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I know a lot of people here don't like Trump but...

Yes, I believe Trump would ask either Kasich or Rubio to run with him if he got the nomination, and I bet both would accept if offered. I NEVER said I supported Trump. I just answered the OP's original question, doucebag. And, yes, Kasich would make a good president but he doesn't poll very well.

I would LOVE to see Donald Trump take his "build a wall" show on the road while standing beside a Latino vice presidential candidate. It would too rich for words.
 
Just curious, coming from someone who said they have voted republican the majority of their political life, which of the issues that Cruz supports makes him equally as objectionable as the left wing self-proclaimed socialists Bernie Sanders?

From what I can tell Cruz is pretty consistent with Republican views that many on that side of the isle support and more or less have supported since the days of Reagan. Is there something else about him you don't like? Just curious.
Just the fact that he unnerves so many on the GOP side of the isle. Just don't feel comfortable with him, no disrespect. Less of a worry than Trump, who scares the hell out of me. Sure wouldn't want to get on his bad side if he wins(Trump).
 
So are you then calling my students liars as well? Have you walked with me day after day or even one day to see what I do for the kids in my school?Are you there when I buy players on my teams meals several nights out of the week because they don't have food at home or when I drive them home because no one at home will come get them? Let me answer all those for you...no. You have no clue who I am and what I do for my kids. Unlike you I will not assume you're lying when you say that you've never come in contact with 1 kid that had no ambition in life. Thank God for that. It is a blessing no doubt. I have and continue to work daily to help those kids see a better future despite what you think.

I mean what do I have to gain from lying about that? Internet support from 2 people on the third page of a thread on TI? Really man? Come on. You're smart enough to know better. Some kids get depressed and give up on life. I see more and more of it and it's sad.
I deal with a lot of kids, as I am a foster parent. I think the problem with kids today, ALL Kids, is so many of them feel they are entitled to everything. I am not talking about the poor kids, ALL kids. So many feel that if they don't have the newest game system, the newest Nikes, latest designer clothes, newest I phone, electronics, etc., than they are deprived. I am not saying there are not good kids out there, cause there are. It is just such a different world than 30-40 years ago.
 
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I gave up the GOP when they went moderately left years ago. They have zero interest in America and We the People. Great gosh Almighty, the f'ing GOP DESPISED Reagan. Thank God Trump and Cruz aren't part of what you refer to.

With all due respect, you sound like folks that voted for a party because their parents did...whether Democrat or Republican. I'm certain you're a super intelliigent person, but if you ASSUME the GOP is still the GOP you refer to you're wrong. They want you to believe that. If YOU don't take the time to seriously monitor politics and your politicians, you can only blame yourself why it is what it is.

Since 2010 there "We the People" HAVE started paying attention. Look no further than the lections of 2010 and the freaking route in 2014. If you want things to remain status quo my brother, there are 3 of me that will WORK to change that status quo.

GB you...and GB America.
I'm a republican because I believe in the Free market, limited government, gun rights, and a limited number of social causes, including being pro life. Gay marriage, deportation, and Obama Care do not bother me much at all. I would however be very upset about pursuit of a single payer system. If old folks who aren't interested in our country solving problems and want the same country we had in 88 want to elect trump or Cruz, as I said... I'm content to let the tent burn down and await reformation of the two party system.
 
Yep, its looking like I will also be voting for Gary Johnson once again.
Ave yearly defense budget 2002-09 = 639.9 billion. Ave yearly defense budget 2010 -15 = 663.9 billion. Where is the cut part? It's kind of like Cruz's current S.C. TV ad where Obama has cut Ft. Jackson by 1/2. Actual: 180 civilian employees cut.. No military personnel.
 
Can't ever support Donald Trump. He only promises things will be great under him. Never once has he explained how he is going to improve the quality of American lives. Just says if he is elected, America will win again. We will beat the Japanese. I didn't know we were fighting the Japanese. Mexico will build a wall and pay for it. America will be better than at any time in its history.

Oh, and during his victory speech in NH, he quoted some source as saying unemployment is 42 percent. Yeah, sure Donald. Whatever.

Americans say they want the truth from their politicians. No they don't. If they wanted the truth, the candidates would tell them that entitlement reform means everyone is going to get less from government retirement and medical programs than they thought they would. The truth would mean that if we are to increase our defense spending, we will need to raise taxes. The truth would mean that if we are going to make major repairs to our roads and bridges, the gas tax will need to be raised.

I don't agree with (m)any of Bernie Sanders' goals but at least he is honest in saying that if he had his way, taxes would go up for everyone.

But Americans don't want the truth. Donald Trump knows that they want platitudes. And he gives the voters that in spades. And the people eat it up. And they tell him they love him because he tells it like it is. He only tells it like his supporters WISHES it were. But they are too naive to recognize that.
 
Can't ever support Donald Trump. He only promises things will be great under him. Never once has he explained how he is going to improve the quality of American lives. Just says if he is elected, America will win again. We will beat the Japanese. I didn't know we were fighting the Japanese. Mexico will build a wall and pay for it. America will be better than at any time in its history.

Oh, and during his victory speech in NH, he quoted some source as saying unemployment is 42 percent. Yeah, sure Donald. Whatever.

Americans say they want the truth from their politicians. No they don't. If they wanted the truth, the candidates would tell them that entitlement reform means everyone is going to get less from government retirement and medical programs than they thought they would. The truth would mean that if we are to increase our defense spending, we will need to raise taxes. The truth would mean that if we are going to make major repairs to our roads and bridges, the gas tax will need to be raised.

I don't agree with (m)any of Bernie Sanders' goals but at least he is honest in saying that if he had his way, taxes would go up for everyone.

But Americans don't want the truth. Donald Trump knows that they want platitudes. And he gives the voters that in spades. And the people eat it up. And they tell him they love him because he tells it like it is. He only tells it like his supporters WISHES it were. But they are too naive to recognize that.
the average american lacks the scientific and mathematic literacy to know what the truth is... unless it is in the Bible, then it is obviously true.
 
I voted for Trump for a lot of reasons. Those reasons still stand. The new reason is that I support law and order and that I don't want my neighborhood turned into a burnt out wasetland like the city neighborhoods governed by the Democrats.

Oh, and I want to give him 4 more years to appoint federal justices (to include the supreme court).
 
This was a great read.


Hahahahahahahahaha some of y’all should be ashamed!
Lots of people who seem pretty flexible based on who’s got power. Wish I’d been more right about the second half of this:
I guess I don't see Trump as a conservative either, so I still probably wouldn't vote for him. I also think he would have no idea how to govern a country and would leave the institution of the presidency in tatters. That's if he was elected. Even if he wasn't elected, he might shatter the Republican Party as a viable way of organizing people on the right. I mean, I'd personally be embarrassed to say that I voted for or supported his campaign in any way. So I'd almost rather a known commodity like Hillary be elected than Trump.

On the other hand, I think a pretty viable third party candidate (who would be the candidate of most people who normally vote Republican) would appear if it looked like Trump was getting the nomination. I'd probably vote for that person, even if it was Bloomberg.

All that said, Trump won't be getting the nomination.
 
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Let's face it, if you're a conservative & he wins the Republican nomination, you're gonna vote for him...cause there's no way in hell you're voting for Hillary or Bernie...

So, if Trump does win the nomination, who would you like to see him choose as his running mate?

Or...who do you think could help him the most in the general election?

I’d like to say something to those who don’t like Trump. We’ve had two Presidents since Woodrow Wilson who were not part of the NWO, JFK & Trump. JFK was assassinated because he was going to expose the NWO before he got out of office. They’ve been trying to get Trump out of office since he got into office. Because he’s NOT one of them.

We are in the Tribulation, the First Seal has been opened, The Rider on The White Horse, that’s the Antichrist, he’s been in power for 7 years.

Revelation 13 speaks of two beasts, the first beast is Papal Rome, The Antichrist & The NWO. The second beast is a Lamb with 2 horns, representing America, the two horns represents Religious & Civil Liberty. But it says we start “Speaking like a dragon!” This means that we end up having a draconian dictator who passes draconian laws, outrageous Tax Rates, Agenda 21, where they will tell us where we can & can’t live & visit. They will pass a Global Climate Change Tax a Global Carbon Footprint Tax. They will cause everyone, small & great, rich & poor, free & bond to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead (Mark of The Beast) Those who don’t receive it, won’t be able to buy or sell. (Revelation 13)! They will make us worship the Antichrist! Those who refuse to do so will be terminated (Revelation 13)

I strongly encourage y’all to learn about the NWO, the antichrist & Papal Rome & The Vatican! These entities make up the Beast System & these are the Satanist who will enslave us. I encourage you to read Daniel 7, the 4th Beast is the NWO/Papal Rome & The Antichrist. I also encourage you to read Revelation 6 & following! The first 5 Plagues are what they will do to us. The next 16 are what GOD will do to them & those who take the “Mark of the Beast (Computer Chip) & Worship the Antichrist!

Only one of these Presidential Candidates will do the things mentioned above & it Ain’t Trump! Do your due diligence!
 
I’d like to say something to those who don’t like Trump. We’ve had two Presidents since Woodrow Wilson who were not part of the NWO, JFK & Trump. JFK was assassinated because he was going to expose the NWO before he got out of office. They’ve been trying to get Trump out of office since he got into office. Because he’s NOT one of them.

We are in the Tribulation, the First Seal has been opened, The Rider on The White Horse, that’s the Antichrist, he’s been in power for 7 years.

Revelation 13 speaks of two beasts, the first beast is Papal Rome, The Antichrist & The NWO. The second beast is a Lamb with 2 horns, representing America, the two horns represents Religious & Civil Liberty. But it says we start “Speaking like a dragon!” This means that we end up having a draconian dictator who passes draconian laws, outrageous Tax Rates, Agenda 21, where they will tell us where we can & can’t live & visit. They will pass a Global Climate Change Tax a Global Carbon Footprint Tax. They will cause everyone, small & great, rich & poor, free & bond to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead (Mark of The Beast) Those who don’t receive it, won’t be able to buy or sell. (Revelation 13)! They will make us worship the Antichrist! Those who refuse to do so will be terminated (Revelation 13)

I strongly encourage y’all to learn about the NWO, the antichrist & Papal Rome & The Vatican! These entities make up the Beast System & these are the Satanist who will enslave us. I encourage you to read Daniel 7, the 4th Beast is the NWO/Papal Rome & The Antichrist. I also encourage you to read Revelation 6 & following! The first 5 Plagues are what they will do to us. The next 16 are what GOD will do to them & those who take the “Mark of the Beast (Computer Chip) & Worship the Antichrist!

Only one of these Presidential Candidates will do the things mentioned above & it Ain’t Trump! Do your due diligence!
Trump seems like the most likely NWO member we’ve ever had as president
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But this thread should now be officially killed
 
Let's face it, if you're a conservative & he wins the Republican nomination, you're gonna vote for him...cause there's no way in hell you're voting for Hillary or Bernie...

So, if Trump does win the nomination, who would you like to see him choose as his running mate?

Or...who do you think could help him the most in the general election?

I think most people on here like Trump. SC is a red state and by and large, this is a red board. Those of us who don't like him (like me) really really don't like him. And we make a lot of noise. Again, I don't think that everything Trump does is bad... far from it. BUT I do believe that he is fundamentally a very bad person and is WRONG for our country.
 
I’d like to say something to those who don’t like Trump. We’ve had two Presidents since Woodrow Wilson who were not part of the NWO, JFK & Trump. JFK was assassinated because he was going to expose the NWO before he got out of office. They’ve been trying to get Trump out of office since he got into office. Because he’s NOT one of them.

We are in the Tribulation, the First Seal has been opened, The Rider on The White Horse, that’s the Antichrist, he’s been in power for 7 years.

Revelation 13 speaks of two beasts, the first beast is Papal Rome, The Antichrist & The NWO. The second beast is a Lamb with 2 horns, representing America, the two horns represents Religious & Civil Liberty. But it says we start “Speaking like a dragon!” This means that we end up having a draconian dictator who passes draconian laws, outrageous Tax Rates, Agenda 21, where they will tell us where we can & can’t live & visit. They will pass a Global Climate Change Tax a Global Carbon Footprint Tax. They will cause everyone, small & great, rich & poor, free & bond to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead (Mark of The Beast) Those who don’t receive it, won’t be able to buy or sell. (Revelation 13)! They will make us worship the Antichrist! Those who refuse to do so will be terminated (Revelation 13)

I strongly encourage y’all to learn about the NWO, the antichrist & Papal Rome & The Vatican! These entities make up the Beast System & these are the Satanist who will enslave us. I encourage you to read Daniel 7, the 4th Beast is the NWO/Papal Rome & The Antichrist. I also encourage you to read Revelation 6 & following! The first 5 Plagues are what they will do to us. The next 16 are what GOD will do to them & those who take the “Mark of the Beast (Computer Chip) & Worship the Antichrist!

Only one of these Presidential Candidates will do the things mentioned above & it Ain’t Trump! Do your due diligence!

I'm starting to think a functioning republican government within the traditions of western democracies simply cannot exist with our current platforms to broadly disseminate misinformation. It would seem that humans simply lack the ability to have access to so much noise and discern what to believe in and what not to. Confirmation bias prevails and distorts reality to the point where literally anything is believed rather to changing your prior convictions. Scary times. The quoted post is obviously a cartoonishly absurd example, but the same principals apply to more mainstream, widely held beliefs.
 
I'm starting to think a functioning republican government within the traditions of western democracies simply cannot exist with our current platforms to broadly disseminate misinformation. It would seem that humans simply lack the ability to have access to so much noise and discern what to believe in and what not to. Confirmation bias prevails and distorts reality to the point where literally anything is believed rather to changing your prior convictions. Scary times. The quoted post is obviously a cartoonishly absurd example, but the same principals apply to more mainstream, widely held beliefs.

I think it was Thomas Jefferson that said that a Constitutional Republic like ours, which is based on SELF GOVERNMENT, can only function in a moral Christian society.

As a country, we have lost our moral compass by not going to church; people do NOT want to be responsible for themselves and their own actions (free healthcare! Free college education! I commit crimes because of racism!); and we have a media (with a few exceptions) who no longer could care less about reporting news; they are merely political activists with an agenda.

To the Left, government is their god. Obtaining power is their goal which is justifiable by any actions.
Call the President a traitor and conspirator based on ZERO substantiated evidence? No problem.
Have a president you support give billions of dollars in cash to enemies who are sworn to kill us? No problem.
When everything you've reported for YEARS turns out to be total fabrication, barely acknowledge it and keep going.
And about 1/2 of America barely acknowledges it, and some don't even know.

At some point we are going to have another civil war if liberty is going to survive.
 
I think it was Thomas Jefferson that said that a Constitutional Republic like ours, which is based on SELF GOVERNMENT, can only function in a moral Christian society.

As a country, we have lost our moral compass by not going to church; people do NOT want to be responsible for themselves and their own actions (free healthcare! Free college education! I commit crimes because of racism!); and we have a media (with a few exceptions) who no longer could care less about reporting news; they are merely political activists with an agenda.

To the Left, government is their god. Obtaining power is their goal which is justifiable by any actions.
Call the President a traitor and conspirator based on ZERO substantiated evidence? No problem.
Have a president you support give billions of dollars in cash to enemies who are sworn to kill us? No problem.
When everything you've reported for YEARS turns out to be total fabrication, barely acknowledge it and keep going.
And about 1/2 of America barely acknowledges it, and some don't even know.

At some point we are going to have another civil war if liberty is going to survive.

But how do you know those things you think are true are actually true? You admit that you believe media outlets, with a few exceptions, don't report the news but instead are political activists, which I assume means you think they are reporting untrue things. Which outlets do you believe are the exception to this? How did you figure that out? It would require you to determine the objective truth of things (and determine them independent of the media, since they are the variable being tested) and compare the objective truth to each media outset and see which ones reports the truth and which ones don't.

My guess is that you did not do that (if it is even possible). Instead, my guess is that the media outlets reporting things in conformance with your previously held convictions are the few media outlets you have decided should be believed, due to confirmation bias. No offense intended to you; essentially everyone does this. But it highlights the point of my post: when numerous widely consumed media outlets report things in direct convention of one another (not to mention the millions of sources on social media) and, in many cases, offer opinions that the opposing point of view is hostile to you and your way of life, it's going to result in a dysfunctional republic. In my opinion, this is the reason why you believe the things you wrote in your post. And it's the reason why I don't think republication governments can flourish with the current capabilities for essentially everyone to disseminate information to everyone else. Hope I'm wrong, but it looks to me that our communication technologies have outpaced the human ability to objectively perceive the world around us.
 
I'm starting to think a functioning republican government within the traditions of western democracies simply cannot exist with our current platforms to broadly disseminate misinformation. It would seem that humans simply lack the ability to have access to so much noise and discern what to believe in and what not to. Confirmation bias prevails and distorts reality to the point where literally anything is believed rather to changing your prior convictions. Scary times. The quoted post is obviously a cartoonishly absurd example, but the same principals apply to more mainstream, widely held beliefs.

Unfortunately, Time will prove I’m right! Sit back & watch
 
This was a great read.


Hahahahahahahahaha some of y’all should be ashamed!

What's hilarous is that the OP was right. Trump got elected largely because he wasn't Hillary. Somehow the Dems took the worst presidential candidate in recorded history - and lost to him.
 
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