Vaccines for children

[fatpiggy]

I don't say 0% chance about much of anything, but no legitimate studies have shown a link, and there are much more obvious and real reasons why there has been an increase.

Why are you so sure that Vaccines are causing autism against all proof?

I don't have any idea if vaccines cause autism. I am refrencing our previous conversations where you have ruled out all possibilites of any connection. I stated that was stupid, but you were insistent that it is dumb to study any relationship because it's already been conlcuded that their is no relationship.

So, when presented with the evidence that RFK jr provided, I'm curious if you are STILL as adamant as you were before about not investigating the relationship. Not trying to gotcha, just seeing if you have changed at all.

 

[fatpiggy]

Let me go one step further. Let's imagine, against all actual proof, that autism is caused by vaccines. What percentage would be acceptable to eliminate measles,polio, etc?

1%? 5%?

There is no medication that doesn't have side effects. We accept those risks because that small amount is worth it to eliminate/ mitigate the risk to the populous.

Why are vaccines so bad to you? Why not Tylenol? Tylenol kills people if used incorrectly or if people have a reaction.

These are great questions, the kind of questions that should be asked.

Stating, emphatically, that the relationship should not be studied because the "science" is already concluded, and in the face of new evidence, is silly to me. That is the only claim i have ever made. But there you go trying to paint me (and RFK) as anti-vaccine. That is just false and shows that you are trolling or not debating in good faith.

 

[yoshi121374]

I don't have any idea if vaccines cause autism. I am refrencing our previous conversations where you have ruled out all possibilites of any connection. I stated that was stupid, but you were insistent that it is dumb to study any relationship because it's already been conlcuded that their is no relationship.

So, when presented with the evidence that RFK jr provided, I'm curious if you are STILL as adamant as you were before about not investigating the relationship. Not trying to gotcha, just seeing if you have changed at all.

No. My opinion hasn't changed at all, and certainly not due to anything from RFK Jr.

For someone who claims to not have an idea, you sure like to share ridiculous tweets and trying to give a hard time to people who are actually well educated about Autism.

The real question is, why do you want so badly to believe vaccines cause autism?

 

[yoshi121374]

These are great questions, the kind of questions that should be asked.

Stating, emphatically, that the relationship should not be studied because the "science" is already concluded, and in the face of new evidence, is silly to me. That is the only claim i have ever made. But there you go trying to paint me (and RFK) as anti-vaccine. That is just false and shows that you are trolling or not debating in good faith.

There isn't new information. The stuff about the Amish has been thoroughly debunked.

RFK Jr. Is certainly anti-vaccine.

 

[fatpiggy]

No. My opinion hasn't changed at all, and certainly not due to anything from RFK Jr.

For someone who claims to not have an idea, you sure like to share ridiculous tweets and trying to give a hard time to people who are actually well educated about Autism.

The real question is, why do you want so badly to believe vaccines cause autism?

You don't know my relationship with Autism, but it hit's close to home for me. I have plenty of education on the subject and likely just as much or more than you.

I don't want there to be a relationship at all. I just want the facts to come out. And i think it's silly to exclude vaccines as a cause until the actual cause is determined. That is the only position i have ever taken, no matter what else you try to pigeon hole me into.

I post things that i think are interesting and for discussion. Nothing i post is an endorsement unless i specifically state as much.

Since there is no known cause of autism, i find it interesting how certain people refuse to include it under the umbrella of possible causes. I find that interesting and so, yes, i will post things on the topic.

 

[yoshi121374]

You don't know my relationship with Autism, but it hit's close to home for me. I have plenty of education on the subject and likely just as much or more than you.

I don't want there to be a relationship at all. I just want the facts to come out. And i think it's silly to exclude vaccines as a cause until the actual cause is determined. That is the only position i have ever taken, no matter what else you try to pigeon hole me into.

I post things that i think are interesting and for discussion. Nothing i post is an endorsement unless i specifically state as much.

Since there is no known cause of autism, i find it interesting how certain people refuse to include it under the umbrella of possible causes. I find that interesting and so, yes, i will post things on the topic.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. That's the only proven link between autism and vaccines.

Very few things have only one specific cause, and other than Downs and some other specific chromosomal syndromes, most things have multiple possible causes.

I don't want to see people waste more effort trying to prove a correlation, at the risk and harm of a very important public health measure in vaccines.

Let's focus our energies on the treatment and therapies for Spectrum Disorder patients, and maybe stop with the disinformation campaign that has zero basis in provable fact.

My Grandmother died from pancreatic cancer. She was a Baptist Ministers wife. Therefore Baptist Ministers cause Cancer.

Start tweeting.

 

[fatpiggy]

Correlation doesn't equal causation. That's the only proven link between autism and vaccines.

Very few things have only one specific cause, and other than Downs and some other specific chromosomal syndromes, most things have multiple possible causes.

I don't want to see people waste more effort trying to prove a correlation, at the risk and harm of a very important public health measure in vaccines.

Let's focus our energies on the treatment and therapies for Spectrum Disorder patients, and maybe stop with the disinformation campaign that has zero basis in provable fact.

My Grandmother died from pancreatic cancer. She was a Baptist Ministers wife. Therefore Baptist Ministers cause Cancer.

Start tweeting.

OK - we will refer to you as Mr 0% on this topic. I hope you are correct.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[TigerGrowls]

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, owner of the LA Times and a renowned transplant surgeon, is raising alarms about the fallout from mRNA COVID-19 “vaccines,” linking them to unprecedented deaths and cancers in children.

“For the first time in my career, I’ve seen an 8-year-old, 9-year-old, and 10-year-old with colon cancer.”
“A 13-year-old child died of metastatic pancreatic cancer.”

He has thrown his support behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr., stating Kennedy “knows more about the science than most doctors.”

These revelations demand urgent attention.

 

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RFK on the way.

 

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[scotchtiger]

RFK on the way.

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I’m somewhere in the middle on the vaccine stuff, but the idea that a newborn needs the hep B vaccine within 24 hours is fvcking stupid. Maybe for crack babies, but why in the hell would my kid need that? There’s no way that’s good for them.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

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“This is a post that is meant to be shared with everyone you can think of. Our 17 year old daughter went to the doctor. The doctor recommended the Gardasil vaccine. We needed to check it out first. A pamphlet was brought home and we read it. It was like one of those commercials we all see every day. Soo...upon the return visit we decided we would protect our beautiful daughter from cervical cancer by letting them administer the Gardasil vaccine. The Gardasil vaccine is a series of 3 shots, not just one. !!! After the first shot we didn't recognize a sudden change in her health. After the second shot she was complaining of headaches, a pain in the lower left back of her head, and feeling really tired,her joints ached. We thought it was because she was training really hard for high school sports. We took her back to the family doc who told us it was just stress and suggested Tylenol. She went in for the third shot of Gardasil,made by Merck. The next day Jess was supposed to go to the local college and be there by 10 a.m. She was taking college courses in high school,she was a perfectly healthy kid, a brainiac,and totally knew what she wanted in life and knew how to get there.
We came home from work, Lisa and i work together. It was quiet but the bathroom light was on,we thought she was taking a shower she didn't come out for a few minutes. Finally Lisa knocked on the door and slowly opened it and started screaming. It was the most horrific thing i have ever seen and i was a firefighter for years. It was obvious she had been gone for awhile.
All we really had to go on was the Gardasil vaccine. Within a few days we were contacted by the coroner,he told us she died instantly but could not tell us why. He said it would take 10 weeks to get our answer as to why she was suddenly dead from the forensic team. we finally got the same answer 11 weeks later, we don't know why???????????????????????????????????????????
It didn't matter at that point, we had done our own investigating. Actually the next day we knew in our hearts that the Gardasil killed her. We looked it up on line. at that time in 2008 there were 8 reported deaths. we found out about the ingredients in vaccines. we learned about the way vaccines are approved,we learned the use of the word cancer caused the FDA and the CDC to fast track the approval of Gardasil. Instead of years of proper testing it was approved within months and many, many dollars changed hands. It wasn't long before we started hearing very very similar stories from all over the world. It is what we think to be the GREATEST vaccine hoax in the history of time. And we are right here in the canter of it all. Lisa`, even though she has been torn apart by this, is totally convinced that this ain't over,this is not over by a long shot. Our 17 year old daughter died very suddenly 40 hours after her Gardasil vaccine.”