Always with the gaslighting and lies M.Obama
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Not really gaslighting when Multiple States have tried to pass laws outlawing it. The Southern Baptist Convention has just come out against it as well.
Project 2025 is also against IVF and it was written and developed by people close to or previous employees of Donald Trump.
Requires some nuance and maybe some exageration, but it is fair to suggest that due to his Supreme Court judges those changes are coming to pass.
Congrats. Your reading comprehension skills on display for all of us. Another guy with a primary school education from the Deep South I presume.
You're cultivating the ground to fit your desired narrative. That's also known as a lie. It's most definitely gaslighting by any measure. His nominees to the court have been all over the place on things. Again, the desire for something to be true doesn't make it true.
The Obamas are masters of the lie. They tell it and make you feel good while they do it if you love them. It's the old backrub while they steal your wallet trick. Just awful stuff and this from people who live a life of the rich and famous by virtue of the fact one of them was in politics for a while. If anything tells us how bad and corrupt our politics have become, it's the Obamas.
You do realize both of them went to college,became successful lawyers, and also best selling authors?
They did some work to earn that money.
The Obamas are your example of what's bad with politics? Y'all try so hard to demonize them, there are literally 100s or other politicians and some Supreme Court judges who are examples of political corruption, but you choose them
Great role models who pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps and madly in love to boot. We should thank our lucky stars that we have them.
It's funny that you, and your fellow communist are only ever concerned about the SCOTUS when it does not rule in your favor.
In the words of your leader BHO, "Elections Have Consequences".
You just can't resist insults can you?
I'm concerned about the fact that Thomas has been gifted millions from a GOP lobbyist. Everyone should be concerned about that. We rely on the Supreme Court to be impartial and judge the law. They are the linchpin of our entire democracy.
Fir the record, I don't have any issues with Kavanaugh or Coney Barrett, they seem to be honest and try to apply the law and constitutional history.
Clarence Thomas not so much.
Seriously, a Trump supporter complaining about lies? REALLY?
FWIW, here, I actually agree. Trump never said that. But PLENTY of folks in his circle do say it. As is pointed out above, there have already been some shifts toward anti IVF from the Republican base. The key here is the belief that life begins at conception.
IF you belief that, it's difficult to support IVF. It is ROUTINE to fertilize more eggs than the parents EVER want to have. It's understood those eggs will be destroyed after the parents confirm they don't want more children. Also, it is routine to implant more eggs than the mother intends to have at once. Once implantation occurs the extra eggs are removed. By definition, that's intentional murder if you believe the above and the parents and everyone involved are complicit.
Ditto for lots of contraceptive methods. IUDs and even the pill work by not allowing a fertilized egg to implant in the uterus.
So it's not unreasonable to take the position the Obamas have here.
Does the M in the thread title stand for Michelle or Michael?
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My personal Christian values don't supersede others rights.
I don't know how I would react if my wives life had been in danger due to a pregnancy, or had she been raped, but I am not going to tell others what they are allowed to do in that situation.
I'm a moderate because I'm fiscally fairly conservative.
Then you should be attacking Bush for appointing Thomas. Not attacking Trump for appointing judges you admit rule fairly. Trump is NOT responsible for scotus decisions or state decisions. RvW was rightly a states issue. Trump has explicitly stated multiple times he does not support a national abortion ban.
If you watched the rnc, you heard trump he was in favor of exceptions for those very things.
I didn't say I liked than or agree with them, I merely said I didn't think they were corrupt.
However, how Republicans are taking the Overturn of Roe vs Wade is waaaayyy too far for me and most Americans. He is responsible for that due to the balance of the court. He can't take credit for appointments without also being liable for the consequences.
Your rights, or my rights don't supersede another person's rights.
"my wives life had been in danger due to a pregnancy, or had she been raped, but I am not going to tell others what they are allowed to do in that situation." How many "wives" do you have?
You would place your vote on the future of the country on abortion?
That is asinine. Scotus job is NOT to rule based on what the impact of the ruling may be. Their job is to rule on the constitutionality of the matter before them. Are you saying they should rule contrary to the constitution to produce the outcome some people want? That's like saying a criminal court judge is responsible for ruining a kids life for putting their parent in jail for committing a crime.
Look, I don't agree with some of the states abortion laws. However, I also don't agree with many blue state laws.
You can still have an abortion @yoshi121374. No one is stopping you from that.
You will vote for the entire destruction of the country so you can have an abortion?
#hyperbole
Who said I was voting just due to the abortion laws?
I will never vote for Donald Trump. He's a narcissist who never met someone he didn't try to cheat from or on.
Why don't you just keep talking. The more you talk, the more people understand how stupid you are.
Who did Trump cheat from, or on?
Dude, you can't be serious?
How about all 3 of his wives? The last one with a porn star. He's notorious for cheating at golf. He got his charity in NY closed down b/c he used the money for personal gain. He was convicted of 31 felonies related to his hush money payments to said porn star... Looking to cover up his actions so he could get elected... essentially cheating.
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