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Why are closing ceremonies so weird

When did they start saying it was the feast of Dionysus??

Oh that's right, after they committed the ultimate sin of offending people and got called out on it, so they had to backtrack.

But you're a good little parrot, you can repeat words very well.
"The ultimate sin" of offending people. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a pussy!
 
they backtracked because they know it was a mockery of the last supper and Jesus Christ. It's even more sick that people laugh about it.

Why in the world would they intentionally offend the largest religion in their own country?

Davincis Last Supper isn't even close to factual or realistic. None of those disciples or Jesus was a European White dude. Why in the world are you passionate about a painting.

I'm so tired of White, Male Christians trying to act like they've been persecuted. As I say all the time, other people getting more rights isn't diminishing your rights, unless you felt that it was your right to persecute others
 
The entire Christian last supper image was sampled from the Feast of Dionysus.

Religion is the antithesis of reason.
No. This is just wrong.

Lost in the furor over the obvious reference to da Vinci’s Last Supper, is the conflation of it with Dionysian themes. What was meant by replacing Jesus with a saintly drag queen, presided over by Dionysus?

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Why in the world would they intentionally offend the largest religion in their own country?

Davincis Last Supper isn't even close to factual or realistic. None of those disciples or Jesus was a European White dude. Why in the world are you passionate about a painting.

I'm so tired of White, Male Christians trying to act like they've been persecuted. As I say all the time, other people getting more rights isn't diminishing your rights, unless you felt that it was your right to persecute others
Are you saying artists aren’t intentionally provocative? There’s even a French phrase that’s sometimes used in English for this, ‘epater la bourgeoisie.” Scandalizing the majority is the point.

I share your distaste for playing the victim. However, when you stop looking at people as representatives of a class and instead judge individual situations, even white male Christians can be targeted.
 
Are you saying artists aren’t intentionally provocative? There’s even a French phrase that’s sometimes used in English for this, ‘epater la bourgeoisie.” Scandalizing the majority is the point.

I share your distaste for playing the victim. However, when you stop looking at people as representatives of a class and instead judge individual situations, even white male Christians can be targeted.

Not at all. Artists throughout history like to be provocative. I just am exhausted by the constant need for people to feel like they are victims. And while it does happen to White, Christian, Heterosexual Males, of which I am one lol, that group is currently the loudest protesters, and of times with extreme ignorance.

Take the Social Media posts about the Algerian Boxer, didn't matter how many times it was explained that this wasn't a Biological Male, they refused to back down, refused to admit they were wrong. Just keep bitching about it.

I honestly think Trump has made this socially acceptable to many in that group. He has never,not one time, ever admitted fault. He stated in his book, " The Art of the Deal" to never admit fault, it's weakness. That dude has made some of the most outlandish claims and never,not one time admitted fault. He just attacks back and lies more and louder. We are seeing this same behavior emulated by his fanboys.
 
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Why in the world would they intentionally offend the largest religion in their own country?

Davincis Last Supper isn't even close to factual or realistic. None of those disciples or Jesus was a European White dude. Why in the world are you passionate about a painting.

I'm so tired of White, Male Christians trying to act like they've been persecuted. As I say all the time, other people getting more rights isn't diminishing your rights, unless you felt that it was your right to persecute others
Wow white male Christians ? You assume I'm white? What does color have to do with being a Christian? Christians of all colors are persecuted . And why are Christians so passionate about a painting? It wasn't just a painting it was real it happend . It wasn't made up . So yes when you mock a painting of Jesus Christ it offends me and every other Christian . No matter their color.
 
Not at all. Artists throughout history like to be provocative. I just am exhausted by the constant need for people to feel like they are victims. And while it does happen to White, Christian, Heterosexual Males, of which I am one lol, that group is currently the loudest protesters, and of times with extreme ignorance.

Take the Social Media posts about the Algerian Boxer, didn't matter how many times it was explained that this wasn't a Biological Male, they refused to back down, refused to admit they were wrong. Just keep bitching about it.

I honestly think Trump has made this socially acceptable to many in that group. He has never,not one time, ever admitted fault. He stated in his book, " The Art of the Deal" to never admit fault, it's weakness. That dude has made some of the most outlandish claims and never,not one time admitted fault. He just attacks back and lies more and louder. We are seeing this same behavior emulated by his fanboys.
Trump? Lol Trump is a man not God ,funny liberals all they can do is blame Trump lol what outlandish claim has Trump made enlighten us??that wasn't true??
 
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Wow white male Christians ? You assume I'm white? What does color have to do with being a Christian? Christians of all colors are persecuted . And why are Christians so passionate about a painting? It wasn't just a painting it was real it happend . It wasn't made up . So yes when you mock a painting of Jesus Christ it offends me and every other Christian . No matter their color.

I wasn't responding directly to you.

I am making a broad statement that white,male,straight,Christians in America have had all of the power for the entirety of America. We hardly have a right to claim we are discriminated against when other groups start to get some of the power we have had, basically forever in America.

And, as a Christian, if the Paris Olympics upset you this much, how do you feel about Presidential Candidates who claim to be Christian, but say that they never asked Jesus for forgiveness because they didn't need to?
 
He claims to be Christian and says he never asked God/Jesus for forgiveness.
Where did you see that claim? Do you know Trump's heart? Does anyone? No. But God does and that's the only Man he owes any explanation too. Not everyone believes in Jesus like I do is it my job to judge you? Nope just like I don't care who you vote for . does it make someone a bad person because they vote for someone who has literally done nothing for this country but laugh and draw circles? Nope . I chose to follow Christ and I believe in him. Doesn't mean anyone else has too and I don't persecute anyone who doesn't.and I won't ever vote for anyone who tries to take my Christianity away.
 
A story written by a journalist who doesn't know Trump's heart . And it was written before his assassination attempt.a story written in 2015 smh it's 2024 dude .

That's my point. Mad about a depiction that vaguely resembled a painting of Jesus, but fine with a guy saying he didn't ask Jesus for forgiveness but is Christian
 
Not at all. Artists throughout history like to be provocative. I just am exhausted by the constant need for people to feel like they are victims. And while it does happen to White, Christian, Heterosexual Males, of which I am one lol, that group is currently the loudest protesters, and of times with extreme ignorance.

Take the Social Media posts about the Algerian Boxer, didn't matter how many times it was explained that this wasn't a Biological Male, they refused to back down, refused to admit they were wrong. Just keep bitching about it.

I honestly think Trump has made this socially acceptable to many in that group. He has never,not one time, ever admitted fault. He stated in his book, " The Art of the Deal" to never admit fault, it's weakness. That dude has made some of the most outlandish claims and never,not one time admitted fault. He just attacks back and lies more and louder. We are seeing this same behavior emulated by his fanboys.
I partially agree, although I do think that “woke” is explicitly aimed at inverting the perceived and historical power imbalances so that alleged recipients of privilege in an oppressive system are officially disfavored.
 
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That's my point. Mad about a depiction that vaguely resembled a painting of Jesus, but fine with a guy saying he didn't ask Jesus for forgiveness but is Christian
That article was written in 2015 ,this is 2024, has no bearing on Trump today. I've heard it out of his mouth Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. Showing an article wrote is 2015 is a joke. Has Kamala Harris or Biden ever claimed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? Not even once . So again who has proof Trump has never asked forgiveness?? No one. Have you asked forgiveness??
 
That article was written in 2015 ,this is 2024, has no bearing on Trump today. I've heard it out of his mouth Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. Showing an article wrote is 2015 is a joke. Has Kamala Harris or Biden ever claimed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? Not even once . So again who has proof Trump has never asked forgiveness?? No one. Have you asked forgiveness??

Biden is a lifelong Catholic who regularly attend mass and has his whole life.

No clue on Kamala. I don't vote based on someone being a Christian or not. I have known plenty of wonderful,moral people who aren't Christian or religious at all.

I do find Trump and his fake Christianity galling. It is disgusting watch Christians support someone who is using them for their support and basically says he's a Christian to their face, while not once ever acting like a Christian. Not very Chritianlike to have an affair with a pornstar while your wife was pregnant.
 
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Biden is a lifelong Catholic who regularly attend mass and has his whole life.

No clue on Kamala. I don't vote based on someone being a Christian or not. I have known plenty of wonderful,moral people who aren't Christian or religious at all.

I do find Trump and his fake Christianity galling. It is disgusting watch Christians support someone who is using them for their support and basically says he's a Christian to their face, while not once ever acting like a Christian. Not very Chritianlike to have an affair with a pornstar while your wife was pregnant.
Dude you're lost to call someone a fake Christian when you know nothing about him or his heart. Biden a Catholic who has never proclaimed Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. Who cares what he did or didn't do in his past . I bet your past isn't so great either dude . By the way was you at those masses Biden attended? Or claimed to attended?? Was you there when Trump had this so called affair? Or did CNN and MSNBC tell you that??
 
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Not at all. Artists throughout history like to be provocative. I just am exhausted by the constant need for people to feel like they are victims. And while it does happen to White, Christian, Heterosexual Males, of which I am one lol, that group is currently the loudest protesters, and of times with extreme ignorance.

Take the Social Media posts about the Algerian Boxer, didn't matter how many times it was explained that this wasn't a Biological Male, they refused to back down, refused to admit they were wrong. Just keep bitching about it.

I honestly think Trump has made this socially acceptable to many in that group. He has never,not one time, ever admitted fault. He stated in his book, " The Art of the Deal" to never admit fault, it's weakness. That dude has made some of the most outlandish claims and never,not one time admitted fault. He just attacks back and lies more and louder. We are seeing this same behavior emulated by his fanboys.
As a white, heterosexual, Christian male, I agree. Great post.
 
Dude you're lost to call someone a fake Christian when you know nothing about him or his heart. Biden a Catholic who has never proclaimed Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. Who cares what he did or didn't do in his past . I bet your past isn't so great either dude . By the way was you at those masses Biden attended? Or claimed to attended?? Was you there when Trump had this so called affair? Or did CNN and MSNBC tell you that??
Isn’t that what you just did with Joe Biden? You said that he has never proclaimed Jesus as his Lord and Savior. Do you know that for a fact? Or, can practicing Catholics not be Christians? I’m just curious . By the way, I’m not a Biden or Trump supporter, so I’m not defending either. Just wondering how you can say that @yoshi121374 is lost for calling Trump a fake Christian, but you can say that about Biden.
 
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Isn’t that what you just did with Joe Biden? You said that he has never proclaimed Jesus as his Lord and Savior. Do you know that for a fact? Or, can practicing Catholics not be Christians? I’m just curious . By the way, I’m not a Biden or Trump supporter, so I’m not defending either. Just wondering how you can say that @yoshi121374 is lost for calling Trump a fake Christian, but you can say
Isn’t that what you just did with Joe Biden? You said that he has never proclaimed Jesus as his Lord and Savior. Do you know that for a fact? Or, can practicing Catholics not be Christians? I’m just curious . By the way, I’m not a Biden or Trump supporter, so I’m not defending either. Just wondering how you can say that @yoshi121374 is lost for calling Trump a fake Christian, but you can say that about Biden.
I never called Biden a fake Christian I said I've never once heard him say Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior . But I've heard Trump say it out of his own mouth. I never said a Catholic wasn't Christian I simply asked how could he call Trump a fake Christian when he's confessed out of his mouth. two different things when you call a man a fake Christian.
 
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As far as whether, when Christianity is the majority religion of the US and Europe, Christians can still be "persecuted," one need only ask if our elite culture is populated by people who have any interest in living like Christ. What I think people really mean when they say cite numerous Christianity as a proof against the idea that Christians can be persecuted in the West is that they simply don't think the persecution Christians do face is worth noting. But I also wonder if they're not just ignoring how much our culture has turned against even the idea that it's good that somebody would be a pious Christian over the last 10-12 years or so.
That's nice they let you get on TI from inside the gulag where they put all the Christians.
 
@tigerman1974 You literally said “Biden a Catholic who has never proclaimed Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.” You didn’t say that you’ve never heard him proclaim it.
 
You cannot be serious?
Don't you throw your shade at me Orange. I responded to the post for one reason only - to show the evidence that the artistic director himself said it was meant to depict the feast of Dionysus. You and others in this thread are posting your feelings about something you can't prove.

I am not here to mock anyone's religion nor do I even care what the scene was meant to depict because I'm not a snowflake. This is much ado about nothing so leave me out of it please.
 
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