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Find this interesting; as the MSM runs interference for Voter Fraud

and most of this is process charges, ie. "lying to FBI" etc. some are simply allegations propped up by the press, ie. "obstruction of justice". The identity charges all levied against Russian bot farms that have no affiliation to the Trump campaign. The financial/money charges, all levied against Manafort for things he did 10-12 years before the campaign....so what else you got. You're proving my point. There was no known crime to investigate, initially. This is simply a witch hunt; an investigation looking for a crime.
Maybe a liberal, democrat, Harvard law professor can explain it to you guys:
https://www.breitbart.com/video/201...e-committed-as-the-result-of-his-appointment/
Do you actually think just because you teach at Harvard that makes your political out look liberal? If the guy who helped defend OJ, Jeffrey Epstein and is actively defending Harvey Weinstein is your think man on a defense that the crimes you commited were simply 'process' crimes. Well my friend, I'd suggest that you might want to rethink the company you keep.

He absolutely has a point on some of these things, but I'm afraid for our country because I have a gut feeling when the financials are completely looked at, we are going to find out that Trump, has been compromised by the Russians since the mid 80's.

I very much could be wrong. But lets say after the fbi raids this week, that Muller comes out and charges Trumps sons with wire fraud and money laundering and that he simply lists Individual 1 as committing the same crimes or ring leading it. What will you do? Rush to defend him? What if the conspiracy is that Trump took his 200million from his father made some bad business decisions, no one would lend him money anymore, so he started accepting shady investments from Russians.

I say this all because its my worst fear. I believe it would tear the country apart and that the Russians are absolutely planning on outing the Trumps when it will do the worst damage to us. I just hope americans can set aside their differences and not totally freak out when Trump is exposed as being compromised.
 
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None of you guys ever say where you get your information. All you do slam conservative sites.

Absolutely untrue, stop lying. I went into detail, in a thread that you participated in, about the sites that I find factual and accurate. (Starting with theamericanconservative.com)

So, it didn't happen? I could link 4-5 other sites where it was reported as well, but you just go on thinking that it didn't happen.

So you're hand-waving away the fact that you linked a Russian Propaganda site?
 
Absolutely untrue, stop lying. I went into detail, in a thread that you participated in, about the sites that I find factual and accurate. (Starting with theamericanconservative.com)



So you're hand-waving away the fact that you linked a Russian Propaganda site?

Sounds like you're hand-waving away the fact that the raid happened because it was reported by a site you don't like; even though google provides many other links. Typical liberal device: Change the conversation; avoid the facts by attacking the messenger.
 
Do you actually think just because you teach at Harvard that makes your political out look liberal? If the guy who helped defend OJ, Jeffrey Epstein and is actively defending Harvey Weinstein is your think man on a defense that the crimes you commited were simply 'process' crimes. Well my friend, I'd suggest that you might want to rethink the company you keep.

He absolutely has a point on some of these things, but I'm afraid for our country because I have a gut feeling when the financials are completely looked at, we are going to find out that Trump, has been compromised by the Russians since the mid 80's.

I very much could be wrong. But lets say after the fbi raids this week, that Muller comes out and charges Trumps sons with wire fraud and money laundering and that he simply lists Individual 1 as committing the same crimes or ring leading it. What will you do? Rush to defend him? What if the conspiracy is that Trump took his 200million from his father made some bad business decisions, no one would lend him money anymore, so he started accepting shady investments from Russians.

I say this all because its my worst fear. I believe it would tear the country apart and that the Russians are absolutely planning on outing the Trumps when it will do the worst damage to us. I just hope americans can set aside their differences and not totally freak out when Trump is exposed as being compromised.

I think you're grasping at straws for anything to pin on Trump. I just hope that America can come together when the truth comes out. The truth that there is a subversive group of gov't employees, tied to the Clintons, that are responsible for this mess. Just look at what has come of the Flynn investigation.

 
Who would have known that the investigation of a crook for one crime lead to discovery of other crimes and the subsequent referral to the appropriate agency?
 
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Do you actually think just because you teach at Harvard that makes your political out look liberal? If the guy who helped defend OJ, Jeffrey Epstein and is actively defending Harvey Weinstein is your think man on a defense that the crimes you commited were simply 'process' crimes. Well my friend, I'd suggest that you might want to rethink the company you keep.

He absolutely has a point on some of these things, but I'm afraid for our country because I have a gut feeling when the financials are completely looked at, we are going to find out that Trump, has been compromised by the Russians since the mid 80's.

I very much could be wrong. But lets say after the fbi raids this week, that Muller comes out and charges Trumps sons with wire fraud and money laundering and that he simply lists Individual 1 as committing the same crimes or ring leading it. What will you do? Rush to defend him? What if the conspiracy is that Trump took his 200million from his father made some bad business decisions, no one would lend him money anymore, so he started accepting shady investments from Russians.

I say this all because its my worst fear. I believe it would tear the country apart and that the Russians are absolutely planning on outing the Trumps when it will do the worst damage to us. I just hope americans can set aside their differences and not totally freak out when Trump is exposed as being compromised.

Check out Barbara Flynn's Tweet. Doesn't sound like someone who's husband was guilty by association. Check out her #'s.

 
I think you're grasping at straws for anything to pin on Trump. I just hope that America can come together when the truth comes out. The truth that there is a subversive group of gov't employees, tied to the Clintons, that are responsible for this mess. Just look at what has come of the Flynn investigation.


I hope it can too, but it won't. IMHO, either two things are going on. There's multiple VAST conspiracies where career government employees (many of whom are life long Republicans) all of a sudden decided to risk their careers and going to jail b/c they thought Hillary was going to win. So they all joined together against Trump (unlikely but possible, I suppose). OR one man and his cronies who has spend a lifetime lying and cheating to serve his own needs is continuing to lie and cheat to serve his own needs (MUCH more likely).

If Mueller can't prove his case, I'm down with Trump moving forward... it's the end of the road for me and case closed. The problem is that no matter what evidence Mueller brings forward, no Trump supporter will believe it. Despite the FACTS that Trump and his associates have lied every step of the way about their Russian connections...

Remember when Trump told us he and his campaign had no contact with the Russians? Lie.

Remember when Trump told us he didn't even have anyone in Russia to call? Lie.

Remember when Trump and Little Donny Jr. told us that there was no meeting in Trump tower? Lie.

Remember when Oh yeah we had the meeting but the meeting was about Russian adoptions? Lie.

Now we hear from Trump's lawyer that the Trump campaign was offering Putin the Moscow Trump Tower penthouse and dropping sanctions in exchange for Russian help with winning the election. And we totally believe Trump when he says this didn't happen...Ok.

Again, if Mueller can't prove his case, then I'm OK with moving forward. But my question would be. What does it take for you Trumpians to believe that our President is compromised by an enemy nation? I suspect that NOTHING would.
 
I hope it can too, but it won't. IMHO, either two things are going on. There's multiple VAST conspiracies where career government employees (many of whom are life long Republicans) all of a sudden decided to risk their careers and going to jail b/c they thought Hillary was going to win. So they all joined together against Trump (unlikely but possible, I suppose). OR one man and his cronies who has spend a lifetime lying and cheating to serve his own needs is continuing to lie and cheat to serve his own needs (MUCH more likely).

If Mueller can't prove his case, I'm down with Trump moving forward... it's the end of the road for me and case closed. The problem is that no matter what evidence Mueller brings forward, no Trump supporter will believe it. Despite the FACTS that Trump and his associates have lied every step of the way about their Russian connections...

Remember when Trump told us he and his campaign had no contact with the Russians? Lie.

Remember when Trump told us he didn't even have anyone in Russia to call? Lie.

Remember when Trump and Little Donny Jr. told us that there was no meeting in Trump tower? Lie.

Remember when Oh yeah we had the meeting but the meeting was about Russian adoptions? Lie.

Now we hear from Trump's lawyer that the Trump campaign was offering Putin the Moscow Trump Tower penthouse and dropping sanctions in exchange for Russian help with winning the election. And we totally believe Trump when he says this didn't happen...Ok.

Again, if Mueller can't prove his case, then I'm OK with moving forward. But my question would be. What does it take for you Trumpians to believe that our President is compromised by an enemy nation? I suspect that NOTHING would.

Agreed, this is my worry. Flynn has now struck a deal with Mueller. He's singing like a canary after Trump basically told the whole world he was going to pardon Flynn anyway. Flynn admitted to conspiring to KIDNAP an American Turkish resident and deliver him to the Turkey government to be .. .lets be honest here... murdered.
This is bombshell stuff.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...details-flynn-s-secretive-work-turkey-n943926

Trump is basically close to convicting himself on twitter admitting now that he KNEW that Flynn lied to the FBI while he told FBI director to give him a break.
I really think Trump is losing it. Its falling apart for him at this moment and the sharks are in the water.

If Mueller comes out though and says hey no issues with Trump, then Im fine with it, I'm dropping the subject and moving on.

I am very afraid though, if Mueller uncovers political contributions, money laundering from a certain Eastern country to a certain political party. Maybe then Mitt Romney will be vindicated for his statements that Obama laughed off about Russia being our biggest adversary. But I worry how Trump fans are going to react. A lot of them swallowed the Qanon nonesense. So I worry how politicized the cult of Trump has become and if facts, truth, rule of law are enough to quell them into seeing their emperor never ever had any clothes.
 
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Agreed, this is my worry. Flynn has now struck a deal with Mueller. He's singing like a canary after Trump basically told the whole world he was going to pardon Flynn anyway. Flynn admitted to conspiring to KIDNAP an American Turkish resident and deliver him to the Turkey government to be .. .lets be honest here... murdered.
This is bombshell stuff.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...details-flynn-s-secretive-work-turkey-n943926

Trump is basically close to convicting himself on twitter admitting now that he KNEW that Flynn lied to the FBI while he told FBI director to give him a break.
I really think Trump is losing it. Its falling apart for him at this moment and the sharks are in the water.

If Mueller comes out though and says hey no issues with Trump, then Im fine with it, I'm dropping the subject and moving on.

I am very afraid though, if Mueller uncovers political contributions, money laundering from a certain Eastern country to a certain political party. Maybe then Mitt Romney will be vindicated for his statements that Obama laughed off about Russia being our biggest adversary. But I worry how Trump fans are going to react. A lot of them swallowed the Qanon nonesense. So I worry how politicized the cult of Trump has become and if facts, truth, rule of law are enough to quell them into seeing their emperor never ever had any clothes.

We are on the same page here for sure. If Mueller says there's nothing going on, you'll never hear another word about it from me.

Mueller is a life long Republican. He was nominated for the head of the FBI by Bush Jr. He was confirmed by the Senate 98-0 (2 Senators absent...when was the last time you saw that?), he finished out his stint as director under Obama, THEN (and this just KILLS me.. he was on Trump's short list to run the FBI again). That's how straight up this guy is. No Republican has EVER had a problem with him before. But when he starts investigating the Dear Leader all of a sudden... he's the worst.

You are also right with the being afraid part. Donald Trump's supporters are past the point where they are bothered by anything Trump says or does. If Mueller produced a tape showing Trump handing over the nuclear codes to Putin, Hannity would be preaching how Russia is really our friend and half the board would probably still support him. It's absolutely amazing to me that the party that Reagan belonged to would support Trump in any way. No matter what evidence Mueller brings forward, Trump's supporters absolutely will not believe a word of it...
 
Tell me how you clearly see that Trump colluded with Russia and that the dossier is once again, proven correct. So, you think because Trump once was negotiating a hotel in Moscow that means he's guilty of something? Everyone knew this long before now.
Please, please tell us what is in the dossier that is true! Please tell us what Corsi and Stone have divulged that is so damning to Trump. Can't wait to hear. Also, while you're at it, explain to us how anyone that has been indicted and/or convicted by the Mueller team, colluded with Russians. Take your time and be thorough.

Nope, nice work though @orangelvis . He didn't say collusion, he said CONNECTION. Trump told us that no one in his campaign had a meeting with Russians and he had no connections to Russia. He said he hadn't called Russia and he didn't have anyone in Russia to call. Here's the direct quote (source is the AP):

"Well I told you, General Flynn obviously was dealing [with Russia]. So that’s one person. But he was dealing, as he should have been. . . . Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven’t made a phone call to Russia in years. Don’t speak to people from Russia. I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”
Donald Trump in a news conference – Thursday, February 16, 2017

So to return to the question, will you admit that Trump flat out lied to the American People about Russia? I suspect that the the answer is that you won't.
 
I am beginning to see more clearly now. We are now looking at the "Russian Connection Investigation". So you can't be president if you've ever had a "Russian Connection". Got it.
Keep believing that msm speculation about Flynn. smh. Go ahead and tell me what Flynn is singing about. Can't wait to hear this! Does Flynn know who the Felon is who unmasked him? Does he know who the Felon is who leaked it to the press?
In the meantime, here is a little something you guys probably see in the news, because you don't believe anything that isn't msm. Slowly, like a Chinese water torture, the truth is being unredacted and given over to public consumption.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...vide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

And then there's this regarding Flynn. Did you see Flynn's wife's hashtags in her tweet?
#WWG1WGA . Wonder what that's all about?

One thing's for sure, at the end of this, we'll find out who is listening to the wrong sources.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...resisters-no-jail-time-or-hints-of-collusion/
 
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I am beginning to see more clearly now. We are now looking at the "Russian Connection Investigation". So you can't be president if you've ever had a "Russian Connection". Got it.
Keep believing that msm speculation about Flynn. smh. Go ahead and tell me what Flynn is singing about. Can't wait to hear this! Does Flynn know who the Felon is who unmasked him? Does he know who the Felon is who leaked it to the press?
In the meantime, here is a little something you guys probably see in the news, because you don't believe anything that isn't msm. Slowly, like a Chinese water torture, the truth is being unredacted and given over to public consumption.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...vide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

And then there's this regarding Flynn. Did you see Flynn's wife's hashtags in her tweet?
#WWG1WGA . Wonder what that's all about?

One thing's for sure, at the end of this, we'll find out who is listening to the wrong sources.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...resisters-no-jail-time-or-hints-of-collusion/
Flynn is admitting that he was working for Turkey to kidnap a man to be murdered. You are the one resting your hopes for your political cult on tweets from a wife. I'm the one reading the memo from the man prosecuting him. Wake up dude.
 
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Flynn is admitting that he was working for Turkey to kidnap a man to be murdered. You are the one resting your hopes for your political cult on tweets from a wife. I'm the one reading the memo from the man prosecuting him. Wake up dude.

Come on man, open your eyes. The Supreme Leader pointed at a person holding up a Q sign at a rally months ago, thus validating everything that QANON has been saying. How do you not see that? WW1WGA
 
Flynn is admitting that he was working for Turkey to kidnap a man to be murdered. You are the one resting your hopes for your political cult on tweets from a wife. I'm the one reading the memo from the man prosecuting him. Wake up dude.

Just so I understand you, you're saying that Flynn was conspiring to kidnap an American Mullah and send him to Turkey where you know he was going to be murdered. Is that right?

And for the record, not resting my hopes on anything but what I know to be facts. You're the one resting on conjecture and totally disregarding the felonies committed in setting Flynn up for a FBI interview.
 
Just so I understand you, you're saying that Flynn was conspiring to kidnap an American Mullah and send him to Turkey where you know he was going to be murdered. Is that right?

And for the record, not resting my hopes on anything but what I know to be facts. You're the one resting on conjecture and totally disregarding the felonies committed in setting Flynn up for a FBI interview.

The documents specifically state that a key component of Flynn’s work for Turkey involved the government’s efforts to remove from the U.S. a Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuses the cleric, Fethullah Gulen, of orchestrating a failed coup against him in July 2016. Flynn began working for Turkey about a month later.



Federal prosecutors said in the court filing, which refers to Gulen, though not by name, that Flynn’s decision not to disclose that he was aiding the Turkish government "impeded the ability of the public to learn about the Republic of Turkey's efforts to influence public opinion about the failed coup, including its efforts to effectuate the removal of a person legally residing in the United States."


You are resting on facts? Your sources are an OPINION PIECE.
 
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Check out Barbara Flynn's Tweet. Doesn't sound like someone who's husband was guilty by association. Check out her #'s.

Let me address this tweet which you keep referencing. Heres the problem with todays American traversing the internet. The internet is full of lies. Can you believe it? Some call it fake news. Our intelligence agencies have pointed to Russian and Chinese trolls that create stories out of nothing with the purpose of making our politics more poisoned and divisive.

This tweet is from an UNVERIFIED source that claims to be Mike Flynn's sister. It's using hashtags to be picked up by the Qanon community of actual poison eating red pilled fools.
If you base any of your outside views of the world and how it works, on internet trolling from Qanon, you've lost all credibility. Put down the internet, you've had enough.

Qanon is the most masterful trolling of a huge population I have ever seen. I applaud him./them for it, but its bad for our country and it scares me so many are so gullible.
 
I think you're grasping at straws for anything to pin on Trump. I just hope that America can come together when the truth comes out. The truth that there is a subversive group of gov't employees, tied to the Clintons, that are responsible for this mess. Just look at what has come of the Flynn investigation.


I'm starting to question your sincerity here...Flynn spilled the beans. He gave up information after he was caught in a web of lies. Since he is cooperating he is not going to serve time--this is the normal order of the justice system for the past 80 years.

I can't believe you were waiting all this time to hear that Justice dept officials felt like Trump needed to be checked. Wow. When you appoint Flynn, he is then shown to be compromised, and you want that national security threat to remain--yeah, you might want to check that authoritarian power grab.

That isn't a cabal trying to overthrow Trump--those are concerned PATRIOTS doing their job to protect the constitution.

But Trump sycophants don't care about the constitution--only Trump and power.

Some RedNovember! I'm still waiting...
 
I am beginning to see more clearly now. We are now looking at the "Russian Connection Investigation". So you can't be president if you've ever had a "Russian Connection". Got it.
Keep believing that msm speculation about Flynn. smh. Go ahead and tell me what Flynn is singing about. Can't wait to hear this! Does Flynn know who the Felon is who unmasked him? Does he know who the Felon is who leaked it to the press?
In the meantime, here is a little something you guys probably see in the news, because you don't believe anything that isn't msm. Slowly, like a Chinese water torture, the truth is being unredacted and given over to public consumption.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...vide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

And then there's this regarding Flynn. Did you see Flynn's wife's hashtags in her tweet?
#WWG1WGA . Wonder what that's all about?

One thing's for sure, at the end of this, we'll find out who is listening to the wrong sources.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...resisters-no-jail-time-or-hints-of-collusion/

Spin spin spin.

Reality check--you need to be honest with the american people, right? Or is that not important anymore?

You shouldn't say over and over and over you have zero business with russia, no dealings, no nothing when you are trying to orchestrate a TRUMP TOWER in Moscow and promising a pent house apt to PUTIN. Cohen made those calls.

So Trump is a liar and he had significant business dealings with Russia--you have to admit that and I know it pains you but that makes Trump and his campaign and administration liars.

Now that we know they lie and frequently to cover things up--you can begin to ask what else might he and his family and business lied about.

Now, we don't know if Trump directed Cohen to offer Putin the apt as a way to get the deal. If he did--that could be a felony (there is some wiggle room but it is still a lie told repeatedly).

Hopefully you can still follow bc this is important. Since he lied, clearly, and Russia--Putin and his personal assistant--knew that Trump was brazenly lying over and over again, that could be used against a sitting president-blackmail, leverage, kompromat. This is why intelligence agencies exist.

At the very least this single strand of the investigation should completely reframe how you think about Trump.
 
I'm starting to question your sincerity here...Flynn spilled the beans. He gave up information after he was caught in a web of lies. Since he is cooperating he is not going to serve time--this is the normal order of the justice system for the past 80 years.

I can't believe you were waiting all this time to hear that Justice dept officials felt like Trump needed to be checked. Wow. When you appoint Flynn, he is then shown to be compromised, and you want that national security threat to remain--yeah, you might want to check that authoritarian power grab.

That isn't a cabal trying to overthrow Trump--those are concerned PATRIOTS doing their job to protect the constitution.

But Trump sycophants don't care about the constitution--only Trump and power.

Some RedNovember! I'm still waiting...

WOW!
Illegal unmasking of a U.S. citizen
Illegal leaking of classified information
FBI 302s stating Flynn didn't lie during interview

Red October: Kavanaugh voted through solidifies Supreme Court + Senate is safe because POTUS endlessly campaigning for open Senate seats = smooth sailing through court battles and smooth sailing through Judicial and other appointments.

You will soon see that everything you believe about any of this was contrived. It all leads back to the Clintons, who, after all, paid for the Dossier and controls people like Mueller, Rosenstein, and others through mafia like methods. In fact, it has already begun. Remember Huber and Horowitz?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...-evidence-in-2017-alleging-clinton-foundation

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The documents specifically state that a key component of Flynn’s work for Turkey involved the government’s efforts to remove from the U.S. a Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuses the cleric, Fethullah Gulen, of orchestrating a failed coup against him in July 2016. Flynn began working for Turkey about a month later.



Federal prosecutors said in the court filing, which refers to Gulen, though not by name, that Flynn’s decision not to disclose that he was aiding the Turkish government "impeded the ability of the public to learn about the Republic of Turkey's efforts to influence public opinion about the failed coup, including its efforts to effectuate the removal of a person legally residing in the United States."


You are resting on facts? Your sources are an OPINION PIECE.

Well, this is VERY different than your first claim. So, basically, Flynn didn't register as a foreign lobbyist; which is often done after the fact. The best I can tell, Flynn wrote an article for the Wapo supportive of Turkey/against Mullah.
 
Spin spin spin.

Reality check--you need to be honest with the american people, right? Or is that not important anymore?

You shouldn't say over and over and over you have zero business with russia, no dealings, no nothing when you are trying to orchestrate a TRUMP TOWER in Moscow and promising a pent house apt to PUTIN. Cohen made those calls.

So Trump is a liar and he had significant business dealings with Russia--you have to admit that and I know it pains you but that makes Trump and his campaign and administration liars.

Now that we know they lie and frequently to cover things up--you can begin to ask what else might he and his family and business lied about.

Now, we don't know if Trump directed Cohen to offer Putin the apt as a way to get the deal. If he did--that could be a felony (there is some wiggle room but it is still a lie told repeatedly).

Hopefully you can still follow bc this is important. Since he lied, clearly, and Russia--Putin and his personal assistant--knew that Trump was brazenly lying over and over again, that could be used against a sitting president-blackmail, leverage, kompromat. This is why intelligence agencies exist.

At the very least this single strand of the investigation should completely reframe how you think about Trump.

Everything you write here is spin. Taking some facts and adding fluff. A marketing guy suggested in a meeting that Putin be offered a free penthouse, IF the plans went through,(this happened in 2012-2014). Trumps company has a history of doing the same with other properties; including Marilargo.
The FACT that no deals were ever made, no money ever changed hands means nothing to haters like you. According to your ilk, thoughts can be prosecuted. The FACT that Hillary and the DNC actually laundered money through a law firm and Fusion GPS to buy Russian dirt on a political opponent; which was then covertly given to Obama's DOJ/FBI; which then obtained a FISA by illegal fraud, means nothing to haters. Well, nothing can stop what is about to unfold, so stay in touch. I'll explain it to you as it unfolds.
 
WOW!
Illegal unmasking of a U.S. citizen
Illegal leaking of classified information
FBI 302s stating Flynn didn't lie during interview

Red October: Kavanaugh voted through solidifies Supreme Court + Senate is safe because POTUS endlessly campaigning for open Senate seats = smooth sailing through court battles and smooth sailing through Judicial and other appointments.

You will soon see that everything you believe about any of this was contrived. It all leads back to the Clintons, who, after all, paid for the Dossier and controls people like Mueller, Rosenstein, and others through mafia like methods. In fact, it has already begun. Remember Huber and Horowitz?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...-evidence-in-2017-alleging-clinton-foundation

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Its time for you to stop believing this Q nonsense. You are literally pushing propaganda from a foreign power.
 
Its time for you to stop believing this Q nonsense. You are literally pushing propaganda from a foreign power.

No, you are literally believing propaganda from the msm, who are terrified of the truth and refuse to report it. Do you call this a foreign power?

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No, you are literally believing propaganda from the msm, who are terrified of the truth and refuse to report it. Do you call this a foreign power?

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Photoshop bruh fake news as shit. You can support Trump, you can support policies. But Q is faaake fvcking news and you are a conspiracy theorist who probably thinks school shootings are a liberal conspiracy, that the government is turning our frogs gay and that being a white nationalist is just what every white dude should be.
 
BY JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 12/06/18 04:30 PM EST 3,314
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Just keep believing what you believe man. Obviously we are not going to agree, but the future is upon us. Soloman is a respected investigative reporter whether you choose to believe it or not. Where is Comey at this very minute? You think Rep. Mark Meadows is making sh!t up? The fact that this is coming out in the open now, is logical evidence that Huber and Horowitz are through with their year long investigation and are ready to proceed.



Just keep believing this lying, leaking traitor. You will be sorely disappointed.
https://www.breitbart.com/video/201...y-desperate-sees-the-walls-closing-in-on-him/
 
Sounds like you're hand-waving away the fact that the raid happened because it was reported by a site you don't like

The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. In a debate it is up to the one making the claim to provide solid sources.

That said, as a Patriotic American YOU SHOULDN'T LIKE THAT SOURCE.

Unfortunately I believe you are loyal to a party and a man, not to the ideals that shaped the Republican party for the last 50 years. Things like globalism, free trade and removing tariffs.

One has to think, when Putin likes my guy, maybe I need to rethink why I like my guy.
 
I am beginning to see more clearly now. We are now looking at the "Russian Connection Investigation". So you can't be president if you've ever had a "Russian Connection". Got it.
Keep believing that msm speculation about Flynn. smh. Go ahead and tell me what Flynn is singing about. Can't wait to hear this! Does Flynn know who the Felon is who unmasked him? Does he know who the Felon is who leaked it to the press?
In the meantime, here is a little something you guys probably see in the news, because you don't believe anything that isn't msm. Slowly, like a Chinese water torture, the truth is being unredacted and given over to public consumption.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...vide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

And then there's this regarding Flynn. Did you see Flynn's wife's hashtags in her tweet?
#WWG1WGA . Wonder what that's all about?

One thing's for sure, at the end of this, we'll find out who is listening to the wrong sources.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...resisters-no-jail-time-or-hints-of-collusion/

1. the hill is mainstream media.

2. you linked an opinion piece.

3. QANON? is this real life? you are a real person?
 
No, you are literally believing propaganda from the msm, who are terrified of the truth and refuse to report it. Do you call this a foreign power?

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this is not real.

you people are off your rocker.
 
Everything you write here is spin. Taking some facts and adding fluff. A marketing guy suggested in a meeting that Putin be offered a free penthouse, IF the plans went through,(this happened in 2012-2014). Trumps company has a history of doing the same with other properties; including Marilargo.
The FACT that no deals were ever made, no money ever changed hands means nothing to haters like you. According to your ilk, thoughts can be prosecuted. The FACT that Hillary and the DNC actually laundered money through a law firm and Fusion GPS to buy Russian dirt on a political opponent; which was then covertly given to Obama's DOJ/FBI; which then obtained a FISA by illegal fraud, means nothing to haters. Well, nothing can stop what is about to unfold, so stay in touch. I'll explain it to you as it unfolds.

Oh please...

Felix Sater is a marketing guy now?? And no--Cohen lied about calling Putin's assistant. TRUMP LIED ABOUT HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH PUTIN. You can't blame that on Hillary.

So did Hillary direct Trump to direct Cohen to commit 2 felonies??

If Trump weren't the president he would already be charged or already indicted. Goose cooked. This isn't a made up opinion piece or ridiculous Breitbart spin--these are court documents in the southern district of NY.

Yes the dossier--which has yet to be disproven--was absolutely fine.

First a Republican paid for the opposition research first. GOP mega donor Paul Singer and CONSERVATIVE paper the Washington Free Beacon engaged Fusion GPS. That is where the first reports for the dossier come from--it isn't one thing but a series of reports, remember.

So the research was already started with Steele lawfully by a gop donor.

So it isn't a conspiracy that starts this.

But this has all been litigated already. This was legal--Marc Elias and Perkins Coe hired Fusion GPS. The law firm was paid 12 million during the campaign for legal work.

You can spin a conspiracy but the most that could ever happen is an FEC fine for campaign contributions. No felonies.

But take a step back--the dossier, which you always claim is false--leads to a bigger investigation. So what--if you are innocent, and didn't pay off hookers with campaign funds or try to get a Trump Moscow and deep business ties etc etc. it would come to nothing.

Give up these lame attempts to try and blame Hillary.
 
The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. In a debate it is up to the one making the claim to provide solid sources.

That said, as a Patriotic American YOU SHOULDN'T LIKE THAT SOURCE.

Unfortunately I believe you are loyal to a party and a man, not to the ideals that shaped the Republican party for the last 50 years. Things like globalism, free trade and removing tariffs.

One has to think, when Putin likes my guy, maybe I need to rethink why I like my guy.

THIS. ALL DAY. How many people has Trump cycled through the Whitehouse and his campaign? They are the "best" when they come, but are "stupid and lazy" when they leave. How many American that apparently worked for decades (some of the most notable ones life time Republicans) with distinction, but when Trump runs for President, they decide to throw it all away to help Hillary. And we know this all because Trump told us so.

I notice that @orangelvis still hasn't admitted that Trump flat out lied to the American People about his Russian connections. He can't do it. He believes ANYTHING Trump and Hannity tell him that he believes. I'm sure he's down with Hillary running the sex ring a child sex ring out of a Pizza Hut, but Trump cheating and breaking the law is simply too crazy to believe.
 
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Oh please...

Felix Sater is a marketing guy now?? And no--Cohen lied about calling Putin's assistant. TRUMP LIED ABOUT HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH PUTIN. You can't blame that on Hillary.

So did Hillary direct Trump to direct Cohen to commit 2 felonies??

If Trump weren't the president he would already be charged or already indicted. Goose cooked. This isn't a made up opinion piece or ridiculous Breitbart spin--these are court documents in the southern district of NY.

Yes the dossier--which has yet to be disproven--was absolutely fine.

First a Republican paid for the opposition research first. GOP mega donor Paul Singer and CONSERVATIVE paper the Washington Free Beacon engaged Fusion GPS. That is where the first reports for the dossier come from--it isn't one thing but a series of reports, remember.

So the research was already started with Steele lawfully by a gop donor.

So it isn't a conspiracy that starts this.

But this has all been litigated already. This was legal--Marc Elias and Perkins Coe hired Fusion GPS. The law firm was paid 12 million during the campaign for legal work.

You can spin a conspiracy but the most that could ever happen is an FEC fine for campaign contributions. No felonies.

But take a step back--the dossier, which you always claim is false--leads to a bigger investigation. So what--if you are innocent, and didn't pay off hookers with campaign funds or try to get a Trump Moscow and deep business ties etc etc. it would come to nothing.

Give up these lame attempts to try and blame Hillary.

Dude. Can't you see that hundreds of people are lying to try and "get" Trump? OR maybe Trump is lying about hundreds of people? Trump's supporters absolutely believe him. As Trump himself said, he could gun down someone in the street in cold blood and the folks on here would absolutely support that (and go to church next Sunday).
 
Dude. Can't you see that hundreds of people are lying to try and "get" Trump? OR maybe Trump is lying about hundreds of people? Trump's supporters absolutely believe him. As Trump himself said, he could gun down someone in the street in cold blood and the folks on here would absolutely support that (and go to church next Sunday).

I agree with everything but the church part.

One Corinthians wouldn't enter a church that wasn't a photo op for anything except maybe a Trump Tower Moscow.
 
So @orangelvis--was Trump in the room when hush money payments were discussed or nope?

How are you folks spinning this one?
 
So @orangelvis--was Trump in the room when hush money payments were discussed or nope?

How are you folks spinning this one?

Doesn't matter whether he was there are not. It's not a crime nor is it even a violation of campaign finance...just wishful left-winged, talking points. If John Edwards' situation was ok, how in the world can you spin this as being wrong by any stretch?
 
If John Edwards' situation was ok
How does a mistrial from a deadlocked jury make that "ok"? The government had poor witness testimony that contradicted itself. Legally this question of campaign finance violation is very much unresolved.
 
How does a mistrial from a deadlocked jury make that "ok"? The government had poor witness testimony that contradicted itself. Legally this question of campaign finance violation is very much unresolved.

Ok. So what happened when Obama had campaign finance violations. He had them right? Not that Trump's situation has been even been deemed a violation, but let's pretend that it ends up being ruled a violation. Lets take it a step further. Lets say it is ruled a violation and the House decides to bring impeachment charges. What then happens to the 200+ members of Congress who used 78 million in tax payer funds to pay for silence from sexual indiscretions?
 
Ok. So what happened when Obama had campaign finance violations. He had them right? Not that Trump's situation has been even been deemed a violation, but let's pretend that it ends up being ruled a violation. Lets take it a step further. Lets say it is ruled a violation and the House decides to bring impeachment charges. What then happens to the 200+ members of Congress who used 78 million in tax payer funds to pay for silence from sexual indiscretions?
So if "everyone does it" the law shouldn't matter anymore.

I thought we were a country of laws.
 
Doesn't matter whether he was there are not. It's not a crime nor is it even a violation of campaign finance...just wishful left-winged, talking points. If John Edwards' situation was ok, how in the world can you spin this as being wrong by any stretch?

@orangelvis let me help you here--I don't want you to be woefully uninformed.

With campaign finance felonies you need to prove two things--very high standards--that you knowingly violated the law (you were aware of the laws and went ahead and broke them anyway) and that you did it willfully.

The FEC only has civil and not criminal enforcement. If they find anything it will always be civil in the form of fines. This happens routinely--a campaign staffer didn't file papers in time--boom, fine. Another puts the wrong amounts--more fines. Every campaign can get dinged especially larger campaigns like at the presidential level. No biggie.

To prove knowing and willful violation of the law we now have Cohen's testimony (which by itself would not be enough), the recording, the shell company, the receipts, and most importantly AMI also affirming everything Cohen has said. AMI is a credible witness in the way Cohen isn't. That is more than enough evidence to prosecute. Combine that with shifting public statements by Trump himself (I didn't know, oh wait--I knew but it isn't a biggie, back to idk--etc etc) and his goose is cooked.

Edwards was prosecuted but was acquitted because the govt (when conservatives cared about morality) couldn't prove it was knowing or willful violation of the law.

Again, you need someone literally in the room saying that someone did this and probably another party along with corroborating documents to ever meet the high burden for criminal campaign violations (which bc of their dollar amount over 25k are felonies up to 5 years in prison). You need to prove coordination.

And that is exactly what we have in this case...

Cohen out on good morning america--wow...

We also need to talk about Mariah Butina, inauguration spending, Saudi arms payments to kill Yemen children, covering for Khashoggi murder, a 7 year old dead on the border, etc. etc.

With regards to the problems with AMI spilling the beans: "The use of corporate funds to make a contribution to a presidential campaign has been illegal for decades. That makes the offense in Trump’s case significantly more serious than the charges against Edwards, or even the already serious charges Trump could face for conspiring with Cohen to make illegal and unreported individual contributions. And because the source of the payments can ultimately be traced back to the Trump Organization, prosecutors have many robust sources of evidence to comb. Those sources already suggest there were false payments (which would likely violate federal and state tax laws) and “grossing up” of Cohen’s money to account for his personal taxes. All of this may amount to consciousness of guilt and may also be a path for prosecutors to discover who authorized the payments in the first place (likely “Individual-1” or one of his children). The evidentiary record is going to reveal how involved Trump and his family was in these payments — a corporate record that was completely nonexistent with Edwards."

From the George Conway, Trevor Potter, and Neal Katyal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ngerous/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ef35f9aae66d
 
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