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Updated projections from Dr. Birx and Fauci

LOL...I will bet you any amount of money that we do not even hit 1 million deaths. Not even close in fact, but in terms of a bet, I'm setting the O/U at 1 million and taking the under.

If you're not a gullible, fear mongering idiot, name your price and I'll setup the escrow account.
I’m including all the cancer patients, heart related diseases, strokes, gun shot wounds, and any other icu related person who isn’t getting treated in my count though.
 
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I’m including all the cancer patients, heart related diseases, strokes, gun shot wounds, and any other icu related person who isn’t getting treated in my count though.
I'll allow it, but I'm deducting all of the deaths that will be directly attributable to the economic downturn we will experience. Deal?
 
I haven’t posted in a while. Fauci just published an Opinion in the NEJM on the 26th saying that initial predictions of 1.7-2.2 million were wrong. He said because most cases are a symptomatic and not being tested the CFR (death rate) is likely as low as .1% like that of a strong flu. Those are his words not mine. Not many running with that.

He and Birx seemed to back track this week with the 100,000 to 200,000 prediction.

We were never going to have 1.7 million deaths. I said this two weeks ago and got roasted on here.

I don’t think we will have 100,000.

However, this thing is highly contagious and has the ability to spread fast enough to over run hospitals especially in urban areas with mass transit and densely populated high rise apartments. Combine it with pre existing health conditions and hospitals can get over run.

If they said 50,000 deaths this weekend conservatives would be pissed and the country quits obeying orders. They go high to keep people scare enough to obey until we can bolster the infrastructure in cities, keep working in testing, treatments and a vaccine.

By May and June this thing slows down.

By years end 50,000 to 60,000.
 
I haven’t posted in a while. Fauci just published an Opinion in the NEJM on the 26th saying that initial predictions of 1.7-2.2 million were wrong. He said because most cases are a symptomatic and not being tested the CFR (death rate) is likely as low as .1% like that of a strong flu. Those are his words not mine. Not many running with that.

He and Birx seemed to back track this week with the 100,000 to 200,000 prediction.

We were never going to have 1.7 million deaths. I said this two weeks ago and got roasted on here.

I don’t think we will have 100,000.

However, this thing is highly contagious and has the ability to spread fast enough to over run hospitals especially in urban areas with mass transit and densely populated high rise apartments. Combine it with pre existing health conditions and hospitals can get over run.

If they said 50,000 deaths this weekend conservatives would be pissed and the country quits obeying orders. They go high to keep people scare enough to obey until we can bolster the infrastructure in cities, keep working in testing, treatments and a vaccine.

By May and June this thing slows down.

By years end 50,000 to 60,000.
Sure. Totally possible if we actually stay in homes. If we open everything back up for business tomorrow the hospitals would be overrun
 
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I’m including all the cancer patients, heart related diseases, strokes, gun shot wounds, and any other icu related person who isn’t getting treated in my count though.

Why would you include that in your count. That makes zero sense.
 
If the fatality rate ever approaches the 100,000 count then that tells you just how skewed the age of the American population is toward 60 plus.
I was told there are people who are not 60 who are in hospitals in SC for this. It’s not just 60+, I was trying to say that I was optimistic that projection numbers are starting to lessen between a little over a month ago and now
 
I certainly don't blame all this on Trump. And as everyone on here knows, I despise the man. He's done some good things with shutting down travel with both China and Europe early. AND as much as the CDC and NIH were screaming warnings since early January, they still screwed the pooch with rolling out bad tests initially... heads need to roll for that. Trump has mostly listened to the experts on this, which is a massive improvement, where he usually just goes with his gut. Asking him to be clear and consistent in his message and to stop lying and making shiit up when he's add libing is probably just too much to ask.

That being said, the US is doing the crappiest job of just about anyone in handling this situation and we are the richest country in the would. That's because we don't have a leader or a uniter as President. We have a divider... someone who is quick to attack and blame others and very very slow to accept any blame himself. That's not who we need right now, but it's who we have.

When there's been a global crisis in the last 70 years.. who has repeatedly stepped up to the plate with the aid and materials to help others that couldn't help themselves? The US, that's who. EVERY. FREAKING. TIME. Now who's doing it? FREAKING CHINA. The world is starting to NOT look to the US for leadership. Hell, when our President goes abroad he's openly mocked and laughed at by other leaders... anyone ever seen a baby George W or Obama balloon? It's really sad how we've fallen apart in the last 3 or 4 years. And that IS on Trump. He's more apt to act like a middle schooler than a leader.

I believe China has been exposed as a fraud during this....false numbers and faulty equipment sent to the rest of the world. Quite a growing list of countries telling them "no thanks "
 
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Sobering to say the least. Stay safe everyone.

Link: https://news.yahoo.com/dr-birx-predicts-200-000-115800421.html
projections the Government is using. Data on the graphs below suggest much lower numbers than even in this link here. That’s because the projections don’t show the trends below at all in their data.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

most up to date stats
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

two very positive 10+ day trends in these graphs:

Graph 1 is a clear down turn over the last tens days of new cases in the USA. The graph is clearly curling downward. This is a clear sign exponential growth is coming to an end in the USA
435-DECD7-8-EBF-4967-9-E5-E-421-B97-D8-CE12.jpg

Graph 2 is a clear sign that exponential growth has declined in rest of the world even when you remove China from the data. This has happened over the last 40 days and it should drop below 1.0 permanently within a week if the trend continues. That will be the end of exponential growth.

88-B29232-42-E8-4-F59-81-D1-B00-AD7-CAF252.jpg
 
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I'll allow it, but I'm deducting all of the deaths that will be directly attributable to the economic downturn we will experience. Deal?
Nah because the economy is going to crash because of this. It’s a necessary evil. I’m more worried about the economy honestly, but you can’t just send the fats and old people of the country to the guillotine.
 
projections the Government is using. Data on the graphs below suggest much lower numbers than even in this link here. That’s because the projections don’t show the trends below at all in their data.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

most up to date stats
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

two very positive 10+ day trends in these graphs:

Graph 1 is a clear down turn over the last tens days of new cases in the USA. The graph is clearly curling downward. This is a clear sign exponential growth is coming to an end in the USA
435-DECD7-8-EBF-4967-9-E5-E-421-B97-D8-CE12.jpg

Graph 2 is a clear sign that exponential growth has declined in rest of the world even when you remove China from the data. This has happened over the last 40 days and it should drop below 1.0 permanently within a week if the trend continues. That will be the end of exponential growth.

88-B29232-42-E8-4-F59-81-D1-B00-AD7-CAF252.jpg
You realize we have to continue living like this or it just ramps right back up right? This is going to come in waves.
 
I haven’t posted in a while. Fauci just published an Opinion in the NEJM on the 26th saying that initial predictions of 1.7-2.2 million were wrong. He said because most cases are a symptomatic and not being tested the CFR (death rate) is likely as low as .1% like that of a strong flu. Those are his words not mine. Not many running with that.

He and Birx seemed to back track this week with the 100,000 to 200,000 prediction.

We were never going to have 1.7 million deaths. I said this two weeks ago and got roasted on here.

I don’t think we will have 100,000.

However, this thing is highly contagious and has the ability to spread fast enough to over run hospitals especially in urban areas with mass transit and densely populated high rise apartments. Combine it with pre existing health conditions and hospitals can get over run.

If they said 50,000 deaths this weekend conservatives would be pissed and the country quits obeying orders. They go high to keep people scare enough to obey until we can bolster the infrastructure in cities, keep working in testing, treatments and a vaccine.

By May and June this thing slows down.

By years end 50,000 to 60,000.
Yup This is all being based on lies. 10 & 40 + days of stats that show exponential growth ending are being ignored. See graphs

projections the Government is using don’t take these trends into account
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

most up to date stats and to see the graphs used below
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

two very positive 10+ day trends in these graphs:

Graph 1 is a clear down turn over the last tens days of new cases in the USA. The graph is clearly curling downward. This is a clear sign exponential growth is coming to an end in the USA
435-DECD7-8-EBF-4967-9-E5-E-421-B97-D8-CE12.jpg

Graph 2 is a clear sign that exponential growth has declined in rest of the world even when you remove China from the data. This has happened over the last 40 days and it should drop below 1.0 permanently within a week if the trend continues. That will be the end of exponential growth.

88-B29232-42-E8-4-F59-81-D1-B00-AD7-CAF252.jpg

Looks like Trump has learned to not waste a good crisis from the Democrats. Smart man.
 
You realize we have to continue living like this or it just ramps right back up right? This is going to come in waves.
Did I say stop social distancing, washing your hands and not touching your face? Also how do we know how many have already recovered from it? When they are only testing very sick people. We may already be approaching herd immunity and not even realize it. That alone could be the main reason for the improvements. These trends started well before all the stupid freak out laws from the last week. They have been changing at a very consistent rate also. So the new shit freak out laws haven’t had any effect yet.
 
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Did I say stop social distancing, washing your hands and not touching your face? Also how do we know how many have already recovered from it? When they are only testing very sick people. We may already be approaching herd immunity and not even realize it. That alone could be the main reason for the improvements. These trends started well before all the stupid freak out laws from the last week. They have been changing at a very consistent rate also. So the new shit freak out laws haven’t had any effect yet.
Maybe so. I hope you're right.
 
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projections the Government is using. Data on the graphs below suggest much lower numbers than even in this link here. That’s because the projections don’t show the trends below at all in their data.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

most up to date stats
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

two very positive 10+ day trends in these graphs:

Graph 1 is a clear down turn over the last tens days of new cases in the USA. The graph is clearly curling downward. This is a clear sign exponential growth is coming to an end in the USA
435-DECD7-8-EBF-4967-9-E5-E-421-B97-D8-CE12.jpg

Graph 2 is a clear sign that exponential growth has declined in rest of the world even when you remove China from the data. This has happened over the last 40 days and it should drop below 1.0 permanently within a week if the trend continues. That will be the end of exponential growth.

88-B29232-42-E8-4-F59-81-D1-B00-AD7-CAF252.jpg
CNN’s worst nightmare. They need and would celebrate a million deaths. Anything to help Biden.
 
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Yup This is all being based on lies. 10 & 40 + days of stats that show exponential growth ending are being ignored. See graphs

projections the Government is using don’t take these trends into account
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

most up to date stats and to see the graphs used below
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

two very positive 10+ day trends in these graphs:

Graph 1 is a clear down turn over the last tens days of new cases in the USA. The graph is clearly curling downward. This is a clear sign exponential growth is coming to an end in the USA
435-DECD7-8-EBF-4967-9-E5-E-421-B97-D8-CE12.jpg

Graph 2 is a clear sign that exponential growth has declined in rest of the world even when you remove China from the data. This has happened over the last 40 days and it should drop below 1.0 permanently within a week if the trend continues. That will be the end of exponential growth.

88-B29232-42-E8-4-F59-81-D1-B00-AD7-CAF252.jpg

Looks like Trump has learned to not waste a good crisis from the Democrats. Smart man.
This is because we simply aren’t testing unless the case is severe. Can’t get a positive if we don’t test. I know someone in Atlanta, Miami, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio that are all showing symptoms. They’ve all been told to self quarantine for two weeks and won’t be administered the test.

hopefully this means most of the herd will be immune for wave 2.
 
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This is because we simply aren’t testing unless the case is severe. Can’t get a positive if we don’t test. I know someone in Atlanta, Miami, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio that are all showing symptoms. They’ve all been told to self quarantine for two weeks and won’t be administered the test.

hopefully this means most of the herd will be immune for wave 2.
The UK is about to be able to use 3.5 million test for Covid-19 antibodies that give results in less than fifteen minutes. It will be interesting to see how many have already had it and recovered.

All these positives will be added to new cases from last month because they are all recognized as recovered. Because they are recovered ( Recovery takes about 2-4 weeks), that’s why they have the antibodies. Therefore making the reduction in new cases even LARGER.

Also new death rates are declining and they are not affected by testing. So they are the most accurate stat right now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...navirus-test-covid-19-home-antibody-kits/amp/

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&sxsrf=ALeKk01DJOqrb32EOEIMPqWsHGQ9j3JSeQ:1585511922251&ei=8v2AXu_ZDu2m_QbOtKa4BQ&q=uk+coronavirus+3.5+million+test&oq=uk+coronavirus+3.5+million+test&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBQghEKABOgQIIxAnOgcIABCDARBDOgQIABBDOgIIADoFCAAQgwE6BQghEKsCUJ5CWISWAWDxngFoAHAAeACAAekBiAGWGJIBBjIuMTcuM5gBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
 
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I believe China has been exposed as a fraud during this....false numbers and faulty equipment sent to the rest of the world. Quite a growing list of countries telling them "no thanks "
And to think we sold our soul to those lying Communist - we owe them Billions, if not Trillions now. Yes, they have single handily wrecked our Country and Economy for the next 1-2 years at minimum.

Time to pull out whatever we can and don't care how painful it is. I cringe when I listen to what Trump has resigned in the Trade deal with those Losers. It's time we make the deals and it's not a 50%-50% deal either, more like 80%-20% in our favor.

If the Communist Ba$tards don't like it, then have them PAY us the $8T we had to go in debt because of them. Call it even if you want.

Time to play hard ball with them and don't back down. We will have this same issue 4 years down the road with the next Pandemic, mark it down.
 
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This is because we simply aren’t testing unless the case is severe. Can’t get a positive if we don’t test. I know someone in Atlanta, Miami, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio that are all showing symptoms. They’ve all been told to self quarantine for two weeks and won’t be administered the test.
The UK is about to be able to use 3.5 million test for Covid-19 antibodies that give results in less than fifteen minutes. It will be interesting to see how many have already had it and recovered.

All these positives will be added to new cases from last month because they are all recognized as recovered. Because they are recovered ( Recovery takes about 2-4 weeks), that’s why they have the antibodies. Therefore making the reduction in new cases even LARGER.

Also new death rates are declining and they are not affected by testing. So they are the most accurate stat right now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...navirus-test-covid-19-home-antibody-kits/amp/

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&sxsrf=ALeKk01DJOqrb32EOEIMPqWsHGQ9j3JSeQ:1585511922251&ei=8v2AXu_ZDu2m_QbOtKa4BQ&q=uk+coronavirus+3.5+million+test&oq=uk+coronavirus+3.5+million+test&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBQghEKABOgQIIxAnOgcIABCDARBDOgQIABBDOgIIADoFCAAQgwE6BQghEKsCUJ5CWISWAWDxngFoAHAAeACAAekBiAGWGJIBBjIuMTcuM5gBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
I didn't want to say it as a negative. I don't think we need to test the people who have a mild cough.

All of that is encouraging that hopefully the worst is behind us.
 
And to think we sold our soul to those lying Communist - we owe them Billions, if not Trillions now. Yes, they have single handily wrecked our Country and Economy for the next 1-2 years at minimum.

Time to pull out whatever we can and don't care how painful it is. I cringe when I listen to what Trump has resigned in the Trade deal with those Losers. It's time we make the deals and it's not a 50%-50% deal either, more like 80%-20% in our favor.

If the Communist Ba$tards don't like it, then have them PAY us the $8T we had to go in debt because of them. Call it even if you want.

Time to play hard ball with them and don't back down. We will have this same issue 4 years down the road with the next Pandemic, mark it down.
Trumps the first POTUS, to get in there face. Barry, Bill, and Bush were soft. I say we move our factories to India and don’t pay back the Chinese for anything we owe.
 
A friend of mine was going to drive his family from ATL to their beach house in Amelia Island to hunker down there. Someone there called him and told him not to come. They just shut down the beaches to set up cold tents to house the deceased. This sh*t is crazy.

@Cocks are Number 1 will say this is just the flu in 5, 4, 3, 2.....

They setup cold tents to house the deceased in Amelia island?
 
They setup cold tents to house the deceased in Amelia island?

not sure if it has happened yet, JSU what another homeowner down there told her. She said they were very strictly enforcing beach access, even for beachside residents.
 
I believe China has been exposed as a fraud during this....false numbers and faulty equipment sent to the rest of the world. Quite a growing list of countries telling them "no thanks "

There's no question about it... China is full of shiit. My point is/was that THEY are the ones offering the aid and flying in "experts" to help other countries. NOT us.
 
Trumps the first POTUS, to get in there face. Barry, Bill, and Bush were soft. I say we move our factories to India and don’t pay back the Chinese for anything we owe.

I agree with this 100%. Trump has done good work with China. He KNOWS damn well that they are no friends of ours and are an enemy country. I wish he would see Russia in the same light. Here's a hint to all of us on friendly vs. enemy countries. No matter who says what, Your friends don't point nuclear weapons at you.
 
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Wrong, our form of government is great for building our financial structure and scientific advancements. Not so great when trying to beat a pandemic. Just because we have the science and the money DOES NOT help us keep 350,000,000 people inside at their homes.

And im not sure what you are trying to say he SHOULD have done is even remotely possible.

Yes, he is an idiot sometimes on twitter and on the air. He has his strengths (building a healthy economy) and he has weaknesses (his speeches are sometimes dog crap)

Something like this falls on DECADES of blame. We should have been preparing for this 10 years ago. We knew it would come. This wont be the last one to ever hit us either

I have never agreed with you more.
 
There's no question about it... China is full of shiit. My point is/was that THEY are the ones offering the aid and flying in "experts" to help other countries. NOT us.

I know. My point is more and more countries are calling out their BS
 
Lol

You were certain this was the case. Nice job.

no dipshit. I said they closed down the beaches and were going to use the beaches for cold tents. Do I know that there are cold tents there with bodies right now? No. I would imagine the Jax area is weeks away from its peak in cases / deaths.

Tread lightly, the last time you called my sister a liar I produced proof and made you look like more of a fool than you normally do.
 
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