Look at these elite physical specimens. All pro golfers, mind you.
And one just for fun....
If golf is a sport, then so is pro gaming
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And one just for fun....
Yeah this. I consider golf a sport and don't consider pro-gaming a sport. When I made one of these counter arguments mentioned, and went through several others in my head, I begrudgingly gotta agree with the OP. Unfortunately, this also makes competitive cheer leading a sport; not cheering on the sidelines of a game but actual competitions. Damnit @johnhugh, now I'm all confused.
I'll throw out a few more that I thought of
Muscle memory has been been mentioned several times. Mashing combinations of buttons is also muscle memory and generally you have to do it faster than your opponent.
Anticipating factors like sand, rough, wind, etc makes golf hard. You have to anticipate your opponents next move in gaming, no different than a pitcher-batter match up.
Reflexes..... Actually golf requires zero reflexes and gaming requires a rather high amount.
Takes hours and hours and years and years to be good at golf. Yup, same for video games.
Hip explosion and Flexibility are something golf has but video games don't.
So it's flexibility and hip explosion vs reflexes? I hate to admit the OP is right but I think he is. I'm not saying golf isn't but I guess if I'm being honest with myself so is gaming. Also, what most of this board does it for is a hobby, not sport. Unless, of course, you're on the pro tour, it's a hobby. Same for pickup basketball at the Y, beer league softball, etc.
Look at these elite physical specimens. All pro golfers, mind you.
And one just for fun....
First, I'll note that I find baseball only marginally more of a sport than golf.
Regardless, all 3 of those guys were athletic, even at the time of the picture. Do you have any doubt that almost any of their strength numbers were off the charts compared to your average joe?
Definitely not true re: Angel Cabrera or the senior PGA.
The senior PGA is like an old man's church league in hoops. Just because you can still get paid playing a sport (golf) into your 60's doesn't mean it's not a sport. Just that it is a less high impact sport.
Angel Cabrera is more limber and flexible than the average Joe. He can also whip a club around his body much faster. I bet he could knock the fvck out of a baseball when he was younger.
You're helping the pro gaming is a sport since these pros, in other sports, aren't physical specimens. In your words, you don't have to be a physically gifted specimen to be a pro athlete, and the kid you made fun of in grade school is no different.
You can't say one (golf) is and the other gaming is not. You have to either say golf and gaming is or golf isn't and gaming isn't. You can also throw cheer leading into the mix too. It's either gotta be all of them or none of them.
If you used your whole body in pro gaming, possibly you could convince someone to believe that nonsense you just posted. If you even moved around at all, maybe someone would buy it. As pointed out, to play true competition golf, you have to walk an average of 7 miles on uneven terrain. Then you have to whip a club around your body. Then you have to squat or bend to pick up your ball, pick up clubs, etc.
Nothing about my post helps the OP. It just shows that you can "look" fat and out of shape, but actually be pretty damned athletic and capable of playing sports at a high level.
Most people that deride golf simply can't play it.
Out of the three, I think cheerleading is unquestionably the easiest one to make an argument for as "sport" (referring to competitive cheerleading)
I don't disagree with you. I'm just trying to look at it objectively with the facts provided. Also, you're talking about walking and not even carrying your bag.
Yeah it's uneven terrain; are you saying hiking should be a sport? I'm not in great shape and hiking 7 miles is doable for me, so yeah I gotta disagree with you here that it's any sort of difficult.
Swinging the club takes effort yes. Agree here.
Did you seriously mention bending over? I get it you aren't moving at all playing video games, but are you saying competitive Wii games would be sport then?
The problem for me is, I don't consider bowling, gaming, and cheer leading sports. Therefore, I'm not sure I can include golf. It doesn't distinguish itself as really any different than the others. Also, baseball is now borderline, and only counted because of the running and pitching aspect.
Take your dad or grandpa out to play golf and let's see how simple that "getting the ball out of the hole" is. The point is that golfing is taxing on the body.
I'm bowing out of this trollfest. As someone said above, people that hate on golf have no idea what they are talking about and/or suck at it.
I know you and some others are just having fun with the troll. It's cool. As I said before, if you want to consider pro gaming a sport for fingers.... You have an argument. Lol
I don't suck at golf. I'm not scratch but I'm in the 85-95 range. I realize how difficult and taxing it is. I play it with my dad and he's better than I am at the age of almost 60 (he's got a lot of time on his hands). Just because it's not a sport, doesn't make it any less fun for me to play.
I think, to me, a sport needs direct competition. Like ones actions can be countered and affected by another's action's and is taxing on your body. So like golf and bowling don't count cause you both just do your own thing and then compare your scores to each other. Gaming is out because it isn't taxing on your body. If all you require is it to be taxing then yoga or hiking is a sport. Just my opinion though. You're certainly entitled to your own.
Wasn't going to post in this thread bc whether or not someone thinks golf is a sport or not does not matter.
What I can tell you is that I am in good shape, play soccer regularly, and try to be healthy and Golf can definitely wear you out. Walking and playing an 18 hole course will leave you tired and drained every time. On hot summer days it can be brutal. Just being a spectator at a major golf event is a long day.
What I can tell you is that I am in good shape, play soccer regularly, and try to be healthy and Golf can definitely wear you out. Walking and playing an 18 hole course will leave you tired and drained every time. On hot summer days it can be brutal. Just being a spectator at a major golf event is a long day.
Just saw this one. Yikes, might want to go back to the drawing board and come up with something a little more original and maybe the least bit true
All my friends that are good at golf were athletic in other sports first. My friends that suck at golf sucked at everything else too growing up. It's about timing, balance, and hand-eye coordination.
If you want to ask yourself if something is a sport, then ask yourself does the men's game have significant physical advantages over the women's game? ...then ask yourself, do LPGA players hit it further and shoot lower scores than the PGA players?
I'd imagine that women and men can both sit on their ass and move their fingers about the same.
If you want to ask yourself if something is a sport, then ask yourself does the men's game have significant physical advantages over the women's game? ...then ask yourself, do LPGA players hit it further and shoot lower scores than the PGA players?
I'd imagine that women and men can both sit on their ass and move their fingers about the same.
Most of the counter arguments here seem to involve adding things to the definition of sport that aren't actually there...
I wouldn't keep saying stuff like this. People probably call you potato behind your back.
I have posted my responses to each of your empty points. I'll give you a B for effort, or in golf terms, an 82.
Also, the final remark was incredibly immature and uncalled for, I am truly sorry for your inability to keep your cool in a civil discussion.
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Coming from a previous collegiate golfer. Golf is a sport. It requires athleticism, GREAT hand eye contact and a mentally sharp mind. Might be one of the hardest sports to perform under pressure.
Oh yea those are most definitely sports.
OP is historically not that great of a poster IMO, but damn if he has not been coming on strong lately. Well done bro.
Surprisingly this isn't a troll. Golf really isn't a sport
LOL I cracked up.....I wonder how many on this board have been to Myrtle Waves. Probably a lot.
I know it's not a troll and I 100% agree with you. Also, you know you are 100% in the right when @Ron Munson is in your corner.
Of course those things are sports.....they require physical exertion, especially tennis and boxing.
I'm not sure why so many people get so offended by this.
I think it's some sort of self esteem issue - why is your enjoyment of it any different if it's not a sport? The activity itself remains the same.
I think it's some sort of self esteem issue - why is your enjoyment of it any different if it's not a sport? The activity itself remains the same.
It's because most people that play golf aren't good at sports so they try to make themselves feel better by taking part in a difficult hobby to self validate
This. It allows older people and unathletic people to feel good about themselves because it doesn't require any physical ability.
I have no doubt that golf can be fun in its own right - but clearly there are a few people extraordinarily rustled by the suggestion that it's on the level of video games as a sport.
Those people should probably reflect on why they need that validation in the first place.
What about the fats that play church league softball or flag football?
Please don't even get me started on those losers
