Vaccines for children
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@yoshi121374 no idea of this was a well designed study or not. But the thesis and conclusion are interesting.
I'm not on X, but it appears that the study was done in 2010. Without diving too deep, doubt it was proven since we haven't heard of this any further.
It seems it’s been a thesis for a long time.
I still think we should continue including that in the list of possible causes of autism.
Until we 100% know what DOES cause it, we should not say something 100% does not cause it.
LMAO
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Vaccine Ingredients in the first 6 years of life your child receives the following:
• 17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
• 5,700 mcg aluminum (neurotoxin)
• Unknown amounts of fetal bovin serum(aborted cow blood)
• 801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)
• 23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcuses)
• 500 mcg human albumin (human blood)
• 760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (excitotoxin that causes obesity & diabetis)
• Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)
• Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)
• Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)
• Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)
• 116 mcg potassium chloride (used in lethal injection to shut down the heart and stop breathing)
• 188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)
• 260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)
• 70 mcg sodium borate (Borax, used for cockroach control)
• 54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)
• Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)
• Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)
• 2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)
• Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)
• 32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)
• 0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)
• Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)
• 35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)
• 5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)
• Other chemical residuals
(From the book, "What The Pharmaceutical Companies Don't Want You To Know About Vaccines" - By Dr Todd M. Elsner)
Dr. Peter McCullough: "What we've learned is this childhood vaccine schedule is not what we thought. And now critically looking at it, we have a situation that, we just learned that the World Council for Health now international body is calling for a complete moratorium on childhood vaccines. First international organization to call for that. Why? Because the vaccines are piling up one after another."
"They're being given in multiple salvos. There are safety events now that we learned. In 1986, the US passed legislation that indemnified the manufacturers of vaccines. In that legislation, it says the vaccines have unavoidable harm. It says that it so what are the harms that we're seeing?
"It's clear when the vaccines are given in multi multiple rounds. There's probably not no single vaccine and no single additive, but it's the sum total of vaccines given at once. We're seeing a strong signal towards, neuropsychiatric disorders, so attention deficit disorder, Asperger's, autism, seizures, allergic diseases, asthma, atopic dermatitis, sudden infant death syndrome."
"And then the converse now. This is the converse, which is papers by Mawson, Hooker, Miller, Thomas, and an older Amish study. All five studies show if children go natural, no vaccines whatsoever, they have the best outcomes. Freedom from these things."
"You know, when I was a kid, the rate of autism was one in ten thousand. Now it's one in thirty six. And there's about 200 published manuscripts showing it's a immune system dysregulation. The immune system dysregulation that, you know, in a reactogenic phase of the vaccine, sometimes with a febrile seizure, the the inflammatory factors go into the brain, probably permanently change it, and the vignettes the mothers tell us that the child was fine up until the time they took a multiple rounds of of vaccines and then they developed autism."
"Those vignettes are almost certainly correct. We can't pin it down to any single vaccine, but I'm telling you, in total, it doesn't look good. This epidemic of autism is a tsunami. And you know how, you know, many, many mothers now recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey showed, you know, about a third of mothers and young fathers going natural."
The anti vax crowd is too far gone to reason with. The nuance it takes to understand vaccines requires thinking. Someone who is anti vax just has an over exaggerated fear response and is more susceptible to fear mongering. Spreading out vaccines does more harm than good. The few occurrences of some formaldehyde and aluminum in vaccines are harmless and temporary.
Spreading out vaccine schedules results in three negatives. 1) Increased risk of infection via more occurrences of injections. 2) Weaker immune response with less antigen-material being exposed to the body at one time (I.e., baby’s immune system really ramps up the immune response and antibody production/storage if it sees 4 different vaccines at one time than if it just sees 1 or 2. This is much better for a kid both immediately and in the long run). 3) More pain for the baby as it has more frequent appointments for injections. More crying, more Tylenol needing to be given to soothe the baby, etc.
Nobody wins in a spread out vaccine schedule, except for the ignorant parents’ conscience.
Repeated, high-volume exposure to formaldehyde and aluminum in the bloodstream is harmful, yes. Vaccines contain small amounts of these as stabilizers. A person’s blood contains trace amounts of formaldehyde and aluminum anyway. So yes, there is a difference in a pregnant woman repeatedly eating fish that are high in mercury affecting a fetus and a small amount of mercury in a vaccine being given to a newborn 4 times at most.
Autism diagnoses are up due to a broader definition of autism (also known as “the spectrum”). People often mistake coincidence for causation in that vaccine schedules often line up with major developmental milestones, or “milestone explosions” where children will reach numerous developmental milestones in a short period. Since the general range for normal vs delayed can be a matter of weeks or months at such a young age, vaccines are easily blamed for “causing” autism when they do not. If vaccines were not given near developmental milestones (which would be nearly impossible considering the amount of milestones kids have in their first 2-3 years of life), you would probably see less skepticism about vaccines and autism.
Lastly, vaccines (the well-established ones. The covid vaccine is an entirely different discussion) have proven time and time again to be extremely safe and effective in reducing child mortality and overall disease burden. Smallpox was damn near eradicated due to vaccines (just off the top of my head, not 100% sure there. I think it was at least deemed eradicated at one point). Polio went from being a national emergency that killed and/or paralyzed thousands upon thousands to being a complete afterthought. Measles and mumps went from being widespread to now the occasional outbreak anytime a specific geographic area gets exposed to too much anti vax rhetoric and suffers an outbreak. Measles used to kill hundreds of kids a year, now even with the occasional stupid outbreak it’s in the single digits. Tetanus used to kill tons of kids, now it’s a complete afterthought.
The problem with anti vaxxers is that their “science” has been disproven more times than anyone can count. Additionally, most anti vaxxers were vaccinated themselves and have benefited from vaccinations. Also, because most of the “vaccinate-able” diseases have been so effectively reduced, the average American has no concept of what going through one of these diseases is like.
Look up pictures of kids with tetanus infection. It is absolutely brutal. I’m talking months in an ICU, bed-ridden, in excruciating pain from full body muscle cramps that can be so strong it pulls a child’s muscle off of the bone. And if a kid gets tetanus but wasn’t vaccinated? No cure. No suppressive treatment. Just a multi month stay in an ICU, intubated, in the worst pain of your life 24/7.
If the predatory idiots who peddle this anti vax nonsense didn’t have so much public influence the world would be a much better place.
Spreading out vaccine schedules results in three negatives. 1) Increased risk of infection via more occurrences of injections. 2) Weaker immune response with less antigen-material being exposed to the body at one time (I.e., baby’s immune system really ramps up the immune response and antibody production/storage if it sees 4 different vaccines at one time than if it just sees 1 or 2. This is much better for a kid both immediately and in the long run). 3) More pain for the baby as it has more frequent appointments for injections. More crying, more Tylenol needing to be given to soothe the baby, etc.
Nobody wins in a spread out vaccine schedule, except for the ignorant parents’ conscience.
Repeated, high-volume exposure to formaldehyde and aluminum in the bloodstream is harmful, yes. Vaccines contain small amounts of these as stabilizers. A person’s blood contains trace amounts of formaldehyde and aluminum anyway. So yes, there is a difference in a pregnant woman repeatedly eating fish that are high in mercury affecting a fetus and a small amount of mercury in a vaccine being given to a newborn 4 times at most.
Autism diagnoses are up due to a broader definition of autism (also known as “the spectrum”). People often mistake coincidence for causation in that vaccine schedules often line up with major developmental milestones, or “milestone explosions” where children will reach numerous developmental milestones in a short period. Since the general range for normal vs delayed can be a matter of weeks or months at such a young age, vaccines are easily blamed for “causing” autism when they do not. If vaccines were not given near developmental milestones (which would be nearly impossible considering the amount of milestones kids have in their first 2-3 years of life), you would probably see less skepticism about vaccines and autism.
Lastly, vaccines (the well-established ones. The covid vaccine is an entirely different discussion) have proven time and time again to be extremely safe and effective in reducing child mortality and overall disease burden. Smallpox was damn near eradicated due to vaccines (just off the top of my head, not 100% sure there. I think it was at least deemed eradicated at one point). Polio went from being a national emergency that killed and/or paralyzed thousands upon thousands to being a complete afterthought. Measles and mumps went from being widespread to now the occasional outbreak anytime a specific geographic area gets exposed to too much anti vax rhetoric and suffers an outbreak. Measles used to kill hundreds of kids a year, now even with the occasional stupid outbreak it’s in the single digits. Tetanus used to kill tons of kids, now it’s a complete afterthought.
The problem with anti vaxxers is that their “science” has been disproven more times than anyone can count. Additionally, most anti vaxxers were vaccinated themselves and have benefited from vaccinations. Also, because most of the “vaccinate-able” diseases have been so effectively reduced, the average American has no concept of what going through one of these diseases is like.
Look up pictures of kids with tetanus infection. It is absolutely brutal. I’m talking months in an ICU, bed-ridden, in excruciating pain from full body muscle cramps that can be so strong it pulls a child’s muscle off of the bone. And if a kid gets tetanus but wasn’t vaccinated? No cure. No suppressive treatment. Just a multi month stay in an ICU, intubated, in the worst pain of your life 24/7.
If the predatory idiots who peddle this anti vax nonsense didn’t have so much public influence the world would be a much better place.
If you are wondering why they are pushing the MMR vaccine for kids so hard, watch this video. They made the MMR vaccine with Sars-CoV 2 spike protein. I also explain that the "vaccinations" are actually gene therapy using Adenoviruses and Lentiviruses. (Lentivirus is a viral vector of HIV-1)
Incorporating a coronavirus antigen into MMR vaccine to produce Covid-19 immunity in kids
news-medical.net/news/20220727/…
A live attenuated measles virus vectored vaccine for sars-cov-2
patents.google.com/patent/WO20212…
Adenovirus Vectors for Gene Therapy, Vaccination and Cancer Gene Therapy
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC45…
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I can only speak to our experience. We are not anti-vax but did spread out vaccines early on for both kids (ie 3 at once instead of 6 at once).
We also do not get the flu shot (parents or kids) and did not get the Covid vaccine.
The result?
My kids are sick far less than other kids. Other kids constantly seem to have something, snotty noses, etc etc. Our kids very rarely get sick.
Nobody in the family has ever had the flu.
My wife and youngest never got Covid. My oldest and I both got it back when people still got pretty sick. He was sick for 24 hours then totally fine. Just slept most of the time. I felt bad for 36 hours then was totally fine. The ease with which our bodies dispatched the virus made me wonder why I would want a vaccine to alter our natural response.
Now these things could have nothing to do with how we’ve handled vaccines, but based on the results for my family, why on earth would I want to change how we approached it?
It’s easy to get caught up in anecdotal evidence. This experience is not typical. For example, I work in healthcare and therefore have to get the flu shot every year. A lot of my coworkers have had the flu this year, but have only been out 102 days each. I’ve worked alongside them while they were symptomatic and I haven’t gotten the flu. Everyone’s immune system is different. Sounds like your family just has generally stronger immune systems and/or y’all have good hand hygiene
Last part is true. I think my wife would dip the kids in a vat of hand sanitizer if she could.
I remember going to Folly beach as a kid and washing your hands before eating was rinsing them in the ocean and patting them dry on your shorts. Today’s kids will never know!
Please point out what I said that was so off base. I’m going off of the proven data and evidence-based medicine. Vaccines are safe. There is no debate there. The risk of being unvaccinated against previously eradicated diseases far outweighs the risk of the vaccines themselves.
There are a lot of things that can be debated, but the safety and efficacy of these “old-school” vaccines just simply isn’t one of them. I’m sorry
Again your ability to find the stupidest shit on the internet is unmatched.
Vaccines given now Vs someone born in the 60's or 70's.
the 1960s and 70s, kids were typically vaccinated against polio, measles, mumps, rubella, and smallpox. Modern childhood vaccination schedules have expanded significantly, now including vaccines against a wider range of diseases, such as hepatitis B, Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b), rotavirus, and varicella (chickenpox).
Here's a more detailed comparison:
1960s-1970s:
the 1960s and 70s, kids were typically vaccinated against polio, measles, mumps, rubella, and smallpox. Modern childhood vaccination schedules have expanded significantly, now including vaccines against a wider range of diseases, such as hepatitis B, Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b), rotavirus, and varicella (chickenpox).
Here's a more detailed comparison:
1960s-1970s:
- Polio: The oral polio vaccine (OPV) was introduced in 1961 and played a crucial role in significantly reducing polio cases.
- Measles: A measles vaccine was introduced in the early 1960s.
- Mumps: A mumps vaccine became available in 1967.
- Rubella: A rubella vaccine was introduced in 1969.
- Smallpox: Routine vaccination against smallpox was discontinued in the early 1970s, as the disease was largely eradicated in the United States.
- Combination Vaccines:
Many vaccines are now administered as combinations, like DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis), MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella), and DTaP-IPV (DTaP and inactivated polio).
- New Vaccines:
New vaccines have been added, including those against hepatitis B, Hib, rotavirus, varicella, influenza, pneumococcal bacteria, meningococcal bacteria, and HPV. - Vaccines Today:
- Expanded Schedule:
Today, children receive vaccines to protect against 16 different diseases, including those mentioned above, plus many others.
- Combination Vaccines:
Many vaccines are given in combination, such as DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis), MMRV (measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella), and others.
- New Vaccines:
Vaccines have been developed for diseases like Haemophilus influenzae type b, rotavirus, and more, reflecting advancements in science and public health.
- No Smallpox:
Smallpox is no longer routinely recommended for children due to its near eradication.
- Expanded Schedule:
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