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Indicting Trump??

Made the payment?

  • Yes made the payment

    Votes: 33 55.9%
  • Yes made the payment but not a porn star

    Votes: 4 6.8%
  • No

    Votes: 13 22.0%
  • Why did Deshaun Watson not think of this...

    Votes: 9 15.3%

  • Total voters
    59
Brother, if you polled the guys on this board on which of us was most likely to live in their Mom's basement, snack on cheezits all night and look like the owner of 8chan you probably wouldn't like the results.
LMFAO!! It's not my need to get on this board and brag to liberal dweebs but I am doing very well in the game of life using hard work and conservative philosophy.
 
Big nothing burger, even leftist DAs saying nothing there. Waste of time. The more air time you give Trump, the more likely it is he wins the nomination and Presidency. I suggest it stop after this show but we all know that’ll never happen.
 
Big nothing burger, even leftist DAs saying nothing there. Waste of time. The more air time you give Trump, the more likely it is he wins the nomination and Presidency. I suggest it stop after this show but we all know that’ll never happen.

Nomination maybe, presidency, no chance in hell
 
I hope Trump is convicted and then refuses to turn himself in. We need to get this National divorce started. Corruption has no place in a free country.
 
Big nothing burger, even leftist DAs saying nothing there. Waste of time. The more air time you give Trump, the more likely it is he wins the nomination and Presidency. I suggest it stop after this show but we all know that’ll never happen.

It’s the long game. Did you see trumps train wreck of a speech tonight. All about him, how bad he is treated. He will win the gop nomination. He will lose the election in another landslide loss.
 
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I hope Trump is convicted and then refuses to turn himself in. We need to get this National divorce started. Corruption has no place in a free country.

You should divorce yourself from this board since you lost a ban bet. Of course you have no honor, so it does not matter to you. You are trash.
 
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It’s the long game. Did you see trumps train wreck of a speech tonight. All about him, how bad he is treated. He will win the gop nomination. He will lose the election in another landslide loss.
We know you were watching. You can't get enough of the orange man. It really is creepy the way you hang on to his every word, and public appearance. Trump derangement syndrome.
 
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It’s the long game. Did you see trumps train wreck of a speech tonight. All about him, how bad he is treated. He will win the gop nomination. He will lose the election in another landslide loss.
Most dangerous man in American political history Lied like a cheap rug...Again...
 
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We know you were watching. You can't get enough of the orange man. It really is creepy the way you hang on to his every word, or public appearance. Truly, Trump derangement syndrome.

Crazy that I would care what’s happening with the future gop presidential candidate, right? You got me smart guy!
 
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It’s the long game. Did you see trumps train wreck of a speech tonight. All about him, how bad he is treated. He will win the gop nomination. He will lose the election in another landslide loss.
No I didn’t watch him, really don’t keep up with it much anymore. Much better ways to use my energy than politics these days.
But from the little I have read almost all legal experts on all the sources are saying it’s political and a nothing burger. Only gives him more attention and likelihood to win.
 
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Truth! We already knew it too.


April 11, 2023

Biden’s White House was up to its neck in the Mar-a-Lago raid​

By Andrea Widburg


America First Legal (“AFL”) filed a FOIA request with the Office of the Inspector General (“OIG”) for the National Archives and Records Administration (“NARA”) to find out more information about the raid on Mar-a-Lago last year. Rather unexpectedly, the OIG responded honestly to the request, turning over records that revealed the White House helping to set up the FBI for the raid.
As a preliminary matter, Trump had an absolute right to possess any records he wanted, if he gained possession of them (as he did) while he was still president. It is black-letter law (that is, unquestioned, uncontested, absolute law) in America that the President of the United States is the last, best word when it comes to document classification:
In Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988), the court examined whether a civil service board can review a “laborer's” being denied national security clearance. In that context, the Supreme Court was clear about the president's plenary power, unimpeded by congressional acts:
The President, after all, is the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.” U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 367 U. S. 890 (1961).
Some Trump supporters think they’re helping Trump by pointing to the fact that he was working with NARA in accordance with the Presidential Records Act. They’re not, because that still buys into the concept that there is some sort of limitation on the president’s declassification power. In fact, the President Records Act is a procedural device that is utterly irrelevant when it comes to the president’s plenary power over document classification status. Neither Congress, nor NARA, nor any other bureaucrat who stamps the word “classified” on a document can undo Trump’s ultimate presidential power to declassify documents at will, without following procedures, filling out forms, or making announcements.
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Image: Joe Biden. YouTube screen grab.
Of course, it’s quite different when it comes to all the classified documents that Joe Biden has squirreled away over the decades. Whether he was a senator or the vice president, he had no power whatsoever to declassify documents unilaterally. What he did was purely illegal, something compounded by his carelessness with the documents once he illegally possessed them, and he should be locked up for a long time.
With that in mind—that is, President Trump acted legally and constitutionally at all times—here’s what AFL discovered when it got the requested documents from NARA:
On August 8, 2022, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) conducted an unprecedented raid of Mar-a-Lago on the ground that potentially classified records existed there. According to press reports, Biden Administration aides were “stunned” to hear of this development.
However, new NARA records obtained through America First Legal’s investigation into the circumstances surrounding the Mar-a-Lago raid further confirmed that the FBI obtained access to these records through a “special access request” from the Biden White House on behalf of the Department of Justice (DOJ).
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What this effectively means is that there are substantial discrepancies between what the Archives has told Congress and what appears in its internal communications. For example, Acting Archivist Debra Wall told Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) on August 16, 2022, that NARA “had not been involved in the DOJ investigation or any searches that it has conducted.”
This stunning revelation suggests that NARA was misleading Congress about the White House’s role in the shocking raid of President Trump’s home, and the fact that the Biden White House was acting “on behalf of” the DOJ raises significant legal concerns.
In other words, the White House lied to the public, and NARA lied to Congress. In reality, the White House, ignoring controlling U.S. law, worked with the DOJ and FBI to raid the residence of Donald Trump, a former president and Biden’s most serious opponent in the 2024 election, to smear Trump (and, they hoped, arrest him) as someone who had violated National Security laws.
Game theory says that, when your opponent changes the rules (i.e., cheats) to win, you don’t just keep playing politely and accepting your losses. Instead, you go after your opponent twice as hard using his own rules until he cries, “Uncle.”
In this case, given that Biden repeatedly violated national security laws, when Republicans regain control of the DOJ, it is imperative that they indict him and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. And depending on the statute of limitations, it’s time to get Hillary, too, along with any other Democrats (and I bet there are a lot of them) who have ignored national security laws.
 
Once again its being proven that China Joe and his evil dem handlers are actually doing everything they accused Trump of doing.
 
You should donate
I just might. After Trump has destroyed that man simply for being loyal and covering all his dirty deeds, it's digusting that he's twisting the knife deeper. When does Trump himself have to pay for his crimes?
 
Thanks for the clarification.

Put me in the camp if believing that just about any high profile case has a political bend to it. But I also believe that that doesn’t mean a crime wasn’t committed and that present and former office holders, even Presidents, should be able to be held accountable for crimes.

Then you should enjoy and support the investigation, indictment, arrest and conviction of Joe Biden as the Influence Peddling comes out on him.

Or are you really serious or just blowing smoke?
 
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Meh... Don't see the excitement here on either side. A grand jury indictment is nothing. What's the old saying... A decent Prosecutor could get a ham sandwich indicted? There's no representation by the defense, just the prosecutor and the Jury and only a majority vote needed.

I don't even think we know what the charges are yet. Correct? Is it even illegal to have your lawyer pay off hookers and then repay him while running a campaign? I don't know.

Anyway, I'd put this solidly in the wait and see category and someone get back to me when Trump is found guilty of anything. I can't say I'm impressed with charging him with paying off a hooker, but we'll see if there are any real charges soon. Prosecutors have a lot of power in this country... they get to pick the crimes they are going to prosecute. That's the way it is.

To use an example, Graham was appointed a special prosecutor to look into the FBI/Trump issues with the Russia investigation. He charged people with crimes and the left screamed like little bitches. It doesn't matter, he gets to do what he wants. And he did. And after 3 years and a TON of money spent... He got a whole lot of NOTHING and a lot of people say that that was a political prosecution, and given the results, they can make a decent argument for that. Personally, I have no idea... he had the reputation of be a hard ass for sure, but unless you show me proof, I'd go with the idea that he was just doing the best job he could.

It seems like the same thing here. A Grand Jury indictment is NOTHING. We'll see how this goes when the case goes before a judge and jury. If Trump is found not guilty, then the folks on the right will have a decent argument that this is a political prosecution. If he's found guilty, they won't.

As for the campaign... I can't see this having ANY effect. Any of you Trump supporters, please chime in below if you answer ANY of the following questions with "Yes". Has your support for Trump changed at all since he's been indicted? IF Trump were actually found guilty of this, would you refuse to support him? Going further... IF Trump were charged in Ga with election tampering AND/OR he were found guilty of that would you stop supporting him and refuse to vote for him? I suspect that the answers to the above are a resounding NO. And the other side is true as well. I'm not going to vote for Trump. Not ever. So if he's guilty or innocent makes no difference to me as far as a Presidential campaign. So again, I feel that this a big old nothing burger.


My thinking just a short time ago was take a hard look at the other Republican candidates or even a Democratic one if one was a solid conservative which I was hoping Joe Manchin would develop into

All the hate on Trump is driving me to be thoughtful on supporting him as if the left hates him that much he must be the right man to choke them off

He's getting my vote until I see a better choice
 
Then you should enjoy and support the investigation, indictment, arrest and conviction of Joe Biden as the Influence Peddling comes out on him.

Or are you really serious or just blowing smoke?
Absolutely. If there’s enough evidence that a prosecutor feels they can pursue criminal charges, then I’d be all for it going before a grand jury. If a grand jury indicts then he should be arrested.

You know, exactly the process that has occurred with Trump here.
 
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My thinking just a short time ago was take a hard look at the other Republican candidates or even a Democratic one if one was a solid conservative which I was hoping Joe Manchin would develop into

All the hate on Trump is driving me to be thoughtful on supporting him as if the left hates him that much he must be the right man to choke them off

He's getting my vote until I see a better choice
This is one of the more impressive examples of modern-GOP critical thinking skills

>Well he seems to piss off half the country, that's all the evidence I need that he can make America better.
 
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Sleazebag Hillary Clinton Lawyer Mark Pomerantz Pleads Fifth and Refuses to Answer Questions in front of Congressional Panel on Trump’s Garbage Indictment
 
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Sleazebag Hillary Clinton Lawyer Mark Pomerantz Pleads Fifth and Refuses to Answer Questions in front of Congressional Panel on Trump’s Garbage Indictment

pleading the fifth makes you guilty, except when trump pleads the fifth.
 
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Refused to cooperate, no one in the DOJ did anything about it and Durham and team just gave up.........corruption level 1000

 
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