Ukraine War
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WTF are you talking about? I absolutely do care about a fellow democracy and ally because it's the right thing to do and it's the right thing for America to do, or it used to be.
Nope, maga is not representative of the real America and I'm sticking around until it's vanquished - which may not be long at the rate it's going.
I’ll always love the dipshits who pop in with “if you don’t like it then get out!”
Why don’t you actually consider the suggestion then? Go! Nobody wants to hear you lefties bitch nonstop
You are so lost..... Get help and get off the internet, you can't handle it.
You are such a gullible loser - anybody could splice together a bunch of short clips to make propaganda videos that makes it seem like anything they want them to. But only magas are dumb enough to blindly accept them as fact.
Zelensky is tin horn wannabe dictator that barked up the wrong tree today. He's dealing with a real leader now. FAFO!!!
This lays it out well what occurred this week.
I haven’t seen the entire meeting in the Oval Office today between Trump, Vance and Zelensky.
I’ve only seen part of it and I’ve seen a little of the leftwing media freak out over how it went.
This is really a great thing.
The setup:
Macron comes to the White House to try and convince Trump to support Ukraine with more money and troops on the ground as part of the peace deal.
The UK Prime Minister came yesterday to do the same thing.
Trump gave them both the same answer:
No.
No more money.
No US troops.
Do you want to know why Zelensky acted the way he did in the Oval Office?
France and the UK told Zelensky before his meeting with Trump, that the US wasn’t going to do anything more for Ukraine and in fact, the US expects repayment for what they have given Ukraine.
That made Zelensky angry.
That’s why he overreacted.
Zelensky already knows, that without US support, there is no NATO support.
And Europe can’t begin to replace the US money or weapons.
They also can’t place a large fighting force in Ukraine without US help.
So if there is no NATO support, then there is no European support.
Zelensky has suddenly come to realize that the GAME is over.
And this two bit actor can’t handle that truth.
But the leftwing media and the democrats are going “all in” on blaming Trump and defending Zelensky.
Just the latest huge mistake.
The democrats and the media are now “out on a limb.”
They are FORCED to defend a grifter who cares more about money than the hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians that he’s supposed to represent.
This is called “money flow disruption.”
The most corrupt country in the world is no longer the world’s biggest money laundromat.
Zelensky is in a real panic because without money, he can’t pay his generals or his troops.
The odds of a coup to overthrow Zelensky, just massively increased.
And in another few days or a week, the democrats are going to see the new poll numbers that show defending Zelensky and bashing Trump for trying to bring a war to an end, is really not popular with the American people.
The American people were already tired of sending money out of their pockets to Ukraine.
And now, after Zelensky shows how ungrateful he is for all the taxpayers money he’s received, the days of even debating sending Ukraine money is over.
And that’s a great thing.
Zelensky isn’t smart enough to realize, that this stunt in the Oval Office actually isolated him.
Trump already negotiated a peace deal with Putin without input from Zelensky or Europe.
Why was that so important?
That has FORCED Europe to make a choice.
Choose a side.
Choose between the US or Ukraine.
Europe is going to choose the US and I think they already have.
That’s why Zelensky is so angry.
Europe just hung him out to dry.
The puppet just had all his strings cut.
He didn’t expect that at all.
I haven’t seen the entire meeting in the Oval Office today between Trump, Vance and Zelensky.
I’ve only seen part of it and I’ve seen a little of the leftwing media freak out over how it went.
This is really a great thing.
The setup:
Macron comes to the White House to try and convince Trump to support Ukraine with more money and troops on the ground as part of the peace deal.
The UK Prime Minister came yesterday to do the same thing.
Trump gave them both the same answer:
No.
No more money.
No US troops.
Do you want to know why Zelensky acted the way he did in the Oval Office?
France and the UK told Zelensky before his meeting with Trump, that the US wasn’t going to do anything more for Ukraine and in fact, the US expects repayment for what they have given Ukraine.
That made Zelensky angry.
That’s why he overreacted.
Zelensky already knows, that without US support, there is no NATO support.
And Europe can’t begin to replace the US money or weapons.
They also can’t place a large fighting force in Ukraine without US help.
So if there is no NATO support, then there is no European support.
Zelensky has suddenly come to realize that the GAME is over.
And this two bit actor can’t handle that truth.
But the leftwing media and the democrats are going “all in” on blaming Trump and defending Zelensky.
Just the latest huge mistake.
The democrats and the media are now “out on a limb.”
They are FORCED to defend a grifter who cares more about money than the hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians that he’s supposed to represent.
This is called “money flow disruption.”
The most corrupt country in the world is no longer the world’s biggest money laundromat.
Zelensky is in a real panic because without money, he can’t pay his generals or his troops.
The odds of a coup to overthrow Zelensky, just massively increased.
And in another few days or a week, the democrats are going to see the new poll numbers that show defending Zelensky and bashing Trump for trying to bring a war to an end, is really not popular with the American people.
The American people were already tired of sending money out of their pockets to Ukraine.
And now, after Zelensky shows how ungrateful he is for all the taxpayers money he’s received, the days of even debating sending Ukraine money is over.
And that’s a great thing.
Zelensky isn’t smart enough to realize, that this stunt in the Oval Office actually isolated him.
Trump already negotiated a peace deal with Putin without input from Zelensky or Europe.
Why was that so important?
That has FORCED Europe to make a choice.
Choose a side.
Choose between the US or Ukraine.
Europe is going to choose the US and I think they already have.
That’s why Zelensky is so angry.
Europe just hung him out to dry.
The puppet just had all his strings cut.
He didn’t expect that at all.
"If it doesn’t work out, Trump doesn't really care because there's no other way to explain all of the concessions that he has already given to Putin even before any negotiation.
So that suggests to me that, in fact, he actually is not trying to negotiate a deal. He's trying to nurture a relationship with Vladimir Putin."
Zelensky is a dead man walking.
He has two options:
A) Surrender, agree to ceasefire, Trump finds out where the money went in Ukraine, and he’s a dead man.
B) Don’t surrender, Trump shuts off all support, Putin takes all of Ukraine, and he’s a dead man.
Pick your poison.
At least option A will spare the lives of many innocent Ukrainian and Russian soldiers, but no matter how you slice it, there is no scenario where Zelensky survives this.
Zelensky just dug his own grave in front of the entire world.
I understand today was exciting, but the reality of this situation is actually extremely sad and disturbing.
Zelensky is a coked-up military dictator that is holding the Ukrainian People hostage, and is trying to instigate global war.
He’s about to sacrifice countless more lives due to his insanity and disassociation from reality. He has no avenue for victory. He needs to concede, and accept Trump’s proposal for peace.
The Ukrainian People have been butchered by a corrupt regime that does not serve them. Zelensky is a puppet of the Deep State. He has no loyalty to the Ukrainian People. He serves only himself, and his handlers.
The Ukrainian People have been sent to the slaughter, and Zelensky doesn’t plan on stopping any time soon.
Evil is an understatement.
1. One thing that is important to remember in this Zelenskyy mess, the USA is paying for all Ukraine govt functions, payroll, pensions, subsidies, retirement, welfare, the works.
We are not only paying them with bombs, drones and satellite targeting, we are funding all of their missing tax income.
The problem a large number of Senators and Congressmen are facing ATM is tied to the claim by one of their own that a bunch of 'em may well have secretly secured Ukrainian passports during the war.
Weird, right?
If true, it's sus AF.
And for a few reasons.
One being hush-hush bank accts.
Do the docs use different names?
I'm getting a 'money ain't gonna launder itself' type of feeling.
I would like to make a point about the Ukraine/Russia War.
I believe it is the most important point. Here it is:
Right now, as you are reading this, a Ukrainian or Russian teen was in all likelihood killed in action.
Why?
For what?
Ukraine cannot win this war. What Zelenskyy wants is for the US and/or NATO to literally start fighting the Russians, and that's not going to happen because nobody wants nuclear Armageddon and the end of humanity (except possibly Zelenskyy).
So what is the ONLY option? Answer: mark the boundaries where they are right now and stop fighting.
Trump knows this. Vance knows this. Anyone with a brain who understands war knows this.
THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION.
And anybody who disagrees with what I just said is either a bloodthirsty warmonger, a lobotomite midwit, or both.
Face reality people.
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