I Love Russia

[CUAngler]

Russia has been working harder than ever to destabilize NATO, several eastern European countries and democracies across the globe.

But you fan boys keep rubbing it out to shirtless pictures of Putin.

 

[cuphilly_10]

So a quick question to all you Trump supporters out there.

After being told repeatedly that Trump and staff had no contact with the Russians during the campaign. We now have confirmation that at least two of the staffers (former NSA Flint and now AG Sessions) did have contact. Flint obviously lied about it, and looking at the tape of the Senate Confirmation hearings, it's pretty hard to see how Sessions didn't as well.
Does this bother you?

Hanging up now and listening.

Not as much as DT being President bothers you. I mean, the first thing you did was come to a football message board that you pay $100/year for (for sports info) to make a political post.

 

[scartiger]

So, we should pander to Russia because we are scared of them? Yup, damn libs...

I'm almost positive Trump will not back down from any country.

 

[clemsonpaw00]

lol at the spin in this thread. sessions, the goddamn attorney general, lied under oath. nothing more needs to be said. he has to go.

 

[nytigerfan]

I'm not a supporter of either major party. I'm a supporter of America. I find this as big a waste of time as the Hillary emails. How does focusing on any of this crap help the American people with jobs, healthcare, or a better way of life. American politics have sucked since Bush II and our elected leaders are so focused on tearing each other down that they do zero work for the actual people who voted for them.

I disagree. We have evidence - confirmed by all of our intelligence agencies - that russia using hacking to influence OUR election for Donald Trump. Everything they did was focused on getting Trump elected. Did they influence the election? Yes. How much we really don't know, but they definitely influenced our election.

As AMERICANS, we should all damn well be wanting to know why the f&ck they did that. Why did they want Trump elected? We have a right to know. If Trump has nothing to hide, he should welcome an independent prosecutor.

 

[clemsonalex]

Yet by almost any definition TR was a modern day liberal. So, this statement is basically backwards.


So it is ok to lie to Congress then because the questions are illegitimate. If so, why even have hearings?

Excellent question and you illustrated my point: pure political theater.

 

[CreoleTiger]

So a quick question to all you Trump supporters out there.

After being told repeatedly that Trump and staff had no contact with the Russians during the campaign. We now have confirmation that at least two of the staffers (former NSA Flint and now AG Sessions) did have contact. Flint obviously lied about it, and looking at the tape of the Senate Confirmation hearings, it's pretty hard to see how Sessions didn't as well.
Does this bother you?

Hanging up now and listening.

Sessions never denied speaking with the Russian official, the question put to Sessions was specific to conversations regarding the campaign. Not difficult to understand.

 

[Marionman1973]

I disagree. We have evidence - confirmed by all of our intelligence agencies - that russia using hacking to influence OUR election for Donald Trump. Everything they did was focused on getting Trump elected. Did they influence the election? Yes. How much we really don't know, but they definitely influenced our election.

As AMERICANS, we should all damn well be wanting to know why the f&ck they did that. Why did they want Trump elected? We have a right to know. If Trump has nothing to hide, he should welcome an independent prosecutor.

Say everything you said is true - I don't believe that it is but play along for a moment. What is your remedy other than the present outcome?

 

[StSimonsIslandTiger]

No big deal. Desperate fake smoke by fading Democrats.

Soviets and Russians have been trying to influence and foul up elections for decades- they likely did less this cycle than when Obama was elected. They attempt to manipulate elections in every free country that they can. Nothing new at all. This is well known in the intelligence community.

Recall Obama's major interference in Israel's last PM election?

Flynn is out because he lied to Pence, a violation of trust with the WH. His actual speaking to the Russians was no big deal. Sessions speaking to Russians was done in an official capacity on a Senate committee and is well-known. He did not lie about it and there was nothing inappropriate about it.

 

[marshmk]

Say everything you said is true - I don't believe that it is but play along for a moment. What is your remedy other than the present outcome?

both the CIA and the FBI agree it's true. Do you think they are lying?



https://www.google.com/search?q=evi...R+election+for+Donald+Trump&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14S0O6

 

[scartiger]

I can bet my and anyone's last dollar they wasn't a Russian in my voting booth.

 

[MBRO]

Say everything you said is true - I don't believe that it is but play along for a moment. What is your remedy other than the present outcome?

Personally, I don't care for a remedy or an action to be taken.

However, I would like to understand exactly what happened to prevent a future (and potentially more serious) occurrence. No foreign nation should be able to influence the results of one of our most sacred values, that the citizens of the United States have a right to self determination.

Even the appearance of impropriety can erode faith in the democratic process. If tampering did happen as suspected, I believe this was the goal.

 

[Ron Munson]

Where were liberals when Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat. Why do they all of a sudden have an erection for Russia

 

[VHFAN4EVER]

A friend told me that Russian women are smoking hot.

 

[Earle36]

Funny how Obama told Romney that Russia was a joke. Now the Lib's are turning them into the boogie man.

Barry also called ISIS, The JV squad. This is why the Democrats have so little say so, in Federal and State governments. They are so out of touch, of regular Americans.

 

[lkntiger]

Yet by almost any definition TR was a modern day liberal. So, this statement is basically backwards.


So it is ok to lie to Congress then because the questions are illegitimate. If so, why even have hearings?

The hearings have always been - whether it was Republicans holding them or Democrats - so that politicians can get face time in front of the cameras and pander to their base.

 

[cp1275]

So a quick question to all you Trump supporters out there.

After being told repeatedly that Trump and staff had no contact with the Russians during the campaign. We now have confirmation that at least two of the staffers (former NSA Flint and now AG Sessions) did have contact. Flint obviously lied about it, and looking at the tape of the Senate Confirmation hearings, it's pretty hard to see how Sessions didn't as well.
Does this bother you?

Hanging up now and listening.

General Michael Flynn? Who is Flint?

 

[Solid Orange Blood]

what does that have to do with the issue at hand?

You don't see the irony in this situation?

 

[stigers91]

lol at the spin in this thread. sessions, the goddamn attorney general, lied under oath. nothing more needs to be said. he has to go.

Kind of like when Bill Clinton lied under oath about his affair. He was the GD President of the US and lied under oath. He seemed to stick around.

 

[wallaceb]

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

**************

Glass houses.

Quoted from NYT, no? The failing NYT, puryeyor of "fake news", according to POTUS...

 

[scartiger]

http://theblacksphere.net/2017/03/ny-times-fact-checks-president-trump-speech-incredible-results/

 

[rhettmar]

So a quick question to all you Trump supporters out there.

After being told repeatedly that Trump and staff had no contact with the Russians during the campaign. We now have confirmation that at least two of the staffers (former NSA Flint and now AG Sessions) did have contact. Flint obviously lied about it, and looking at the tape of the Senate Confirmation hearings, it's pretty hard to see how Sessions didn't as well.
Does this bother you?

Hanging up now and listening.

Guess what? You and I or any other citizen can have contact with Russia, and you can even visit Russia, and it's not illegal.

With Sessions he talked to the ambassador aa a member of the Senate am services committee. This is a non story that's being used to try and create doubt with the uninformed.

 

[cutigers532]

Why is a good relationship with Russia good for the US? What do they have that we need, or even want?

Peace

 

[Solid Orange Blood]

Quoted from NYT, no? The failing NYT, puryeyor of "fake news", according to POTUS...

Considering the aisle that the OP sits on, it seemed fitting.

If you're in the mood for some other versions:
NPR's version

Independent Journal

Washington Free Beacon

 

[clemsonpaw00]

Kind of like when Bill Clinton lied under oath about his affair. He was the GD President of the US and lied under oath. He seemed to stick around.

yes, and bill clinton was impeached as a result you rube

 

[CUAngler]

He did not lie about it and there was nothing inappropriate about it.

SEN. AL FRANKEN: "If there was any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this (2016) campaign, what would you do?," the Minnesota Democrat asked.

SESSIONS: "Senator Franken, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment."

SPIN IT

 

[gotigs1088]

Dumb Ass question. Neither of those two were on Trump's staff during election.
Russia did not hack election. Democrats ran an old bag of crap running to continue the most failed president in the history of our country.

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

So a quick question to all you Trump supporters out there.

After being told repeatedly that Trump and staff had no contact with the Russians during the campaign. We now have confirmation that at least two of the staffers (former NSA Flint and now AG Sessions) did have contact. Flint obviously lied about it, and looking at the tape of the Senate Confirmation hearings, it's pretty hard to see how Sessions didn't as well.
Does this bother you?

Hanging up now and listening.

Your post is a good example of how knowing a little about something, but not knowing much of the context, can be dangerous. First, it's not uncommon for parts of a campaign to have contact with foreign officials or foreign emissaries. Second, it would've been normal for Jeff Sessions, in his capacity as a Senator on the Armed Services Committee, to have met with the Russian Ambassador. In fact, that's exactly what happened. Maybe Sessions should've mentioned having had a meeting with the Russian Ambassador, but I think you can easily see how he might have thought that had nothing to do with him being a surrogate for Trump.

Here's another Senator who apparently didn't remember having meetings with the Russian Ambassador: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445407/claire-mccaskill-did-meet-russian-ambassador-twice

The guy who had to resign from his job as National Security Advisor was Mike Flynn, not "Flint." His situation is different because it appears that he spoke with the Russians about potential Trump administration policy, and then lied about it to the VP.

But there still ought to be an investigation into what was talked about between the Trump campaign (not Sessions in his role as Senator) and the Russians, given the Russian attempt to influence (not "hack") the election.

 

[cred0021]

Why is a good relationship with Russia good for the US? What do they have that we need, or even want?

May need to form a tag team with Russia to beat the Chinese one day....

 

[PlayTimesOver]

Nope. Don't care. I'm pretty centrist and he has policies I don't like. But the fake outrage is ridiculous. Who benefits from undermining the US in favor of Russia? Nobody in this administration. Dems lost. There was no tampering with any election equipment. They lost because they had the worst candidate is 50 years. A candidate who's corruption makes Sessions "lies" look like a kid lying about eating a second piece of candy. How did Russia fix the election? If Clinton wasn't being a corrupt idiot, all the hacking in the world wouldn't have mattered. Again, she lost because she is a giant piece of shit.

All of sudden it's bad to be on good terms with Russia? Libs are delusional. I believe Obama made fun of Romney for saying that Russia was a threat. But now there is a conservative in office that wants to have a good relationship with them just like Obama, and it's because of corruption. Dear lord people. Let it go. But I will agree I would like to see Gowdy take over for sessions. Would make my day.

In the end, get over it and support your god damn country because there is a 0.00001 percent chance that this administration is undermining the US in favor of Russia.

 

[scartiger]

yes, and bill clinton was impeached as a result you rube

So Clinton was kicked out of the White House like Nixon?

 

[NavyTigerSC]

It blows my mind that people are freaking out because Trump wants to get along with Russia. A good relationship with Russia is good for the US, and vice versa.

That said, Sessions has got to go. If this Russia thing is what does it, fine. But that motherfvcker has got to go.

Russia is a country that can barely bake bread. About the only thing they have of value are their 1970s era ICBMs and their military.

And frankly I don't think the Russians have an interest in having a good relationship with the United States. So why oblige them?

 

[NavyTigerSC]

Ps- who gives a shit who talked to who.

Really more concerned about job performance than conversations unless those conversations were complicit in violation of a treaty or US law.

 

[LVC11]

So a quick question to all you Trump supporters out there.

After being told repeatedly that Trump and staff had no contact with the Russians during the campaign. We now have confirmation that at least two of the staffers (former NSA Flint and now AG Sessions) did have contact. Flint obviously lied about it, and looking at the tape of the Senate Confirmation hearings, it's pretty hard to see how Sessions didn't as well.
Does this bother you?

Hanging up now and listening.

Does Watergate bother you?

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

Where were liberals when Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat. Why do they all of a sudden have an erection for Russia

Ya know, there's a lot of mind-losing going on right now. If you look at polls from a few years ago, far more Republicans than Democrats were saying that Russia wasn't a friend of the US. Now, far more Democrats say that. What that means is, sadly, that the majority of people in both parties will change their perceptions solely because of how they might reflect on the partisans they favor.

Republicans would certainly be calling for investigations if it looked like the Russians had hacked into the RNC in an attempt to influence the election. Democrats would be poo-pooing the allegations in much the same way many Republican partisans are now... the only difference is that the media would be believing them and largely ignoring the allegations. I also find it hard to believe that many people would care that a Democratic AG met with the Russian Ambassador in his capacity as Senator while saying that he had no contact with Russian officials in his capacity as a surrogate.

 

[wallaceb]

No big deal. Desperate fake smoke by fading Democrats.

Soviets and Russians have been trying to influence and foul up elections for decades- they likely did less this cycle than when Obama was elected. They attempt to manipulate elections in every free country that they can. Nothing new at all. This is well known in the intelligence community.

Recall Obama's major interference in Israel's last PM election?

Flynn is out because he lied to Pence, a violation of trust with the WH. His actual speaking to the Russians was no big deal. Sessions speaking to Russians was done in an official capacity on a Senate committee and is well-known. He did not lie about it and there was nothing inappropriate about it.

He did lie. His 1st answer was that he hadn't spoken to Kislyak. This is a lie.

 

[wallaceb]

I'm almost positive Trump will not back down from any country.

Almost positive...

 

[wallaceb]

Considering the aisle that the OP sits on, it seemed fitting.

If you're in the mood for some other versions:
NPR's version

Independent Journal

Washington Free Beacon

You had me until Washington Free Beacon...

 

[scartiger]

Almost positive...

Very very little in life that I'm positive of.

 

[LVC11]

www.snopes.com/teddy-roosevelt-anger-a-liberal-quote/