Trump's border wall was brilliant...

[scotchtiger]

State of Working America Wages 2019: A story of slow, uneven, and unequal wage growth over the last 40 years

Rising wage inequality and slow and uneven hourly wage growth for the vast majority of workers have been defining features of the U.S. labor market for the last four decades, despite steady (if too slow) productivity growth. In only 10 of the last 40 years did most workers see any consistent...

www.epi.org

Just because you are doing well in the stock market, doesn't represent all of America.

That report looks at a 40 year trend. It acknowledges acceleration in wages in the time leading up to Covid. It also points out things like this, which speak to things moving in a positive direction:

• After suffering declines in the aftermath of the Great Recession, in 2019, for the first time, wages at all deciles of the black wage distribution exceeded their 2000 and 2007 levels.
• After widening for most years since 2000, the regression-adjusted black–white wage gap (controlling for education, age, gender, and region) has narrowed over the last year.
• For the first time in this recovery, workers with some college in 2019 just exceeded the 2007 “some college” wage level.

And of course, many of those trends are caused by factors outside the control of a sitting president. Notably the rapid increase in technology and how that has changed the employment landscape - whether that has to do with automation, high skill technical jobs, etc.

 

[scotchtiger]

It has to do with what you vote for. Just as much as you putting "wanting others money" on anyone that votes dem.

It works both ways is my point. So while you hate taxes with a deep passion, others hate the lack of social awareness from the other side.

I'm aware of social and economic issues. I just don't agree with how the government goes about trying to solve them, the amount of money spent and the generally misguided and wholly inefficient bureaucracy fumbling through the process.

 

[TigerGrowls]

State of Working America Wages 2019: A story of slow, uneven, and unequal wage growth over the last 40 years

Rising wage inequality and slow and uneven hourly wage growth for the vast majority of workers have been defining features of the U.S. labor market for the last four decades, despite steady (if too slow) productivity growth. In only 10 of the last 40 years did most workers see any consistent...

www.epi.org

Just because you are doing well in the stock market, doesn't represent all of America.

The bottom line is family income and Trump results crushed the results of previous presidents including lib hero obama.

Middle-Class Income Up $4,100 Under Trump, Rose Only $1k Under Obama & Bush According to Economist Stephen Moore

Economist Stephen Moore has a reality check for them for liberals who don't think that Trump's done much for the middle class.

www.westernjournal.com

 

[TigerGrowls]

I'm sure you'll have a brilliant, moving and intelligent one to counter

You are speculating based on your Trump Derangement Syndrome and not results. Trump got results and you nasty libs hate good stuff for American families for some reason and lived to tear him down including cheering a pandemic unleashed by COMMUNIST CHINA ON PURPOSE. None of it worked in reality though as TRUMP WON!!

IT WILL BE KNOWN BY ALL THAT TRUMP WON BEFORE THIS IS OVER!!

 

[TigerGrowls]

the wall is a joke that was never going to work (see evidence above). You are also a joke.

You are the joke and extremely dumb to boot. Dont blame me for your shortcoming. The wall works and your dem overlords agree with it as evidenced by the wall they put up around the capitol. Just saying man....you calling your papa joe wrong?

 

[TigerGrowls]

I agree with that fact that Mexico paying for it, was complete BS. However, the recent compromising of the new wall is basically because it is and was not finished. As an engineer myself, I took a real interest in how this project was going to work. You can cut thru and climb over just about anything. Sensors had only been installed in portions of the new wall sections. These sensors help detect real time penetrations and allow BP to investigate, if not catch the perpetrators. The wall project was DB phased project that was not allowed completion.
Today, even with the portions of the walls that are complete, their is too much chaos to provide any sort of support or deterrence. Say what you will about the wall, but completely finished it would have work better than anything the US has ever had. That said, I am sure there would have been breaches, but I believe very few are far between and we would've kept improving it. One who thinks that this couldn't have been or wasn't going to be accomplished, is just lying to themselves!

My friend we agree on most things, but look at this closer. By the time his term was over Trump had forced Mexico into coming onto the USMC trade deal and had Mexico stationing 27K or so soldiers policing their side of the border and taking back illegals that we apprehended trying to cross the border. Between the money we gained on the USMC deal and the dramatic drop in illegal crossings the last two years, that savings alone gained from Mexico was enough dollars to pay for the wall that was constructed. This was what Trump meant when he said they would pay for it and I agree with that assessment and think it happened.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

Trump: 30ft Border wall for billions and billions of dollars. It will keep us safe.

Illegal Immigrants: 40 ft. extension ladder... $49.95 + 30 ft. of rope for $19.95 at Lowes.


So simple, even toddlers can do it. Do you feel safer now? Good thing Mexico picked up the tab for that.

Lazer sited machine guns mounted on top of wall would be a deterrent.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

I'm sure you'll have a brilliant, moving and intelligent one to counter

It will be interesting after all the misrepresentations in the media are revealed and election fraud is finally in the news, if you will ever realize how wrong you’ve been or if you’ll perpetuate your hate on Trump.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

Probably the most sensible thing I have read of yours. Not being an ass, we just don't agree on a lot, but looks like we agree on more than I thought.

Term limits are the answer, we should be demanding this, it’s the only way to get the country back in the hands of the people, regardless of which side. Term limits and election integrity are the 2 most important items facing our country right now

 

[dpic73]

It will be interesting after all the misrepresentations in the media are revealed and election fraud is finally in the news, if you will ever realize how wrong you’ve been or if you’ll perpetuate your hate on Trump.

I would hate Trump the human even if there was widespread fraud, but there wasn't. "Finally in the news" LMAO. Where were you the last five months?

 

[SconnyTiger25]

I would hate Trump the human even if there was widespread fraud, but there wasn't. "Finally in the news" LMAO. Where were you the last five months?

Doing my own research

 

[TigerGrowls]

Papa Joe seeing the light?

Biden DHS Chief Considers Building More Sections of Border Wall to Fill in "Gaps" | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

All of a sudden border walls aren’t racist.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[hopefultiger13]

Lazer sited machine guns mounted on top of wall would be a deterrent.

I'm going to say no to that. Automatically shooting the kids that are being smuggled into the US seems... well, just plain evil. We all are going to have to face Jesus one of these days and I'm certainly counting on his grace as I'm far, far from being without sin. But automatically shooting people from trying to get into the US? Might be fun to think about some of those Mexican gang guys taking a few rounds to the head (and I wouldn't care one bit)... but nope.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

I'm going to say no to that. Automatically shooting the kids that are being smuggled into the US seems... well, just plain evil. We all are going to have to face Jesus one of these days and I'm certainly counting on his grace as I'm far, far from being without sin. But automatically shooting people from trying to get into the US? Might be fun to think about some of those Mexican gang guys taking a few rounds to the head (and I wouldn't care one bit)... but nope.

Bit of shock n awe. Anyway, would never happen, I am glad that Biden is saying now he wants to finish the wall

 

[moradatiger70]

Saying vs doing, we shall see.
The best part of doing it, other than the obvious, would be the MSM's scramble to spin it.

 

[yoshi121374]

Wiping out student loans does nothing to control the cost of higher education, which is a problem. If you’ve read my posts, you know I’m all about attacking the root cause of the problem, not handing out money that does nothing to actually solve an issue.

I’m pro choice (pragmatically) so not sure what the next comment has to do with me. But again, nobody is focused on the root cause. Why are we killing 600K babies per year? Focus on birth control access, real world reproductive education, etc. Try to drive down the need for abortions.

Totally agree with your Pro-Choice take and one if the reasons I find you enjoyable to discuss issues with. We may disagree on some issues,but you certainly have well thought and reasoned beliefs. I respect that.

 

[yoshi121374]

My friend we agree on most things, but look at this closer. By the time his term was over Trump had forced Mexico into coming onto the USMC trade deal and had Mexico stationing 27K or so soldiers policing their side of the border and taking back illegals that we apprehended trying to cross the border. Between the money we gained on the USMC deal and the dramatic drop in illegal crossings the last two years, that savings alone gained from Mexico was enough dollars to pay for the wall that was constructed. This was what Trump meant when he said they would pay for it and I agree with that assessment and think it happened.

If you really belief this is what he meant you are more if a moron than I believed. He never had a plan, he just knew racists would eat this shit up. His whole "tough guy" act.

 

[scotchtiger]

Totally agree with your Pro-Choice take and one if the reasons I find you enjoyable to discuss issues with. We may disagree on some issues,but you certainly have well thought and reasoned beliefs. I respect that.

 

[TigerGrowls]

If you really belief this is what he meant you are more if a moron than I believed. He never had a plan, he just knew racists would eat this shit up. His whole "tough guy" act.

I know its what he meant. You are wrong and not smart. When you mix that with your irrational TDS, then its not a good thing.

 

[TheValley91]

I'm aware of social and economic issues. I just don't agree with how the government goes about trying to solve them, the amount of money spent and the generally misguided and wholly inefficient bureaucracy fumbling through the process.

Well unfortunately social issues like gay marriage, civil rights, women's rights etc have to be enforced by government because society itself was unwilling to handle those issues on their own.

Again, you've decided to be on the opposite side of those things (republican) because your vote comes with the idea of lower taxes. That's your prerogative. I do not agree with that stance personally.

 

[scotchtiger]

Well unfortunately social issues like gay marriage, civil rights, women's rights etc have to be enforced by government because society itself was unwilling to handle those issues on their own.

Again, you've decided to be on the opposite side of those things (republican) because your vote comes with the idea of lower taxes. That's your prerogative. I do not agree with that stance personally.

What exactly are the opposite Republican positions on gay rights, civil rights and women’s rights?

 

[TheValley91]

What exactly are the opposite Republican positions on gay rights, civil rights and women’s rights?

Well the Republican platform in 2016 and 2020 both believe that marriage should be between a man and woman and also condemned the Supreme Court decision of US vs Windsor.

Republicans want to infringe on the rights of women when it comes to abortion and the ability to fund women's health organizations (Planned Parenthood).

Republicans have pushed against affirmative action and also had an elected official who numerous times could not denounce white supremacy.

Again, taxes are a bigger priority to you than social issues like these. That is your prerogative to vote that way.

 

[AugTig]

Well the Republican platform in 2016 and 2020 both believe that marriage should be between a man and woman and also condemned the Supreme Court decision of US vs Windsor.

Republicans want to infringe on the rights of women when it comes to abortion and the ability to fund women's health organizations (Planned Parenthood).

Republicans have pushed against affirmative action and also had an elected official who numerous times could not denounce white supremacy.

Again, taxes are a bigger priority to you than social issues like these. That is your prerogative to vote that way.

so it’s all about taxes? Good grief

 

[TheValley91]

so it’s all about taxes? Good grief

To the poster I'm responding to, he has placed taxes at a higher priority yes.

 

[scotchtiger]

Well the Republican platform in 2016 and 2020 both believe that marriage should be between a man and woman and also condemned the Supreme Court decision of US vs Windsor.

Republicans want to infringe on the rights of women when it comes to abortion and the ability to fund women's health organizations (Planned Parenthood).

Republicans have pushed against affirmative action and also had an elected official who numerous times could not denounce white supremacy.

Again, taxes are a bigger priority to you than social issues like these. That is your prerogative to vote that way.

This reads like stock democrat talking points intended to divide.

Where on the Republican platform is the gay marriage thing? Where's the legislation? Nobody cares anymore. Just like Joe Biden strongly believed marriage is between a man and a woman when he was VP, most people have moved on and Republicans are no different.

Republicans also aren't banning abortion. The prevailing position is that it should be "safe, legal and rare." Any limitations are focused on voluntary late term abortions. I'm pragmatically pro choice, but I do find it odd that a core thesis of one's political beliefs would hinge on the ability to kill babies...

Please highlight this push against affirmative action? And the white supremacy thing is just a ridiculous partisan talking point. In no way does my support of a Republican candidate have anything to do with white supremacy. It's absurd.

You keep trying to spin this as I only care about taxes and not other issues, but you completely ignore all of the other points I have made. Taxes are one part, but my core political belief is in a smaller, more efficient, less intrusive federal government, focusing on the root cause of problems and personal responsibility.

For example, I would like to see social initiatives focused on the following:

• Career counseling
• Trade career development
• Fatherless homes
• Healthy food access
• Personal finance education
• Nutritional education

Those items begin to address the root cause of problems in underserved communities. They will also lead to improved health, improved welfare, improved economic position and less government reliance. These far more valuable to the fabric of our nation than forcing to employers to hire people based on the color of their skin, or admonishing an entire country for being "systemically racist."

Democrats use these issues divide and attempt to cast the "other side" in a negative light - just like you did. They don't actually seem concerned with solving real problems and improving lives.