Will the election be decided on election night?
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Ah understood your perspective, I'll still stand by mail in / drop off ballot is by far the best experience I've had, and would argue that it would provide access to more voters and more educated votes.
Take as much time as you need at the voting both.
If we don’t have secure elections, then we don’t really have elections do we? If people don’t trust the process we won’t have a country.
It’s not too much to ask to take 1 hour out of your day every four years to determine the direction of the country.
Everyone should want secure elections, it’s not a political stance. The only way to guarantee secure elections, at this point in time, is with paper ballots.
Very fair, I do very much want a secure election. I simply feel like a mail in/drop off ballot meets the threshold acceptable to me. When I lived in Western NY, all they did to "be secure" was to see if my signature matched some signature that's on file.
I'm also assuming I can't spend an hour at a voting booth, with my phone out as I'm looking up judge credibility or additional clarification on propositions or amendments. Maybe I'm mistaken and that's done, I just expect that would bring quite a bit of questioning and concern by volunteers at the voting booth.
And to be a bit blunt, I know my family in South Carolina aren't doing any research before hand. They're going to go in, look for an R, and select the box. Any propositions or amendments they won't even vote on unless it's about raising taxes.
Election day was just that, a day until 2020. All knew Biden couldn’t win legitimately in ‘20 so had to make it Election weeks. Go back to way it was pre-2020.
Nobody can still explain this ,with a straight face, how 6 swing states stopped counting on election night with Trump holding big leads in each. Then lo & behold, Biden came surging back in all of them in the dark of the night. Yeah, that seems legit.
Nobody can still explain this ,with a straight face, how 6 swing states stopped counting on election night with Trump holding big leads in each. Then lo & behold, Biden came surging back in all of them in the dark of the night. Yeah, that seems legit.
You are incredibly and willfully ignorant of the laws regarding how votes are counted.
I may be but because its been made hard to tabulate all votes on election night. Why would that be?
I would agree if these laws removed fraud but they don’t and have only opened up widespread doubt about elections not being secure & legit
I would agree if these laws removed fraud but they don’t and have only opened up widespread doubt about elections not being secure & legit
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You need to look no farther than California where the 5 most populous cities control the states politics.
Because many state legislatures - GOP controlled ones - want it that way. In my opinion, it's so they can lie to simpletons and sow doubt on normal election results.
Nearly half of states — including Florida, Ohio, and Texas — allow election officials to scan ballots into tabulators ahead of Election Day so that these ballots can be counted immediately and included in results on election night. (No state allows results to be released before then.)
The process is drastically different in a minority of states, including key election battlegrounds such as Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. In those states, election workers are, with few exceptions, prohibited from opening mail ballots before Election Day. Election officials in these states have begged their state legislatures for increased flexibility over the past few years and have been repeatedly rebuffed, including by many legislators who criticized slow counting in 2020 or backed claims that the vote count showed evidence of fraud.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...nt-mail-ballots-key-states-blame-legislatures
Another reason for paper ballots and ID on election day alone, except for military, elderly and US citizens out of country. That is the cleanest process possible
My brother in christ, people outside of cities do get to have a say in politics.
I'm curious how'd you prefer a state govern itself if not by focusing on the needs of a majority of people. It is the case that, mostly, that means cities have more political power, but what's the alternative? We've chosen to assign power to individuals in our system of government.
They can't answer this because it doesn't fit the narrative. The amount of willful ignorance is frightening.
I think we'd prefer to just have the coastal city be its own state (country ideally) that would destroy itself from within with its radical policies. We'd all be much better off. But then they'd probably leave the cities to move to red areas because they will complain about taxes, homelessness, etc etc...
Just chortling at the idea that people would be fleeing from Charleston County to move to Colleton County because liberal cities are hellscapes.
I'm not saying they don't get a say. But it should be one person one vote.
So in Illinois there are some conservatives who want Chicago to be its own state. It would be a complete disaster for the rest of the state. Cities (and blue states) are major economic drivers. Red parts of states and the nation receive far more in federal money than they receive while blue areas put in far more than they get back.
The majority of people leaving California for red states are republican voters. It's why you see a larger % growth in California among Democrats than in Republicans, and in those red states it's why there's higher growth among Republican voters over the same time period.
It's much more likely, in your scenario, that the rural areas are the ones that are incapable of functioning. They simply won't have the economic output needed to have a functioning government or economy.
This is, of course, a fantasy that will never happen.
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