Hillary - Election Denier

[Jjh7]

this entire subject is just depressing that it exists. i mean its obvious our election process is just kinda cobbled together...with the technology we have at this point, how has there not been a bipartisan effort to actually solve something for once and create a system that would virtually ensure complete accuracy and ensure it will provide transparency. dems denied 2000 and 2016 quite vocally though they like to overlook those threats to democracy. trump questioned 2020. hillary already questioning 2024. seems like the kinda thing a competent, functional govt would find common interest to work together on. the states should all be modernizing how they track voting - its really not that hard in 2022. at least one of them should take the lead here.

and anyone who says there were no oddities with the 2020 election is burying their head in the sand. does that mean i'm saying the election was stolen? no, idiot who will invariably declare it so anyway. there have been legal rulings ending drop-box voting for one - and this is not a subject i follow closely nor particularly have any interest in rehashing - but there absolutely were curiosities regardless of any accusation of fraud being assigned. that doesn't mean it was stolen, as again that is not my position. but clearly the reason behind that ruling involves election integrity. there's a reason amazon was so against drop boxes in their union vote. why take a problem solving approach though? would have one less thing to rally the donors with any time they lose an election

 

[OleFastball]

this entire subject is just depressing that it exists. i mean its obvious our election process is just kinda cobbled together...with the technology we have at this point, how has there not been a bipartisan effort to actually solve something for once and create a system that would virtually ensure complete accuracy and ensure it will provide transparency. dems denied 2000 and 2016 quite vocally though they like to overlook those threats to democracy. trump questioned 2020. hillary already questioning 2024. seems like the kinda thing a competent, functional govt would find common interest to work together on. the states should all be modernizing how they track voting - its really not that hard in 2022. at least one of them should take the lead here.

and anyone who says there were no oddities with the 2020 election is burying their head in the sand. does that mean i'm saying the election was stolen? no, idiot who will invariably declare it so anyway. there have been legal rulings ending drop-box voting for one - and this is not a subject i follow closely nor particularly have any interest in rehashing - but there absolutely were curiosities regardless of any accusation of fraud being assigned. that doesn't mean it was stolen, as again that is not my position. but clearly the reason behind that ruling involves election integrity. there's a reason amazon was so against drop boxes in their union vote. why take a problem solving approach though? would have one less thing to rally the donors with any time they lose an election

I agree with your post 100%.

Not having faith in the vote is different than thinking it was stolen. Its a vote of no confidence.

Everyone of all political stripes should want an honest, fair and accurate vote. The technology should be obtainable. I look at recent advances made in cryptography (BTC, ETH etc) and it just seems that a fair and secure method should be obtainable. Would be great to see something like that in the future.

 

[nytigerfan]

So he lacks empathy because he said it's easy for him to vote? That's what drove your word salad post about how he's driving us to the edge of societies end?

My god AOC, pull yourself together.

It is such a remedial concept, yet you cannot grasp it. sad.

 

[scotchtiger]

You are one of the more reasonable conservative posters on here. But one of your biggest weaknesses is that you see the world only through your own eyes. It is super easy for you to vote in your affluent white suburb so you assume it is the same for everyone.

You display a serious lack of empathy to your fellow man. Lack of empathy is going to be one of the downfalls of our society. I heard your prophet joe Rogan discussion this with HR McMaster recently. So it ain’t just a liberal view.

It's a reasonable criticism, and even my wife probably would agree with you that empathy isn't my best characteristic. I do expect able-bodied adults to do basic tasks. Like, for example, work to earn money. Or vote in the variety of ways now offered. I understand that we continue to lower our expectations for our fellow Americans, and I do lag behind that lowered bar.

I understand my situation isn't the same for all. I can golf cart to my polling location. I have a somewhat flexible work schedule. I get that.

But, there are plenty of very easy ways for others in a different situation to vote. We have now expanded mail-in voting. It used to just be for legitimate absentee reasons. We now have early voting. WEEKS of time for you to pop into a polling location. Depending on where you are, the bar for documenting who you are is exceptionally low. 95% of people have some sort of basic ID. GA lets you use a utility bill and other extremely basic ways to identify yourself.

Just because it's even easier for me, doesn't mean that it isn't easy for most people to vote. 2022 will be the most accessible non-pandemic election in history.

I would also say that it's not a "serious lack of empathy" that guides my other positions. I just have a different view of the solution to the same problems that we both know exist. Instead of checks and handouts, I'd prefer training and job readiness. I'd like to see nutrition investment in food deserts, which will improve health outcomes and reduce medicaid and healthcare subsidy spend. I'd like to see a transformation of vocational and trade education for non-college bound students. I'd like to see a reformed student loan plan that incentivizes competition for favorable loans in STEM, education and medical fields, not this silly loan forgiveness nonsense.

Simply, I want to fix the underlying issues creating problems, not hand out checks to those that have problems.

 

[dpic73]

Evidence:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

Mark Zuckerberg ADMITS On Joe Rogan Podcast FBI Told Them To Bury Biden Laptop! Same With Twitter!

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Theater Showings - 2000 Mules

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There is a reason that "election deniers" are polling very well going into the mid-terms. And its not all because of Sleepy Joes inflation.

Hahahahahahaha!

You've got to have the IQ of a shoe if you believe the bullshit 2000 Mules movie. It has been thoroughly debunked and get this - the Attorney General of Arizona, who is a MAGA lovin election denier is suing True the Vote for lying about having evidence that proved voter fraud. You know you're a potato if you still believe it after that LMAO.

So now you're left with the bullshit Hunter Biden laptop theory, which I've already addressed.

Again, you have NO EVIDENCE that supports voter fraud yet you have a mountain of evidence that supports the election was clean and accurate - why have you removed all critical thinking skills from the equation in favor of being an abject dumbass?

You are the problem!

 

[OleFastball]

Hahahahahahaha!

You've got to have the IQ of a shoe if you believe the bullshit 2000 Mules movie. It has been thoroughly debunked and get this - the Attorney General of Arizona, who is a MAGA lovin election denier is suing True the Vote for lying about having evidence that proved voter fraud. You know you're a potato if you still believe it after that LMAO.

So now you're left with the bullshit Hunter Biden laptop theory, which I've already addressed.

Again, you have NO EVIDENCE that supports voter fraud yet you have a mountain of evidence that supports the election was clean and accurate - why have you removed all critical thinking skills from the equation in favor of being an abject dumbass?

You are the problem!

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

Mark Zuckerberg ADMITS On Joe Rogan Podcast FBI Told Them To Bury Biden Laptop! Same With Twitter!​

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Theater Showings - 2000 Mules​

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[dpic73]

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

Mark Zuckerberg ADMITS On Joe Rogan Podcast FBI Told Them To Bury Biden Laptop! Same With Twitter!​

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Theater Showings - 2000 Mules​

2000mules.com

HUGE! 😅 🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂 You are pathetic!

Trump Admits To Authorizing Stormy Daniels Payoff, Denies Sexual Encounter

In a Fox News interview, the former New York mayor turned presidential lawyer appeared to contradict the president's claims not to have known about the 2016 payment.

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National Enquirer publisher fined $187,500 for Trump hush money payment

The FEC found that the cash the tabloid paid to keep Karen McDougal quiet about her alleged affair with Donald Trump was an unlawful campaign contribution.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[OleFastball]

HUGE! 😅 🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂 You are pathetic!

Trump Admits To Authorizing Stormy Daniels Payoff, Denies Sexual Encounter

In a Fox News interview, the former New York mayor turned presidential lawyer appeared to contradict the president's claims not to have known about the 2016 payment.

www.npr.org

National Enquirer publisher fined $187,500 for Trump hush money payment

The FEC found that the cash the tabloid paid to keep Karen McDougal quiet about her alleged affair with Donald Trump was an unlawful campaign contribution.

www.nbcnews.com

I think you secretly love Trump. You literal Lee can’t stop posting about him.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I've been voting this way long before the pandemic because it's easier and there's nothing wrong with it. Why wait in a line for hours if you don't have to?

I didn't need a dropbox but I believe it's more secure than mailing it.

Edit - I mailed my ballot this year on the 17th, instead of driving 8 miles through Atlanta traffic to a dropbox and the election portal still doesn't show my ballot as being received. It showed that it was accepted in the next day or two when I used a dropbox in the past.

Welcome to the pub party. I have friends at post office. We will make sure your vote gets processed properly comrade.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Hahahahahahaha!

You've got to have the IQ of a shoe if you believe the bullshit 2000 Mules movie. It has been thoroughly debunked and get this - the Attorney General of Arizona, who is a MAGA lovin election denier is suing True the Vote for lying about having evidence that proved voter fraud. You know you're a potato if you still believe it after that LMAO.

So now you're left with the bullshit Hunter Biden laptop theory, which I've already addressed.

Again, you have NO EVIDENCE that supports voter fraud yet you have a mountain of evidence that supports the election was clean and accurate - why have you removed all critical thinking skills from the equation in favor of being an abject dumbass?

You are the problem!

So 2000 mules was debunked? Please explain how. The geo tracking of cellphones is used nationwide by law enforcement including on J6 and both major parties use it extensively in creating voter outreach strategies.

 

[dpic73]

So 2000 mules was debunked? Please explain how. The geo tracking of cellphones is used nationwide by law enforcement including on J6 and both major parties use it extensively in creating voter outreach strategies.

LMAO, do you really think there's anything I could say that would change your hardcore beliefs? There's not a single fact about the election you've believed to this point so I'm not going to waste my time now haha.

Click it

Has 2000 Mules Been Debunked?

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'Has 2000 mules been debunked?' themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

 

[dpic73]

I think you secretly love Trump. You literal Lee can’t stop posting about him.

And I will continue to remind you of his vile immorality every chance I get ;-)

 

[TigerGrowls]

LMAO, do you really think there's anything I could say that would change your hardcore beliefs? There's not a single fact about the election you've believed to this point so I'm not going to waste my time now haha.

Click it

Has 2000 Mules Been Debunked?

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'Has 2000 mules been debunked?' themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

2000 mules has NOT been debunked by any credible group.

 

[dpic73]

2000 mules has NOT been debunked by any credible group.

You are hilarious! We know you don't believe any media group unless they state the election was stolen and you only trust people who lie profusely. And if we're honest - you are a little bit crazy. So who would you call a credible group? I can assure the the GWP isn't one of them LOL.

But you really don't even need anything more than common sense to know the movie didn't prove a damn thing. Cell phone pings are not ballots or people at dropboxes. They don't tell you anything other than someone was in the area - someone who may work in that area or live in the area. Are they suspicious just because they pass a dropbox on the way to work or to go shopping? Are they suspicious because they were wearing gloves during the coldest time of the year at the height of COVID? Even if they did drop a batch of ballots in a dropbox, you don't know if they were Dem or Repub ballots. Bottom line, the movie proved NOTHING. C'mon dude - think!

Almost everyone trusts the AP and Reuters - two neutral news organizations(to MOST people)

FACT FOCUS: Gaping holes in the claim of 2K ballot ‘mules’

A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses a flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended.

apnews.com

Fact Check-Does ‘2000 Mules’ provide evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 U.S. presidential election?

A documentary directed by conservative commentator Dinesh D’Souza claims it can prove widespread fraud was carried out during the 2020 presidential election in the United States. Reuters Fact Check examined the main claims presented in the film and did not find any concrete...

www.reuters.com

The MAGA AG of Az is even investigating TTV for fraud. READ THIS PLEASE

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2022-10/202210141445.pdf

Trump's AG says it's bullshit

User Clip: Former AG Barr on the 2000 Mules Movie (i.e. laughable)

William Barr: "My opinion then and my opinion now is that the Election was not stolen by fraud. And I haven't seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that. Including the 200 mules movie. *laughs*"

www.c-span.org

I could go on but what more do you need??

 

[TigerGrowls]

You are hilarious! We know you don't believe any media group unless they state the election was stolen and you only trust people who lie profusely. And if we're honest - you are a little bit crazy. So who would you call a credible group? I can assure the the GWP isn't one of them LOL.

But you really don't even need anything more than common sense to know the movie didn't prove a damn thing. Cell phone pings are not ballots or people at dropboxes. They don't tell you anything other than someone was in the area - someone who may work in that area or live in the area. Are they suspicious just because they pass a dropbox on the way to work or to go shopping? Are they suspicious because they were wearing gloves during the coldest time of the year at the height of COVID? Even if they did drop a batch of ballots in a dropbox, you don't know if they were Dem or Repub ballots. Bottom line, the movie proved NOTHING. C'mon dude - think!

Almost everyone trusts the AP and Reuters - two neutral news organizations(to MOST people)

FACT FOCUS: Gaping holes in the claim of 2K ballot ‘mules’

A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses a flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended.

apnews.com

Fact Check-Does ‘2000 Mules’ provide evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 U.S. presidential election?

A documentary directed by conservative commentator Dinesh D’Souza claims it can prove widespread fraud was carried out during the 2020 presidential election in the United States. Reuters Fact Check examined the main claims presented in the film and did not find any concrete...

www.reuters.com

The MAGA AG of Az is even investigating TTV for fraud. READ THIS PLEASE

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2022-10/202210141445.pdf

Trump's AG says it's bullshit

User Clip: Former AG Barr on the 2000 Mules Movie (i.e. laughable)

William Barr: "My opinion then and my opinion now is that the Election was not stolen by fraud. And I haven't seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that. Including the 200 mules movie. *laughs*"

www.c-span.org

I could go on but what more do you need??

Key word - credible. None of this is credible. I have seen 2000 mules and i have read the detractors and made my decision that 2000 Mules is legit and correct.

 

[dpic73]

Key word - credible. None of this is credible. I have seen 2000 mules and i have read the detractors and made my decision that 2000 Mules is legit and correct.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Someone posted this in another thread but really needs it's own given how wreck-less and irresponsible this is........almost guaranteeing riots if the outcome isn't democrat. I'm assuming you liberals have a HUGE problem with this given how vocal you've been against election deniers?

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I ABSOLUTELY have a problem with it. If you are going to accuse people of wide spread election fraud, you need actual proof that will stand up in court.

I'm surprised that any of you Trumpians have a problem though. As long as you accuse someone, that should be enough right? No proof needed. Just tell everyone you have the evidence and even if it gets laughed out of court it's all good.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Key word - credible. None of this is credible. I have seen 2000 mules and i have read the detractors and made my decision that 2000 Mules is legit and correct.

You made your decision when Trump told you that you thought the election was stolen. You didn't need any proof. Trump spoke and that was enough for you. You telling us anything else is laughable. No proof will ever sway you and ANYTHING, no matter how crazy or unlikely that says the election was not legit is embraced as Gospel.

 

[TigerRagRob]

 

[iceheart08]

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I'm not gonna watch the video. But if she's saying vote totals are vulnerable to online hacking, at least in Colorado, where we run the most accessible and secure elections in the country, alongside all-mail balloting, she's wrong. Those machines are not connected to the internet.

 

[TigerRagRob]

I'm not gonna watch the video. But if she's saying vote totals are vulnerable to online hacking, at least in Colorado, where we run the most accessible and secure elections in the country, alongside all-mail balloting, she's wrong. Those machines are not connected to the internet.

None of them should be connected. I think we agree there??? On a side note not involving politics, how do you think we do in the World Cup?

 

[anon_5e8aassgcbjz1]

You made your decision when Trump told you that you thought the election was stolen. You didn't need any proof. Trump spoke and that was enough for you. You telling us anything else is laughable. No proof will ever sway you and ANYTHING, no matter how crazy or unlikely that says the election was not legit is embraced as Gospel.

Heads I win, tails you lose