Watson done for?

[kingkyle1008]

What in the world does that have to do with anything? Him dating a porn star doesn’t make him a bad guy or an abuser. Bad, bad take.

Yea he doesn’t date a porn star he has been dating the same model for a couple years now. I have no idea if he did this or not but plenty of the stuff being thrown around and spread in this topic is bullshit. And even if he was Dating a porn star that doesn’t automatically mean he pulled his dick out and asked for it to be massaged

 

[GoodWord28]

Looks like no happy ending for DW....

 

[TigerFlow]

What a train wreck of a thread. I'm not much of a conspiracy guy, but the timing of all this and the way it has been presented is VERY coincidental. I'm certainly not going to start piling on one of our own because a renowned sleazy lawyer releases some sleazy information with nothing to back it up but hearsay. The fact this lawyer has a relationship with McNair is really the icing on the cake.

No wonder DW4 wants out of Houston. Sleazetown.

 

[kingkyle1008]

The lawyer can be a sleazebag but he is a well-respected lawyer that has a net worth over 700 million. This isn't some random lawyer that is out for a quick buck.

Is that a fact or just something the lawyer posted on his IG like everything else?
I have a hard time believing a lawyer worth 700 million dollars is out still practicing law and posting all of his cases on Instagram and then arguing with people in his comments about his cases before he even brings them to court. Maybe I’m wrong but it doesn’t seem like something someone worth 700 million dollars would do. It seems like someone worth 70 thousand dollars but wants the world to think he’s a billion would do. But shit I’ve never seen 700 million dollars so I wouldn’t know, but I find it highly questionable

 

[Joe Cobb]

Ray Lewis killed a guy. Won the MVP the next year. Difference is... the Ravens wanted him around.

DW will be fine.

 

[treetiger]

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I'm starting a list of potential WOKE supporters on TI. Your name goes first on the list. But I will somewhat quantify your WOKEness a little bit here. Watson may possibly had done what he's accused of here. It is just your WOKE people then sitting on it as ammunition to be used if someone was walk the WOKE line, as apparently Watson will not do.

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

Ray Lewis killed a guy. Won the MVP the next year. Difference is... the Ravens wanted him around.

DW will be fine.

Yeah, but there wasn't a popular movement on social media against killing people back then.

 

[CU Alumnus]

Yes. Civil is preponderance of the evidence, criminal is beyond a reasonable doubt.

Possibly more importantly - civil requires 8/12 jurors to agree. Criminal requires 12/12.

 

[hillf02]

It may be true. It may not. But the Duke lacrosse case and the one about the UVA fraternity that was written up in Rolling Stone are just two of the most prominent examples of why we should never condemn anyone for something like this before all the facts are out.

 

[Cloud 9]

Is that a fact or just something the lawyer posted on his IG like everything else?
I have a hard time believing a lawyer worth 700 million dollars is out still practicing law and posting all of his cases on Instagram and then arguing with people in his comments about his cases before he even brings them to court. Maybe I’m wrong but it doesn’t seem like something someone worth 700 million dollars would do. It seems like someone worth 70 thousand dollars but wants the world to think he’s a billion would do. But shit I’ve never seen 700 million dollars so I wouldn’t know, but I find it highly questionable

Simple Google of him will give you most of his info and court cases he has won/lost and his bio including his net worth.

Obviously could be fake info but it's all over the internet about him.

Only negative that I found really was that he tried to be the Mayor and lost.

 

[MKOTiger]

The accusations are piling up for ole Watson. He was a real stick man in college, maybe he'll get wiser about what he's slinging out there... Hope he gets due process, however this goes down....

Deshaun Watson Sexual Assault Accuser List Grows, Lawyer Claims 9 Women Coming Forward

The attorney representing the 3 women who have filed sexual misconduct lawsuits against Deshaun Watson now says the total number of accusers has ballooned to NINE.

www.tmz.com

I would hope that even those on this board will give anyone (especially a former great) the same respect that anyone should get. That is, innocent until proven guilty. You say that you hope for due process but the you go on to say how bad this is.

Maybe this will give a different perspective. Deshaun was a great fan of Bob Mcnair, the owner that recently passed away. His son is now running the franchise , and is the individual that Deshaun has accused of lying to him (which has been supported as true through various media sources), prompting the trade demands. Buzzbee (the attorney now suing Watson) is a neighbor the McNair family and a good friend with Cal, the son running the franchise who Watson can’t stand. Go figure.

This guy, Buzzbee, is a big time attorney and is not going to represent a group of massage parlor women without an ulterior motive. supposedly there is a provision in Watsons contract that will allow them to reduce the cap hit if he violates a morality requirement (ie, they can still pay in settlement but the settlement amount doesn’t count toward the cap). So, everything can get dropped via a minimum settlement and Houston can honor the contract With Watson through a separate settlement agreement, but that amount is no longer counted toward the franchise cap.

I don’t know that any of this is going on, but there are crazy consequences and a number of media sources are skeptical and believe that McNairs are involved. If that’s the case, it’s a good bet that all this just means that they are leveraging an anticipated Watson trade.

 

[SlovenskoTiger]

The lawyer can be a sleazebag but he is a well-respected lawyer that has a net worth over 700 million. This isn't some random lawyer that is out for a quick buck.

We shall see what happens, but if this is his schtick, hopefully DW gets cleared quickly

 

[tallulahtiger30319]

Tell us more

He's learning real quickly what it feels lik

You’re just mad because it didn’t work out with that ugly trailer trash you found on the internet.

Hold up a minute. I'm lost. WTH are you guys fighting about?

 

[DaTater]

Not getting his anus oiled started it?

 

[charlestontiger417]

OT but I knew a girl at Clemson that tried to file a criminal rape case against a person a knew. She basically had buyers remorse and decided the best thing to do was to ruin a young mans life.

Thankfully there were multiple witnesses(guys and girls) that spoke out in support of the guy. Turns out it was made up BS, there were multiple holes in her story, and he was dismissed of all charges.

I don't think she should be able to walk free from that. He would have been kicked out of college, jailed, be on the sex offenders list, and probably never lead a successful life after that if he had been found guilty. Those are very very serious accusations. She could have destroyed his entire life.

And yet she got to just walk away from it. Oh it's no big deal. I lost. oopsies......

Still pisses me off to this day. It's a HUGE deal and a serious accusation with life altering implications. If he were found guilty he would not have his current wife, kids, job, etc. It's scary to think about that one false accusation could have completely altered the course of his life.

I am wondering if we know the same person. She made up the rape part. My friend had to leave school. Never heard from him again.

 

[Shanedclemfan1]

The lawyer can be a sleazebag but he is a well-respected lawyer that has a net worth over 700 million. This isn't some random lawyer that is out for a quick buck.

Well respected?That's an opinion that I'm certain noone in his neighborhood shares lol.Should he be admired for having a trophy wife 26 years his junior?Or the fact he is being investigated again for his contributions to a fellow politician so he didnt have to face the same punishment as fellow citizens for his crime?
Maybe it was his denouncement of Trump after giving him 250k and then adding another 500k afterwards lol.Wait he is a Aggie regent...imo bought seat bagman.His record is public maybe in my naivete I'm missing that he is a champion of rights and defender of justice.I should probably look closer at the facts before I pass judgment.Only an honest well respected and connected lawyer possibly amass 700 million so far.

 

[Howard's Jock]

I am wondering if we know the same person. She made up the rape part. My friend had to leave school. Never heard from him again.

how old are you? a friend of mine had a son at Clemson this happened to

 

[Cloud 9]

Well respected?That's an opinion that I'm certain noone in his neighborhood shares lol.Should he be admired for having a trophy wife 26 years his junior?Or the fact he is being investigated again for his contributions to a fellow politician so he didnt have to face the same punishment as fellow citizens for his crime?
Maybe it was his denouncement of Trump after giving him 250k and then adding another 500k afterwards lol.Wait he is a Aggie regent...imo bought seat bagman.His record is public maybe in my naivete I'm missing that he is a champion of rights and defender of justice.I should probably look closer at the facts before I pass judgment.Only an honest well respected and connected lawyer possibly amass 700 million so far.

Point taken.. But to be naive in this case isn't going to end well...

 

[GamecockTears]

He’s been dating a porn star. Let’s stop acting like he’s infallible just because he was our QB

He isn't dating a porn star. Where in the hell did you get that from?

 

[vatiger1]

The McNair’s are behind this

Pretty obvious this is a hatchet job from McNair and the POS Atty.

Hard to believe if Deshaun would not have demanded a trade - we would not hear a peep about this if he wanted to stay on as a Texan QB.

 

[GamecockTears]

The stories seem awfully similar. But one thing that also seems the same from every story is that they could easily be interpreted as Watson just being creepy and sleazy, rather than having actually assaulted these women. None of them ever really say that he physically forced them to do anything, or that he threatened them with harm if they didn’t do what he wanted them to. That’s still a bad look for Watson, but it’s not a criminal look.

Agree. If anything it's Harrassment. Assault makes it sound like he raped them. He just tried to get a rub and tug.

 

[OrangeRegalia]

Agree. If anything it's Harrassment. Assault makes it sound like he raped them. He just tried to get a rub and tug.

The third one isn’t a harassment claim. That’s for sure.

 

[Orange&Purple]

Except most ppl found Christine Ford believable . Not even the Repubs attacked her in the hearings.

That’s not true at all!!

 

[ForzaTigre]

I can't believe Watson would do anything like this with all we have heard about him over the years. If it ends up being true, that is terrible...

Why can’t you believe it? He is one cocky sob. When these guys get all the fame and fortune they change. It’s not like this can’t happen to him. So many of you can’t believe it but almost no one on here personally knows him that well. You only know the football player or what you see on TV.

 

[ForzaTigre]

He isn't dating a porn star. Where in the hell did you get that from?

not now, but he did. It blows my mind that people act like DW can do no wrong because he was a Clemson quarterback and is open with his faith. A lot of these guys are not choir boys at all.

 

[tigerworx]

Nah that poster brings something to this board unlike you.

You really are a jerk.

Like YOU are something special?

You are a little whiny ass mean loser.

And, I don't care who the poster is/was you attacked.
This board would be better without you.

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

He's learning real quickly what it feels lik


Hold up a minute. I'm lost. WTH are you guys fighting about?

Who even knows. It's just typical e-drama from somebody who needs that. What I was talking about was a pretty hilarious self-own in a tMB thread. Basically, he tried to crap up the thread with more of his drama, then said that videos of teens on TikTok made him want to hook up with a fugly swamp-donk he'd been talking to on some app. He then posted a picture of said fugly swamp-donk, and proceeded to get made fun of because the girl is a fugly swamp-donk.

I'll give him credit for perseverance in the drama after that embarrassment, but the guy is just odd and kind of pathetic, so I mostly ignore him.

 

[SDTiger9]

The lawyer can be a sleazebag but he is a well-respected lawyer that has a net worth over 700 million. This isn't some random lawyer that is out for a quick buck.

Is he a well respect lawyer because his net worth is 700m? John Edwards was well respected until he wasn’t.

I got no dog in the fight but anytime I hear..... so and so is well respected, his net worth is XXXXXXXX. I immediately tune out.

What constitutes respected? Winning cases or making solid moral judgments?

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

The third one isn’t a harassment claim. That’s for sure.

I guess it will depend what "forced her to perform oral sex" is supposed to mean.

 

[clemsonkilla]

not now, but he did. It blows my mind that people act like DW can do no wrong because he was a Clemson quarterback and is open with his faith. A lot of these guys are not choir boys at all.

First of all he didn't date a porn star he was just friends with her! Second I am a person that believes if you show me that you are a good person I will give you the benefit of the doubt until you prove me wrong. So going off what I have seen, how can anyone say Deshaun is a bad person is beyond me. Until we get all the facts in these cases its all he said she said stuff. From a lot of peoples point of view it seems like Deshaun is very well respected man and this might just be a money grab and to derail Deshaun in Houston.

 

[OrangeRegalia]

I guess it will depend what "forced her to perform oral sex" is supposed to mean.

That’s a sexual assault claim. Whether that’s what happened or interpreted as is a different story. But forced to perform oral sex is assault in the way it’s written.

 

[d-tiger45]

Oil his anus os my new fantasy football team name...

Not getting his anus oiled started it?

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[ChicagoTiger85]

That’s a sexual assault claim. Whether that’s what happened or interpreted as is a different story. But forced to perform oral sex is assault in the way it’s written.

For sure. But if "forced" is really just that she felt verbally coerced, then that's something else.

 

[Panama City Tiger]

He should have stuck with his HS sweetheart.

 

[Cloud 9]

Is he a well respect lawyer because his net worth is 700m? John Edwards was well respected until he wasn’t.

I got no dog in the fight but anytime I hear..... so and so is well respected, his net worth is XXXXXXXX. I immediately tune out.

What constitutes respected? Winning cases or making solid moral judgments?

You are right... I don't know what constitutes anyone as a well-respected Lawyer. But he has won Lawyer of the year several times in Texas (which to many might not mean much). I don't have a dog in this fight either and would like Watson to be innocent of all charges.

So you may be right but reading up on his resume, it isn't like this guy is an ambulance chaser either..

 

[Paws14]

He isn't dating a porn star. Where in the hell did you get that from?

he has in the past. and he was associated with Mia Khalifa at one point. He aint hanging out at church in Houston

 

[ECtiger88]

My favorite posters: "You don't know what our players are like. You only see what they're like on the field."

Same poster: "Here's what they're like."

LOL.

 

[dbjork6317]

I’ll never really understand why a millionaire would need to do something like this. If this is true and DW4 has a kink for happy ending massages, he could so easily find girls that are perfectly willing to do that for the right price.

 

[Panama City Tiger]

he has in the past. and he was associated with Mia Khalifa at one point. He aint hanging out at church in Houston

Yep - this has been well documented. He could have just been hanging with Mia - either way not a good look to be associated with pron stars.

 

[DaTater]

He should have stuck with his HS sweetheart.

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