Is this real?? California??

[MTTiger19]

California spent 9.5 billion on illegal immigrant healthcare.

This is ultimately what the left wants to see throughout the country. Bring them in, care and legalize them, voters for life.

California spending $9.5B on healthcare for undocumented immigrants this year

(The Center Square) — California officials told legislators that the state is spending $9.5 billion on healthcare for illegal immigrants in the current 2024-2025 budget.

www.thecentersquare.com

 

[UrHuckleberry]

California spent 9.5 billion on illegal immigrant healthcare.

This is ultimately what the left wants to see throughout the country. Bring them in, care and legalize them, voters for life.

California spending $9.5B on healthcare for undocumented immigrants this year

(The Center Square) — California officials told legislators that the state is spending $9.5 billion on healthcare for illegal immigrants in the current 2024-2025 budget.

www.thecentersquare.com

Ah yes, "the left" that want all things the same.

 

[dpic73]

I have no idea if the numbers are correct and I'm not arguing for or against but I remember Newsome saying something like it would be cheaper than the cost to hospitals that will go unpaid when they show up to emergency rooms because they don't have insurance.

 

[ANEW]

I have no idea if the numbers are correct and I'm not arguing for or against but I remember Newsome saying something like it would be cheaper than the cost to hospitals that will go unpaid when they show up to emergency rooms because they don't have insurance.

I'm not quite following... so i'm not arguing. CA is paying for insurance for illegals?

 

[tigerbean]

I'm not quite following... so i'm not arguing. CA is paying for insurance for illegals?

si

 

[dpic73]

I'm not quite following... so i'm not arguing. CA is paying for insurance for illegals?

That's what the OP is alleging and I feel like I remember it being true based on the comments I mentioned above.

 

[WapPride]

State’s rights, amirite guys? If the world’s 5th largest economy wants to provide health insurance to undocumented migrants, who are we to judge them.

 

[ANEW]

si

increible!

 

[dpic73]

Found an article about it

"Immigration and health care advocates, who spent more than a decade fighting for the changes, have said the expanded coverage will close a gap in health care access and save the state money in the long run. Those who live in the state illegally often delay or avoid care because they aren’t eligible for most coverage, making it more expensive to treat them when they end up in emergency rooms.

“It’s a win-win, because it allows us to provide comprehensive care and we believe this will help keep our communities healthier,” said Dr. Efrain Talamantes, chief operating officer at AltaMed in Los Angeles, the largest federally qualified health center in California."

California is expanding health care coverage for low-income immigrants in the new year

California will soon become one of the first states to provide free health care to all low-income immigrants living in the state illegally.

apnews.com

 

[TheValley91]

California spent 9.5 billion on illegal immigrant healthcare.

This is ultimately what the left wants to see throughout the country. Bring them in, care and legalize them, voters for life.

California spending $9.5B on healthcare for undocumented immigrants this year

(The Center Square) — California officials told legislators that the state is spending $9.5 billion on healthcare for illegal immigrants in the current 2024-2025 budget.

www.thecentersquare.com

Oh the horror of taking care of people. Good thing we have people like yourself who don't want any type of healthcare paid for by the government.

 

[letsgocu]

I have no idea if the numbers are correct and I'm not arguing for or against but I remember Newsome saying something like it would be cheaper than the cost to hospitals that will go unpaid when they show up to emergency rooms because they don't have insurance.

What about sending them back? Was that an option?……..

 

[MTTiger19]

So they pay for illegal immigrants to have comprehensive healthcare and they don’t want you to have an ID to vote. What could go wrong?

 

[MTTiger19]

Found an article about it

"Immigration and health care advocates, who spent more than a decade fighting for the changes, have said the expanded coverage will close a gap in health care access and save the state money in the long run. Those who live in the state illegally often delay or avoid care because they aren’t eligible for most coverage, making it more expensive to treat them when they end up in emergency rooms.

“It’s a win-win, because it allows us to provide comprehensive care and we believe this will help keep our communities healthier,” said Dr. Efrain Talamantes, chief operating officer at AltaMed in Los Angeles, the largest federally qualified health center in California."

California is expanding health care coverage for low-income immigrants in the new year

California will soon become one of the first states to provide free health care to all low-income immigrants living in the state illegally.

apnews.com

Outstanding article and terrific explanation on how this works. Brilliant to give them free healthcare proactively for everything. God knows those ER trips add up. You guys will defend anything. This state is upside down. Businesses leaving every week, crime through the roof, completely mismanaged, yet the left is concerned with “expanded” healthcare for illegals (apparently the normal healthcare they get wasn’t good enough), and making sure they can vote.

 

[MTTiger19]

I have no idea if the numbers are correct and I'm not arguing for or against but I remember Newsome saying something like it would be cheaper than the cost to hospitals that will go unpaid when they show up to emergency rooms because they don't have insurance.

So his argument is they don’t pay their hospital bills so the taxpayers in the state should subsidize their entire healthcare bill? That’s genius level stuff.

How bout pay your bill or we deport your ass.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Oh the horror of taking care of people. Good thing we have people like yourself who don't want any type of healthcare paid for by the government.

I don’t like the horror of Americans who can hardly pay their bills being denied adequate health care because they either lack insurance or sufficient funds to pay for money over what is covered

SEND ALL THE ILLEGALS BACK AND HAVE THEIR COUNTRY PAY THEIR BILLS AND LETS HAVE AMERICANS TAKEN CARE OF BETTER

 

[dpic73]

Outstanding article and terrific explanation on how this works. Brilliant to give them free healthcare proactively for everything. God knows those ER trips add up. You guys will defend anything. This state is upside down. Businesses leaving every week, crime through the roof, completely mismanaged, yet the left is concerned with “expanded” healthcare for illegals (apparently the normal healthcare they get wasn’t good enough), and making sure they can vote.

Hold up on the diatribe dude because I made it clear that I wasn't advocating for it, I was just answering your question. And lol at "making sure they can vote" because that's definitely not something I or anyone I know supports, but for the record, it wouldn't ensure a Democrat vote anyway as almost 50% of male Latinos voted for Trump last year.

 

[dpic73]

So his argument is they don’t pay their hospital bills so the taxpayers in the state should subsidize their entire healthcare bill? That’s genius level stuff.

How bout pay your bill or we deport your ass.

Don't they end up paying for it anyway one way or another?

 

[MTTiger19]

Don't they end up paying for it anyway one way or another?

Yes, which makes it worse. Btw wasn’t that also a big talking point for you guys. These illegals pay taxes right? So I guess they’re entitled to it. They’re working and paying taxes but not paying for their healthcare. Right. You know how that would work? The government would take that money owed directly from their paycheck they were paying taxes on. Surprise, it ain’t happening because they don’t pay taxes.

 

[scotchtiger]

Don't they end up paying for it anyway one way or another?

Yes, whether taxes or inflated health insurance premiums or inflated healthcare costs, we bear the cost of illegals.

The only logical solution is to require ID and immediately contact ICE to deport illegals. We will be kind and provide the minimum necessary care, but they will be deported directly from discharge.

 

[hinds62]

I have no idea if the numbers are correct and I'm not arguing for or against but I remember Newsome saying something like it would be cheaper than the cost to hospitals that will go unpaid when they show up to emergency rooms because they don't have insurance.

dpic73, you may be correct on what you say Newsome said about being cheaper than letting hospitals go unpaid. It would have been better, however, if Biden, Newsome, etc. had done their job and not allowed the illegals into the country initially!!

 

[hinds62]

State’s rights, amirite guys? If the world’s 5th largest economy wants to provide health insurance to undocumented migrants, who are we to judge them.

Because they all don't stay in California, WapPride!

 

[hinds62]

Found an article about it

"Immigration and health care advocates, who spent more than a decade fighting for the changes, have said the expanded coverage will close a gap in health care access and save the state money in the long run. Those who live in the state illegally often delay or avoid care because they aren’t eligible for most coverage, making it more expensive to treat them when they end up in emergency rooms.

“It’s a win-win, because it allows us to provide comprehensive care and we believe this will help keep our communities healthier,” said Dr. Efrain Talamantes, chief operating officer at AltaMed in Los Angeles, the largest federally qualified health center in California."

California is expanding health care coverage for low-income immigrants in the new year

California will soon become one of the first states to provide free health care to all low-income immigrants living in the state illegally.

apnews.com

If they are shipped back to where they came from there wouldn't be any expense, even better, don't let illegals into the country initially.

 

[hinds62]

Oh the horror of taking care of people. Good thing we have people like yourself who don't want any type of healthcare paid for by the government.

TheVallewy91, the government doesn't pay for healthcare for any person, they just process them using our money.

 

[Olddoc]

California spent 9.5 billion on illegal immigrant healthcare.

This is ultimately what the left wants to see throughout the country. Bring them in, care and legalize them, voters for life.

California spending $9.5B on healthcare for undocumented immigrants this year

(The Center Square) — California officials told legislators that the state is spending $9.5 billion on healthcare for illegal immigrants in the current 2024-2025 budget.

www.thecentersquare.com

So we just let their children die.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Yes, whether taxes or inflated health insurance premiums or inflated healthcare costs, we bear the cost of illegals.

The only logical solution is to require ID and immediately contact ICE to deport illegals. We will be kind and provide the minimum necessary care, but they will be deported directly from discharge.

100% Agree with this

Treat and stabilize patient and then because the patient is a criminal

Have ICE pick them up and deport them

That’s NOT being unkind

That is treating the law as supreme and protecting American citizens

It is not Americans fault that people left their country and came to America without support

Americans should not support parasitic behavior

 

[WapPride]

Because they all don't stay in California, WapPride!

The topic is the state of California paying for health insurance for undocumented migrants in their state.

 

[dpic73]

FTR, there are many states besides California, including red state Utah, who also cover immigrants regardless of status:

" In January, Republican-controlled Utah will start covering children regardless of immigration status, while New York and California will widen eligibility to cover more adults.

"These are kids, and we have a heart," said Utah state Rep. Jim Dunnigan, a Republican who initially opposed his state's plan to cover children lacking legal status but relented after compromises including a cap on enrollment."

Again, I'm not arguing for or against but these states have determined there is a cost benefit analysis to covering them for several reasons:

"The pandemic highlighted the importance of insurance coverage to control the spread of infectious diseases; and some states are focusing on people without legal status to further drive down the country's record-low uninsured rate.

States have also expanded coverage in response to pleas from hospitals, lawmakers say, to reduce the financial burden of treating uninsured patients.

All states pay hospitals to provide emergency services to some unauthorized residents in emergency rooms, a program known as Emergency Medicaid. About a dozen states have extended coverage for only prenatal care for such people. Full state-provided health insurance coverage is much less common, but increasing."

"There is a growing acknowledgement that people regardless of their immigration status are part of the community and should have access to health care in a regular, reliable manner," Fox said. "If they don't, it adds costs and trauma to the health systems and communities."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/29/1221780712/more-states-extend-health-coverage-to-immigrants-even-as-issue-inflames-gop

 

[UrHuckleberry]

If the way the right feels about immigrants is what gets us universal healthcare, I will certainly consider it a silver lining.

 

[BigPapaWhit]

People care cost taxpayers one way or another. Whether we are paying for increased border patrols, military mobilization, wall building, detention camps, flights "home" or bandaging knees, birthing babies, providing childcare, and educating minors, it all costs money. People are expensive. Living is expensive and if left to insurers and undertakers dying is expensive, too. Outrage can be fun until you realize the alternative is not much better, then it becomes exhausting.

 

[clempzenbill]

If the way the right feels about immigrants is what gets us universal healthcare, I will certainly consider it a silver lining.

Says the guy who has no idea how bad the health care is in Canada and Europe. Their wealthy flock here by the thousands and pay cash instead of “free” health care at home. Utterly clueless. Whenever a new doctors office opens up in Canada people get up before dawn and stand in literally a mile long line all day to try to sign up. People wait literally years and years for elective surgeries. It’s not uncommon for people to die before they get their surgeries. The elderly are routinely denied major health care procedures and expensive medicines as they are expendable and the care is so rationed they have to exclude a huge percentage of health care requests. You live in a fantasy world. I’ve spoken to so many transplants who hated the socialist health care systems they came from.

 

[SGTiger]

Says the guy who has no idea how bad the health care is in Canada and Europe. Their wealthy flock here by the thousands and pay cash instead of “free” health care at home. Utterly clueless. Whenever a new doctors office opens up in Canada people get up before dawn and stand in literally a mile long line all day to try to sign up. People wait literally years and years for elective surgeries. It’s not uncommon for people to die before they get their surgeries. The elderly are routinely denied major health care procedures and expensive medicines as they are expendable and the care is so rationed they have to exclude a huge percentage of health care requests. You live in a fantasy world. I’ve spoken to so many transplants who hated the socialist health care systems they came from.

There are quite a few who just cannot be reasoned with. They are unable to learn from history unless they actually lived through it themselves.

 

[MTTiger19]

Says the guy who has no idea how bad the health care is in Canada and Europe. Their wealthy flock here by the thousands and pay cash instead of “free” health care at home. Utterly clueless. Whenever a new doctors office opens up in Canada people get up before dawn and stand in literally a mile long line all day to try to sign up. People wait literally years and years for elective surgeries. It’s not uncommon for people to die before they get their surgeries. The elderly are routinely denied major health care procedures and expensive medicines as they are expendable and the care is so rationed they have to exclude a huge percentage of health care requests. You live in a fantasy world. I’ve spoken to so many transplants who hated the socialist health care systems they came from.

Exactly the same in Italy. First hand experiences.