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Yellow Haired, Race Baiting, Mentally Deficient, Joy Reid has lost it! You’re Fired.

I don't love Joy Reid but what she's saying is absolutely true. The reason Republicans are fact-checked so much is simply because they lie so much. It all starts at the top with the biggest pathological liar this country has ever known and all his disciples spend all their time lying to make him right. For Republicans "Freedom of Speech" just means "Freedom to Lie"

dear @dpic73,

This was your statement about FACT CHECKING.

You should be honored that I NEVER FACT CHECK YOU.

The information you present I always assume to be incorrect and tainted and when I read the talks between you and other folks no matter what they say I am always leaning toward the side you are not on without even hearing both sides. That is a learned behavior based on your shooting constantly into the air and forest without a clear target.

Continue to post as one you will realize that influencing people takes skill and charm. At this moment I am NOT displaying that with you as I see no value in trying to convince you of anything such as water is wet, and gravity pulls down not up.

Keep posting as it is the American way and the one gift an adversary or person debating with me can shower me with is being ridiculous in their positions.

I want to Thank you for gifting me such a marvelous gift.

Cordially,

Pappy
 
dear @dpic73,

This was your statement about FACT CHECKING.

You should be honored that I NEVER FACT CHECK YOU.

The information you present I always assume to be incorrect and tainted and when I read the talks between you and other folks no matter what they say I am always leaning toward the side you are not on without even hearing both sides. That is a learned behavior based on your shooting constantly into the air and forest without a clear target.

Continue to post as one you will realize that influencing people takes skill and charm. At this moment I am NOT displaying that with you as I see no value in trying to convince you of anything such as water is wet, and gravity pulls down not up.

Keep posting as it is the American way and the one gift an adversary or person debating with me can shower me with is being ridiculous in their positions.

I want to Thank you for gifting me such a marvelous gift.

Cordially,

Pappy
If you believe the information I'm presenting is incorrect, I'd be honored if you WOULD fact-check me. Do you not find it odd that despite many on your side calling me a liar, you never prove it? Is it because you can't disprove it or you don't know where to find the truth because you only trust the fake news echo chamber? I posit that it's both but please take your shot!
 
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If you believe the information I'm presenting is incorrect, I'd be honored if you WOULD fact-check me. Do you not find it odd that despite many on your side calling me a liar, you never prove it? Is it because you can't disprove it or you don't know where to find the truth because you only trust the fake news echo chamber? I posit that it's both but please take your shot!

You seriously think this? It's a demonstrably false statement though there's no way to filter your posts because your history is not visible. So to demonstrate this over and over again, we'd have to filter through all the crap TigerGrowls posts and no one has that amount of time except TigerGrowls. LOL
 
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dear @dpic73,

This was your statement about FACT CHECKING.

You should be honored that I NEVER FACT CHECK YOU.

The information you present I always assume to be incorrect and tainted and when I read the talks between you and other folks no matter what they say I am always leaning toward the side you are not on without even hearing both sides. That is a learned behavior based on your shooting constantly into the air and forest without a clear target.

Continue to post as one you will realize that influencing people takes skill and charm. At this moment I am NOT displaying that with you as I see no value in trying to convince you of anything such as water is wet, and gravity pulls down not up.

Keep posting as it is the American way and the one gift an adversary or person debating with me can shower me with is being ridiculous in their positions.

I want to Thank you for gifting me such a marvelous gift.

Cordially,

Pappy
Dear Pappy,

This is Popa (that's what i'm called). Do not waste your time. You're much too smart for this.
 
You seriously think this? It's a demonstrably false statement though there's no way to filter your posts because your history is not visible. So to demonstrate this over and over again, we'd have to filter through all the crap TigerGrowls posts and no one has that amount of time except TigerGrowls. LOL
Here we go again calling me a liar and now your excuse is you can't filter my posts, though I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're telling me you'd have to go deep into my history to find a lie, that tells me you aren't that confident either.

So let me just say for the 100th time - I care that what I say is true because I don't want to add to the cloud of misinformation, so I try to make sure I have back-up before I say anything. If I did lie, it wasn't intentional and I would happily apologize if it was proven.

But let's be clear, your opinion doesn't make me a liar.
 
You seriously think this? It's a demonstrably false statement though there's no way to filter your posts because your history is not visible. So to demonstrate this over and over again, we'd have to filter through all the crap TigerGrowls posts and no one has that amount of time except TigerGrowls. LOL
Similar to people getting waste and fraud confused, people seem to get disagreement or someone being wrong, etc confused with someone lying.

There are facts (X happened at X o clock, so and so stated X, etc) and there are opinions (so and so is acting like a fascist or X is dumb or X is trying to doom democracy, etc). Someone having a false opinion or incorrectly predicting the future? Both not lying.

I often disagree with Dp on how far he takes some opinions, but daily people yell “liar” at him without sharing articles that refute the facts. They interpret events differently, predict different outcomes, all the time. Still different from lies.
 
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Here we go again calling me a liar and now your excuse is you can't filter my posts, though I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're telling me you'd have to go deep into my history to find a lie, that tells me you aren't that confident either.

So let me just say for the 100th time - I care that what I say is true because I don't want to add to the cloud of misinformation, so I try to make sure I have back-up before I say anything. If I did lie, it wasn't intentional and I would happily apologize if it was proven.

But let's be clear, your opinion doesn't make me a liar.
You're not a liar per se, you just promote lies from the media. That's what makes you a liar.

You're either too brain dead, or you actually believe it. There's no fixing you.
 
You're not a liar per se, you just promote lies from the media. That's what makes you a liar.

You're either too brain dead, or you actually believe it. There's no fixing you.
The media doesn't control my thoughts and opinions as I'm a voracious reader and I take in many sources from all sides, including books.

My opinions are my own and I don't speak for anyone but myself and as @UrHuckleberry pointed out, sometimes I go too far because I'm constantly subjected to insults on this board from people like you and I have a hard time being as diplomatic as he is, but that just makes me an asshole (at times), not a liar.

IMO, calling me names and insulting me is an attempt to shut me up because you don't like what I have to say but you know you can't disprove it so it's an intimidation tactic to quiet me. If you really want to quiet me, don't tell lies and I won't challenge you.
 
Here we go again calling me a liar and now your excuse is you can't filter my posts, though I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're telling me you'd have to go deep into my history to find a lie, that tells me you aren't that confident either.

So let me just say for the 100th time - I care that what I say is true because I don't want to add to the cloud of misinformation, so I try to make sure I have back-up before I say anything. If I did lie, it wasn't intentional and I would happily apologize if it was proven.

But let's be clear, your opinion doesn't make me a liar.

I don't think you're a liar. I think you truly believe everything you post. I just wish you understood some of what you post just isn't true. That doesn't make you a liar though.

And as for your history, you have some kind of EU protection on your account. I can't view your profile or your posting history. If I could, I could look up some of the things you've stated that are just flat false. And again, I am not saying you are a liar. Everything comes from a perspective for everyone who posts here. We all do that because we feel strongly about our views. A lot of people who love politics choose sources that reinforce what they think and then call that fact... but it isn't.
 
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The media doesn't control my thoughts and opinions as I'm a voracious reader and I take in many sources from all sides, including books.

My opinions are my own and I don't speak for anyone but myself and as @UrHuckleberry pointed out, sometimes I go too far because I'm constantly subjected to insults on this board from people like you and I have a hard time being as diplomatic as he is, but that just makes me an asshole (at times), not a liar.

IMO, calling me names and insulting me is an attempt to shut me up because you don't like what I have to say but you know you can't disprove it so it's an intimidation tactic to quiet me. If you really want to quiet me, don't tell lies and I won't challenge you.
So you're saying you always tell the truth, and everyone else is wrong?

I have called you names in the past Tinkerbell, but the last thing I would want you to do is be quiet. I would like for you to speak at least 100 times a day. That way everyone sees what I see.

You're losing your talking heads though. It appears Joy Reid is out at MSNBC. Who will you follow next?
 
So you're saying you always tell the truth, and everyone else is wrong?

I have called you names in the past Tinkerbell, but the last thing I would want you to do is be quiet. I would like for you to speak at least 100 times a day. That way everyone sees what I see.

You're losing your talking heads though. It appears Joy Reid is out at MSNBC. Who will you follow next?
Lol. Why can't you comprehend that your statement is ridiculous.....always telling the truth and everyone else wrong are not two sides of the same coin. Think about it Tinkerboob.

And it's so childish to find such joy in Joy appearing to be let go. I've never watched her but apparently a talking black woman with blond hair upsets you. Sad.
 
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I don't think you're a liar. I think you truly believe everything you post. I just wish you understood some of what you post just isn't true. That doesn't make you a liar though.

And as for your history, you have some kind of EU protection on your account. I can't view your profile or your posting history. If I could, I could look up some of the things you've stated that are just flat false. And again, I am not saying you are a liar. Everything comes from a perspective for everyone who posts here. We all do that because we feel strongly about our views. A lot of people who love politics choose sources that reinforce what they think and then call that fact... but it isn't.

FWIW I can search his post history.
 
I don't think you're a liar. I think you truly believe everything you post. I just wish you understood some of what you post just isn't true. That doesn't make you a liar though.

And as for your history, you have some kind of EU protection on your account. I can't view your profile or your posting history. If I could, I could look up some of the things you've stated that are just flat false. And again, I am not saying you are a liar. Everything comes from a perspective for everyone who posts here. We all do that because we feel strongly about our views. A lot of people who love politics choose sources that reinforce what they think and then call that fact... but it isn't.
We will just have to agree to disagree because you have a different way of interpreting events that I will never understand. It doesn't mean you're always wrong but I can vividly remember things you lied about that you insisted were true without having facts to back them up - like persisting in telling a falsehood about a school in your district that had a litter box for students who identified as furries. I would have immediately stopped to fact-check something like that before continuing to argue about it, but you didn't - you just kept on pushing the lie.

I don't remember putting any protection on my posts but if I did, I don't remember how I did it. But that shouldn't prevent you from finding a lie because I've posted in many threads on this board that you can easily access. If I lie a lot, it should be easy to find one in the first few pages on this forum. But why it's so important for you to do that, I don't understand because a poster shouldn't be subjected to personal attacks because you don't like what they say. Palmetto accused me of lying in this thread so he should be the one proving it - not the mob.
 
So you're saying you always tell the truth, and everyone else is wrong?

I have called you names in the past Tinkerbell, but the last thing I would want you to do is be quiet. I would like for you to speak at least 100 times a day. That way everyone sees what I see.

You're losing your talking heads though. It appears Joy Reid is out at MSNBC. Who will you follow next?
I said I care that what I say is true and I do make an effort to be sure that I'm not lying but that doesn't mean that I don't get it wrong on occasion. I'm not a perfect person in any way shape or form, but I do have a moral compass and telling the truth matters to me. That's why it's aggravating arguing with someone like you who doesn't care about the truth and willingly believes all of the propaganda people like Growls and CUTiger1997 post here. No matter how absurd it is, you react to their nonsense like it's factual when we know you haven't made any attempt to fact-check them. They don't care if their propaganda is true but you accept it and rage about it even though it's trash.
 
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We will just have to agree to disagree because you have a different way of interpreting events that I will never understand. It doesn't mean you're always wrong but I can vividly remember things you lied about that you insisted were true without having facts to back them up - like persisting in telling a falsehood about a school in your district that had a litter box for students who identified as furries. I would have immediately stopped to fact-check something like that before continuing to argue about it, but you didn't - you just kept on pushing the lie.

I don't remember putting any protection on my posts but if I did, I don't remember how I did it. But that shouldn't prevent you from finding a lie because I've posted in many threads on this board that you can easily access. If I lie a lot, it should be easy to find one in the first few pages on this forum. But why it's so important for you to do that, I don't understand because a poster shouldn't be subjected to personal attacks because you don't like what they say. Palmetto accused me of lying in this thread so he should be the one proving it - not the mob.

Again, I am not saying you're a liar. And I didn't lie about what you mentioned. That just never stops coming up. I conveyed something I was told from a source I trusted which ended up being false. I admitted as much, apologized and that I wouldn't do it again. Yet here we are years later and you're bringing it up. There's no there, there! That tells me you don't have a lot to go on.

My issue with folks like you can be depicted in the following snip-it from a piece done on the AfD.

"Today, the party can unequivocally be classified as far right. This umbrella term captures the growing links between “(populist) radical right” (illiberal-democratic) and “extreme right” (anti-democratic) parties and movements. Ideologically, the far right is characterised by nativism and authoritarianism.

Nativism is a xenophobic form of nationalism, which holds that non-native elements form a threat to the homogeneous nation-state. In Germany, nativism carries a historical legacy. “Völkisch nationalism” was one of the core ideas of the 19th and early 20th centuries that was broadly adopted by National Socialism to justify deportations and, ultimately, the Holocaust."

There's so much wrong with this because it just takes massive leaps that completely undercut its credibility. Wanting to protect the culture of a country/society isn't the same as being xenophobic. It's also not accurate to pin the holocaust on these views. Those were two different things. That's like saying driving a car will end up in a person driving through a crowd to cause a mass casualty event. Both involve driving but the extremes involved are too absurd to even link.

I don't know a ton about the AfD and what I do know does have some concerning elements to it. But again, when you allow unchecked immigration from places that do not culturally assimilate and it ends up impacting the quality of life in a country, there's going to be a reaction. We are seeing that now and if there had been a moderate and common sense approach, we wouldn't be here now. At some point, it would be great if we became intelligent enough to recognize these wild pendulum swings from one extreme to another aren't good for us as a society.
 
Similar to people getting waste and fraud confused, people seem to get disagreement or someone being wrong, etc confused with someone lying.

There are facts (X happened at X o clock, so and so stated X, etc) and there are opinions (so and so is acting like a fascist or X is dumb or X is trying to doom democracy, etc). Someone having a false opinion or incorrectly predicting the future? Both not lying.

I often disagree with Dp on how far he takes some opinions, but daily people yell “liar” at him without sharing articles that refute the facts. They interpret events differently, predict different outcomes, all the time. Still different from lies.
People have done it many times over the years. Even last week he lied and I pointed it out when he claimed I did something that i didnt do. He just lied to make a stupid point and tried to discredit me with the lie. Its what leftist do...
 
Again, I am not saying you're a liar. And I didn't lie about what you mentioned. That just never stops coming up. I conveyed something I was told from a source I trusted which ended up being false. I admitted as much, apologized and that I wouldn't do it again. Yet here we are years later and you're bringing it up. There's no there, there! That tells me you don't have a lot to go on.

My issue with folks like you can be depicted in the following snip-it from a piece done on the AfD.

"Today, the party can unequivocally be classified as far right. This umbrella term captures the growing links between “(populist) radical right” (illiberal-democratic) and “extreme right” (anti-democratic) parties and movements. Ideologically, the far right is characterised by nativism and authoritarianism.

Nativism is a xenophobic form of nationalism, which holds that non-native elements form a threat to the homogeneous nation-state. In Germany, nativism carries a historical legacy. “Völkisch nationalism” was one of the core ideas of the 19th and early 20th centuries that was broadly adopted by National Socialism to justify deportations and, ultimately, the Holocaust."


There's so much wrong with this because it just takes massive leaps that completely undercut its credibility. Wanting to protect the culture of a country/society isn't the same as being xenophobic. It's also not accurate to pin the holocaust on these views. Those were two different things. That's like saying driving a car will end up in a person driving through a crowd to cause a mass casualty event. Both involve driving but the extremes involved are too absurd to even link.

I don't know a ton about the AfD and what I do know does have some concerning elements to it. But again, when you allow unchecked immigration from places that do not culturally assimilate and it ends up impacting the quality of life in a country, there's going to be a reaction. We are seeing that now and if there had been a moderate and common sense approach, we wouldn't be here now. At some point, it would be great if we became intelligent enough to recognize these wild pendulum swings from one extreme to another aren't good for us as a society.
As far as your first paragraph goes, the difference is I wouldn't make such an extreme claim about something that wasn't verified by reliable sources and if I remember correctly, there were literally zero sources that corroborated the claim. I do commend you for apologizing though I feel like I remember you and @yoshi121374 going several rounds before you admitted it wasn't true.

As for the rest of your post, I'm unclear what I'm supposed to be arguing here but I'll take a stab at it. No matter how someone else defines far-right, Germans have a terrible history with those on that end of the political spectrum and have a good reason to resist it. Just because their platform doesn't seem as radical as the Nazis, I can completely understand why they wouldn't want to risk it because it's doubtful they would find out how extreme they could be until it was too late.

The immigration issue is a legitimate concern and I admitted that was the main reason the far-right was surging in this post from Feb 16.
The only reason that the right in Europe is having more recent success is because of immigration - without that, the right wouldn't stand a chance.

The center right party in Germany just won the election because of their stance on that issue alone, though the rest of their platform aligns more with the center left. The AfD did come in second due to the free publicity they received from Elon and Vance, but they still don't have much power due to the firewall.
 
People have done it many times over the years. Even last week he lied and I pointed it out when he claimed I did something that i didnt do. He just lied to make a stupid point and tried to discredit me with the lie. Its what leftist do...
Here again is where you should prove it instead of just saying it. I have no idea what you're talking about so I would appreciate you showing me the quote where I claimed you did something you didn't do. Please provide it and I will apologize if you prove that I lied about you. The people liking your post are only doing it because you're attacking me, not because they know what you're saying is true fyi.
 
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Here again is where you should prove it instead of just saying it. I have no idea what you're talking about so I would appreciate you showing me the quote where I claimed you did something you didn't do. Please provide it and I will apologize if you prove that I lied about you. The people liking your post are only doing it because you're attacking me, not because they know what you're saying is true fyi.
You just deny and deflect. I called you out when you did it and you just doubled down with the lie. This has happen a lot over the years and many people have called you out. People "like" the post because its true what im saying and they agree with what im saying. Many of them have called you out for telling lies and you do the same with them. They provide proof and you just deny and deflect and attack them. Ive been saying for some time now, all you have are lies and projections. Its the only plays in your playbook and lots of people here know it...
 
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Lol. Why can't you comprehend that your statement is ridiculous.....always telling the truth and everyone else wrong are not two sides of the same coin. Think about it Tinkerboob.

And it's so childish to find such joy in Joy appearing to be let go. I've never watched her but apparently a talking black woman with blond hair upsets you. Sad.
DAMN YOU'RE STUPID!

I pointed out that Joy Reid seems to have lost her job at MSNBC. I find inner joy in that, but I never posted it. She is a RACIST, plain and simple. If you ever watched her show you would know that. You claim you never watched her, but you have strong opinion on the subject.

The fact that she has blonde hair is total cultural appropriation. That's what she would say.
 
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