Love those type of people. So weak willed and intellectually lazy.
Sad thing is that people like him are what is destroying this country, and not people like Kap
Colin Kaepernick and Nike at it again
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Love those type of people. So weak willed and intellectually lazy.
Sad thing is that people like him are what is destroying this country, and not people like Kap
I'm not going to say anything close to that, but I do think the culture shouldn't be entirely left to squeaky progressive wheels. People probably could pick their battles a little better.
No, not when those categories contradict one another. You can't want women to have greater rights, and also want to bring a massive population of Muslims into the country. Muslims don't believe in women having things remotely resembling "rights".
You can't be anti-gun because the children are dying, and also be pro-choice...because the children are dying.
You can't live in a mansion, own a couple vacation homes, and a private jet, and also claim that "rich people are the problem", unless of course you're referring to yourself, which is never the case. You can't let Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton rack up millions in unpaid taxes, and then complain about others not paying their "fair share" of taxes. You can't put a wall around your home or subdivision to keep people out, but claim that a wall on our border would not work.
Basically, you can't be a hypocritical idiot and expect anyone with any amount of intelligence to agree with you.
I think all his and any celebrities influence is questionable or worse. People are ok with celebrities speaking when they agree with them tho. I have no idea who those people are in reality. Kap could be a monster behind closed doors. I'm choose to do my own thinking.
I question the radical ideas of Americans telling other Americans how to American. That's all.
What if the people's positions on those things just look obviously contradictory to you because you don't quite understand their reasons for believing what they believe? You might still think their reasons are wrong, but they still have their reasons. That's why you need to address what somebody's saying instead of bringing up red herrings.
I'm sure you also make more specific judgments, though. I think we're often too legalistic about what we think, because we so reflexively think about rights rather than right and wrong. So why not say when you think a celebrity is right about something and when you think a celebrity is wrong, especially when that celebrity inserts themselves into our politics?
You missed my point. My point is just because he likes Castro doesn't mean he's wrong about everything. I'm talking to those dismissing anything he says because of the shirt or socks.
I do very well financially but I question those of my ilk. I try to do things a certain way but I'm not going to stop achieving because there is a clear imbalance in the system and neither should you.
Without the rich standing up for the poor against other in their ilk the poor wouldn't have gotten very far. Just because they are rich doesn't mean they are hypocrites. That's ridiculous and hilarious. There are some rich and poor hypocrites.
I'm ok with that. Again I specifically mentioned the folks that are not consistent. I'm ok with people believing what they want. I see far too many people saying celebrities should shut up and then quoting celebrities when they agree. Like you said freely agree or disagree without citing there celebrity one way or the other. Too many among us will agree with someone because of their celebrity. No research. I do everything I can to avoid that. I'll seek more educated opinion unless that celebrity happens to be versed enough in that matter.
Never thought I would see a multibillion dollar company held hostage by one person who has absolutely zero authority.
So because I think all of you are overly sensitive and hate on CK and Nike because they stand for something you disagree with, means I'm what's wrong with the country? Yikes.
This country needs more people that keep their head down, work hard, stay out of other people's business, and don't mind when others have a different point of view. More of the middle.
People like you are blinded by their hatred for anything threatening.
You do realize that the "40 acres" was an order from General Sherman to the black community in Savannah. It was never a promise or proposal from the US Government. It was a way for Sherman to get the former slaves to fight on the side of the US and as a land grab for military purposes in coastal South Carolina and Georgia as part of expanding the naval blockade all the way past Savannah. The land was only between the coast and some distance inland with navigable waters and waterfront.
It was never a promise of reparations and it never had the force of the US government. It wasn't even land that the US Government had control of at the time. That is some revisionist history by the folks now trying to gin up the reparations talk.
Lol I’m not even 40.
Forgive me, I’m just an ole vet who appreciates the best country in the world.
What I think you're missing is that the good people you like who "keep their head down, work hard, stay out of other people's business, and don't mind when others have a point of view different than their own" end up getting steamrolled and erased by the people who work hard at being in other people's business. There really isn't an option where nobody cares about anything and we somehow get a society we like, unless you're really not into democracy.
Also, this isn't really about being "offended."
There was a great PBS show on it during their Civil War series. Sherman even was so "benevolent" to promise them military protection until they could defend themselves. Conveniently the only white people allowed in that area were US military officers and soldiers. It was an order for a land seizure and military occupation.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-am...history/the-truth-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule/
You say that, but I have yet to be or know anyone who has been steamrolled. You're just scared of change. I get that.
People still overreact.
Ah. I should've predicted this, but the truth finally comes out: you think the people you disagree with should keep their head down and not get involved in other people's business, while you apparently believe the "change" you like just happens naturally and automatically.
Not at all. If you'd stop trying to figure me out you might get more out of what I'm trying to say.
I'm not talking about my opinion on the matter. Have you not noticed that? I'm not voicing a stance other than that you are all overreacting to something that doesn't affect you.
Typically in these political pissing contest threads, I just avoid. This is why. Everyone wants to figure out what side everyone else is on so they know who they're fighting.
What? Rumors of General Sh**man doing something criminal, dishonest, or selfish? Say it aint so. He should have been hanged by the neck until declared dead.
A person cannot blame his shortcomings on oppression while promoting a guy that was actually oppressive. Sorry but that shows me perhaps CK does not realize what being oppressed really means. I do not see how his stance on America and his support of Castro are different subjects.
I don’t hate anyone. And while you keep your head down this countries politicians will slowly strip away your freedoms and constitutional rights as well as sell you out to other countries. See California politicians in relation to China or the dozens of other examples spread out across our Country.
I will admit I generalized with you, and it’s not necessarily on this issue alone. I just believe we as citizens have an obligation to our ancestors to hold the government accountable for all the BS they do. The only way to do this is stay informed and vocalize your opinion.
Most people are generally scared to voice their opinion in today’s age and that is the scariest thing in the world IMO
I am not offended. I will just simply spend my hard earned money on things other than Nike. Your wallet will always talk louder than anything you can say.
I'll check that out when I can. I always believed that it was an official thing. Sherman had the power to make that order so I understood and it should've been binding. In any case it was quickly found to not hold water for reasons I'm sure I'll find when reading that link.
I guess the slaves expected some honest and fair treatment. Yes I'm laughing. Again, my whole point in mentioning this makes this very interesting but largely irrelevant. I appreciate the education. Really I do. If you go back and read my initial mention of it it was only to point out that the idea or thought of reparations is not an original one by those asking for it now. People love to blame millennials or this new soft generation for everything. Only pointing out that this wasn't their doing. Definitely going to educate myself with that link tho. Thanks.
When did he blame his shortcomings on anything? He cited a gross difference in how black folks were treated by law enforcement compared to their white brothers and sisters. You can argue this to be true or not and it had zero to do with whether you agree if you like Castro.
I should have predicted you'd back out of the conversation once you realized you weren't going to win.
That is NOT what is happening here or what this particular situation is about. It is about a far left radical agenda and movement. This movement HATES this country and its founding, and the Founding fathers and all associated documents and the constitution. They are attempting to uproot the founding principles of what made up the greatest nation on earth and redefine and reinvent this country to be a socialist/fascist type of nation. Sure we have flaws in our history, what nation doesn't? But what they are tying to build has shown to be failures all over this globe. Yet, stupidly and ignorantly, they thing they have it right now.
I am just hoping that the majority of this nation can get together and stop this insane radical (politically correct) movement. I do feel if the right and moderates to indeed overcome this and keep this great democracy (republic) intact, that the far radical left and youths will start violent protests and civil uprisings, just like you see in Europe. Could be quite a terrible time coming if so.
Fair point, but like with all things it’s starts in the private sphere and shifts to the public. If people don’t show outrage over this within just a few short years the flag will be banned.
And you can’t argue that is not true. 10 years ago would you have ever dreamed of guys playing girls sports, pedo enabling (google pedo advocates, and see all the major news networks trying to defend it), as well as fighting for open borders and a long list of other nonsense. If you keep your head in the sand all this will come true bc they will just label the ones actually voicing their opinions as bigots bc the silent majority is too afraid to speak up and they know it.
Mind your own business, but don’t get mad at others who adhere to what our founders wanted in regards to a well informed and vocal populace.
This is truly hilarious. Sharing power with former slaves or giving a bunch of women the right to vote were things that people that supposedly hate this country did before. There are almost 30 amendments amongst thousands of other changes to how this country operated. Many great things done by people at the time you would've said hated this country. Think about it. Your post would be disturbing if it wasn't so funny. Many staunch conservatives would disagree with your post and it's tone.
At no point have I or will I be mad. That's exactly what I'm trying to get you guys to not be.
And with that Im done ITT.
Isn’t that enough reason for him to stand and honor those men and women who died WEARING the very flag he protests?
You're the real MVP @KingBMich these people are out of their damn minds, on both "sides"
Ummm...no. Sports related.
And you tarnish the sanctity of TI italics with your foolhardy prediction. How dare you sir.
