ADVERTISEMENT

What's wrong with Trump

Oh ... ok ... I follow you now

For me it wasnt the "loud mouth jerk" that drove me away, it made me *cringe* for sure and the tweets ...OH the tweets were embarrassing ... but there were key moments that just disgusted me

- The infidelity - cheating on every single one of his wives, and with at least one known porn star ... that gave me pause. For the record ... I dont respect men who cheat on their wives. A man who cheats on his wife lacks integrity.

- Wearing faith as a prop - I understand and appreciate folks who keep their faith private, so I didnt mind that he refused to answer the question regarding his favorite bible verse (mine is James 1; 19 if folks are keeping score), but .... I kind of figured ... Trump didnt live a "Christian Life" (see above) ... but then ... when the BLM rioters set fire to the church across from the White House, Trump marches across the street and holds the Bible up as a prop. That disgusted me

- His attack on a Gold Star family - This is where he lost me in 2016. He went after a Gold Star family, and that is a hard stop NO... YOU DO NOT DO THAT. The only response that a politician can give a Gold Star family is to give their condolences and thank them for their sacrifice. Period. No other words are needed. AND sure sure sure that family was anti-Trump from the get go and were used as pawns by the DNC to provoke Trump into responding .... sure .... I understand that .... but it worked .... which makes his response even more egregious. He fell for it .... if he falls for that, what else would be fall for?

- Comments about the Military - I believe, with 100% certainty, that Trump has little to no respect for Military personnel. I believe he believes that our military dead wasted their lives and absolutely called them losers and suckers as reported in 2020. Also when General Mattis resigned in 2019, that gave me great pause ... I have 3 ex-Marine buddies (they were Marines, I was not) and all three of them love General Mattis ... to the point of it being strange. So when Mattis said what he said about Trump ... I listened.

- Loyalty to Him over Loyalty to the Constitution- Trump demands loyalty to him, not loyalty to the GOP, not loyalty to conservative principles and ideals .... and most importantly not loyalty to the Constitution .... he demands loyalty to "Him". Trump is not a King ... so when honorable men (Mattis and Kelly) resigned their positions, and Trump turned on them by calling them first disloyal and then RINOs and then members of the "Deep State", it just furthered my disgust for Trump.
JFC half your post is either outright lies or stories concocted by “trusted sources” from CNN. Would you like to revisit Stormy Daniels and Michael Aavenatti and the supposed military personnel remark? Would you like to go back and listen to Trump’s words on 1/06?

I get the feeling you watch CNN without a shred of discernment like the rest of the yahoo’s ITT
 
JFC half your post is either outright lies or stories concocted by “trusted sources” from CNN. Would you like to revisit Stormy Daniels and Michael Aavenatti and the supposed military personnel remark? Would you like to go back and listen to Trump’s words on 1/06?

I get the feeling you watch CNN without a shred of discernment like the rest of the yahoo’s ITT

Don't need any of the recent stuff with Trump,. You honestly don't need anything but the words that came from his filthy mouth. He had a terrible reputation prior to ever running for President. It seems many people believe the fictional TV version of Donald Trump, that was far from reality.
 
JFC half your post is either outright lies or stories concocted by “trusted sources” from CNN. Would you like to revisit Stormy Daniels and Michael Aavenatti and the supposed military personnel remark? Would you like to go back and listen to Trump’s words on 1/06?

I get the feeling you watch CNN without a shred of discernment like the rest of the yahoo’s ITT
… please be specific … what in my post was a outright “lie”.

- even if we don’t count Stormy Daniels, he cheated on every one of his wives. As stated … he lacks integrity

- he absolutely wears faith as a prop, the Bible photo shoot was pretty disgusting. His comments about having nothing to ask Jesus forgiveness for is blasphemy.

- he absolutely attacked a Gold Star family.

- the comments about our military dead was reported by the Atlantic (not CNN). True, we don’t have audio of him saying what was reported … but … I absolutely believe that Trump called our dead soldiers “suckers”. Also, the comments from Mattie, who is universally adored by every Marine to the point where it’s weird, is very telling

- Barr, Kelly, and Mattis are universally respected in Washington. Politics are Politics, and these three men may catch/caught fire from the left, but the Dems respect these men … all three have said exactly what I posted … Trump demands loyalty to him above all, and that’s wrong.

I have Fox News on in the back ground during my work days. I’ll flip over to CNN at times, usually during a breaking political story to see what they are reporting. For Nightly News I watch NBC, because I really like Lester Holt. But my go to is Fox News. I think Harris Faulkner, Sarah Macullum, Dana Perino, John Hemmer, and Bret Baier are brilliant. I could do with Jeannine Pirro, Tucker Carlson, or Seas Hannity though.
 
  • Like
Reactions: fcctiger12
I get wanting better candidates. I don't get refusing to pick who you think is the lesser of two evils. You may as well have written in the tooth fairy.
In 2016, I couldn’t in good conscious vote Trump and no way was I going to vote Hillary.

in 2020 … I had actually checked for Biden. Before click “Finalize” ballot, I prayed and thought long and hard about it. I changed my vote because the images of Democrats kneeling in the Capital rotunda just enraged me.

I live in Maryland, sooooooooo it really doesn’t matter who I vote for in National elections. Maryland is as blue as blue can be … I live on the Eastern Shore which is deep deep deep Red, but we don’t have the population over here to make a difference.

Speaking of Maryland

huge win for Maryland Republicans today
 
Last edited:
… please be specific … what in my post was a outright “lie”.

- even if we don’t count Stormy Daniels, he cheated on every one of his wives. As stated … he lacks integrity

- he absolutely wears faith as a prop, the Bible photo shoot was pretty disgusting. His comments about having nothing to ask Jesus forgiveness for is blasphemy.

- he absolutely attacked a Gold Star family.

- the comments about our military dead was reported by the Atlantic (not CNN). True, we don’t have audio of him saying what was reported … but … I absolutely believe that Trump called our dead soldiers “suckers”. Also, the comments from Mattie, who is universally adored by every Marine to the point where it’s weird, is very telling

- Barr, Kelly, and Mattis are universally respected in Washington. Politics are Politics, and these three men may catch/caught fire from the left, but the Dems respect these men … all three have said exactly what I posted … Trump demands loyalty to him above all, and that’s wrong.

I have Fox News on in the back ground during my work days. I’ll flip over to CNN at times, usually during a breaking political story to see what they are reporting. For Nightly News I watch NBC, because I really like Lester Holt. But my go to is Fox News. I think Harris Faulkner, Sarah Macullum, Dana Perino, John Hemmer, and Bret Baier are brilliant. I could do with Jeannine Pirro, Tucker Carlson, or Seas Hannity though.

Im just curious, when did we start caring about integrity in politics in this country? Not talking about faux outrage in the media, talking about ground level people like you and me. There's zero integrity in politics in the US, it's been that way for decades,, and the further up the totem poll you get the worse it gets. Everyone knows this, it is what it is. Trump being a player in his younger years is the least of my concerns, and it's always curious to me why everyone all of a sudden cares about that nonsense(hint, nobody actually does its just convenient political ammunition, just like with Clinton). Stop focusing on integrity with your politicians, they're all dirty unless you're talking about the local level...And even then its a crapshoot. Politics is politics, what can you do for me. Believing anything else is just naive

Ill give you the religion aspect, didn't set well with me, but again politics. But its curious to me how Biden can get in front of the camera and feign religious devotion and nobody bats an eye. He's a scumbag career politician with a record of shady dealings, has a corrupt crackhead son and illegitimate grandchild in Arkansas that he doesn't acknowledge, but he plays the aw shucks card and all is well in the media... Just bullshit. Shall we get into his quid pro quo in Ukraine? What about all the legitimately racist shit he's said over the decades? Funny you don't hear about all that in the MSM... Like at all. Nada. Zilch. Nobody questioning his family's shady business dealings after 4 years over falling over themselves to nail Trump Jr and Ivanka and Kushner at every turn. Funny.

Whether it was CNN or the Atlantic, what does it matter? Do you know anything about the Atlantic? That's not me being a smartass, legitimate question. May want to do some digging on that one. Either way, you just admitted yourself there's no proof of it being said, just hearsay and innuendo from admitted anti-Trumpers. , Yet you're still pushing the narrative.

And sorry, I don't give a flying fvck about who is or who isn't respected in Washington. That's like winning a popularity contest a low rent Spartanburg strip club
 
I get wanting better candidates. I don't get refusing to pick who you think is the lesser of two evils. You may as well have written in the tooth fairy.
Imagine thinking your vote actually counts. Not a civics major I take it?

Seriously though, I wonder what would happen if everyone had the balls and smarts to vote for the candidate that best represented their views.
 
Imagine thinking your vote actually counts. Not a civics major I take it?

Seriously though, I wonder what would happen if everyone had the balls and smarts to vote for the candidate that best represented their views.
My post wasn't just about Pawrocka specifically. It was more of a general application. Like him, my individual vote in SC doesn't make much difference. It's evident the vast majority of voters have no say in who becomes president. It really on matters in swing states. My comment is particularly applicable there. Trump lost not because more democrats voted for Biden. Trump lost because more republicans and conservative independents who would be vastly more aligned with his policy decisions either did not vote or did not vote for him bc he was mean and hurt their feelings. Emotional reasons, not logical policy based reasons.
 
Imagine thinking your vote actually counts. Not a civics major I take it?

Seriously though, I wonder what would happen if everyone had the balls and smarts to vote for the candidate that best represented their views.
Also, a lot of that question depends on what "views" you mean. Is that policy views, religious views, likeability, etc.?
 
Heard the latest?
"Sanctions were not meant to deter"!

giphy.gif

Thats an accurate statement. There was nothing, sanctions included, that were going to deter Putin from invading Ukraine.

I hope I don’t need to explain the purpose of these sanctions or the intended effect. That should be obvious if you are even remotely informed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: fcctiger12
Biden is a lifelong Catholic who goes to Mass every week. Trump is a completely fake Christian who has only been in a church when politically expedient.

I honestly don't care if the President is a Christian. I do care if the President is completely faking it in an insulting way.
I am not concerned with any of these guys religious beliefs or lack of. I vote for a candidate based mainly on his economics first and then national security second. Biden is a life long politician and it doesnt mean SH*T to me that he may or may go to mass every Sunday or not.
 
No, what I see is a thoroughbred ass licker who thinks that everything that corrupt megalomaniac does is perfect and anointed by higher beings, while at the same time, demonizes every single member of the opposing party as being nothing but irredeemable demon spawn. Do you ever consider that you're out of balance?
@dpic73 telling me that I am out of balance? Good one!
 
Before you twist your panties into a pretzel, I wasn't insinuating that I approved of most of Trump's policies and when he left office, the pandemic was raging out of control, unemployment had skyrocketed and America was more divided than we've been since the Civil War. So yes, he did leave us in a much worse place than when he started, this is true.

And sorry, but I don't trust the character of people who are rabid Trump supporters, especially ones who still support him after what we've witnessed since the election. That probably tells me more about you than anything else you could say - it just does.

But since PAWrocka has repeatedly demonstrated that he's willing and able to find common ground in the reasonable middle, I'm sure we could find plenty of things we could agree on. I'm sure he could probably even shape my perspective on some things we might see differently because I trust that he's a decent guy and is open to dialogue. And knowing that he doesn't support the most vile sub-species to ever hold office does play into the that trust to be sure. That at least tells me his number one concern isn't about owning the libs, as I believe he has sincerely held beliefs about policy that may differ from mine, but they aren't radical at least.

I have a couple really good friends who identify as Republicans and we get along great, though we still have arguments about politics from time to time. But I also know they'd never go along with the seditious, gutter level bullshit we've seen from Trumpublicans the last couple years. It's just my opinion but if you really think the election was stolen and you support Trump to this day, I don't believe you're someone who really cares about right and wrong. But I believe PAWrocka does care and that's the difference.
Oh yes! @dpic73 is now our grand judge of moral character! Life is good!
 
I applaud you. I agree with all of this. Donald Trump is an absolute scumbag.

Where I diagree with @TigerGrowls and other about Trump is this, I don't want a scumbag representing me, or the country I live in even if I benefit from the results. The president is the image and representative of America throughout the world. While I'm not a huge Joe Biden fan, Donald Trump is a terrible person who is completely morally bankrupt.

How Christians can get past the fact that he said he hadn't ever asked for forgiveness from Jesus, because he didn't need to is shocking to me.
You guys are deluding yourselves if you think China Joe and Kamalatoe have suddenly placed our nation back into any perceived higher status of virtue and paragons of the world. I want a potus who is there to represent our nation first and foremost. I am not looking for a corrupt lifelong politician who has used his position in public office to first and foremost make himself and his family rich and then also to formulate deals that benefit an unseen international globalist social club. F**K that!! I am with Trump and a whole lot of others are too.
 
You guys are deluding yourselves if you think China Joe and Kamalatoe have suddenly placed our nation back into any perceived higher status of virtue and paragons of the world. I want a potus who is there to represent our nation first and foremost. I am not looking for a corrupt lifelong politician who has used his position in public office to first and foremost make himself and his family rich and then also to formulate deals that benefit an unseen international globalist social club. F**K that!! I am with Trump and a whole lot of others are too.
I bet you consider yourself a patriot don't you? Oh and read 'em and weep











 
Last edited:
At some point, folks will learn to stop giving Donald a hand job to beg for his attention. A lot of folks who follow him blindly will soon find themselves wondering how they find themselves screwed. This lifetime crook is gathering every dime he can to pay for his lawsuits, then run. You ought to stand on your own principles rather than act like a love scorned puppet.
 
What's the matter with Trump?

Not a damn thing! The Don is styling and profiling down in GA tonight pulling a crowd that 81M China Joe can only dream of and Trump has not even declared for 24 yet and its early in 22.



 
What's the matter with Trump?

Not a damn thing! The Don is styling and profiling down in GA tonight pulling a crowd that 81M China Joe can only dream of and Trump has not even declared for 24 yet and its early in 22.


You attending in-person tonight?
 
Thats an accurate statement. There was nothing, sanctions included, that were going to deter Putin from invading Ukraine.

I hope I don’t need to explain the purpose of these sanctions or the intended effect. That should be obvious if you are even remotely informed.
Of course, most people with any brain activity knew sanctions would not deter, but as usual this administration either, thought they would or just completely lied about it to the American people, AGAIN!
 
At some point, folks will learn to stop giving Donald a hand job to beg for his attention. A lot of folks who follow him blindly will soon find themselves wondering how they find themselves screwed. This lifetime crook is gathering every dime he can to pay for his lawsuits, then run. You ought to stand on your own principles rather than act like a love scorned puppet.
At some point you will forget about Trump and pay attention to how F'ed up our country is with this current administration!
 
  • Like
Reactions: TigerGrowls
Yup ... he is quite possibly the most successful failure in human history.

Of course ... its easy to come out a winner when you have a $250M head start.


Its unfortunate though (and I know we disagree and that is fine) because from a policy perspective I mostly agreed with him ..... he is just awful .... just awful .... he has no redeeming qualities at all. Its actually quite amazing how awful Trump is.
My take almost exactly. I’d say standing up for what you believe and for the country that elected you is redeeming though. I think he actually attempted to implement all the policies he ran on, that he meant what he said on the campaign trail. When’s the last time that happened? 200yrs? Lol. But he IS terrible at politics and an egotistical bore with no filter and never heard of the word nuance. Had he an ounce of political savvy and tolerance he could’ve won over a lot of people. He simply isn’t sophisticated enough to say things in a concise way that avoids negative connotations which the media uses as a bludgeon, over and over to apply the worst possible meaning to anything he says. I meet people who think he is the embodiment of evil. That he ran to get rich, that he has every phobia known to man. He’s an incredibly polarizing person because of his lack of communication skills and constant bragging. In the end he’s somewhere between what those who love and those who hate him believe him to be. There are just very few people who can objectively judge him imo.
 
At some point you will forget about Trump and pay attention to how F'ed up our country is with this current administration!
Sure it is. Bet you can't wait til the mid-terms so you can burn all our books, hang Fauci and sick the gazpacho police on school teachers that mention black history, amirite?
 
Sure it is. Bet you can't wait til the mid-terms so you can burn all our books, hang Fauci and sick the gazpacho police on school teachers that mention black history, amirite?
Why do you think this all happen after the mid-terms?
 
Sure it is. Bet you can't wait til the mid-terms so you can burn all our books, hang Fauci and sick the gazpacho police on school teachers that mention black history, amirite?
Please take your meds. LOL!!
 
Once again Donald Trump is just fine thank you.

 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: DW4_2016
Why do you think this all happen after the mid-terms?
IF your side takes over the House and Senate it will be in large part due to Trumpublicans taking those seats and that wing has been hijacked by the lunatic fringe. You're obviously not paying attention or don't care, but the deplorables on that side and red states have shown us what their vision is for our country. From banning books, banning history, monitoring teachers, refusing to let them acknowledge gays, denying science, passing laws that would allow them to overturn election results that they don't like, suing women that want abortions - heck there's even a bill in Missouri that would require women to go through with an ectopic pregnancy, which would kill them. They won't be satisfied until America is a white Christian ethno-state and people only learn what THEY approve.

It's definitely not an agenda that helps Americans or makes their lives better. In fact it's all about making our lives harder and allowing them to control us. That's who the party is now - the one you call the party of "Freedom"
 
  • Like
Reactions: nytigerfan
Once again Donald Trump is just fine thank you.

 
IF your side takes over the House and Senate it will be in large part due to Trumpublicans taking those seats and that wing has been hijacked by the lunatic fringe. You're obviously not paying attention or don't care, but the deplorables on that side and red states have shown us what their vision is for our country. From banning books, banning history, monitoring teachers, refusing to let them acknowledge gays, denying science, passing laws that would allow them to overturn election results that they don't like, suing women that want abortions - heck there's even a bill in Missouri that would require women to go through with an ectopic pregnancy, which would kill them. They won't be satisfied until America is a white Christian ethno-state and people only learn what THEY approve.

It's definitely not an agenda that helps Americans or makes their lives better. In fact it's all about making our lives harder and allowing them to control us. That's who the party is now - the one you call the party of "Freedom"
Dude...with your viewpoints you are the deplorable.
 
Thank you for your thoughtful fact-filled response. Can you point out something I said that wasn't true?
The vast majority of what you say is not true even though I am sure you believe it is somehow.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT