⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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I think this was part of that article posted earlier, but this is it. As Waters said, use common sense. Juror Moyer shoots it straight.
A convenient one as it happened shortly after Alex increased the insurance on the property.
I have not been able to follow the proceedings as much as I had hoped. I just haven't had the time. I did watch the verdict last night and sentencing this morning and probably 10-12 hrs of the trial collectively over the last several weeks, trying to zero in on specific interviews/exchanges I wanted to see. I did make a point to read some of the reporting from the trial pretty much everyday.
From what I saw of Clifton Newman, I thought he was outstanding. Just first class, professional, organized, fair and he seems like a wonderful human being. I'd like to learn more about him. He reminds me of my late grandfather who also grew up in Williamsburg County. To listen to Judge Newman, he sounds a lot like my late grandfather.
It's difficult to put any credibility into anything Alex Murdaugh says because he's a repeated, admitted, liar. And what a waste. Here's a guy who conservatively averaged at or above $1M in earnings for years, had a devoted wife, two boys, a good family name, security, stability, but made some very serious mistakes. I suspect if he survives in prison in the coming years, at some point he will confess, whether it be to inmates or someone in the media, etc. At some point, the jig will be up even for him. He has no business whatsoever in society. His life is effectively over. Newman could have dressed him down a lot more had he wanted to, but what's the point? Murdaugh's thoughts and comments do not appear to have any connection to reality.
I do not know if AM pulled the trigger. None of us know that. But based on everything I saw in recent weeks, everything I read, I'm certainly satisfied that the jury made the right decision and I take no issue with the sentencing handed down by Judge Newman this morning.
My hope is that the Murdaugh family will wrap their arms around Buster Murdaugh, who has his entire life ahead of him and can accomplish a lot if he'll have a relentless focus on building his own life. He watched his younger brother's troubles and now his father's, so he's seen firsthand the price of self-destruction. That's a young man who is in my thoughts tonight. My wife and I were out at dinner earlier and we talked about him and what he must be going through as he continues to deal with this nightmare. I'd sure like to see him have some success in the coming years.
Larry is here for accountability! The same way he boldly calls out Dabo for having an inept offensive for 2 years. It’s all about accountability for all, right?
That was a contractor that Alec stiffed on payment for work.
It’s a “I’m going to drag this out until I die and hope people question my guilt as time goes on”.
ABC doing a good job....also pointed out well that Paul was killed two days before Alex was going to have to go to court for a hearing requested by the Beach's attorney to make Alex release his financial records.
Alex said he was broke and could not pay the 10 million dollar settlement for the Beach's lawsuit.
That is why he killed Paul ...to make it go away. That hearing was cancelled and never held, Tinsley felt bad for him and backed off so it worked.
Alex said he was broke and could not pay the 10 million dollar settlement for the Beach's lawsuit.
That is why he killed Paul ...to make it go away. That hearing was cancelled and never held, Tinsley felt bad for him and backed off so it worked.
Tinsley is an honorable attorney. He has the true measure of AM now. He believes that this should have been a death penalty case because gambling beef sticks in prison over a football game is too good for AM.
Yes…….and wouldn’t we all want to know the answer to Judge Newman’s question: “What were you thinking when you decided to pull that trigger?” In his long career, he stated that no one has ever been able to “go there” and answer his question! Also, once again, just like in the horrific in the Mother Emmanuel AME Church massacre, South Carolina did us proud. The unbelievable restraint and grace shown by the congregation and community in that case, and the swift and sure accountability and Justice even of the privileged elite when they did wrong in this case, our state showed the rest of the country how to do Justice in the face of true tragedy. Even with the “mistakes” that were made, a shout out to Law Enforcement in a very difficult situation and praise and gratitude to the Judge and Prosecution team……and of course the jurors who “got it right“ by sacrificing 6+ weeks of their lives for a whopping $20 bucks a day. Please let the healing begin.
Tinsley will garnish AM's prison canteen funds. His days of betting Slim Jim's is about to be over.
If them jurors decide to make themselves public they could likely profit but that said…the constant complimentary reports from the people there that could see them on how attentive and engaged they were says a lot
Away from their lives, technology, communication..,basically living in a hole for 6 weeks outside of the court room. Well done by them
as appeal issues are thrown out by pundits, can someone refresh my memory about the financial crime evidence allowed
IIRC, judge initially ruled that ONLY the Faris case (Chris Wilson matter) info, which was brought to AM’s attention by the firm CFO on June 7, could be questioned or brought up by the State
then and again please correct me- only when Griffin on cross of a witness opened the door about all the other financial stuff - only then did Judge allow the entirety of the financial crimes to come in
is this correct? and if so, the only possible recourse may be ineffective assistance of counsel - which won’t happen in this case
any subsequent action - AM on stand etc was a result of opening the door to financial mess by defense
My gut feeling is that nothing will be changed on appeal
The Doyle case for federal 5th amendment violations - defense said yesterday that state wrongfully argued that AM didn’t come clean about kennel presence to police AFTER his arrest - might be interesting
I don’t do appeals but many times appellate courts say that some possible missteps were harmless error
all the bitching by defense about length of financial crime evidence was perhaps a mistake by them or maybe a calculated decision to muddy the waters
after all their whole case was “How could he do this to his family when they were talking about a chicken at 8:44?!?!”
IIRC, judge initially ruled that ONLY the Faris case (Chris Wilson matter) info, which was brought to AM’s attention by the firm CFO on June 7, could be questioned or brought up by the State
then and again please correct me- only when Griffin on cross of a witness opened the door about all the other financial stuff - only then did Judge allow the entirety of the financial crimes to come in
is this correct? and if so, the only possible recourse may be ineffective assistance of counsel - which won’t happen in this case
any subsequent action - AM on stand etc was a result of opening the door to financial mess by defense
My gut feeling is that nothing will be changed on appeal
The Doyle case for federal 5th amendment violations - defense said yesterday that state wrongfully argued that AM didn’t come clean about kennel presence to police AFTER his arrest - might be interesting
I don’t do appeals but many times appellate courts say that some possible missteps were harmless error
all the bitching by defense about length of financial crime evidence was perhaps a mistake by them or maybe a calculated decision to muddy the waters
after all their whole case was “How could he do this to his family when they were talking about a chicken at 8:44?!?!”
I'm certainly not suggesting they bring out the K-9 units to try to find the killers this many months later.
But the gaping lack of normal human behavior in the wake of such loss -- meaning, authentic belief that the killers are out there being supported by the natural, human, desperate desire to find them -- was just never there from anyone in the family that I can tell (and I could be missing something).
I don’t know the exact details but I do know that Newman expanded the scope because of defense counsel questioning.
I think they figured it out right after the roadside shooting.
Never said I expected them to immediately apologize.
Of course it's a difficult, horrible situation for them.
But as the judge said, accurately, Alex's case was simply not remotely credible. He's a monster.
If John Marvin and Buster want to continue long-term with their public stance on this case being on-the-stand court support of a monster, that's certainly their choice. And you're certainly free to have no problem with it while calling me crazy.
But I have some reservations about it. And I'd imagine the two murdered family members would have some reservations about it too if they could speak from their graves.
I think I recall her sister recalling that Alex never seemed all that interested in finding the "real" killers.
No but I think Sled was watching them like a hawk because they did not trust Poot and the Murdaugh family
JMM seemed so...causal on the stand. Happy go lucky almost. Sure he cried a little here and there but I the persona he presented seemed odd to me.
But I give these people the benefit of the doubt. What conflicted feelings they must have.
Big Red really did a number on his entire family, nuclear and extended, and much of Hampton County peeps.
Believe Paul has spoken from the grave
Yes one of the many profound things said by the judge yesterday was the "You had a tiger on your tail in Tinsley who was going to bring some truly embarrassing/shattering revelations through discovery in the Beach case" (paraphrased)
JMM certainly presents himself as a good guy, but I have a hard time reconciling him towing away the evidence the morning after the boating accident.
I guess we'll get to hear his explanation for that in time.
As the judge said, this whole family has controlled the wheels of justice in that community for a century. Hard for me to give a whole lot of benefit of the doubt based on that history, and based on the facts we know.
Certainly possible that one of them was. I don't know. Also possible that someone else was there.
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Juror had emailed one or possibly two people about the case and might have expressed an opinion about the case
Judge dismissed for emailing anything and not the substance of the email
Apparently, this family has been covering up things for generations, so it's probably ingrained to keep everything in the family. Ran across this podcast last weekend where the guy talks about the family having multigenerational shame, it's two parts but an interesting listen about the family history from a psychologist perspective...
So not being sequestered, jurors were forbidden from any social media contact for any reason??
Yup. He admitted being an addict. Insurance companies will drop him for that.
Since it was already well established by AM himself that he lied about being at the kennels, the jury already knew he was a liar. The evidence that his stealing $790K had been exposed was also established. So the litany of financial cases that further emphasized that he is a liar and a thief probably isn’t going to be weighed heavily as a reason to grant an appeal, because the outcome, which was most affected by the video, wouldn’t have changed.
Is Tinsley now going to sue Buster for everything and ruin his life when he didn’t really have anything to do with the boat case? I know Buster is a cheat but I feel sorta bad for him if he’s on the hook for 10 million that the family doesn’t even have. Does a bank loan Buster 10 million to pay Tinsley or how does that work?
Seems like Paul being dead is pretty good justice for Mallory.
Seems like Paul being dead is pretty good justice for Mallory.
He'd have gotten it when he bought the home. You are required to have home insurance policy anytime you have a mortgage on the house. My policy would pay for an accident like that.
They should have been annoyed frankly. The 911 operator is asking investigative questions.
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Paul used Buster's ID to buy the alcohol.
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