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Communist Kamala Harris Refuses Debate. - Now Says Speech Must Be Regulated.

As I mentioned in another thread, it’s just wrong regardless of the income threshold. And once you invent an entirely new way to confiscate money from people, it’s much easier to slide that income threshold.

I’m glad Kamala hasn’t come out in favor, but given her past as the most liberal voting member of the senate, a supporter of Medicare for all and the green new deal, etc - I’m sure she will be on that side once her handlers get her through the election.

The capital gains tax is another insane idea supported by leftists like Kamala. And of course tax increases on people already paying more than their fair share. But the GP dems lap it up because it won’t affect them.
Quit telling us what her positions are after she's already said she no longer supports Medicare for all and the Green New Deal. We get it that you're a one issue voter but to say she will slide the unrealized capital gains tax down to your income level is just fear peddling. IF she does approve, it would affect less than 11,000 people and it would still have to get through Congress and that's not likely given how unpopular the idea is on both sides. It's obvious that she's evolved and she positioned herself squarely as a centrist last night, so enough with the scare tactics.
 
She hasn't said she supports the unrealized capital gains proposal but none of it matters anyway unless you make 100 million or more, so enough with the drama.

To further elaborate on this. It only would hypothetically affect you if you have $100m/year or more in unrealized gains. Following that, those taxes are then offset when the profit is realized/actualized. So it’s essentially speeding up the tax process and preventing investors/firms from kicking the can.

That being said, I think it’s bad policy - there are much better ways to tax the top .1%.
 
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Quit telling us what her positions are after she's already said she no longer supports Medicare for all and the Green New Deal. We get it that you're a one issue voter but to say she will slide the unrealized capital gains tax down to your income level is just fear peddling. IF she does approve, it would affect less than 11,000 people and it would still have to get through Congress and that's not likely given how unpopular the idea is on both sides. It's obvious that she's evolved and she positioned herself squarely as a centrist last night, so enough with the scare tactics.

Look I get that the “she’s changed” thing has worked on you and the other true believers. But we know who she is at her core based on her history. She has the democrat strategy tank shaping every position and every message right now to angle towards winning an election. I don’t believe for a minute that she’s had some personal revelation that has transformed her far left core beliefs.

And the unrealized gains is just one issue. The lefties also want to reshape capital gains tax, and that could affect people like me. And we know they want to jack up taxes on people already paying a fortune and far more than their fair share.

All of these efforts to confiscate more money just speaks to a broader philosophical difference. The left wants to take take take more and more from hardworking Americans who have earned a good position in life to fuel their big government desires. I fundamentally believe government should be a very small part of your life, both in how much you rely on it and how much it takes from you.
 
To further elaborate on this. It only would hypothetically affect you if you have $100m/year or more in unrealized gains. Following that, those taxes are then offset when the profit is realized/actualized. So it’s essentially speeding up the tax process and preventing investors/firms from kicking the can.

That being said, I think it’s bad policy - there are much better ways to tax the top .1%.
The income tax, when first implemented, was progressive between 1 and 7%.

It won’t stop at $100mm and we all know it.
 
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The longer you invest the better chance you have of being successful.

Why would we discourage long term investing if short term investing leads to worse outcomes?
 
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Look I get that the “she’s changed” thing has worked on you and the other true believers. But we know who she is at her core based on her history. She has the democrat strategy tank shaping every position and every message right now to angle towards winning an election. I don’t believe for a minute that she’s had some personal revelation that has transformed her far left core beliefs.

And the unrealized gains is just one issue. The lefties also want to reshape capital gains tax, and that could affect people like me. And we know they want to jack up taxes on people already paying a fortune and far more than their fair share.

All of these efforts to confiscate more money just speaks to a broader philosophical difference. The left wants to take take take more and more from hardworking Americans who have earned a good position in life to fuel their big government desires. I fundamentally believe government should be a very small part of your life, both in how much you rely on it and how much it takes from you.
Yawn, we get it, you don't like paying more in taxes. Unfortunately we've also handicapped ourselves by adding trillions to the deficit because of the Trump tax cuts that benefitted you personally but harmed all of us in the long-term. Those have to be paid back somehow whether you like it or not but if you have a magic pill that will make it all go away, please run for office.

She gave a damn good speech last night that had to be better than anyone on the Right could have hoped for, so just breathe and be thankful that she didn't make any radical proposals. You may not get everything you want if she's elected but it appears you won't be as harmed as you imagined either.
 
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Yawn, we get it, you don't like paying more in taxes. Unfortunately we've also handicapped ourselves by adding trillions to the deficit because of the Trump tax cuts that benefitted you personally but harmed all of us in the long-term. Those have to be paid back somehow whether you like it or not but if you have a magic pill that will make it all go away, please run for office.

She gave a damn good speech last night that had to be better than anyone on the Right could have hoped for, so just breathe and be thankful that she didn't make any radical proposals. You may not get everything you want if she's elected but it appears you won't be as harmed as you imagined either.

The last damn good speech got us Obama. He is still running things and he has left things in disarray. We have no President for 6 months!

Spare us the good speeches. We were roaring under Trump and inflation was 1.9%.

Instead your grocery bill has exploded. The cost of shelter as a % of your income has exploded. Inflation got up to 9% under her admin.

I don’t care what her speech said, I care about the actions of the last 4 years!
 
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Oh yeah, and she was the border czar at which she failed miserably. Lead Democrats were begging for mercy.
 
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The last damn good speech got us Obama. He is still running things and he has left things in disarray. We have no President for 6 months!

Spare us the good speeches. We were roaring under Trump and inflation was 1.9%.

Instead your grocery bill has exploded. The cost of shelter as a % of your income has exploded. Inflation got up to 9% under her admin.

I don’t care what her speech said, I care about the actions of the last 4 years!
Enough with your nonsense propaganda

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Yawn, we get it, you don't like paying more in taxes. Unfortunately we've also handicapped ourselves by adding trillions to the deficit because of the Trump tax cuts that benefitted you personally but harmed all of us in the long-term. Those have to be paid back somehow whether you like it or not but if you have a magic pill that will make it all go away, please run for office.

She gave a damn good speech last night that had to be better than anyone on the Right could have hoped for, so just breathe and be thankful that she didn't make any radical proposals. You may not get everything you want if she's elected but it appears you won't be as harmed as you imagined either.

You’re a smart guy. I’m actually surprised that you have become smitten with Kamala after dem strategists reshaped her public policy positions and she gave a good speech, also guided by dem strategists. I completely understand voting against Trump. But I’m genuinely surprised that smart folks like you actually seem enthusiastic about Kamala.
 
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You’re a smart guy. I’m actually surprised that you have become smitten with Kamala after dem strategists reshaped her public policy positions and she gave a good speech, also guided by dem strategists. I completely understand voting against Trump. But I’m genuinely surprised that smart folks like you actually seem enthusiastic about Kamala.

I am enthusiastic about the fact that she will keep us from having 4ore years of Trump, and maybe, just maybe allow the real adults to take back that party. I'm so tired of the constant negativity and pessimism. Trump is literally the old man yelling at clouds.

I am not a fan of some of the far left ideas,but I also realize that they are talking points and ideals. They also have shown a willingness to negotiate, which is what the government is all about.
 
I am enthusiastic about the fact that she will keep us from having 4ore years of Trump, and maybe, just maybe allow the real adults to take back that party. I'm so tired of the constant negativity and pessimism. Trump is literally the old man yelling at clouds.

I am not a fan of some of the far left ideas,but I also realize that they are talking points and ideals. They also have shown a willingness to negotiate, which is what the government is all about.
Maybe you should focus on taking back your own party first. That is extremely rich.
 
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Remember 4000 democrats chose the candidate.

4000 out of a theoretical “81 million” is 0.00005%

0.00005% of democrats vote meant something everyone else doesn’t mean shit to them.
 
Remember 4000 democrats chose the candidate.

4000 out of a theoretical “81 million” is 0.00005%

0.00005% of democrats vote meant something everyone else doesn’t mean shit to them.

Why do you care? Everyone will have a chance to vote in November and say how they feel about the candidates.
 
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You’re a smart guy. I’m actually surprised that you have become smitten with Kamala after dem strategists reshaped her public policy positions and she gave a good speech, also guided by dem strategists. I completely understand voting against Trump. But I’m genuinely surprised that smart folks like you actually seem enthusiastic about Kamala.
I can only go off what I've seen and heard and so far she's exceeded all my expectations. I don't know that I could hope for more in a candidate than what she's shown to this point. If she were a white middle aged man saying the same things, she'd likely have broader appeal, sad as that is to say. She's found her footing and comes across as a patriotic, tough and reasonable candidate that also has a chance of knocking off our national nightmare, so damn right I'm enthusiastic.
 
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I can only go off what I've seen and heard and so far she's exceeded all my expectations. I don't know that I could hope for more in a candidate than what she's shown to this point. If she were a white middle aged man saying the same things, she'd likely have broader appeal, sad as that is to say. She's found her footing and comes across as a patriotic, tough and reasonable candidate that also has a chance of knocking off our national nightmare, so damn right I'm enthusiastic.

Yep, the dem strategy machine has done a good job remolding her into something electable. It's worked like a charm on you.
 
Yep, the dem strategy machine has done a good job remolding her into something electable. It's worked like a charm on you.

Given the options, I trust the adults more than Donald Trump, particularly when nobody of seriousness wants to work for him.

I have some faith that the Dems at least have competent people who will do their jobs.

Frankly, I also am ready to turn the page on the MAGA movement in America. I don't want to see the next generation of Republicans echoing Donald Trump. I want him to lose and show everyone that MAGA is a losing strategy.
 
Yep, the dem strategy machine has done a good job remolding her into something electable. It's worked like a charm on you.
In other words, YOUR taxes might go up and that should matter more than any other thing. 😅
 
In other words, YOUR taxes might go up and that should matter more than any other thing. 😅

No, in other words, you should completely forget all of her previous policy positions, interviews, public statements and actions and only believe what you have heard in the last ~30 days. 😂
 
No, in other words, you should completely forget all of her previous policy positions, interviews, public statements and actions and only believe what you have heard in the last ~30 days. 😂
I would still be enthusiastic when compared to the alternative. Frum lays it out nicely.

 
Kamala's stance changes being genuine, or a fabrication of the DNC to improve her electability are a complete moot point. I'm not stupid enough to think she was ever communist/socialist adjacent, so her trying to cater to the non-MAGA wing of the Republican party is just good politics. I'm also not stupid enough to think she's completely incapable of changing her stance on topics as she learns more information/gets more experience governing - the former is something WE ALL have done.

That being said, I don't really care whichever it is since i'm a single issue voter and that single issue is ensuring MAGA doesn't get back in office.
 
Kamala's stance changes being genuine, or a fabrication of the DNC to improve her electability are a complete moot point. I'm not stupid enough to think she was ever communist/socialist adjacent, so her trying to cater to the non-MAGA wing of the Republican party is just good politics. I'm also not stupid enough to think she's completely incapable of changing her stance on topics as she learns more information/gets more experience governing - the former is something WE ALL have done.

That being said, I don't really care whichever it is since i'm a single issue voter and that single issue is ensuring MAGA doesn't get back in office.
Very reasonable take. Do think that if the people you're representing are California Liberals, you are likely to vote/govern/etc differently that if you are representing everyone.

That being said, she still wouldn't have been my choice. But given the remaining candidates, I don't even have to hold my nose I can enthusiastically vote for her over the alternative.
 
Very reasonable take. Do think that if the people you're representing are California Liberals, you are likely to vote/govern/etc differently that if you are representing everyone.

That being said, she still wouldn't have been my choice. But given the remaining candidates, I don't even have to hold my nose I can enthusiastically vote for her over the alternative.

Exactly. We should hope that our candidates put forth and support the issues that their constituents are most passionate about. That would certainly change based on the constituency one would assume.

We all know politics are about talking points and ideals, Governing is about compromise and working with a diversity of opinions and values to come up with a solution that is best for all.
 
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Millions of people have died for the right to vote and you are telling people not to care?

This isn't their right to vote, it's to nominate a candidate for a party.

Those people still get the right to vote.

Also fairly laughable that the party that does everything they can to keep people from voting tries to act like they give a shit
 
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She hasn't said she supports the unrealized capital gains proposal but none of it matters anyway unless you make 100 million or more, so enough with the drama.

Haha - who believes the LA Times?

It does not matter - it is the principle of all the massive tax increases. They are socialistic policies that put the government over people. The problem is that Kamala is wanting every Communist policy to be enacted to increase the power and government control over people. That is not America. And that is what you want in the Federal government.

She has said she supports it in the past. You do not care since you support Socialism and Communism in the country. It is a legitimate political policy and strategy but has failed everywhere it has been tried and always leads to massive corruption.

As Kennedy says - the Democrats are now the party of corruption - that is what we have today in the USA Federal government.
 
Quit telling us what her positions are after she's already said she no longer supports Medicare for all and the Green New Deal. We get it that you're a one issue voter but to say she will slide the unrealized capital gains tax down to your income level is just fear peddling. IF she does approve, it would affect less than 11,000 people and it would still have to get through Congress and that's not likely given how unpopular the idea is on both sides. It's obvious that she's evolved and she positioned herself squarely as a centrist last night, so enough with the scare tactics.
Kamala is a liar - she does support all of those Communist policies and if you think she has changed then you are an idiot.
 
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Kamala's stance changes being genuine, or a fabrication of the DNC to improve her electability are a complete moot point. I'm not stupid enough to think she was ever communist/socialist adjacent, so her trying to cater to the non-MAGA wing of the Republican party is just good politics. I'm also not stupid enough to think she's completely incapable of changing her stance on topics as she learns more information/gets more experience governing - the former is something WE ALL have done.

That being said, I don't really care whichever it is since i'm a single issue voter and that single issue is ensuring MAGA doesn't get back in office.
Tell us the reason - be specific - that you think that MAGA is all bad without saying BS racism. Give us the specific policy.
 
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Haha - who believes the LA Times?

It does not matter - it is the principle of all the massive tax increases. They are socialistic policies that put the government over people. The problem is that Kamala is wanting every Communist policy to be enacted to increase the power and government control over people. That is not America. And that is what you want in the Federal government.

She has said she supports it in the past. You do not care since you support Socialism and Communism in the country. It is a legitimate political policy and strategy but has failed everywhere it has been tried and always leads to massive corruption.

As Kennedy says - the Democrats are now the party of corruption - that is what we have today in the USA Federal government.
Lions and Commies and Bears O My!
Lions and Commies and Bears!
 
They lock up 12 year olds. Glorifying their backwards country, which produces nothing of note for the world, is unamerican. No matter who is president.
12 year old thug hoodlums? Lock em up.

Safest country in the world right now. Got rid of the gangs quickly!
 
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Tell us the reason - be specific - that you think that MAGA is all bad without saying BS racism. Give us the specific policy.
MAGA doesn't have policies - they have grievances and empty platitudes.

Project 2025 is a catastrophe that should never happen.
Trump's Tariff proposal is idiotic and will do more damage than good
MAGA had the office for 4 years and ran on repealing and replacing the ACA, yet when they were in office didn't do anything.
MAGA doesn't know how to lead. They only know how to stoke division and rile up the dumbest and most gullible population of the US. It'll be a great day when that movement dies and their supporters go back to the shadows where they belong.

 
Your thread title did not age well. Looks like your boy is the one backing out of the debate.



The bar can only be set that low for a DEI candidate. If she shows up and she is not drunk, she will be declared the victor.

But, it's not going to be easy for her to show up. He took out Hillary and then he took out Biden. They know what they are up against. The Don is a spotlight whore and will be ready to shine for the debates. Don't you worry.
 
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