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What happened to leaving abortion up to the states?

Well please don’t do anything crazy like throw bricks through windows, attack anyone on the opposite side or loot any stores when the left loses control this November. Your mental health is important to me.

You may want to teach NYTiger how to throw before then, he strikes me as someone that’s right handed but leads with his right foot when he throws.

I swear, BLM protest whataboutism are your answer to everything. It is probably an excuse you use at work.

And I am disappointed that you are attempting to personally attack me. Especially after I stood up for you the other day when another poster commented on what a shithole place to live New Jersey is.

Sad!
 
Ok Batman. the only Batman shit in my house belongs to my five year old son.
that is your loss, not mine. Batman graphic novels are widely considered great American literature and rank up there with the works of Hawthorne, Faulkner, and Hemingway. Batman Action Comics defined a genre, and to this day comics are a commentary on society and the vices and virtues of man.

There is a reason why there are dedicated college classes on Batman and why Batman/Bruce Wayne is used as a case studies in graduate level Psychology courses at University's world wide.

But you do you bro

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I swear, BLM protest whataboutism are your answer to everything. It is probably an excuse you use at work.

And I am disappointed that you are attempting to personally attack me. Especially after I stood up for you the other day when another poster commented on what a shithole place to live New Jersey is.

Sad!
Why would I need excuse at work? I have a board, if I don't deliver I get swapped out.......simple stuff. We should treat our president accordingly.

Most of NJ is a shithole, have you been to Newark or Camden?
 
i think it should be higher than 15 weeks, but i think it's a reasonable start.

i also think it's remarkably hypocritical of the GOP to spend 60 years saying they want to leave it up to the states and are now saying they want to make national legislation for abortion as soon as RvW got overturned.
 
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Why? Dems want to pass a bill that ensures the right to same sex marriage and can't get any Republicans on board, even though most claim to support same sex marriage. What evidence is there that Republicans will actually compromise on "social" issues?
 
I very much want abortion to be viewed as the abhorrent act of murder of the unborn that it is. It's barbaric in the extreme. Those of us who feel this way need to focus on winning the argument rather than cramming our views down people's throats. We see that from the left so why would we resort to the same tactics? It isn't right when they do it and it isn't any more right when we do it.

That being said, abortion is not a federal matter. If we want to amend our Constitution relative to abortion, that would be an appropriate step but doing this as a legislative thing is ridiculous. Republicans continue to find new and exciting ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Whether it be nominating a completely unserious candidate in NH last night or trying stuff like this which is totally against any core conservative principles, it never ceases to amaze me how stupid these people are. Senator Graham is not a conservative. He's someone who should not be in the Senate any longer. I'm so tired of people like this continuously doing stupid things.
 

Please tell me you see that there is no trust here on either side. Please tell me that you understand that after that speech last week, there's no good will left. I would not support anything this President tries to do until he apologizes for that pathetic display. Not to mention that amazing "celebration" they had yesterday which was just one demonstrable lie after another for the entire time!
 
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that is your loss, not mine. Batman graphic novels are widely considered great American literature and rank up there with the works of Hawthorne, Faulkner, and Hemingway. Batman Action Comics defined a genre, and to this day comics are a commentary on society and the vices and virtues of man.

There is a reason why there are dedicated college classes on Batman and why Batman/Bruce Wayne is used as a case studies in graduate level Psychology courses at University's world wide.

But you do you bro

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Please tell me you see that there is no trust here on either side. Please tell me that you understand that after that speech last week, there's no good will left. I would not support anything this President tries to do until he apologizes for that pathetic display. Not to mention that amazing "celebration" they had yesterday which was just one demonstrable lie after another for the entire time!

Were you this fired up when Trump called Dems fascists?
 
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Were you this fired up when Trump called Dems fascists?

Barking up the wrong tree there. I don't support Trump or anything about him. Guy is a total turd! Besides, how is it only "whataboutism" when people on the right say it? You guys do this constantly as well. It's everyone using other people's horrible actions to justify their own. No thank you to any of it!
 
Please tell me you see that there is no trust here on either side. Please tell me that you understand that after that speech last week, there's no good will left. I would not support anything this President tries to do until he apologizes for that pathetic display. Not to mention that amazing "celebration" they had yesterday which was just one demonstrable lie after another for the entire time!
He doesn't need to apologize until one side apologizes for the conditions that led to his speech. Your side created this monster and the majority still support it. While the Left has rejected their extremists at the polls, the Right has gone full MAGA. This is not politics as usual. This is not normal and Joe was right to shine a light on it. If he didn't, who was going to?

"The 2022 primary season has come to an end — and with it so should any claims that our politics is afflicted by “polarization.”

"In both parties, ideological forces did indeed try to pull the center of gravity toward the extremes. But the results were sharply different. In the GOP, the hard right prevailed, very much confirming the impression of a MAGA takeover of the party. In the Democratic primaries, the hard left was a nonentity, and the mainstream triumphed overwhelmingly; for all the chatter about the Squad, socialists, “Defund the Police,” “Abolish ICE,” “Medicare-for-all” and the “Green New Deal,” candidates who self-identified with such views barely registered."

"The upshot, Kamarck tells me, is that the majority of Republican nominees on the November ballot are MAGA adherents, while the vast majority of Democratic nominees do not identify with left-wing figures or causes."

 
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He doesn't need to apologize until one side apologizes for the conditions that led to his speech. Your side created this monster and the majority still support it. While the Left has rejected their extremists at the polls, the Right has gone full MAGA. This is not politics as usual. This is not normal and Joe was right to shine a light on it. If he didn't, who was going to?

"The 2022 primary season has come to an end — and with it so should any claims that our politics is afflicted by “polarization.”

"In both parties, ideological forces did indeed try to pull the center of gravity toward the extremes. But the results were sharply different. In the GOP, the hard right prevailed, very much confirming the impression of a MAGA takeover of the party. In the Democratic primaries, the hard left was a nonentity, and the mainstream triumphed overwhelmingly; for all the chatter about the Squad, socialists, “Defund the Police,” “Abolish ICE,” “Medicare-for-all” and the “Green New Deal,” candidates who self-identified with such views barely registered."


"The upshot, Kamarck tells me, is that the majority of Republican nominees on the November ballot are MAGA adherents, while the vast majority of Democratic nominees do not identify with left-wing figures or causes."


Hence the reason we never get anywhere. You think any means justifies the ends you seek. That's what's wrong with you and will remain so as long as people think like you do.
 
that is your loss, not mine. Batman graphic novels are widely considered great American literature and rank up there with the works of Hawthorne, Faulkner, and Hemingway. Batman Action Comics defined a genre, and to this day comics are a commentary on society and the vices and virtues of man.

There is a reason why there are dedicated college classes on Batman and why Batman/Bruce Wayne is used as a case studies in graduate level Psychology courses at University's world wide.

But you do you bro

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damn dude, i used to think you were actually somewhat smart. you really think a few shitty graphic novels are held in the same light as the best american authors of all time? do you have a batman PJ onesie? which of your parents basements did you pick to live in?
 
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Hence the reason we never get anywhere. You think any means justifies the ends you seek. That's what's wrong with you and will remain so as long as people think like you do.
Trump LIED about the Left every day he was in office. Biden told the TRUTH ONCE and now your pvssy's in an angry twangle? Methinks thou dost protest too much
 
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Trump LIED about the Left every day he was in office. Biden told the TRUTH ONCE and now your pvssy's in an angry twangle? Methinks thou dost protest too much
Correct, Biden has only told the truth once since he's been in office. That's literally the most accurate thing you've ever said on here.
 
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Correct, Biden has only told the truth once since he's been in office. That's literally the most accurate thing you've ever said on here.
Some people call you dumb but I say they don't give you enough credit for your post-graduate degree in Projection, nor your summa cum laude in Whataboutism, with a focus on But Hillary.
 
This 100%.

At this point, why should we trust that their national ban will have exceptions for rape and incest? For the most part, the red states have not included these exceptions. And most red states are going for total ban to 6 weeks.

How can anyone trust the GOP anymore?
How can anyone trust either party anymore? Our government sucks, but the democrat party sucks way harder.

The democrats, with the help of the FBI, literally framed Trump.

Can't trust any of them. The swamp needs to be drained. Government agencies need to be moved out of Washington DC and spread throughout the country so that all of the people are represented and not just the swampy people.
 
How can anyone trust either party anymore? Our government sucks, but the democrat party sucks way harder.

The democrats, with the help of the FBI, literally framed Trump.

Can't trust any of them. The swamp needs to be drained. Government agencies need to be moved out of Washington DC and spread throughout the country so that all of the people are represented and not just the swampy people.
Dude your party isn't even sane.

I can't believe those corrupt FBI agents are framing criminals who stole national security secrets! Damn them!


 
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How can anyone trust either party anymore? Our government sucks, but the democrat party sucks way harder.

The democrats, with the help of the FBI, literally framed Trump.

Can't trust any of them. The swamp needs to be drained. Government agencies need to be moved out of Washington DC and spread throughout the country so that all of the people are represented and not just the swampy people.

Donald Trump. The only honest man in America.
 
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Trump LIED about the Left every day he was in office. Biden told the TRUTH ONCE and now your pvssy's in an angry twangle? Methinks thou dost protest too much
Speaking of lying…..
 
Some people call you dumb but I say they don't give you enough credit for your post-graduate degree in Projection, nor your summa cum laude in Whataboutism, with a focus on But Hillary.
I've been called way worse
 
If true, it’s incredibly stupid. It’s not quite the 100% plainly obvious ridiculousness of limiting contraception, but things like the plan B pill should flow freely to keep situations from escalating to the point of an abortion.

interesting, just found out that Graham’s bill will still allow red states to put total bans in place, but it will not allow any blue state to make any exceptions past 15 weeks.

so in other words, the republic message going into midterms is that red states should be able to make their own laws, but not blue states.

what kind of fascism is that? He is declaring war on half the country!!!!!!
 
interesting, just found out that Graham’s bill will still allow red states to put total bans in place, but it will not allow any blue state to make any exceptions past 15 weeks.

so in other words, the republic message going into midterms is that red states should be able to make their own laws, but not blue states.

what kind of fascism is that? He is declaring war on half the country!!!!!!

Well that’s stupid then. And the pubs are totally tone deaf.
 
Trump LIED about the Left every day he was in office. Biden told the TRUTH ONCE and now your pvssy's in an angry twangle? Methinks thou dost protest too much

And you hate Trump for what he did. I don't like the way he branded people. It was wrong when Trump did it and it's wrong now. That you think this is OK but that wasn't really tells the story with you. It's even worse now. This administration and the left in general want to apply a scarlet letter on anyone that's an opponent to their views. The process is so obvious.

First, create an unacceptable label to apply to people by distorting everything as MAGA. Then, anything you don't like thus becomes MAGA and you see it everywhere now. Everything is MAGA this, MAGA that. They are trying to use this scarlet letter labeling to bully people into doing what they want or they will face being expelled from "polite society" and being consigned to the prison of MAGA. It's against everything liberals have stood for through all of history. That people like you stand by and cheer is just astonishing. I pray you'll wake up at some point.
 
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Well that’s stupid then. And the pubs are totally tone deaf.

Why would it be stupid to want to stop the killing of babies? Graham is wrong but saying it's stupid to protect life after 15 weeks is not stupid. The desire to extinguish life after 15 weeks is evil. Keep in mind that most of the world has bans after 15 weeks in place because they all know what is readily obvious based on the science available. It's a baby we are killing! There's a lot of really evil stuff going on with the political extremes in this country. We need to put a stop to all of it.
 
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And you hate Trump for what he did. I don't like the way he branded people. It was wrong when Trump did it and it's wrong now. That you think this is OK but that wasn't really tells the story with you. It's even worse now. This administration and the left in general want to apply a scarlet letter on anyone that's an opponent to their views. The process is so obvious.

First, create an unacceptable label to apply to people by distorting everything as MAGA. Then, anything you don't like thus becomes MAGA and you see it everywhere now. Everything is MAGA this, MAGA that. They are trying to use this scarlet letter labeling to bully people into doing what they want or they will face being expelled from "polite society" and being consigned to the prison of MAGA. It's against everything liberals have stood for through all of history. That people like you stand by and cheer is just astonishing. I pray you'll wake up at some point.
isn't this the same as the GOP labeling anything the democrats want as socialism or communism? it's just politicians playing the game, and as much as i dislike it happening, it's just one of those things that'll probably never stop.
 
Why would it be stupid to want to stop the killing of babies? Graham is wrong but saying it's stupid to protect life after 15 weeks is not stupid. The desire to extinguish life after 15 weeks is evil. Keep in mind that most of the world has bans after 15 weeks in place because they all know what is readily obvious based on the science available. It's a baby we are killing! There's a lot of really evil stuff going on with the political extremes in this country. We need to put a stop to all of it.

I was responding specifically to NY’s post that while it sets the cap at 15 weeks, it allows for individual states to set it lower or ban abortions altogether.

I don’t like abortions either, but politically, and leading up to midterm elections, outright bans on abortions are extremely unpopular. So that’s a stupid political position to publicly take right now.
 
And you hate Trump for what he did. I don't like the way he branded people. It was wrong when Trump did it and it's wrong now. That you think this is OK but that wasn't really tells the story with you. It's even worse now. This administration and the left in general want to apply a scarlet letter on anyone that's an opponent to their views. The process is so obvious.

First, create an unacceptable label to apply to people by distorting everything as MAGA. Then, anything you don't like thus becomes MAGA and you see it everywhere now. Everything is MAGA this, MAGA that. They are trying to use this scarlet letter labeling to bully people into doing what they want or they will face being expelled from "polite society" and being consigned to the prison of MAGA. It's against everything liberals have stood for through all of history. That people like you stand by and cheer is just astonishing. I pray you'll wake up at some point.
Stop the dramatic bullshit...if you really think it's worse now it's because the MAGA movement IS WORSE than anything we've seen before. If you don't think requiring a litmus test to say the election was stolen is anything but corrupt and anti-democratic, you are part of the problem. If you think it's just fine for people who follow Q or have an IQ of 6 to be elected because they'll lick the orange taint, you are part of the problem.

If you are center right, he is not talking about you....he made that clear. But since your panties are twisted into a pretzel, it's obvious that you take it personally. There must be a reason.

Here's a test....if you think it was right to censure Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and kick them out of the party for standing up for democracy, you're probably MAGA.
If you think it was wrong and you approve of their work on the J6 committee, you're not MAGA.

This shit is not normal. Are you for our Constitutional Republic or not?
 
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MAGA movement is a movement of the people. LOL at it being "worse than anything you have seen before." America first is that bad? Maybe you like the movement allowing people to poop in the street?

Trump loves America and you losers can't stand it.

Maga and proud and see you in 2024.
 
MAGA movement is a movement of the people. LOL at it being "worse than anything you have seen before." America first is that bad? Maybe you like the movement allowing people to poop in the street?

Trump loves America and you losers can't stand it.

Maga and proud and see you in 2024.
Laughing my ass off. I never felt loved for a second under Trump nor did any other Democrat I know. If that's love then I'd hate to experience the opposite.

America First is a laughable phrase that translates to "Whatever Trump wants First."
 
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