com
My family is having mass analysis of our electronics this week. Phones, computers, games, routers, TV's , radios , i watches , etc
Anything electronic
I have access to some people on the dark web who have volunteered to counter attack but that is a really bad idea to link in with criminals
Stay with law enforcement even as bad as they are now and that includes the FBI
a good black hat could have logged into one of the iphones and added their address or someone elses address
I know it is possible as it happened to ME
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Well this Administration did promise to be transparent...🤣
I guess I went overboard. Apologies. But you seem to wanting to label everyone as idiots who are part of a liberal circle jerk, so feels like you're treating half the country as part of a "they" like we on this site treat Uof. Also think this thread has been fairly tame with decent back in forth and you raised the temperature needlessly. But you do you.
Wasn't trying to compare the scenarios at all. Was just the first example I could think of of an embarrassment that I absolutely disagreed with.
YOU ARE WAY OVER THE TOP ON THE PUNISHMENT
Love this and agree. Although Dems are having a field day here, the actual intel released wasn't THAT key. Granted it puts operation and soldiers at a higher level of risk, but that risk is pretty low. It's not the end of the world and when you are the Sec of Defense or the National Security Adviser, you tend not to fark up a little bit... any mistakes you make tend to be rather huge. That seems to be the case here.
Like the Hillary issue back during the Obama years, I wasn't as concerned about what she actually did. She made a decision not to beef up certain embassies and put that effort into other embassies. Obviously, a mistake on her part. And people died because of it. That's what happens at that level... you make a mistake and it cost lives. The part that I hated was that she was using a private server for official business. That's a bad, bad thing.
The issue I have here is not the release of info. Yes that was a screw up and needs to be handled, but it's not the end of the world. My problem is (just like with Hillary)... The fact that all these folks are in a classified meeting and are then texting back and forth on their phones about it. I have no idea if those were government issued phones or personal ones, but they were obviously NOT SECURE enough to keep classified info from going out to any contact with the slip of a finger. That's not good b/c these guys are in a lot of other meeting with even more secret info. In this case the reporter in question reported the slip up (as he should have... he is a reporter after all). He didn't release any of the information he had access to AND he removed himself from the chat. What could have happened if this were someone not as nice? How long before someone noticed that he was there? Would this current chat group continue even past the current situation and into the next situation where US troops are shooting live rounds? That seems more likely than not.
Finally the Sec of Defense trashed the reporter in question. Now like it or not, that's Trump 101. If you don't like the information, trash the source. So I'm not that upset about that. BUT the fact is that the Administration had ALREADY admitted the breach before he trashed the guy. And THAT is just plain STUPID. By saying the reporter was lying about something that was obviously true. The Sec of Defense proved to all the world that when something serious goes wrong, he's more than willing to lie about it and blame others instead of just accepting the mistake, correcting it, and moving on. That's not a good look for someone that you are trusting with the lives of literally millions of Americans.
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to stop wasting sunlight heading out to work on my wife's new chicken house villa she wants for her egg laying babies
You guys keep fighting it out
It will be history by Friday with a new Democratic crisis in the news
GO TRUMP GO LOVING MAGA
You guys keep fighting it out
It will be history by Friday with a new Democratic crisis in the news
GO TRUMP GO LOVING MAGA
At most the person that messed up should be fired.
Trump decided that it was OK. He pointed out that it was a small blemish in an otherwise great start to the administration. Sounds like they (finally) admitted their mistakes and aknowledged they could do better.
Personally, I would have fired whomever made the mistake to send a message that our soldiers security is paramount. As it is, I am OK with Trump acknowledging the shortcomings and moving on.
No one, and i mean no one, from the Biden admin should be criticizing this mistake. This is a trivial mistake compared to sh!t show that was the Biden admin.
Honestly, I did not read every single post before I spit one out. I mainly saw the first couple pages of liberal spew, but I get it.
Well deserved, "I told you so's".
To that end, I hope we are all on the same page in terms of keeping soldiers safe and not being so carless with data. That said, I think many good points ITT that suggest our data encryption and device usage needs fixing, for lack of a better term.
I am not into FIRING every low-level employee who was probably instructed by the boss to set up the chat attendees.
Some folks may call for crucifixion, however I am along the lines explain the situation, give the employee additional training and don't hold a Sword of Damocles' over the poor $10 an hour staff assistant
That's just me.
Some people wanting blood I understand. I just believe in levity and getting better as we all learn by mistakes and not success.
So maybe this chapter can close, and we move on.
Now back into the field and keep working on my wifes' Chicken House Taj Mahal LOL
Not that you need my approval, but I think you are spot on.
I 100% agree the real issue is, if the discussion was classified, why was it taking place were someone without clearance could get access via a slip of the finger. And then beyond that, why didn't someone in that chat group (other than the reporter) go ... "Hey guys, OPSEC. We can't talk about this here".
I agree in it not being a good look for the SecDef. I'm not a fan of the SecDef's response, and some of his previous media engagements, TBH. IMHO, Hegseth needs to internalize more that he is no longer a news/commentary personality. There are plenty of other people to go on the attack inside and outside the administration. He is not there yet.
From the SecDef...less is more. Fewer words. Less commentary. Just stick to business and remember that almost as much as the POTUS.. the words that come out of your mouth mean something and will be used as planning inputs by the DoD and others.
Out of him,. IMHO, it should have been simply (if true) ... "No war plans were leaked, the attacks went well and this incident did not have an impact on the outcome, we will investigate how this happened and if things were done incorrectly it will be addressed and measures put in place to prevent a future occurance. The reporter identified himself and removed himself from the conversation and did not report on the incident until after the operation took place. He should be commended for that. I'll have no further comments on this at this time"
Well said. My concern with these people is that they seem to think they can deny/lie about what exactly happened with A JOURNALIST in the chat.
Hegseth already struggles with being credible enough to have the job. Coming out and trying to bully the situation when it is confirmed he is wrong, makes him look even more foolish for having this role.
If the shoe was on the other foot we would have impeachment proceedings
They do not owe those senate dem mofos a book level explanation. Since when are any real answers to questions provided in the congressional hearings?
Apparently one member of the group chat was in Russia? Not great.
Also, allegedly the CIA Director named a covert CIA operative in the chat. Also seems less than great.
(Also not great, some of the Dems in the hearings. I don’t give a sh!t at the emoji usage in their chat. Get out of here with that. Some had great probing questions but hated that.)
Also, allegedly the CIA Director named a covert CIA operative in the chat. Also seems less than great.
(Also not great, some of the Dems in the hearings. I don’t give a sh!t at the emoji usage in their chat. Get out of here with that. Some had great probing questions but hated that.)
They owe the American people big time, and when they got a public forum to explain, they tried to wiggle out of it like rats. And Mr Apprentice isn’t going to fire anybody over it from what it looks like.
Rules for thee, not me. As was pointed out in the hearing, if nothing was classified, release all of it
If you guys are right then start impeachment proceedings. MAGA Force One pushing ahead making America better one day at a time.
Yeah the MAGA (lack of) intelligence community really makes us proud.
What do you mean if we’re right? What’s there to dispute?
And I’m not throwing myself in with the Dems. We here is anybody that’s appalled by this amateur hour
Mike Waltz was just on Laura Ingraham and he said he has never met the Atlantic reporter. He is saying the contact had another name apparently and had that guys number on the contact incorrectly. It would be extremely funny if this was a deep state setup by some admin person who is part of the resistance. Not saying that is the case, but Waltz just said he doesnt know this person and that he didnt add him by his name but he somehow ended up in the correspondence. You libs will quietly and quickly crawl off to another issue if this turns out to be the case.
To clarify though Mike Waltz is taking responsibility for this snafu but he said they are investigating it throroughly.
To clarify though Mike Waltz is taking responsibility for this snafu but he said they are investigating it throroughly.
Having heard a lot more on the leak
This is totally a nothing burger that
really made the leadership of the United States
look FANTASTIC
Democrats and the wild riotous yahoos on here can only wish they were or could be as good as the Trump cabinet and leadership
Eat dust as TRUMP IS WINNING AND WINNING BIG
HIS POLICIES ARE TAKING HOLD AND WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT IN SPITE OF YOUR RESISTANCE TO COMMON SENSE REPUBLICAN POLICIES
This is totally a nothing burger that
really made the leadership of the United States
look FANTASTIC
Democrats and the wild riotous yahoos on here can only wish they were or could be as good as the Trump cabinet and leadership
Eat dust as TRUMP IS WINNING AND WINNING BIG
HIS POLICIES ARE TAKING HOLD AND WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT IN SPITE OF YOUR RESISTANCE TO COMMON SENSE REPUBLICAN POLICIES
Already setting yourself up for the deep state theory. Took a little longer than I thought honestly.
Per Trump the Atlantic is a failed publication and the reporter is a sleazebag. That puts it in better context.
Trump also confirmed that the mission was successful and fully completed. Sorry wily coyote you missed again.
Trump also confirmed that the mission was successful and fully completed. Sorry wily coyote you missed again.
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Putin made this clown wait 8 hours before seeing him. And since these geniuses were doing all of this shit on their personal phones, there's a 100% chance Putin had this idiot's phone hacked while he kept him in Moscow.
True definition of "useful idiots" on display. Mother Russia could only dream of this previously.
