lol at a grown man calling someone a punk kid on a message board. You have no idea who I am or what I do or even how old I am. Nice morning sermon buddy. By the time I'm your age I sure hope that's not how I spend my mornings
Get Woke, Go Broke: NBA All-Star Ratings Crash, Hit All-Time Low
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So, if you don't respect their reasoning for watching, they are racist.
But if they don't respect the players position, also racist.
Cool.
It's how you're spending your morning already, prick.
as I said above, protesting the sins of our past and some sins of our present is fine. BUT dont step up on a soap box and preach AND then accept checks from the Chinese. Today, right now, people are being ethnically cleansed via either murder or rape and children are working in slave labor camps.
F* China!
Nobody every talks about the Stanley Cup Playoff ratings being down 61% or World Series being down 36% to the lowest rating ever or Master and US Open Golf being down 50+% or CFB CG being down 27% despite Bama/OSU match-up or NFL ratings which have long-endured were down 9%.
Always about the NBA.
Always about the NBA.
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I'm sure that has nothing to do with most people on this board being from the south and never watching NHL to start with.
Only racism.
didn't know the TV ratings for the NHL only included TI members, very interesting!
The point is people on here post trash articles like the one the OP posted, and take it for the gospel while also yelling about fake news and how journalism is dead. There isn't one ounce of decent reporting in the article, because if there was, it would mention the heavy decline in sports viewership among all sports, especially NHL and MLB where the whole "woke problem" isn't even a thing. So, it's pretty easy to figure out by doing 2 minutes of actual thinking that that isn't the reason people didn't tune into the all-star game
I wonder how much of the viewership drop is due to people like myself. I watched sports pretty much every day from the age of 10 up until last March. I had NBA League Pass, Red Zone, and MLB TV. Then all of a sudden sports stopped about a year ago. I found myself fishing more, playing a ton of tennis in the evenings and playing more golf/tennis with my days off. My kids also reached the age where they have activities of their own that fill a lot of our schedule. I no longer subscribe the League Pass or MLB TV. The only two players I can name in all of college basketball right now are Simms and Honor. I haven't watched more than 10 minutes of a single Clemson basketball game all year and I missed 3 football games in their entirety this past season. I still watch/order the UFC but I think that's mostly because it was the first thing to return and most of their events start after my kids have gone to bed. I don't think the social justice aspect caused me to stop watching. I just found other things that I enjoy more than sitting on the couch and watching games.
Because it was Tampa Bay and Dallas. Thats like having Oregon St and UVA in the CFP finals.
Plus 17, 18 and 19 were among the highest rated finals ever, largely because they had Pittsburgh, Boston and then amazing story lines with St Louis and Washington winning their firsts and Las Vegas making the finals in their first season.
Yeah, the problem I have with threads like this is the narrative that the NBA is down because of their social justice. That’s just not true. They are doing well comparatively speaking. Their salaries are thru the roof.
Also, pulling for them not to do well is weak. I don’t agree with the kneeling but it doesn’t affect me to the extent that makes me angry. The various T-shirts are stupid to me. Donations to the various causes are terrific. Speaking up during a political climate where famous people are more prevalent is good too (although I wish all famous people would stay the hell out of politics - including DT).
With that said, I like ball so I’m going to keep watching and hope they find more refined ways to advocate their respective causes.
I don’t doubt that you’ve talked to people that have quit watching sports bc of the politics involved...
But I highly doubt most people have said “them ruining everything”...
Perhaps they’ve said they are tired of the kneeling or the continuous BLM stuff or whatever, but that doesn’t have quite the same effect as “them ruining everything” does so, in typical liberal fashion, you distort the truth to fit your narrative...
Basically, you made that up...
Golf viewership is not down 50%...golf has seen a bigger surge than any other sport in the last year.
Article from 2003 talking about Sports rating decline but the " right wing woke" think it's over BLM and anything else that sets them over the edge
Sorry but it's lightweight funny that people who suffer from cultural anxiety that latch onto these fringe media publications that specialized in ideology difference of race and politics eat this BS up.
For the informed sports ratings have been declining for the last 20+ years. Before white supremacists sympathizer were force to look upon themselves, before ephebophile Trump, before Obama, before Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. As I said people need to look at their own cultural anxiety
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Sorry but it's lightweight funny that people who suffer from cultural anxiety that latch onto these fringe media publications that specialized in ideology difference of race and politics eat this BS up.
For the informed sports ratings have been declining for the last 20+ years. Before white supremacists sympathizer were force to look upon themselves, before ephebophile Trump, before Obama, before Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. As I said people need to look at their own cultural anxiety
TV SPORTS; The Decline and Fall of Sports Ratings (Published 2003)
Television ratings for major sporting events, such as tennis and golf's US Open and the NBA finals, are down as much as 52 percent since last year (M)
There are activities in society that have a side effect of bringing people together. Politics splits them apart. When you start injecting politics into these activities it's like driving a stake into wood. It splits, fractures and divides people.
Church, sports and family gatherings. Every one of these activities serve to bring people together who otherwise likely lead very different lives with very different interests. The moment that any of them get hijacked because people believe they have a right to your ears, it drives people away.
When people in church start talking about Trump or Obama, it takes the focus away from Christ and divides the church body ultimately driving many away entirely. There's no greater example of a place where politics has no business and the damage to the institution is devastating. But people still do it because they love "politician X" or "cause X" more than they love Jesus and the great commission. If you can believe that your need to preach politics is worth driving people away from Christ, hopefully it will serve as an example of your misplaced priorities.
Outside of church, sports brings communities together. They cheer, follow, celebrate, travel and talk in a way that unifies people of all economic backgrounds. And then politics are brought in and destroys all of that.
How many people have watched family members skip Thanksgiving or Christmas gatherings because of political fall out? Do you think it's worth families being pushed apart so that you can make people listen to your political stance?
There's guilt from every side of the political isle and it all comes from this misguided notion that you have a right to make other people listen to you. Before the internet, the only chance a random person had to convince me of their point of view was to meet me in person and have a conversation with me in a civil manner. A right to free speech is not a right to make others listen.
The costs are absolutely not worth it. The only people who pursue those avenues for their political speech do it for one of two reasons:
1) They don't realize what they are doing (ignorance)
2) They do realize what they are doing and wish to cause more division (malice)
I never used that term, not once. It certainly is disappointing to have words put in my mouth.
It's almost like having the Masters or US Open on a football weekend is going to affect the ratings. Now cite the ratings from the 2019 Masters....you know, the one that an interracial golfer won.
Cherry picking numbers is my favorite.
Golf ratings were up all summer and are off to a great start this year. Obviously the summer is partially due to no other sports being on but golf is growing at a rapid pace so to cherry pick two majors played on football weekends and compare them to previous iterations of those tournaments in totally different months makes you look uninformed.
I don't think the NBA is targeted because of their social justice stances, I think they are targeted for their obvious hypocrisy of their social justice stances. Lebron is all woke, until it affects his money or his family (or the facts that he uses for his opinion are proven false). Then he's all limo liberal. You've got Pop and Steve Kerr that are all over the mic for every other issue until it becomes an uncomfortable conversation for them. The NBA is all lamenting the decline of the HBCU and even donated the All Star profits to HBCUs. Not one of the all stars has ever set foot on an HBCU and wouldn't have even given them a sniff during recruiting.
I don't believe other leagues have fallen as much because like it or love it, the NFLs first rule is protect the shield. You know where they stand. Sure they are for "end racism" in the endzone and will promote social causes. But in the end for the NFL its about making sure the product on the field makes them money. That is their platform and they are consistent about it.
Article from 2003 talking about Sports rating decline but the " right wing woke" think it's over BLM and anything else that sets them over the edge
Sorry but it's lightweight funny that people who suffer from cultural anxiety that latch onto these fringe media publications that specialized in ideology difference of race and politics eat this BS up.
For the informed sports ratings have been declining for the last 20+ years. Before white supremacists sympathizer were force to look upon themselves, before ephebophile Trump, before Obama, before Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. As I said people need to look at their own cultural anxiety
TV SPORTS; The Decline and Fall of Sports Ratings (Published 2003)
Television ratings for major sporting events, such as tennis and golf's US Open and the NBA finals, are down as much as 52 percent since last year (M)
So your saying it started with the de-masculinization of men that started about that time and is only getting worse. Correct? Or it could be that there are just so many more entertainment options now than their were 20 years ago. It's amazing how we always try to make simple correlations on complex issues. It's also sad that the first correlation anyone wants to make is race. Nobody really takes the time to analyze situations and we are always so quick with the hot takes. This is a big issue with everything these days.
Where is all this politics in your life you can’t escape? Sounds like talking points you hear others say but don’t understand. Do you work in politics? Do your coworkers annoy you about politics 24/7? Is your social life consumed with political arguments? Or are you simply regurgitating a talking point you don’t understand ?
I don't think I have ever agreed with one of your posts. If I did I don't remember it.
Count this as like #1 from me. Well said.
I don't believe in social justice. Like seriously, I don't believe in it.
I do believe in equal opportunity and the justice system and due legal process which should be applied the same and equally among all people.
That's about it lol.
So when I see this nonsense on sports programming I change the channel for a bit then return when I think they are done. I want to watch sports and hear sports commentary....That's it.
I would rather watch paint dry than see and hear some of this social justice nonsense.
I do believe in equal opportunity and the justice system and due legal process which should be applied the same and equally among all people.
That's about it lol.
So when I see this nonsense on sports programming I change the channel for a bit then return when I think they are done. I want to watch sports and hear sports commentary....That's it.
I would rather watch paint dry than see and hear some of this social justice nonsense.
No doubt more entertainment options, people work more not too mention every news organization that has sports which can update you on everything in no time. We could configure a list on why without adding race and politics but we both know facts are not sexy or contriv
I am 66 years old and lived through plenty of racism. You got more experience than that?
Here's what you fail to understand, just because we have gotten better as a society in regards to race, doesn't mean racism no longer exists. Once upon a time people said, "i'm not racist because I don't own slaves." Further on it was "I don't use the N word so i'm not racist." Now it's "I don't outwardly do anything to hurt black people so i'm clearly not racist."
Racism has levels. Learn to think in nuance.
as long as your statement applies to all races I agree. Whites are not the only race capable of being racist.
So at what level does it have to get to in order to be considered racism in your opinion?
Separate water fountains?
Hanging guys from trees?
What the hell is "True Racism"? I really want to know.
No you’re not. I’d bet a large sum on that. You’re a young troll. It’s clear.
Racism is growing again because of people like you. The more you tell people how racist they are, the more racist they become iyam.
I get so tired of hearing your kind say to think in nuance while at the same time applying this nuanced thinking to broad swaths of people. Oxymoronic iyam.
Racism means that you think you are better than another based solely on race. Or you hate someone because of their race.
Those things aren’t happening often in the real world imho. I don’t hear people murmuring the n word, or excluding kids because of color, or other things that used to happen frequently.
But now, stereotyping is considered racism. I think that’s bullshit. The funniest comedies in history have centered around stereotypes. All of us stereotype people, one way or another.
Blacks and whites should be equal under law. They should have the same opportunities in life. Both should be able to be pulled over by the cops and not fear for their well fair. But the two races have stereotypes that are accurate. Telling me I can’t talk about those is insulting.
Chris Rock, Richard Prior, Jamie Foxx... you name it. These guys made hilarious comments about race, both ways, that were accurate and so funny. But now, nobody else is allowed that room to speak. It’s dumb.
This is exactly how I’d expect you to respond. so narrow minded. Sad for you buddy.
Don't be sad for me. My life is pretty spectacular tbh. I have great freinds and family, of all races and sexual orientations. I am secure where my heart is. I know who I am, and the people who interact with me irl know too.
this is ridiculous.
1. you have no idea how to prove that 2nd sentence
2. even if they didn't play at an HBCU it doesn't mean that they don't care about HBCU's declining
3. most people in their teenage years don't give a shit about any of this stuff, and it's not til they're older and they have a platform they can use to enact change that they try to do anything.
lol people are choosing to be more racist just to spite people? what kind of dumb shit is that
if someone calling you out or making you feel uncomfortable because of something you said/did leads you to doing more of that thing, then you're just a shitty person. self reflection goes a long way. if you took a minute and tried to understand their point of view instead of doubling down on whatever you were doing, then you both would probably be able to learn alot
