Vaccines for children
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@yoshi121374 no idea of this was a well designed study or not. But the thesis and conclusion are interesting.
I'm not on X, but it appears that the study was done in 2010. Without diving too deep, doubt it was proven since we haven't heard of this any further.
It seems it’s been a thesis for a long time.
I still think we should continue including that in the list of possible causes of autism.
Until we 100% know what DOES cause it, we should not say something 100% does not cause it.
LMAO
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Vaccine Ingredients in the first 6 years of life your child receives the following:
• 17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
• 5,700 mcg aluminum (neurotoxin)
• Unknown amounts of fetal bovin serum(aborted cow blood)
• 801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)
• 23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcuses)
• 500 mcg human albumin (human blood)
• 760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (excitotoxin that causes obesity & diabetis)
• Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)
• Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)
• Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)
• Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)
• 116 mcg potassium chloride (used in lethal injection to shut down the heart and stop breathing)
• 188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)
• 260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)
• 70 mcg sodium borate (Borax, used for cockroach control)
• 54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)
• Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)
• Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)
• 2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)
• Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)
• 32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)
• 0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)
• Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)
• 35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)
• 5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)
• Other chemical residuals
(From the book, "What The Pharmaceutical Companies Don't Want You To Know About Vaccines" - By Dr Todd M. Elsner)
Dr. Peter McCullough: "What we've learned is this childhood vaccine schedule is not what we thought. And now critically looking at it, we have a situation that, we just learned that the World Council for Health now international body is calling for a complete moratorium on childhood vaccines. First international organization to call for that. Why? Because the vaccines are piling up one after another."
"They're being given in multiple salvos. There are safety events now that we learned. In 1986, the US passed legislation that indemnified the manufacturers of vaccines. In that legislation, it says the vaccines have unavoidable harm. It says that it so what are the harms that we're seeing?
"It's clear when the vaccines are given in multi multiple rounds. There's probably not no single vaccine and no single additive, but it's the sum total of vaccines given at once. We're seeing a strong signal towards, neuropsychiatric disorders, so attention deficit disorder, Asperger's, autism, seizures, allergic diseases, asthma, atopic dermatitis, sudden infant death syndrome."
"And then the converse now. This is the converse, which is papers by Mawson, Hooker, Miller, Thomas, and an older Amish study. All five studies show if children go natural, no vaccines whatsoever, they have the best outcomes. Freedom from these things."
"You know, when I was a kid, the rate of autism was one in ten thousand. Now it's one in thirty six. And there's about 200 published manuscripts showing it's a immune system dysregulation. The immune system dysregulation that, you know, in a reactogenic phase of the vaccine, sometimes with a febrile seizure, the the inflammatory factors go into the brain, probably permanently change it, and the vignettes the mothers tell us that the child was fine up until the time they took a multiple rounds of of vaccines and then they developed autism."
"Those vignettes are almost certainly correct. We can't pin it down to any single vaccine, but I'm telling you, in total, it doesn't look good. This epidemic of autism is a tsunami. And you know how, you know, many, many mothers now recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey showed, you know, about a third of mothers and young fathers going natural."
The anti vax crowd is too far gone to reason with. The nuance it takes to understand vaccines requires thinking. Someone who is anti vax just has an over exaggerated fear response and is more susceptible to fear mongering. Spreading out vaccines does more harm than good. The few occurrences of some formaldehyde and aluminum in vaccines are harmless and temporary.
Spreading out vaccine schedules results in three negatives. 1) Increased risk of infection via more occurrences of injections. 2) Weaker immune response with less antigen-material being exposed to the body at one time (I.e., baby’s immune system really ramps up the immune response and antibody production/storage if it sees 4 different vaccines at one time than if it just sees 1 or 2. This is much better for a kid both immediately and in the long run). 3) More pain for the baby as it has more frequent appointments for injections. More crying, more Tylenol needing to be given to soothe the baby, etc.
Nobody wins in a spread out vaccine schedule, except for the ignorant parents’ conscience.
Repeated, high-volume exposure to formaldehyde and aluminum in the bloodstream is harmful, yes. Vaccines contain small amounts of these as stabilizers. A person’s blood contains trace amounts of formaldehyde and aluminum anyway. So yes, there is a difference in a pregnant woman repeatedly eating fish that are high in mercury affecting a fetus and a small amount of mercury in a vaccine being given to a newborn 4 times at most.
Autism diagnoses are up due to a broader definition of autism (also known as “the spectrum”). People often mistake coincidence for causation in that vaccine schedules often line up with major developmental milestones, or “milestone explosions” where children will reach numerous developmental milestones in a short period. Since the general range for normal vs delayed can be a matter of weeks or months at such a young age, vaccines are easily blamed for “causing” autism when they do not. If vaccines were not given near developmental milestones (which would be nearly impossible considering the amount of milestones kids have in their first 2-3 years of life), you would probably see less skepticism about vaccines and autism.
Lastly, vaccines (the well-established ones. The covid vaccine is an entirely different discussion) have proven time and time again to be extremely safe and effective in reducing child mortality and overall disease burden. Smallpox was damn near eradicated due to vaccines (just off the top of my head, not 100% sure there. I think it was at least deemed eradicated at one point). Polio went from being a national emergency that killed and/or paralyzed thousands upon thousands to being a complete afterthought. Measles and mumps went from being widespread to now the occasional outbreak anytime a specific geographic area gets exposed to too much anti vax rhetoric and suffers an outbreak. Measles used to kill hundreds of kids a year, now even with the occasional stupid outbreak it’s in the single digits. Tetanus used to kill tons of kids, now it’s a complete afterthought.
The problem with anti vaxxers is that their “science” has been disproven more times than anyone can count. Additionally, most anti vaxxers were vaccinated themselves and have benefited from vaccinations. Also, because most of the “vaccinate-able” diseases have been so effectively reduced, the average American has no concept of what going through one of these diseases is like.
Look up pictures of kids with tetanus infection. It is absolutely brutal. I’m talking months in an ICU, bed-ridden, in excruciating pain from full body muscle cramps that can be so strong it pulls a child’s muscle off of the bone. And if a kid gets tetanus but wasn’t vaccinated? No cure. No suppressive treatment. Just a multi month stay in an ICU, intubated, in the worst pain of your life 24/7.
If the predatory idiots who peddle this anti vax nonsense didn’t have so much public influence the world would be a much better place.
Spreading out vaccine schedules results in three negatives. 1) Increased risk of infection via more occurrences of injections. 2) Weaker immune response with less antigen-material being exposed to the body at one time (I.e., baby’s immune system really ramps up the immune response and antibody production/storage if it sees 4 different vaccines at one time than if it just sees 1 or 2. This is much better for a kid both immediately and in the long run). 3) More pain for the baby as it has more frequent appointments for injections. More crying, more Tylenol needing to be given to soothe the baby, etc.
Nobody wins in a spread out vaccine schedule, except for the ignorant parents’ conscience.
Repeated, high-volume exposure to formaldehyde and aluminum in the bloodstream is harmful, yes. Vaccines contain small amounts of these as stabilizers. A person’s blood contains trace amounts of formaldehyde and aluminum anyway. So yes, there is a difference in a pregnant woman repeatedly eating fish that are high in mercury affecting a fetus and a small amount of mercury in a vaccine being given to a newborn 4 times at most.
Autism diagnoses are up due to a broader definition of autism (also known as “the spectrum”). People often mistake coincidence for causation in that vaccine schedules often line up with major developmental milestones, or “milestone explosions” where children will reach numerous developmental milestones in a short period. Since the general range for normal vs delayed can be a matter of weeks or months at such a young age, vaccines are easily blamed for “causing” autism when they do not. If vaccines were not given near developmental milestones (which would be nearly impossible considering the amount of milestones kids have in their first 2-3 years of life), you would probably see less skepticism about vaccines and autism.
Lastly, vaccines (the well-established ones. The covid vaccine is an entirely different discussion) have proven time and time again to be extremely safe and effective in reducing child mortality and overall disease burden. Smallpox was damn near eradicated due to vaccines (just off the top of my head, not 100% sure there. I think it was at least deemed eradicated at one point). Polio went from being a national emergency that killed and/or paralyzed thousands upon thousands to being a complete afterthought. Measles and mumps went from being widespread to now the occasional outbreak anytime a specific geographic area gets exposed to too much anti vax rhetoric and suffers an outbreak. Measles used to kill hundreds of kids a year, now even with the occasional stupid outbreak it’s in the single digits. Tetanus used to kill tons of kids, now it’s a complete afterthought.
The problem with anti vaxxers is that their “science” has been disproven more times than anyone can count. Additionally, most anti vaxxers were vaccinated themselves and have benefited from vaccinations. Also, because most of the “vaccinate-able” diseases have been so effectively reduced, the average American has no concept of what going through one of these diseases is like.
Look up pictures of kids with tetanus infection. It is absolutely brutal. I’m talking months in an ICU, bed-ridden, in excruciating pain from full body muscle cramps that can be so strong it pulls a child’s muscle off of the bone. And if a kid gets tetanus but wasn’t vaccinated? No cure. No suppressive treatment. Just a multi month stay in an ICU, intubated, in the worst pain of your life 24/7.
If the predatory idiots who peddle this anti vax nonsense didn’t have so much public influence the world would be a much better place.
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