I'm not sure I understand what you're saying/asking. There was nothing in your attachment that was controversial. Trump's EO was different than the issues in the Pew poll. I'm tapping out for tonight but if you can be more specific, I'll follow-up tomorrow, though @iceheart08 would be better equipped to give a more detailed explanation.
Trump Executive Order on Election Security
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He attempts via lawsuits to ensure that the elections are administered in ways more conducive to victory for the dem candidates and thats a fact.
It’s not the ID…it’s having to provide proof of citizenship. An extra step that isn’t necessary.
If my mom had to do this, she doesn’t have a valid passport and also probably doesn’t have her birth certificate any longer. Making her get these things would probably make her not vote…
We need to make it easier for U.S. citizens to vote so their voices are heard.
Doesn't seem like he's doing a lot of winning these days.
I can see why you would like him though Tinkerbell. All he cares about is his side winning (he makes lots of money from it), just like you from Soros.
He's a POS because he gains from trying to tear this country down, and you are firmly on his side.
You're about what supports your liberal/progressive agenda.
This is going to be glorious!
she doesn’t have a valid passport and also probably doesn’t have her birth certificate any longer.
I don't have a passport but I am an American citizen. I choose not to go overseas because I have been there already at gov't expense. I've missed out on many things because of the life I chose. Births, Graduations, Marriages, Anniversaries.
Why would she not have her birth certificate? If the birth certificate was lost there are ways to get another one.
Honest question.
ITS HAPPENING!!!
BREAKING: President Trump says Americans will see how the 2020 election was ‘rigged’ when he declassifies all the documents from the ‘Trump-Russia collusion hoax.’
“That was an election that I won. I won by a lot. You’re going to find that out. The documents are there. The numbers are there. We won that by a lot. We won three elections, and we did very well in the second one.”
BREAKING: President Trump says Americans will see how the 2020 election was ‘rigged’ when he declassifies all the documents from the ‘Trump-Russia collusion hoax.’
“That was an election that I won. I won by a lot. You’re going to find that out. The documents are there. The numbers are there. We won that by a lot. We won three elections, and we did very well in the second one.”
Ridiculous. If you were born here all they have to do is call the hospital they were born in. I’ve had to do that for myself and my children, might take 15 minutes of time and 10$. They’ll give you a BC. It’s incredible to me that you literally typed that having to “provide proof of citizenship” is a radical idea to vote in a country’s elections. lol at you guys. It’s not even difficult. I had not updated my voter registration in 2024 so when I went to vote they say “you’re not on the roll”. Guess what they did, they gave me a paper provisional ballot that allowed me to vote. If I had not had an ID they would have rightfully told me to kick rocks. Get outta here with the excuses. ID is not racist or sexist or anything else. Like I asked ice and never got an answer. This 10% isn’t off the grid with no access to anything. Are any of them on government assistance? Doesn’t that require citizenship and an ID?
The fact that Trump is so confident here has got to be scaring the libs out of their little minds.
A few things here:
I don’t think they are suggesting proof of citizenship every time you vote. It should be a one time thing when you register to vote, which most people do at 18. Perhaps a one time verification for others.
It’s very easy to get a birth certificate if you don’t have one. I’ve done this to have extra copies for my kids and specifically used it when we had to mail birth certificates for their passports. Here’s the link in SC: https://dph.sc.gov/public/vital-records/birth-certificates
You either have to be a citizen or have a certain work permit to get a social security number. If the government wasn’t so shitty at most things, they could modernize their IT and we could do a very simple lookup by SSN and it could tell us whether or not the person is a citizen. That would make for a VERY simple verification - a super easy SSN lookup.
We really have to stop with the extremely low expectations for people. This stuff isn’t hard.
My idea is to put some extra money towards the census and have them work to get all citizens legally allowed to vote any documents you want to then require to vote, etc.
Idk if moneys the answer here. As ice pointed out it’s been going on for decades and money hasn’t fixed it yet. Need to just make it law, then people and their politicians will figure out how to get ID, if that’s even the real issue. We are truly making a mountain out of a mole hill here. You literally need an ID for most meaningful and some trivial things we do here. It shouldn’t be that difficult. No ID, no benefit from government (following the premise these are poor folks). You don’t think that would motivate people?
If we want to throw money at it, incentivize the people with no ID to comply. Pay them 100$ for getting an ID. Incentivize the people, not the bureaucrats.
🚨NEW: Antonio Gracias @AntonioGracias talks about how the fraud in Social Security and Voter Fraud works (12 MINUTES OF MUST WATCH)
GRACIAS: "In 2021, 270,000 non-citizens got social security numbers. In 2024, 2.1M non-citizens got social security numbers.
We went in to find fraud and found this by accident.
I'm an immigrant by the way, this is non-political.
There's a lot of people in Government that took huge risk to get us this information and show us what's going on. These are very good people. I have been from DC, to the social security offices, to the border to track this down."
MUSK: "People think that Biden was asleep at the switch. They weren't asleep at the switch. It was a massive large scale program to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the American people and making it a deep blue one party state from which there would be no escape."
GRACIAS: "Human Traffickers made $13-15B off of this. This is a human tragedy. We created a system that created an incentive for people to come here and get taken advantage of by these traffickers."
MUSK: "This is not made up by the right. This is absolutely true...The real reason for these attacks and the burning of the cars, is that we're going to turn off the payments to illegals...I think this is the biggest voter fraud in the history of America by far. If the machine behind the Kamala puppet had won then they would have legalized all the illegals and there would be no swing states."
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