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Which is why it would be nice to investigate and arrest those who did this Dem or Rep. They did shit that fuked up the election process and have us at each others throats. They wont suffer from their actions but us plebs will bare the brunt of it. Nobody will trust another election anytime soon on either side and thats a very dark bad place to be...
If you don't trust an election simply because some voters used a dropbox, you've got bigger issues to worry about. I completely trust the election system of our country - even if Repubs used dropboxes in other states and it was later learned to be improper. The votes should still be legal and I won't lose a minute of sleep over it. We didn't do a proctology exam on the 2016 election but I'm sure the same issues would have been found there.

You don't trust because you were told not to. Silly MAGA
 
Which is why it would be nice to investigate and arrest those who did this Dem or Rep. They did shit that fuked up the election process and have us at each others throats. They wont suffer from their actions but us plebs will bare the brunt of it. Nobody will trust another election anytime soon on either side and thats a very dark bad place to be...
lol, that's your choice to be at others throats. one side is saying 'this is what fvcked everythig up' with 0 real proof. the other side is saying you have no evidence of actual provable fraud.

it's like russiagate in reverse
 
Well that escalated quickly.


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Calling for a civil war when your “side” is anti-gun, anti-police, anti-military, believes that words and mis-gendered pronouns are violence, and dont know what bathroom to use is a odd flex ……
 
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nope, read them clear.

sounds like she is saying that unless the Dems maintain control, there will be a Civil War.

you read it differently?
She clearly means if the Repubs win, they will start or ignite one. Positive ;)

Definitely not calling for one
 
If Repubs win, thus winning the majority, thus control of the House and Senate … why would they start a Civil War?

that makes no sense

It’s all silliness anyways.
Umm, have they been trustworthy stewards of the law or the truth the last couple years? 🤔

She's implying they will turn it into a giant shitshow that will inflame passions on both sides.
 
Biden’s approval rate is higher now than Trump’s and Reagan’s at the same point in their presidency.

the critical error that you and your merry band of dipshits on here make is believing that maga makes up 50% of the population. It is more like 25-30%. The rest of us don’t care for you.
“There you go again.”
 
He mentioned that Biden’s specific speech was full of lies. I asked what lies? He never responded.

If you are going to chime in and call me an imbecile, you should at least be able to read

stone cold loser.it
So that makes you less of an imbecile? You stone cold fascist Antifa lover. Lol
Btw, fascism is a Democratic phenomenon not a Republican one but I wouldn’t expect a numbnut like you to understand that.
 
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Umm, have they been trustworthy stewards of the law or the truth the last couple years? 🤔

She's implying they will turn it into a giant shitshow that will inflame passions on both sides.
Inflame passions??? Sooo if Dems don’t get their way they will declare civil war?

that is how I read her statement … and you understand that would spell an absolute blood bath for the Dems, right?

I personally find any mention of Civil War as lazy fear mongering as the notion of it is completely ridiculous. Gun ownership and preparedness aside … blue states would starve without the red states and red states would be bankrupt without the blue states … there is no path to victory for either “side”.
 
Inflame passions??? Sooo if Dems don’t get their way they will declare civil war?

that is how I read her statement … and you understand that would spell an absolute blood bath for the Dems, right?

I personally find any mention of Civil War as lazy fear mongering as the notion of it is completely ridiculous. Gun ownership and preparedness aside … blue states would starve without the red states and red states would be bankrupt without the blue states … there is no path to victory for either “side”.
If the economy goes to shit and everyone goes into survival mode, I don’t think being bankrupt is going to be of concern for anyone
 
lol, that's your choice to be at others throats. one side is saying 'this is what fvcked everythig up' with 0 real proof. the other side is saying you have no evidence of actual provable fraud.

it's like russiagate in reverse
Its your side that does 90% of the violence. Dont see our side out shooting up your events and trying to kill you. Dems politicians make calls for violence and you guys go out and do it. Then try to claim it was us.
 
Its your side that does 90% of the violence. Dont see our side out shooting up your events and trying to kill you. Dems politicians make calls for violence and you guys go out and do it. Then try to claim it was us.
Yeah, I agree. Hell, J6 is shining example, right? BLM and Auntie Tifa there storming the capitol and blaming it on trump supporters. I can see now how wrong that was.

Also, you still haven’t figured out I’m not a democrat. Astounding.
 
So that makes you less of an imbecile? You stone cold fascist Antifa lover. Lol
Btw, fascism is a Democratic phenomenon not a Republican one but I wouldn’t expect a numbnut like you to understand that.
1) what is “your” definition of fascism?
2) what makes you believe that it is a “democratic” phenomenon when all historians and political science people in the history of that world see it as a far right issue?

FWIW, here is the actual definition:
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalistpolitical ideology and movement,[1][2][3]characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy”

You guys complain that the left is weak on immigration, how would that fit ultranationalism?

You guys complain that the left is weak on the military support side, how would that fit militarism?

I could continue but if you are like the other MAGA crazies on this board you will lack the intellectual honesty to recognize objective facts and that you were full of shit. There are horrible things that can happen with forms of authoritarian regimes like communism, but they’re not called fascism.
 
Yeah, I agree. Hell, J6 is shining example, right? BLM and Auntie Tifa there storming the capitol and blaming it on trump supporters. I can see now how wrong that was.

Also, you still haven’t figured out I’m not a democrat. Astounding.
You cant play that game. We are not buying it brother democrat. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck.
 
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Inflame passions??? Sooo if Dems don’t get their way they will declare civil war?

that is how I read her statement … and you understand that would spell an absolute blood bath for the Dems, right?

I personally find any mention of Civil War as lazy fear mongering as the notion of it is completely ridiculous. Gun ownership and preparedness aside … blue states would starve without the red states and red states would be bankrupt without the blue states … there is no path to victory for either “side”.
Dude, WTH are you talking about? Get our way, like accepting the results of an election or holding criminals accountable?

Noone on our side is advocating for Civil War and wouldn't be. She shouldn't have said that but she's not without evidence.



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what lies?

You won't agree with me on really any of this but here you go:

First, have to say that WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. He says Republic once and then goes on the democracy tangent. We are not a democracy. That’s mob rule which I have to wonder if that’s not what they are going for. I’m sure the constant reference to democracy is purposeful at this point. The country is that ignorant to fall right into that trap at this point.

“Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.”

-How exactly? Could they be perceived as a somewhat belligerent political movement? Certainly, but a threat to the Republic? A statement of that nature must come strongly backed with a lot of evidence and clarity. We just didn’t get that. In fact, even the President himself said the following day that MAGA Republicans don’t represent a threat. Further, this is ultimately an attempt to further divide the Republican party in a national speech by the sitting President. Just not a good look. If Trump had done something like this people would go bananas. We need to get back to a point where something is right or wrong regardless of who does it.

“And here, in my view, is what is true: MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution. They do not believe in the rule of law. They do not recognize the will of the people.”

-This bothers me because these “MAGA” people are acting out because they have not been represented well because of the consolidation in most states around big cities. No one ever bothers to try and understand why these people are acting this way and how we can try to unite our nation.

“They refuse to accept the results of a free election. And they’re working right now, as I speak, in state after state to give power to decide elections in America to partisans and cronies, empowering election deniers to undermine democracy itself."

-You mean like calling a president illegitimate or saying the election was stolen or hosting Stacey Abrams at a governor’s convention as the rightful Governor of Georgia? Or perhaps members of the House voting not to certify the results of a duly held election? All things Democrats have done and that’s just for starters. No, the Dems haven’t stormed the Capitol and no Dem President has behaved like Trump did which was truly egregious. However, it also bears noting that no Dem President has ever been treated by the media the way Trump was. There was definitely an effort to rig the election (not through voting machines but in the media) and it is readily admitted at this point. Sam Harris said the quiet part out loud recently for all to hear. Something that was already known by anyone watching with a somewhat objective eye.


“MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards -- backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love."

-This is just false and here he does something very cynical. He lumps anyone who is pro-life or believes in marriage as between a man and a woman into the MAGA crowd. This basically renders his earlier statement inert. Certainly you can link some Twitter videos showing some loon saying these things. I know there are people who want this and conversely, I could link videos of loons saying completely absurd things on the left. How does that make us better? We’ve been playing gotcha for a while over Twitter and how’s that working out for us? It does nothing but divide us. Forces? As in an army? Where exactly?

“They promote authoritarian leaders, and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country."

-By what measure are they authoritarian? Please list all the authoritarian actions by Republicans that we have seen. By any measure this is a false statement. Joe Biden has been the least law abiding President I can remember. Now before you go nuts, I recognize if Trump was left to his own devices he would be far worse. But he did seem to listen some and not act on his worse instincts many times during his presidency. Biden is enabled and it shows. The list of times he’s flouted the law for political gain are significant.

“They look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6th -- brutally attacking law enforcement -- not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger to the throat of our democracy, but they look at them as patriots."

-This is pure hyperbole and mislabeling of what happened. It was not an insurrection and they could not have overturned our government. The government of the United States is not a building. It is not a chamber. It’s so much more than that. At some point, this needs to be let go so we can move on but I know that’s not politically expedient right now. They want to suck every last bit out of this. That’s shameful.

“And, folks, it is within our power, it’s in our hands -- yours and mine -- to stop the assault on American democracy.”

“This is a nation that honors our Constitution. We do not reject it.”

“This is a nation that believes in the rule of law. We do not repudiate it.”

“This is a nation that respects free and fair elections. We honor the will of the people. We do not deny it.”

“And this is a nation that rejects violence as a political tool. We do not encourage violence.”


-Says the man who has no respect for the rule of law. He circumvents it with executive overreach at every turn. It’s just hard to believe anyone would buy the crap he’s selling. You can’t do everything in your power to destroy the American idea and then wrap yourself in the flag when you think it will help your cause.



“We are still an America that believes in honesty and decency and respect for others, patriotism, liberty, justice for all, hope, possibilities.

“We are still, at our core, a democracy.


-We are not a democracy. Consider for a moment he’s saying this after the other things he’s said totally misrepresenting and demonizing a significant part of the country. That’s just remarkable.

“Democrats, independents, mainstream Republicans: We must be stronger, more determined, and more committed to saving American democracy than MAGA Republicans are to -- to destroying American democracy.

-Again, a huge statement vilifying people in a treasonous way without any substantiation. Really dark stuff here. Not worthy of the President.

“So I want to say this plain and simple: There is no place for political violence in America. Period. None. Ever.”

“We can’t allow violence to be normalized in this country. It’s wrong. We each have to reject political violence with -- with all the moral clarity and conviction this nation can muster. Now.”


-Except the violence you stood by and cheered on because that was legitimate, right?


“On top of that, there are public figures -- today, yesterday, and the day before -- predicting and all but calling for mass violence and rioting in the streets.”

-These two are particularly rich. As though he and his ilk didn’t stand by and essentially cheer on the riots all over the nation in the Summer of 2020. That did happen and they were the most costly riots in the history of this nation. We can’t just latch on to 1/6 and pretend the Summer riots when a lot of people died didn’t happen. Especially when they were basically cheering them on and his own VP was helping to bail them out after being arrested. I noticed that only one side has moral clarity and it is entirely circumstantial as to what suits their political agenda at the moment. That’s not clarity or conviction.

“We’re a big, complicated country. But democracy endures only if we, the people, respect the guardrails of the republic. Only if we, the people, accept the results of free and fair elections. Only if we, the people, see politics not as total war but mediation of our differences.

“Democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election: either they win or they were cheated.”


-Pot calling the kettle black moment number 452

“They don’t understand what every patriotic American knows: You can’t love your country only when you win. It’s fundamental.

-Begin the list of people on the left who threaten to move or demonize our country every time things don’t go their way.

“I will not stand by and watch the most fundamental freedom in this country -- the freedom to vote and have your vote counted -- and -- be taken from you and the American people.

-How is this happening? I can only assume this is a very poor attack on voting laws which again, are less strict than the laws from his state or the state of New York. But that’s not convenient to acknowledge.

“MAGA Republicans look at America and see carnage and darkness and despair. They spread fear and lies –- lies told for profit and power.

-This shows he has no understanding of what these people want or believe. I suspect because these are the things he and his kind seek he assumes that others want to take it from him. Nothing could be further from the truth. The MAGA movement has a lot of holes and silly views but this isn’t even remotely a part of that.

“I believed we could lift America from the depths of COVID, so we passed the largest economic recovery package since Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And today, America’s economy is faster, stronger than any other advanced nation in the world. We have more to go.

-Yeah, right. I pray he has the opportunity to do more taken from him. Worst President in my lifetime and it’s not even close. I miss Bill Clinton and that’s saying something. But then, I voted for Bill Clinton.

“Democracy begins and will be preserved in we, the people’s, habits of heart, in our character: optimism that is tested yet endures, courage that digs deep when we need it, empathy that fuels democracy, the willingness to see each other not as enemies but as fellow Americans.

-Wrapping up that speech with this section is unbelievable. Consider all he’s said prior to this and then he comes with this. LOL. Unbelievable hypocrisy even for a politician.
 
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That doesn't change the validity of the votes and you can't throw out those votes when the voters understood the dropboxes to be legal. They also don't know which ballots came from dropboxes so its a completely moot point. You lost WI fair and square. Accept it

Hate to say it but he's right here. I don't know why people can't let this go. Was the 2020 election a mess? Absolutely. But it was our election and it's over with. That the former president is calling for a "re-do" after 2 years is pathetic and demonstrative of what @iceheart08 says in the next post I quoted here.

I'm far more concerned about efforts in the media and within the government to damage and derail Trump in his re-election bid. We have lost our media. It's all either left or right and that is going to destroy us if we don't change this fast. The truth must be all that matters. Why can't we all see the low quality of leadership the current climate is bringing to the surface no matter which side we are with. It's horrible for all of us.

There is only 1 candidate currently considering running or rumored to be doing so that Biden will beat. His name is Donald trump.

Pretty much any other republican candidate can/should/would beat Biden.

This is pretty much correct. If any of the other top shelf candidates on the GOP side run, it's a wash. Which is exactly why I believe the GOP will end up picking Trump. Never count on them to do the smart thing and pick the right person. See: Herschel Walker, Dr. Oz, etc.
 
Inflame passions??? Sooo if Dems don’t get their way they will declare civil war?

that is how I read her statement … and you understand that would spell an absolute blood bath for the Dems, right?

I personally find any mention of Civil War as lazy fear mongering as the notion of it is completely ridiculous. Gun ownership and preparedness aside … blue states would starve without the red states and red states would be bankrupt without the blue states … there is no path to victory for either “side”.
idk man the rats in new york are the size of dogs. could probably survive for a few months just eating those guys

at least it worked in the futuristic documentary, Demolition Man.
 
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"During the Wayne County training call, obtained by CNN, the presumption that Democrats cheat -- thus justifying Republican rule-breaking -- permeated the discussion. It offers a snapshot of one of the ways Trump-backing, MAGA-minded conspiracy theorists are intervening in the election process across the country, sometimes encouraging poll workers or volunteer observers to violate election rules in hopes of finding evidence that Democrats might be doing the same."

"There is no exception to following the laws; there is no 'two wrongs make a right,'" said Wendy Weiser, a vice president at The Brennan Center for Justice, which tracks potential insider threats to the election process. Weiser said the center is seeing a spread in efforts by election deniers to infiltrate and manipulate the voting and vote counting process.
"If poll workers are not committed to following the law, to following the directions of election officials, to protecting the integrity of the election process, they can do serious harm," Weiser said."

"The GOP has "made a concerted effort to put election deniers in positions where they can gum up the works, afterward, if they don't win," said Jeff Timmer, former executive director of the Michigan Republican Party."
 
You just keep reinforcing the point that Trump is at the center of all the madness we've experienced over the last 6 years. He has destroyed civility and needs to go the f away completely.

So I have a question for you. Do you wish to understand the problems or just blame them all on one person? Wouldn't we all prefer to understand what's happening and perhaps some of the why whether we agree or not? Trump did not cause the death of American civility. But you could say he represents the coroner perhaps. We did this ourselves and continue to do it on a daily basis.
 
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So I have a question for you. Do you wish to understand the problems or just blame them all on one person? Wouldn't we all prefer to understand what's happening and perhaps some of the why whether we agree or not? Trump did not cause the death of American civility. But you could say he represents the coroner perhaps. We did this ourselves and continue to do it on a daily basis.
There were surely things that were bubbling up before, but not sure sending in someone with horns, a pitchfork and a gas truck was the right answer.
 
There were surely things that were bubbling up before, but not sure sending in someone with horns, a pitchfork and a gas truck was the right answer.

We have failed rural Americans. We have a government that has continued to reach further and further into our wallets. We keep trying to pick winners and losers. We have consistently eroded the freedoms and values of one group to try and prop up another. There are so many things that have brought about a movement like we see with Trump and his supporters. Most of what they want isn't bad and it won't hurt you, me or anyone else. But the perversion of those basic views is very dangerous and very bad. We see the same thing on the left too. Just focusing on him is such a terrible idea because it won't solve any of the real issues we face. I'm in favor of that approach rather than fixating on Trump.
 
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