Ukraine War
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Just hours before a massive Ukrainian operation targeting Russian strategic bombers deep inside Russia, Senator Lindsey Graham and his colleague Sen. Richard Blumenthal were in Kiev again urging Ukraine to keep fighting.
As President Trump has repeatedly stated that his policy is to end that war, why is a US Senator undermining official US foreign policy...and how involved was he (and other neocons in the Administration) in the Sunday attacks?
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So, it appears Zelenskyy gave the go ahead to attack parked Russian nuclear capable bombers without informing @realDonaldTrump (if true that our President was not consulted nor informed, this isn’t simply a breach of protocol. It’s a geopolitical insult and a warning sign. If Ukraine is willing to conduct strikes with strategic consequences without notifying the White House, we are no longer allies with coordination issues—we are co-belligerents flying blind).
Also given Senator “warmonger” Lindsey Graham’s and Senator “Da Nang Dick” Blumenthal’s recent visit, this attack could appear as though it was sanctioned. I pray the Russians have better intelligence than that. IMHO, these two don’t have the sense or common sense to pull something like this off (there will have to be denials though).
FYI, Those bombers that were hit HAVE to be out in full view due to nuclear treaty obligations. Zelenskyy took advantage of that. For instance, they appear to have hidden the drones in containers and were driven on trucks near the airbase. Smart use of deception (see photos below).
However, imagine any one of our big bomber bases having the exact same thing done to them. Very costly U.S. Strategic Bombers can be taken out in the same way by anyone with access to inexpensive drones, delivery trucks, explosives, and a bit of technical knowledge (not good and new tactics will now have to be developed).
People, and especially world leaders, need to realize the global implications to such an operation as Ukraine just pulled off.
Russia will respond. Action, reaction, counteraction. Those are the shifting tides of warfare.
This wasn’t a bold action, it was brash. Ukraine’s short-term win could be the world’s long-term loss.
Despite what is a complete mess right now in Europe, there are still solutions to achieving peace. They are narrowing however and time, as it often does, becomes an enemy instead of a useful friend.
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Ukraine’s drone attack was more a media/political stunt than a military operation.
They damaged aircraft that have to be out in the open for nuclear treaty purposes.
And Western MSM all sprung into action to report on this attack with glee, as if this was some sort of massive victory, while ignoring Russia pounding the shit out of Ukraine and taking ground for years, because it doesn’t fit their narrative. All they wanted was headlines saying that Putin and Russia are vulnerable/weakened, as seen below.
This attack did not limit Russia’s capabilities whatsoever. All Ukraine did was take advantage of Russia’s adherence to nuclear treaties that require their nuclear bombers to be out in the open. Besides, this war is mostly drone and land-based missile. If Putin is going to drop nukes on Ukraine, it’s going to be from their hypersonic IRBM land-based Oreshnik, which Putin has already used in battle without nuclear payloads attached, just to prove to NATO that they cannot intercept it.
Ukraine, and their NATO handlers, accomplished nothing with this attack, other than headlines. All they did was prove they are not interested in surrender or peace. They want full-scale WW3, and are willing to risk all of our lives to maintain their power and cover up the unfathomable corruption in Ukraine.
It’s very simple.
Zelensky, and his NATO handlers, have NEVER had any intention of surrendering. Their objective is to provoke Putin into using nukes or excessive force, so they can drag in the US MIL, via NATO alliance, to fight Russia directly for them.
They want WW3. They want to destroy Russia by any means necessary, because Putin refuses to bow to the Deep State and their quest for global hegemony.
The Deep State want to dethrone Putin and take over Russia, and they know they need the US MIL in order to pull it off. This is why they are pushing so hard for Ukraine to be a NATO member and why they are trying to provoke Putin. They are trying to force the US MIL to intervene directly and defeat Putin.
Thats what the Deep State want. That’s what Ukraine has been about, going back to at least 2014, and probably decades before that. This has always been their ultimate objective with Ukraine. WW3 and the destruction of Russia.
Talks between Russia and Ukraine took place in Istanbul today.
Russia’s demands have not changed, they want Ukraine to stay out of NATO, demilitarization, denazification, the 4 Eastern Oblasts, and full end to the conflict.
Ukraine continue to refuse this proposal. They want a temporary 30 day ceasefire to resupply, NATO membership (which would immediately initiate full-scale WW3), and they want all of their land back that Russia occupy.
In other words, Ukraine are still in denial that they have lost the war, negotiations are going nowhere, and Putin is going to continue to bludgeon them and bleed them of their resources, while destroying all NATO equipment that gets sent to Ukraine.
Despite whatever the media say, Russia have been in dominant position this entire time, and Ukraine have zero leverage whatsoever. Putin does not have to make any concessions. If Ukraine do not want to capitulate, Putin will just keep going until Ukraine cannot fight anymore, and then he will take whatever he wants. Simple as that.
They took a shot at the Kerch bridge as well with a big underwater bomb. Damaged it but didn't knock down a span.
Do you truly not realize that you are literally spreading Russian Propaganda for them?
The weirdest part is that he wants Putin to win. How does an American's brain become so scrambled?
It's a US based X account you child. If you can't handle differing opinions from yours then block me.
And how do you know where that bot is located? It's not like you carefully vet your sources 😅
No Americans have lost their lives in Ukraine and Russia's ability to wage war has been significantly depleted. Don't pretend that the money is an issue if you are pro-BBB and we now have access to their rare earth minerals. We are doing the right thing, period.
Pro bbb? We will not have access to any minerals if Russia takes all of Ukraine.
Big Beautiful Bill. So we should urge Ukraine to capitulate and not require Russia to make any concessions after the all the war crimes they've committed?
Answer this - would you welcome and applaud Ukraine if they did win the war?
That's an appalling stance for an American.
I think you should spend less time posting and more time brushing up on your history…. Then let us know if letting an autocratic regime led by an evil dictator with no regard for human life go completely unchecked is in the US’ best interest.
Saying “I don’t care who wins” is dangerously ignorant - the nations and stakes involved do not permit us to be indifferent. How do you not understand this?
I do not care who wins once gain. I am not brainwashed in the msm écho chamber of the good vs bad angle présent here. I want US best interests to be served.
So you do want Ukraine to win? There is no scenario in which Russia winning would be a good thing for us or the world.
Oh who am I kidding - everything in your world is framed by what it means for Trump so in your mind he likes Putin better - that's the whole ball of wax.
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Darren Beattie dismantled a key agency fighting Russian propaganda. There’s a reason why.
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I do not believe that the recent escalation against Russia's strategic bomber fleet was authorized by or coordinated with President Trump. Rather, it is my view that the Deep State is now acting outside of the control of the elected leadership of our nation. I believe that these persons inside (some outside) our Deep State are engaged in a deliberate effort to provoke Russia into a major confrontation with the West, including the United States. The time is now to take aggressive action against those who abuse their authority as government employees to manipulate the elected leadership of our nation.
I’ll have much more to say very soon. Intelligence doesn’t sleep, it develops.
Claiming NATO wants WW3 is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard in quite awhile. No nation’s interests are in a world war, especially with a nuclear armed foe. It’s illogical.
You separately quote Michael Flynn - are you aware of his pro-Russia ties and views? He’s arguably the Benedict Arnold of our generation, or at a minimum a sellout.
C’mon man - why don’t you hold yourself to a higher intellectual standard? You stayed up till 4a posting this nonsense - I know you won’t seek help, but why don’t you at least step away from the MAGAverse to educate yourself on even the basics of critical thinking?
I'm up all night every night. Good for you and your opinion that I do not share.
This just speaks to how little trust Ukraine has that Trump wouldn't tip off Russia beforehand. After all, we aren't talking about a president who cares about doing the right thing.
Dude, our sociopathic CIC stopped sharing military intelligence with Ukraine because their president didn't sufficiently kiss the ring in front of the cameras. That should be impeachable.
Do you know the definition of ignorant? How is that ignorant but you posting that NATO wants WW3 to occur? Please explain how WW3 benefits any single country that’s a member of NATO. Just one.
I have my opinions that I share. I strongly believe I am correct and you are not.
Why post if you are not going to articulate your position?
You took the time to post a twitter thread that NATO wants to start WW3 - how does that make any sense? It’s as simple of a question as it gets. I’m starting to think you might be a pre-teen.
Donald J. Trump Truth Social 06.04.25 01:56 PM EST
I just finished speaking, by telephone, with President Vladimir Putin, of Russia. The call lasted approximately one hour and 15 minutes. We discussed the attack on Russia’s docked airplanes, by Ukraine, and also various other attacks that have been taking place by both sides. It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate Peace. President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields. We also discussed Iran, and the fact that time is running out on Iran’s decision pertaining to nuclear weapons, which must be made quickly! I stated to President Putin that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and, on this, I believe that we were in agreement. President Putin suggested that he will participate in the discussions with Iran and that he could, perhaps, be helpful in getting this brought to a rapid conclusion. It is my opinion that Iran has been slowwalking their decision on this very important matter, and we will need a definitive answer in a very short period of time!
I articulate all the time. You apparently are too dense to discern and a big mouth to boot.
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