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Ukraine has pushed to the Russian border.

This is likely the case. The US will help the Uks replenish their Russian gear. We'll use our connections to buy them hardware and parts from other countries. We'll funnel it quietly through Poland to Ukraine, Then we will more that likely agree to help that country purchase new US equipment. I can really see Poland waiting to get rid of their Soviet stuff and align their hardware more with NATO.

That said, the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) policy has really tightened up. The Arab countries are really pissed at how hard we make it. The want US stuff but we make it so hard to buy. The pit the Chinese and Russians against us regularly. They will admit, though, that the Russia stuff isn't as good and that the Chinese have lot of strings attached to the purchase.

A lot of times we offer to sell countries staff that is out of date. The countries know this and get pissed that we don't offer them the latest version. I believe our laws are that we can't sell anyone equipment that could be a threat to us. Example: The F-35's we are selling NATO and Israel ARE NOT the same that we are flying. They don't get ALL the bells and whistles.
I think I read that the Israeli F16s are actually sold without any of the electronics in them (radar, etc). Israel puts their own stuff in there. I assume the flight control systems are included.

Based on what little I know, I'd rather have a 1-2 generation old M1 vs the Russian stuff.
 
I think I read that the Israeli F16s are actually sold without any of the electronics in them (radar, etc). Israel puts their own stuff in there. I assume the flight control systems are included.

Based on what little I know, I'd rather have a 1-2 generation old M1 vs the Russian stuff.
I'm not sure about the Israel F-16s but it wouldn't surprise me. The version we sell F-16s to other countries is a big deal. Most hate that we provide older radars that don't help them with BVR engagements.

The F-16 has been a great aircraft. Because of it price tag, versatility, and capability, lots of countries have adopted it as their front line fighter. It's served well. But its starting to get a little far behind in the rear view mirror. As we are selective on who we sell F-35's too, there's not a great affordable (US) options out there for a lot of our partners out there.
 
Amen to that brother. What a badass!

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He will go down in history as a fantastic leader I think. Regardless of his politics (I have no idea of his policies at all) the way he’s handled everything from literally suiting up with his country despite being Putin’s #1 target, that’s a MF’er that I want to fight for
 
He will go down in history as a fantastic leader I think. Regardless of his politics (I have no idea of his policies at all) the way he’s handled everything from literally suiting up with his country despite being Putin’s #1 target, that’s a MF’er that I want to fight for
Who cares what his politics are, this is bigger than that. We should all be on his side. That dude is fearless and if Ukraine wins, he'll be the face of democracy.

Even more interesting is his backstory if you aren't aware. He was an actor who played the role of the Ukrainian president in a popular comedy show over there, before he got in to politics. Crazy story
 
Who cares what his politics are, this is bigger than that. We should all be on his side. That dude is fearless and if Ukraine wins, he'll be the face of democracy.

Even more interesting is his backstory if you aren't aware. He was an actor who played the role of the Ukrainian president in a popular comedy show over there, before he got in to politics. Crazy story
I remember the MAGA and “conspiracy” guys going in-depth about him back during the BS quid pro quo impeachment nonsense. They’d probably be a good resource to fill us in on Zelensky’s background

What about his house in SoFla and his BDSM dungeon, can you fill us in on that?
 
Ukraine has won a few battles to push the Russians back but they've done so with a heavy cost to large/tactical weapons. They are once again low on supply as they are burning through them at very high rates, so while it's great news to see them on the offensive, it comes at a high cost. The reality of this war Is it's really US/NATO vs Russia and who will run out of steam/weapons first.

The angle of this we should all be thinking about is what happens if Russia thinks they are losing? What will Putin do next if you back him into a corner? Now would be an appropriate time for a. neutral nation or nations plural to push for a peace treaty so we can end this before Putin does something stupid. Unfortunately, that can't be us given the proxy war we've been fighting.
 
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I remember the MAGA and “conspiracy” guys going in-depth about him back during the BS quid pro quo impeachment nonsense. They’d probably be a good resource to fill us in on Zelensky’s background

What about his house in SoFla and his BDSM dungeon, can you fill us in on that?
You obviously know more than we do so maybe someone "filled you" in there down there? But spare us the details - we don't need to hear about your kink
 
Ukraine has won a few battles to push the Russians back but they've done so with a heavy cost to large/tactical weapons. They are once again low on supply as they are burning through them at very high rates, so while it's great news to see them on the offensive, it comes at a high cost. The reality of this war Is it's really US/NATO vs Russia and who will run out of steam/weapons first.

The angle of this we should all be thinking about is what happens if Russia thinks they are losing? What will Putin do next if you back him into a corner? Now would be an appropriate time for a. neutral nation or nations plural to push for a peace treaty so we can end this before Putin does something stupid. Unfortunately, that can't be us given the proxy war we've been fighting.
He'll spin it and go back to enriching himself at the expense of the Russian people. They already are losing.

He's not launching nukes over a conventional war in Ukraine that he started. The nuclear blackmail BS is illogical. They'll threaten the West regardless of what we do.
 

US military drawing from its stockpiles to send to Ukraine. I am not in favor of any US involvement in Ukraine.
In a perfect world all nuclear nations would agree to throw hands up, back down and let the skirmishes happen and not get involved. Unfortunately that’s not the world we live in. Gotta ask yourself why?
 
You obviously know more than we do so maybe someone "filled you" in there down there? But spare us the details - we don't need to hear about your kink
Truth is the idiots on this board who claim to have it all figured out only know what their chosen “news” outlet tells them. It’s hilarious to see in real time
 
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Truth is the idiots on this board who claim to have it all figured out only know what their chosen “news” outlet tells them. It’s hilarious to see in real time
I only trust JoeBidenSniffsKids to tell tell me what the truth is - I know nothing about this Hammerdawg troll.
 

US military drawing from its stockpiles to send to Ukraine. I am not in favor of any US involvement in Ukraine.

Why? The benefits of our involvement will be significant. We are decimating Russia economically and militarily. We are building a future ally in Ukraine - one who has significant energy resources and is one of the largest countries in Europe. We are expanding NATO. We are removing Russian energy dependence.

We are asserting ourselves as THE global military power - able to defeat mighty Russia simply by sending superior weapons and intelligence. This will lead to more global influence and also a boom to our defense industry as countries will turn away from Russian weapons and want US equipment.

Not to mention the “good guy” part of saving a sovereign country from being taken over by commie trash who torture civilians.

There is very little downside for the US and a whole bunch of upside. I don’t understand the people railing against our involvement at all.
 
Why? The benefits of our involvement will be significant. We are decimating Russia economically and militarily. We are building a future ally in Ukraine - one who has significant energy resources and is one of the largest countries in Europe. We are expanding NATO. We are removing Russian energy dependence.

We are asserting ourselves as THE global military power - able to defeat mighty Russia simply by sending superior weapons and intelligence. This will lead to more global influence and also a boom to our defense industry as countries will turn away from Russian weapons and want US equipment.

Not to mention the “good guy” part of saving a sovereign country from being taken over by commie trash who torture civilians.

There is very little downside for the US and a whole bunch of upside. I don’t understand the people railing against our involvement at all.
Rubes who can’t comprehend the notion that the US government can spend money abroad to the benefit of the world, the American people, and the domestic economy
 
Why? The benefits of our involvement will be significant. We are decimating Russia economically and militarily. We are building a future ally in Ukraine - one who has significant energy resources and is one of the largest countries in Europe. We are expanding NATO. We are removing Russian energy dependence.

We are asserting ourselves as THE global military power - able to defeat mighty Russia simply by sending superior weapons and intelligence. This will lead to more global influence and also a boom to our defense industry as countries will turn away from Russian weapons and want US equipment.

Not to mention the “good guy” part of saving a sovereign country from being taken over by commie trash who torture civilians.

There is very little downside for the US and a whole bunch of upside. I don’t understand the people railing against our involvement at all.
Well it’s clear you’ve wholly bought into the talking points. Ukraine is not your run of the mill European country, it’s a really fvcked up place. The nazis(literal nazis, not make believe milquetoast American “nazis”) in the east are slaughtering ethnic Russians and have been for years. You cool with that?

A significant portion of that “sovereign” country is Russian, identifies as such, and would prefer to be a part of Russia… Because it historically IS Russian. It’s a divided country that was split on a whim much like Pakistan and India. Your western idea of the country is clearly based on misinformation

Why do you want to destroy Russia economically? That’s a really weird flex. Really, really weird

Is Russia a global military power or not? Y’all can’t make up your mind on that and have severe cognitive dissonance on this one. Figure it out

You like to consider yourself a conservative, but you sound like a war mongering George Bush style republican who will justify anything to go to war… I guess it’s does stimulate the economy after all…
 
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Well it’s clear you’ve wholly bought into the talking points. Ukraine is not your run of the mill European country, it’s a really fvcked up place. The nazis(literal nazis, not make believe milquetoast American “nazis”) in the east are slaughtering ethnic Russians and have been for years. You cool with that?

A significant portion of that “sovereign” country is Russian, identifies as such, and would prefer to be a part of Russia… Because it historically IS Russian. It’s a divided country that was split on a whim much like Pakistan and India. Your western idea of the country is clearly based on misinformation

Why do you want to destroy Russia economically? That’s a really weird flex. Really, really weird

Is Russia a global military power or not? Y’all can’t make up your mind on that and have severe cognitive dissonance on this one. Figure it out

You like to consider yourself a conservative, but you sound like a war mongering George Bush style republican who will justify anything to go to war… I guess it’s does stimulate the economy after all…

I understand that Ukraine is not like other western European countries. I guess you would need to define "significant portion" and also segment it geographically. The only portions of the country where this applies were the areas already annexed by Russia - Crimea and DPR/LPR. Notwithstanding, I'm not sure why that would make it okay for Russia to invade the country, including attacking the capitol (ie not just the heavy Russian areas).

Did you recently learn cognitive dissonance in a weekly wordly wise or something? It seems you use it in every post.

Russia was considered by everyone to be a top 3 military in the world prior to this invasion. What is there to make up one's mind about? That portion of your post makes no sense.

During this war, Russia has been exposed as having poor training, antiquated weaponry, poor strategy and incompetent leadership. Further, they have expended/lost massive amounts of troops, specialists, tanks, weapons, etc. Due to sanctions and other factors, they are generally unable to replace much of this.

Post Ukraine war Russia may indeed lose its status as a global military power - largely because of US support.

I'm not war mongering. We're not even sending troops. We're cycling through weaponry in storage while learning a ton about its effectiveness, and accomplishing all of the things I mentioned earlier.

It's wild to me how some "conservatives" have found themselves on this end of the Ukraine war discussion. Efficiently projecting military strength and repelling commies should get an American flag waving yee haw out of you. But Tucker and all the echo chamber nonsense is ruining some of you.
 
Well it’s clear you’ve wholly bought into the talking points. Ukraine is not your run of the mill European country, it’s a really fvcked up place. The nazis(literal nazis, not make believe milquetoast American “nazis”) in the east are slaughtering ethnic Russians and have been for years. You cool with that?

A significant portion of that “sovereign” country is Russian, identifies as such, and would prefer to be a part of Russia… Because it historically IS Russian. It’s a divided country that was split on a whim much like Pakistan and India. Your western idea of the country is clearly based on misinformation

Why do you want to destroy Russia economically? That’s a really weird flex. Really, really weird

Is Russia a global military power or not? Y’all can’t make up your mind on that and have severe cognitive dissonance on this one. Figure it out

You like to consider yourself a conservative, but you sound like a war mongering George Bush style republican who will justify anything to go to war… I guess it’s does stimulate the economy after all…
Ukraine is a sovereign state. That some portion of the population is ethnically Russian isn't casus belli.

Your regurgitation of Kremlin misinformation about an invented "genocide" in Ukraine's east is laughable.

Russia used to be a global military power. It's being dismantled as we speak.
 
I understand that Ukraine is not like other western European countries. I guess you would need to define "significant portion" and also segment it geographically. The only portions of the country where this applies were the areas already annexed by Russia - Crimea and DPR/LPR. Notwithstanding, I'm not sure why that would make it okay for Russia to invade the country, including attacking the capitol (ie not just the heavy Russian areas).

Did you recently learn cognitive dissonance in a weekly wordly wise or something? It seems you use it in every post.

Russia was considered by everyone to be a top 3 military in the world prior to this invasion. What is there to make up one's mind about? That portion of your post makes no sense.

During this war, Russia has been exposed as having poor training, antiquated weaponry, poor strategy and incompetent leadership. Further, they have expended/lost massive amounts of troops, specialists, tanks, weapons, etc. Due to sanctions and other factors, they are generally unable to replace much of this.

Post Ukraine war Russia may indeed lose its status as a global military power - largely because of US support.

I'm not war mongering. We're not even sending troops. We're cycling through weaponry in storage while learning a ton about its effectiveness, and accomplishing all of the things I mentioned earlier.

It's wild to me how some "conservatives" have found themselves on this end of the Ukraine war discussion. Efficiently projecting military strength and repelling commies should get an American flag waving yee haw out of you. But Tucker and all the echo chamber nonsense is ruining some of you.
American “conservatives” increasingly sound like tankies
 
And thank goodness that is the case. If one thing is for certain, China is by far are greatest threat over Russia, and it isn't close
Indeed, idea is hopefully to take care of Russia, build up NATO, then pivot to the Pacific
 
Why? The benefits of our involvement will be significant. We are decimating Russia economically and militarily. We are building a future ally in Ukraine - one who has significant energy resources and is one of the largest countries in Europe. We are expanding NATO. We are removing Russian energy dependence.

We are asserting ourselves as THE global military power - able to defeat mighty Russia simply by sending superior weapons and intelligence. This will lead to more global influence and also a boom to our defense industry as countries will turn away from Russian weapons and want US equipment.

Not to mention the “good guy” part of saving a sovereign country from being taken over by commie trash who torture civilians.

There is very little downside for the US and a whole bunch of upside. I don’t understand the people railing against our involvement at all.
I am against US involvement in foreign wars when there is no clear strategic interest or reason and this Ukraine situation does not qualify in my opinion. This is on my principle and beliefs that I have held for a long time. I also think there is a lot of propaganda going on as to how well Ukraine is actually doing. Russia is currently considering this a special operation in Ukraine. They have not even gone into war mode yet.

How much of the billions being sent is actually going to Ukraine? I am wondering where all these billions of dollars of dark campaign funds being funneled into political races by the left is coming from and wondering if some of its being laundered back over this way after being sent as foreign aid.
 
I am against US involvement in foreign wars when there is no clear strategic interest or reason and this Ukraine situation does not qualify in my opinion. This is on my principle and beliefs that I have held for a long time. I also think there is a lot of propaganda going on as to how well Ukraine is actually doing. Russia is currently considering this a special operation in Ukraine. They have not even gone into war mode yet.

How much of the billions being sent is actually going to Ukraine? I am wondering where all these billions of dollars of dark campaign funds being funneled into political races by the left is coming from and wondering if some of its being laundered back over this way after being sent as foreign aid.
What would qualify as a larger strategic interest in your view?

It’s not clear Russia can mobilize more. There are limits to equipment, and Putin doesn’t want to admit the whole “special military operation” isn’t going to plan and requires more troops.

The last paragraph is just bizarre
 
What would qualify as a larger strategic interest in your view?

It’s not clear Russia can mobilize more. There are limits to equipment, and Putin doesn’t want to admit the whole “special military operation” isn’t going to plan and requires more troops.

The last paragraph is just bizarre
Last paragraph is a theory and a hunch all rolled in one.
 
I am against US involvement in foreign wars when there is no clear strategic interest or reason and this Ukraine situation does not qualify in my opinion. This is on my principle and beliefs that I have held for a long time. I also think there is a lot of propaganda going on as to how well Ukraine is actually doing. Russia is currently considering this a special operation in Ukraine. They have not even gone into war mode yet.

How much of the billions being sent is actually going to Ukraine? I am wondering where all these billions of dollars of dark campaign funds being funneled into political races by the left is coming from and wondering if some of its being laundered back over this way after being sent as foreign aid.

We're just misaligned on the strategic interest. It's a global economy and we're tied to Europe. Decreasing Russian influence and increasing US influence is a good thing. Reducing dependence on Russian energy and long term stabilization is a good thing. Expanding Western oriented democratically run countries is preferred to expansion of autocratic socialist regimes (what Ukraine would be if overtaken). Massive learnings about battle tactics, weapon effectiveness and general modern warfare are in our strategic interest.

We are doing all these things without putting US troops in harms way. I think you are taking a very narrow and shortsighted view of US strategic interests.

I would support additional oversight of all government spending including spending on the war in Ukraine. Ensure financial and weapon tracking and oversight. Any government official, relative or campaign fund found to have profited in any way from the war funding faces stiff financial penalties, jail time and immediate forfeiture of position, pension and benefits.
 
We're just misaligned on the strategic interest. It's a global economy and we're tied to Europe. Decreasing Russian influence and increasing US influence is a good thing. Reducing dependence on Russian energy and long term stabilization is a good thing. Expanding Western oriented democratically run countries is preferred to expansion of autocratic socialist regimes (what Ukraine would be if overtaken). Massive learnings about battle tactics, weapon effectiveness and general modern warfare are in our strategic interest.

We are doing all these things without putting US troops in harms way. I think you are taking a very narrow and shortsighted view of US strategic interests.

I would support additional oversight of all government spending including spending on the war in Ukraine. Ensure financial and weapon tracking and oversight. Any government official, relative or campaign fund found to have profited in any way from the war funding faces stiff financial penalties, jail time and immediate forfeiture of position, pension and benefits.

All of this.

I think you overestimate the ability of some on here to understand this. Trump says Russia good so Russia good for some.
 
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He will go down in history as a fantastic leader I think. Regardless of his politics (I have no idea of his policies at all) the way he’s handled everything from literally suiting up with his country despite being Putin’s #1 target, that’s a MF’er that I want to fight for
And like most American politicians he went in almost broke and is now a multimillionaire.
 
Earlier than 1990 their subs were noisy. Very noisy. Old P-3 guys I flew with would brag about tracking 2-3 at the same time. We could do this because they were so loud, a couple of buoys would hold contact for a long time. This makes the tracking problem easier. It's literally like a single DB covering multiple receivers. The son of a bitch John Walker gave the Russia's the codes to our TS communications. They could now read some of our communications. What they learned is that we could track their subs very easily. They didn't think we could because their ability to track our guys was very limited. As a result, they invested in quieting their subs. In a matter of years, the acoustic ranges dramatically reduced. We could still track them. It was just a lot more work.

Our sub guys are very, very quiet and good at what they do. Much better than the Russians or anyone else.

Russia and China hate each other. The only thing that drives them together is their mutual hate of us. Just know in that relationship, Putin will be Xi's bitch.

Yes - Russia used front line units for their initial assault. Many of them have been chewed up. They have lost a lot of equipment. The Uks have destroyed a bunch. The Russians have abandoned even more. Logistics is to a military as an OL is to an offense. If you don't have it, your stuff breaks down, and it's no good. Guns aren't good without bullets and vehicles don't move without gas. The Russian logistics have been very poor. It has hampered them pressing assaults. The Uk's have targeted supply vehicles and depot areas hampering Ivan even more.

Many Russian enlisted are conscripts. The Russian NCO Corps has never been seen as very strong. NCO's are the heart of a professional military. The quality of life in the Russian military is pretty poor. The guys don't stick around if they don't really need to. Thus a lack of good NCO's. My understanding is that part of the problem is the troops in the field weren't maintaining equipment like they should. As a result, it broke down. That's a training issue. It's a sign they don't get out in the field regularly and operate in combat conditions. Again, its a sign of a weak NCO corps (who are the SME's on their equipment.) My understanding is that Russia has taken to adding mercs and Chechens to replenish their ranks in Ukraine. They are available troops they don't have to train. They have used Mercs in Syria (we killed a bunch of them).

Russians can make good stuff. They just can't afford to make it in large quantities. I saw an unclass analysis of their fighter pilots flight hour program. Its barely enough to be safe flying let alone have a training regime that makes you proficient at air-to-air and air-to-ground. We use a lot of smart weapons on our planes. All our fighters can drop LGB's and GBU's. They are very precise and have a very high hit rate. Most Russian fighters can't carry smart weapons. They only configure a few to drop them. Why? They don't have a lot. They still rely on dumb iron. That's one reason why you see a lot of CIVCAS reports in Ukraine.

That's why the HIMARS we sent is a game changer. You could set one of those up in Death Valley and obliterate the Gamecock logo on Billy Brice with ease. Challenge with it is that the ammo is expensive.

Some folks have said, "Sell Ukraine F-16s." (or some other weapons system). It's not that easy. It takes months of training for a pilot to become proficient in the weapon system. It take millions and millions of dollars to build up supplies of parts, tools, testing equipment etc. It take YEARS to train young men to maintain the equipment right. We've been training the Iraqi's for more than a decade to fly and maintain a handful of F-16s. They still need contractor help to maintain them. Same goes for the former Afghan Air Force (hell we had to teach their guys to read first). They never got to a point they could really maintain the gear on their own.

When you see a pair of fighters overfly Death Valley it is truly an expression of national power. Our capitalist society drove investment and innovation for companies to supply these weapons. US engineers designed the aircraft. US scientists researched new weapons. Our schools produced young men and women capable of operating and maintaining these incredibly complex weapon systems. And our factories cranked them out. There's literally only a handful of countries in the world that can do this.

I worked with the Ukrainians in 2008 for a few weeks. Great guys. Very professional. But they were students of Russian military tactics and organization. They were very rigid, would not take chances, and decisions were made at the highest level. I came away wondering why were were ever scared of these guys. We'd have fought circles around them. At the outset of this conflict, I though Russia would steamroll these guys. Much like my prediction that Clemson would steamroll Ohio State in 2020, I was way wrong. Some of the things I have read lead me to believe Ukraine is playing chess while the Russians are playing checkers. Now let's be clear, Ukraine has gotten its ass handed to them too. They've lost a lot. But right now, they seem to have the upper hand. Winter is coming which generally means a slow down in fighting. It'll be interesting to see what happens next Spring. I don't know anything for a fact, but I'd be shocked is US SOF isn't there soaking up intel and training and advising Ukraine as well. I also have the strong suspicion that there are plenty of American Soldiers of Fortune over there as well. I know a Citadel buddy who is a former Ranger and is over there on a "humanitarian mission." Handing out Band-Aids and biscuits ain't his style.
awesome...thanks for posting
 
I see now that Russia has started calling in reserve troops to fight in Ukraine.

Which suggests that a) My theory about them using their second-line troops first is probably bullshvt and b) they are getting desperate.
 
I see now that Russia has started calling in reserve troops to fight in Ukraine.

Which suggests that a) My theory about them using their second-line troops first is probably bullshvt and b) they are getting desperate.
They're also using mercenaries from the Wagner group in the Kherson region. Wagner is rushing their positions to flush them out for targeting.
 
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Being trained to use the equipment is more important than giving them the equipment

If we keep doing what we are doing things will work out fine

And do know that American weapon makers are in the field in the Ukraine studying how to make better weapons as we sit here and observe

The Ukrainians are helping the US develop the next generation of killers

Thats the way it is
We have a member here (@BonesF15) who flies - or flew - the F15 (he may have retired or transitioned to another aircraft or something). He tells a story about going against an F22 and actually beating it in a simulated combat exercise. Twice.

He credits it to the fact that he had something like 1500 hours in the F15 and the F22 pilot had something like 7 in it. Which led to the F15 being able to maximize it's ability while the F22 was more focused on not stuffing it into the ground.

He says the F22 is an absolutely unbelievable aircraft. But the pilot has to know how to use it - just like anything else. I remember the pilot who belly-flopped one while playing with the thrust vectoring system at low altitude.

Amazingly that aircraft was repaired and flew again.

But the point is that - like you state - you have to know how to operate the aircraft.
 
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Interesting comments by many.
  • Ukraine has a nazi problem like the US does: meaning it doesn't. That's pure Russian propaganda. Zelenisky is Jewish.
  • Yes, there are many Ukrainians who seek to align with Russia vice the West.
  • The fight in Ukraine isn't worth a single US life.
  • Providing Ukraine with arms and support is worth some US treasure. Anything that bogs down Russian efforts elsewhere in the world and weakens Putin is good. I question the vast amount of money we are sending Ukraine, Ukraine is a corrupt country. A lot of this money is going to end up in criminal hands. Only a percent will be used for what we intend.
  • We should have zero desire for Ukraine to be a part of NATO. It'll never happen now. Europe doesn't have the stomach for this.
  • I think it is clear that once having Hunter Biden on the board of your energy company was worth every dime they paid. They've gotten the money back a hundred fold.
 
Interesting comments by many.
  • Ukraine has a nazi problem like the US does: meaning it doesn't. That's pure Russian propaganda. Zelenisky is Jewish.
  • Yes, there are many Ukrainians who seek to align with Russia vice the West.
  • The fight in Ukraine isn't worth a single US life.
  • Providing Ukraine with arms and support is worth some US treasure. Anything that bogs down Russian efforts elsewhere in the world and weakens Putin is good. I question the vast amount of money we are sending Ukraine, Ukraine is a corrupt country. A lot of this money is going to end up in criminal hands. Only a percent will be used for what we intend.
  • We should have zero desire for Ukraine to be a part of NATO. It'll never happen now. Europe doesn't have the stomach for this.
  • I think it is clear that once having Hunter Biden on the board of your energy company was worth every dime they paid. They've gotten the money back a hundred fold.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good as they say
 
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More unmotivated cannon fodder and the usual assortment of empty threats.
The scary part is that Russia does have a decent collection of nukes (if they haven't sold them all).

Accuracy is probably crap. But if they launch the damn things, they will hit somewhere. And some are so darn big that they don't have to be very accurate.

That is a concern.
 
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor. If you want to hear the truth and not propaganda then this is interesting. This was recorded on September 19th.
 
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I understand that Ukraine is not like other western European countries. I guess you would need to define "significant portion" and also segment it geographically. The only portions of the country where this applies were the areas already annexed by Russia - Crimea and DPR/LPR. Notwithstanding, I'm not sure why that would make it okay for Russia to invade the country, including attacking the capitol (ie not just the heavy Russian areas).

Did you recently learn cognitive dissonance in a weekly wordly wise or something? It seems you use it in every post.

Russia was considered by everyone to be a top 3 military in the world prior to this invasion. What is there to make up one's mind about? That portion of your post makes no sense.

During this war, Russia has been exposed as having poor training, antiquated weaponry, poor strategy and incompetent leadership. Further, they have expended/lost massive amounts of troops, specialists, tanks, weapons, etc. Due to sanctions and other factors, they are generally unable to replace much of this.

Post Ukraine war Russia may indeed lose its status as a global military power - largely because of US support.

I'm not war mongering. We're not even sending troops. We're cycling through weaponry in storage while learning a ton about its effectiveness, and accomplishing all of the things I mentioned earlier.

It's wild to me how some "conservatives" have found themselves on this end of the Ukraine war discussion. Efficiently projecting military strength and repelling commies should get an American flag waving yee haw out of you. But Tucker and all the echo chamber nonsense is ruining some of you.
I’m not getting into it with you. If you honestly believe what you typed about Russia being exposed and losing its status as a military power, well… You’ll be transitioning your children in no time

Im not pro-Putin but good lord. Do you really think he went on the offensive just to get exposed like this? Whatever you’re reading is filling your head with nonsense. Russia is not that weak lmao

If I’m wrong i will come back and eat crow
 
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