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FPOTUS Trump attempted assassination…

No way. He might have been on that intermediate section between the two buildings where the ladder was positioned, but not up on that roof we see him crawling from.
The above was just conjecture on my part. The reports have been confusing, to say the least, but saw on FNC they reported seeing someone with a rangefinder, presumably the shooter, around 30 mins prior to the shooting. I think from the time he was spotted on the roof to shots-fired was around 2 mins. Still plenty of time to raise an alarm and at least cover and evac the president. But I've beat that horse to death. 😞
 
The above was just conjecture. The reports have been confusing, to say the least, but saw on FNC they reported seeing someone with a rangefinder, presumably the shooter, around 30 mins prior to the shooting. I think from the time he was spotted on the roof to shots-fired was around 2 mins. Still plenty of time to raise an alarm and at least cover and evac the president. But I've beat that horse to death. 😞
Yeah... the more I hear about police engaging him and supposedly communications going on about all this, I just can't understand why Trump was removed from the scene. I hope the communications are recorded/logged so that we get the full picture.
 
Question….just saw this info posted on FOX. What’s the significance of a transmitter? Any? Used for what? Communication? If so, with who?

Photo shows cell phone, transmitter found next to Trump shooter's body​


Photo shows cell phone, transmitter found next to Trump shooter's body's body
IED's are fairly simple to make.
 
I don't even blame her. I blame the one that hired her. That's who should be fired.
A 3rd option would be appreciated.

24Tiger, Dabo, Judge Smails get my vote

Currently seems like too old and out of touch or what the hell

Dr John song "I was in the right place, but it must have been the wrong time"
 
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I've seen a lot of folks questioning why the snipers didn't shoot earlier.

After playing around on google earth (my favorite software), Im surprised they had a shot at all. I've seen aerial footage of where the sniper's body was on the roof, and it appears there is a large tree between the sniper position and the shooter location.

May have been the edge of the tree obstructing the view but I'm surprised they saw him at all - if the snipers on the red building made the kill shot.
 
Secret Service was aware of him at least 3 hours prior and took a photo of him scouting the area an hour before shooting Trump.

Any reasonable explanation why they allowed Trump on the stage? I'm going with no



 
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I've seen a lot of folks questioning why the snipers didn't shoot earlier.

After playing around on google earth (my favorite software), Im surprised they had a shot at all. I've seen aerial footage of where the sniper's body was on the roof, and it appears there is a large tree between the sniper position and the shooter location.

May have been the edge of the tree obstructing the view but I'm surprised they saw him at all - if the snipers on the red building made the kill shot.
The most reasonable explanation is that he was zoomed way out.... looking at the outter perimeter more that 300+ yards out, expecting the building so close in would have been secured.
 
I mean, seriously? A "sloped roof"?

Lamest explanation, ever.
She doesn’t believe that. SS are asked to put their lives on the line to protect the president and a 5 degree sloped roof is too steep. She is most certainly hiding something. I can deal with all the other screw ups but the one I can’t deal with is why they let Trump on the stage and then why they left him out there till after shots were fired.
 
Secret Service was aware of him at least 3 hours prior and took a photo of him climbing the roof an hour before shooting Trump.

Any reasonable explanation why they allowed Trump on the stage? I'm going with no



No doubt in my mind that this was an inside job. Unfortunately, we the people will never know the truth.
 
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No doubt in my mind that this was an inside job. Unfortunately, we the people will never know the truth.
100%. I believe there's such a thing as coincidence, but this kid had to have about 15 of them all go his way for things to have played out like they did with no help. NO FREAKING WAY. The incompetence excuse can only go so far. The people in charge were aware and let it play out, plain and simple.
 
After her statement about not putting someone on the AGR building because of a slight slope, your comment makes complete sense.

So Dr Jill and NOT Joe made her the head of the USSS? Lol sounds like Jill is running things over there
 
Secret Service was aware of him at least 3 hours prior and took a photo of him climbing the roof an hour before shooting Trump.

Any reasonable explanation why they allowed Trump on the stage? I'm going with no



That’s not what this says.

He was photographed on the ground an hour before the shooting.
 


The encrypted comms stands out depending on what that means. That could suggest anything from communication with a handler/sponsor to this doosh being a dork on telegram.
 
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Well, hell - in reference to my earlier post, I see that it was NOT the sniper (the one from all of the photos) with obstructed tree view who made the kill shot. It came from another building.
 
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The encrypted comms stands out depending on what that means. That could suggest anything from communication with a handler/sponsor to this doosh being a dork on telegram.
Was just about to post about the "encrypted comms" part. Not going all in on a deep conspiracy theory (yet) but does reek of a possible collaborator. 🤔
 
Well, hell - in reference to my earlier post, I see that it was NOT the sniper (the one from all of the photos) with obstructed tree view who made the kill shot. It came from another building.
Where’d you see that?
 
Was just about to post about the "encrypted comms" part. Not going all in on a deep conspiracy theory (yet) but does reek of a possible collaborator. 🤔
That coupled with the IED about which we know relatively little. Should be easy to determine whether he bought the materials and components.
 
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@24TIGER I am just curious...have you ever found yourself in any off duty situations where someone accosted you or pushed you to the edge of an altercation? I am imagining you dispatching someone Jason Bourne-style in 30 seconds, but I wonder if you have had to go through your life keeping your temper on the tightest leash possible because you knew you probably had such an advantage given your athletic background and training. I could picture you having to kind of be like Clark Kent when someone is talking shit and just let it slide more than the average person would.

#2,032….and counting.

But it’s true 🧡
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Was there brother. Cried that night like a baby....as did a ton of grown men and women around me.
 
Wow I actually did not know that agents had top secret clearance. Makes sense.

What was retirement like for you? I’ve always wondered what its like for Presidents right after they leave office. Literally overnight they go from being in probably the single most difficult job in the world, being responsible for decisions that can affect the lives of millions of people and future generations, to just…nothing. No responsibility, no decisions to make, no nothing. I think I saw George W give an interview where he said the hardest thing he had to do on jan 21st, 2009 was figure out how to get his coffee machine to work.

Did you have a similar experience when you retired from a line of work that required you to have the same schedule as the President (or VP)? Was it jarring to just all of a sudden not have so much responsibility on your shoulders?
Fvcking retirement is highly overrated.
 
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Where are you getting this from?
After rewatching slowed down, the SS guy in most of the videos doesn’t appear to get a shot off. Second guy on the roof with him, doesn’t do shit except drop down behind the roof peak. They almost react like they were taking fire. It would make more sense that the shots came from a more oblique angle given the entry/exit wounds on the shooter. Entry wound appears to on the back of his neck in pics and exit was his left orbital.
 
does 'encrypted comms' mean he had an apple i-phone?? LOL
no. It could mean something dumb like rcs, signal, telegram, iMessage, WhatsApp, etc. Or, it could mean actual encrypted comms. Im guessing it’s the former, but I don’t know.
 
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#1 This a fail for the USSS in that FPOTUS Trump was lightly wounded (barely escaping MUCH WORSE), one man in the audience lost his life, and two more were critically wounded.

#2 Ultimately, the USSS did accomplish the mission of safely covering and evacuating FPOTUS Trump AND neutralizing the threat (sniper). Very close to LOSING the game.

There will be a thorough review and investigation, and someone is very likely to lose their job(s) at the USSS.

First time since March 30, 1981 that shots were fired at a current POTUS or FPOTUS...43 years is a long time, and that didn't happen by accident. "Not on my watch"...we were known to say.

How did this 20 year old psychotic get through the outer security perimeter AND get to the roof of the building... SO VERY close to FPOTUS Trump's stage? I've no clue.

The inherent problem with large outdoor venues like this (I've worked HUNDREDS of them) is just that....they are LARGE OUTDOOR venues that are nearly impossible 100% safely secure.

Add to the fact that most of the "security posts" held on the outer perimeter are held by either local or state law enforcement, that have little to no direct communications with the USSS shift agents or tactical units. You will see "comms" or lack thereof mentioned again.


The USSS is so lightly staffed (3,000 or so agents world wide) that they can't perform their mission without help from local, state and other federal law enforcement agencies. Add to the fact that this was ANOTHER campaign stop in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania, and you have a recipe for disaster.

To illustrate, I know on one of FPOTUS Trump's recent visits to South Carolina...SCDNR guys held outer perimeter posts...no disrespect, but you can see where I'm going with this

When the Presidential Protective Division (PPD) sends out advance teams...they come from The White House. Agents that are permanently assigned to PPD for up to 6 years .

Agents conducting site advances on the "campaign" for FPOTUS Trump might have less than a year on the job, or be so long in the tooth that they just go through the motions. Suffice to say that it's probably not the best product...and that might very well be what we witnessed yesterday.

We also knew as USSS agents, that if someone is willing to die in order to assassinate the POTUS or VPOTUS, it would be very difficult to stop.

Countersniper (CS) teams: 2 man elements staffed by USSS Uniformed Division technicians (not USSS GS-1811 special agents). I worked with the USSS CS teams for years. Extremely professional and detail oriented. Some of the best snipers in the world (many with military backgrounds) . As you can imagine, they have a tendency to operate on their own, so "comms" between USSS agents and USSS CS could certainly be improved.

I haven't listened to ANY of the theories spewed by so called "experts" from the FBI or other retired USSS agents, because almost none of them have the experience level or expertise that I possess. True.

Breaking it down to the easiest of terms...

A) Massive security breach of the outer perimeter. Unacceptable.

B) There is always a CS response team (comprised of 2 USSS special agents) that are in direct communication with the CS teams (Call sign Hercules). Certainly a critical breakdown in communications there. Appears that by the time CS spotted the sniper, it was way too late to have agents respond to the roof...which is their only mission.

C) The shift agents around FPOTUS Trump did a GREAT job in FIRST covering and THEN evacuating the FPOTUS. CAT (call sign Hawkeye) also responded in seconds form their staging area (out of public view but very close by). CAT is the highly trained and heavily armed tactical unit that provides support to the shift, and also responds to sniper fire, multiple attackers, RPGs, etc. Top 1% of the USSS....which leads me to this...

There have been discussions and comments on this site about the appearance and quality of certain USSS agents that were protecting FPOTUS Trump.

This is not a new problem for the USSS. I saw it almost 30 years ago on PPD. DEI was alive and well in the USSS even then, and we all paid the price. I was passed over for promotions and positions while others (that possessed different traits than I ) were moved up the ladder.

I persevered and won out in the end...but anyone with 1 eye can see that the USSS has some issues to deal with. Not saying that this was the cause of the catastrophe yesterday....but it doesn't help.

I had a conversation with then Vice President Biden in his office on Air Force II.

He asked me "Billy, why is the President's detail having all of these problems, and we don't have any issues here on my detail"?

"Well sir " I replied.. I can give you answer, but it's not politically correct"

VPOTUS " No, no...yeah go ahead"

I said " Do you realize that on our working shift today, we have three former Marine Corps infantry officers, two that have been in combat? Do you know why they're not on PPD"?

VPOTUS " No...why"?

"Because they look like you and me"...

His response "Hey...I get it ...I get it"

The American people deserve better.

I hope this answers some of your questions. I'm hoping I can do a podcast with @Larry_Williams and go much more in depth.
Only the best of the best for these positions, pilots, MDs, etc. Anything else is absurd. Take a look at the security details for Putin or Xi. That is what a security detail should look like. We have the best fighting men in the world in our country. Only they should be in these type front-line security positions. Plenty of places for others flying drones, handling planning, etc.
 
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