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I'm shocked that you sweep some of those things under the rug like they aren't significant. The laptop issue is quite damning as it influenced the outcome of an election.......why doesn't that infuriate you as a tax paying citizen?

13 dead marines don't make you angry? More than a years worth of "inflation is transitory" doesn't piss you off?

If they had enough evidence to convict Trump, he would already be locked up so he couldn't help Repubs on the campaign trail nor start building his own campaign plans. They don't have enough evidence to prove that he influenced a riot anymore than Schumer or Pelosi encouraged an attempted murder on a SCOTUS justice.

Your tax dollars are paying for this sham and you're celebrating it.

I agree that there probably won't be enough to convict, my hope is that maybe some of this will be damning enough to end the Donald Trump spell over guys like @TigerGrowls who are convinced hea some bastion if virtue sent to save America from the Dems and RINOs. Trump isn't and never has been a republican.

Trumpism and his ilk is awful for America. I want to see a move towards the middle, I'd like to see some common sense, but I don't know if that is possible with Trump and his kind continually spreading lies and deceits and firing up morons.
 
I agree that there probably won't be enough to convict, my hope is that maybe some of this will be damning enough to end the Donald Trump spell over guys like @TigerGrowls who are convinced hea some bastion if virtue sent to save America from the Dems and RINOs. Trump isn't and never has been a republican.

Trumpism and his ilk is awful for America. I want to see a move towards the middle, I'd like to see some common sense, but I don't know if that is possible with Trump and his kind continually spreading lies and deceits and firing up morons.
Politics aside -- The thought anyone believes Donald Trump cares about anyone not named Donald Trump -- is remarkable. Guy's been in the public light for 50 years and the next time he gives a rip about someone other than himself will be the first.
 
I agree that there probably won't be enough to convict, my hope is that maybe some of this will be damning enough to end the Donald Trump spell over guys like @TigerGrowls who are convinced hea some bastion if virtue sent to save America from the Dems and RINOs. Trump isn't and never has been a republican.

Trumpism and his ilk is awful for America. I want to see a move towards the middle, I'd like to see some common sense, but I don't know if that is possible with Trump and his kind continually spreading lies and deceits and firing up morons.
Oh they've got plenty enough to convict but imagine what would happen if he got off the hook on a technicality. It's shameful that he is even allowed to run again. He should have been impeached the second time so we could have been done with him, but Republicans were afraid too afraid of him to do the right thing. And for good reason - just look at what happened to the ones that voted to convict - they've pretty much been run out of the party.
 
Oh they've got plenty enough to convict but imagine what would happen if he got off the hook on a technicality. It's shameful that he is even allowed to run again. He should have been impeached the second time so we could have been done with him, but Republicans were afraid too afraid of him to do the right thing. And for good reason - just look at what happened to the ones that voted to convict - they've pretty much been run out of the party.
They absolutely don't. If they did, they would have already convicted him. NY State has been trying to convict on flimsier cases almost religiously. If they had the smallest amount of proof, Donald would be in jail. It's been a year and a half and he's only picking up more steam. Why would they let that happen if they had something?

Would tread lightly on the impeachment front, you may see several brought to the floor when repubs walk back into control.
 
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They absolutely don't. If they did, they would have already convicted him. NY State has been trying to convict on flimsier cases almost religiously. If they had the smallest amount of proof, Donald would be in jail. It's been a year and a half and he's only picking up more steam. Why would they let that happen if they had something?

Would tread lightly on the impeachment front, you may see several brought to the floor when repubs walk back into control.
The committee feels they do have enough to convict but they still haven't turned all the transcripts over to the DOJ yet. But if they take this to court, they will have to have a 100% ironclad case because this would be one of the biggest trials in the history of our country - so they cannot miss or their lives will be ruined.

I don't doubt for a second that the repubs would try impeachment if they get back in power because all they care about is revenge. Morality, right and wrong mean nothing to them. I'll say the same for you if after everything you know about Trump since the election leads you to believe he's innocent.
 
They released a ton of video yesterday and they have tons more to reveal.

You are going with a weak "let's try to poke holes" strategy. But you are not seeking the truth, you are trying to reduce the state of dissonance between what YOU want to believe and the facts presented. You are seeking confirmation of your beliefs. This isn't how justice works. There is nothing that I will say that will convince you of anything.
They are selectively releasing video. I do not have to prove innocence. Trumps entire speech is on video where he told the crowd to peacefully protest.
 
The committee feels they do have enough to convict but they still haven't turned all the transcripts over to the DOJ yet. But if they take this to court, they will have to have a 100% ironclad case because this would be one of the biggest trials in the history of our country - so they cannot miss or their lives will be ruined.

I don't doubt for a second that the repubs would try to impeachment if they get back in power because all they care about is revenge. Morality, right and wrong mean nothing to them. I'll say the same for you if after everything you know about Trump since the election leads you to believe he's innocent.
Yeah, it's the repubs that only care about revenge (says the party that's enacting it presently).

If they haven't turned over the transcripts after 18 months, they don't have anything substantial enough to convict. Please come back to reality
 
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The committee feels they do have enough to convict but they still haven't turned all the transcripts over to the DOJ yet. But if they take this to court, they will have to have a 100% ironclad case because this would be one of the biggest trials in the history of our country - so they cannot miss or their lives will be ruined.

I don't doubt for a second that the repubs would try impeachment if they get back in power because all they care about is revenge. Morality, right and wrong mean nothing to them. I'll say the same for you if after everything you know about Trump since the election leads you to believe he's innocent.
The J6 committee is pure commie BS.
 
Yeah, it's the repubs that only care about revenge (says the party that's enacting it presently).

If they haven't turned over the transcripts after 18 months, they don't have anything substantial enough to convict. Please come back to reality
They are STILL in process dude. Beyond that, if you don't think he deserves punishment for turning this country upside down with his hatred and lies, there's no hope for you.
 
I'm shocked that you sweep some of those things under the rug like they aren't significant. The laptop issue is quite damning as it influenced the outcome of an election.......why doesn't that infuriate you as a tax paying citizen?

13 dead marines don't make you angry? More than a years worth of "inflation is transitory" doesn't piss you off?

If they had enough evidence to convict Trump, he would already be locked up so he couldn't help Repubs on the campaign trail nor start building his own campaign plans. They don't have enough evidence to prove that he influenced a riot anymore than Schumer or Pelosi encouraged an attempted murder on a SCOTUS justice.

Your tax dollars are paying for this sham and you're celebrating it.

First, I need you to explain how Hunter's laptop influenced the outcome of the election. Let me get my popcorn.

How am I sweeping them under the rug? If they announced hearings on Hunter's laptop tomorrow, I would not break a sweat. If he is guilty of a crime, then throw him in jail. That is the difference between you and me. You want Jan 6th "swept under the rug" so it does not hurt your political party.

As stated, I would welcome hearings on gas prices and inflation. You have even admitted, in a moment of rare clarity, that both parties and administrations are to blame for those.

You say Trump would be in jail already if he was guilty? You can not be that naive. They have been investigating this for over a year, with no cooperation from the people who were the ones committing the crimes. Investigations take time.

What happened on Jan 6th was a disgrace. For Trump to lie about fraud in the election was a disgrace. The video was compelling last night.

- trumps campaign data guy admitting that he told Trump that he was going to lose the election 30 days before
- Ivanka admitting that she believed he lost a fair election
- Barr talking about telling Trump three separate times that the election was fair and he lost
- General MIlley explains that it was Pence, no Trump, who was calling demanding the deployment of the national guard. Then he talks about after that day, getting calls from Trumps COS asking him to "control the narrative" (another word for lie) and say that Trump - not Pence - had indeed called for deployment of the national guard
- Sean Hannity and Trump's own press secretary texting that they about whether Trump should be removed from office with the 25th amendment.
 
They are STILL in process dude. Beyond that, if you don't think he deserves punishment for turning this country upside down with his hatred and lies, there's no hope for you.

Let me go ahead and answer you for @jakefest:

"But, but, but whatabout Stacey Abrams who also said she lost an unfair election in the state of GA. That's totally the same thing man!"
 
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First, I need you to explain how Hunter's laptop influenced the outcome of the election. Let me get my popcorn.

How am I sweeping them under the rug? If they announced hearings on Hunter's laptop tomorrow, I would not break a sweat. If he is guilty of a crime, then throw him in jail. That is the difference between you and me. You want Jan 6th "swept under the rug" so it does not hurt your political party.

As stated, I would welcome hearings on gas prices and inflation. You have even admitted, in a moment of rare clarity, that both parties and administrations are to blame for those.

You say Trump would be in jail already if he was guilty? You can not be that naive. They have been investigating this for over a year, with no cooperation from the people who were the ones committing the crimes. Investigations take time.

What happened on Jan 6th was a disgrace. For Trump to lie about fraud in the election was a disgrace. The video was compelling last night.

- trumps campaign data guy admitting that he told Trump that he was going to lose the election 30 days before
- Ivanka admitting that she believed he lost a fair election
- Barr talking about telling Trump three separate times that the election was fair and he lost
- General MIlley explains that it was Pence, no Trump, who was calling demanding the deployment of the national guard. Then he talks about after that day, getting calls from Trumps COS asking him to "control the narrative" (another word for lie) and say that Trump - not Pence - had indeed called for deployment of the national guard
- Sean Hannity and Trump's own press secretary texting that they about whether Trump should be removed from office with the 25th amendment.
Bill Barr facilitated the election steal. Tony Shaffer is retired military with intel experience to boot.

 
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Yeah, it's the repubs that only care about revenge (says the party that's enacting it presently).

If they haven't turned over the transcripts after 18 months, they don't have anything substantial enough to convict. Please come back to reality

The committee can not convict Trump of anything. That will be up to the DOJ.

And again, using your own logic and whataboutism...

It has been two years since Hunter's laptop was "discovered." If there was a crime he would be in jail.

It has been 5.5 years since Hillary and Obama allegedly spied on Trump's campaign. If there was a crime, they would be in jail.

It has been 10 years since Benghazi. The first hearing was two years after the event. They held 11 hearings over several years. If Hilary was guilty, she would be in jail.
 
Dem's have to deflect national attention from the inflation numbers that came out today. Elections are coming and all they have is to try and demonize Trump to try and energize their voters. Too bad for them and horrible for us that the crap economy will go on long past November.

Where's there Congressional inquiry into why the Justice Department, despite their experts saying there was no validity to the document, supported a fake Russian dossier in an attempt to overthrown the legitimate elected leader of the country?

Democrat Show Boating at its best.
 
Why are the only repubs on this kangaroo committee Trump haters? Why is no video being released? Why was the capital police ushering people in the doors on J6? Why were the doors opened? I have many more questions. The whole deal is BS!!

Cheney voted with Trump over 90% of the time as a Congresswoman and voted for him on Election Day. She became a Trump “hater” from November 4th 2020 - January 6th 2021 completely due to his actions during those 2 months.

It’s a shame more didn’t follow her path. If they had the guts she does, we wouldn’t even have needed a J6 committee for Tucker and Hannity to rail on.

Additionally, there were multiple videos released, including showing rioters breaking windows to enter the Capitol, and then opening the doors. The culprits were named and have all been charged and verified to be Trump supporters. Kinda destroys the “they opened the door for them” conspiracy.

Finally, you should watch it. May answer some of your questions. I mean, after all, you always claim to be seeking the truth. Don’t be scared of what you may see.
 
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Dem's have to deflect national attention from the inflation numbers that came out today. Elections are coming and all they have is to try and demonize Trump to try and energize their voters. Too bad for them and horrible for us that the crap economy will go on long past November.

Where's there Congressional inquiry into why the Justice Department, despite their experts saying there was no validity to the document, supported a fake Russian dossier in an attempt to overthrown the legitimate elected leader of the country?

Democrat Show Boating at its best.

The dems will get destroyed in November because of Biden. Nothing the committee is doing will change the outcome. Biden sucks and Trump is responsible for J6 can both be true at the same time. Any smart Republican should be calling out both of them as unfit for the office of President. I’ll support those candidates 100%.
 
The dems will get destroyed in November because of Biden. Nothing the committee is doing will change the outcome. Biden sucks and Trump is responsible for J6 can both be true at the same time. Any smart Republican should be calling out both of them as unfit for the office of President. I’ll support those candidates 100%.

I appreciate this. Nutjobs on both sides are truly making me hate politics.

Trump is a scumbag, full stop. He isn't and never was a Republican.

Biden is too old to be president, but was probably better than the other options, and I feel better than Trump.

Four more years of Donald Trump would be awful for America. Personally the last 2 years post Trump have lead to improvements in personal relationships with some close family and friends including my mother who had gone off the deep end with weird Qanon type Trump love. The months leading up to and following the election were really bad. It was the weirdest shit I've ever seen. Truly scary.
 
Dem's have to deflect national attention from the inflation numbers that came out today. Elections are coming and all they have is to try and demonize Trump to try and energize their voters. Too bad for them and horrible for us that the crap economy will go on long past November.

Where's there Congressional inquiry into why the Justice Department, despite their experts saying there was no validity to the document, supported a fake Russian dossier in an attempt to overthrown the legitimate elected leader of the country?

Democrat Show Boating at its best.


You do realize a special counsel has been investigating this for 5.5 straight years. 2 indictments, one was found not guilty by jury trial.

Yes I understand there is some effort to demonize Trump, but all they are doing is using evidence against him to do it. Those people on video are former Trump direct reports and even his own family.

It is also important to make sure that we preserve our democracy. They established these points last night...
- Trump already knew he was going to lose one month before the election.
- Trump was told by NUMEROUS people that worked for him that the election was fair and he lost. He then fired those people and replaced them with people as crazy as him.
- Trump continued to look for any way to overturn the election results.
- Trump still continues today to promote the lie that the election was stolen.

We almost let your demigod destroy our democracy. We cannot let that happen.
 
You do realize a special counsel has been investigating this for 5.5 straight years. 2 indictments, one was found not guilty by jury trial.

Yes I understand there is some effort to demonize Trump, but all they are doing is using evidence against him to do it. Those people on video are former Trump direct reports and even his own family.

It is also important to make sure that we preserve our democracy. They established these points last night...
- Trump already knew he was going to lose one month before the election.
- Trump was told by NUMEROUS people that worked for him that the election was fair and he lost. He then fired those people and replaced them with people as crazy as him.
- Trump continued to look for any way to overturn the election results.
- Trump still continues today to promote the lie that the election was stolen.

We almost let your demigod destroy our democracy. We cannot let that happen.

This is very true. The reality is this is necessary to put out there for everyone to see how legit crazy Trump is/was during the election. This isn't about someone saying, let's do constitutional recounts, or double check specific issues. This is about someone who boldface lied when he knew HE HAD LOST. He was trying to overturn an election that he knew he had lost.

All of the adults in the room told him to stop including his own family and ardent supporters and he refused and brought in crazy ass people.
 
Yeah, it's the repubs that only care about revenge (says the party that's enacting it presently).

If they haven't turned over the transcripts after 18 months, they don't have anything substantial enough to convict. Please come back to reality
Why don't you tell Officer Sicknick's brothers that Trump shouldn't be convicted. They believe jail is the least that should happen to him. Go to the 4:40 mark to hear it. They also pointed out that Mike Pence reached out to express his sorrow, but they never heard a peep from Trump, not even a tweet, because he's a narcissistic pos who doesn't care about anyone but himself. And just a reminder that Officer Sicknick was a Trump supporter before his lies got him killed.

 
The dems will get destroyed in November because of Biden. Nothing the committee is doing will change the outcome. Biden sucks and Trump is responsible for J6 can both be true at the same time. Any smart Republican should be calling out both of them as unfit for the office of President. I’ll support those candidates 100%.
This to me is the right answer. People have to be a dumbfvck to think this is just a misdirection play. Trump being a traitor and Biden being incompetent can absolutely be true at the same time. Only fellow traitors defend the indefensible.
 
Why don't you tell Officer Sicknick's brothers that Trump shouldn't be convicted. They believe jail is the least that should happen to him. Go to the 4:40 mark to hear it. They also pointed out that Mike Pence reached out to express his sorrow, but they never heard a peep from Trump, not even a tweet, because he's a narcissistic pos who doesn't care about anyone but himself. And just a reminder that Officer Sicknick was a Trump supporter before his lies got him killed.

Zero police officers were killed on J6 by protestors. Zero is the number and that's a fact. Only Trump supporters were murdered on that day. Get your facts straight. This is way too serious to let your BS go unchallenged here.
 
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Cheney voted with Trump over 90% of the time as a Congresswoman and voted for him on Election Day. She became a Trump “hater” from November 4th 2020 - January 6th 2021 completely due to his actions during those 2 months.

It’s a shame more didn’t follow her path. If they had the guts she does, we wouldn’t even have needed a J6 committee for Tucker and Hannity to rail on.

Additionally, there were multiple videos released, including showing rioters breaking windows to enter the Capitol, and then opening the doors. The culprits were named and have all been charged and verified to be Trump supporters. Kinda destroys the “they opened the door for them” conspiracy.

Finally, you should watch it. May answer some of your questions. I mean, after all, you always claim to be seeking the truth. Don’t be scared of what you may see.
So with a straight face you are telling me that Cheney is there to ensure fairness for Trump? Cheney voting for Trump ideas does not make her a supporter of Trump the man. This kangaroo committee is one sided and there is no doubt of it.
 
So with a straight face you are telling me that Cheney is there to ensure fairness for Trump? Cheney voting for Trump ideas does not make her a supporter of Trump the man. This kangaroo committee is one sided and there is no doubt of it.

You have serious comprehension issues. I never said anything about Cheney being “fair” to Trump. She aims to destroy any political future he may have and has stated as such. She detests the way he tried to subvert the election, which he’s still doing today.

All the committee is doing is revealing Trump’s actions post-election by using testimony from his closest advisors, supporters, and family members along with video footage of J6. HE is the reason we even have a committee, not Liz Cheney.

Answer this question: if Trump concedes to Biden at any point prior to J6, do the events of that day ever happen?
 
You have serious comprehension issues. I never said anything about Cheney being “fair” to Trump. She aims to destroy any political future he may have and has stated as such. She detests the way he tried to subvert the election, which he’s still doing today.

All the committee is doing is revealing Trump’s actions post-election by using testimony from his closest advisors, supporters, and family members along with video footage of J6. HE is the reason we even have a committee, not Liz Cheney.

Answer this question: if Trump concedes to Biden at any point prior to J6, do the events of that day ever happen?
Fair question on the last point, the answer is likely not.

That said, we need to take a long hard look at how both sides have undermined election integrity. It started well before Trump and will continue long after he's pushing up daisies.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/pelosi-election-results-fraud/ just an example from 2018 where Pelosi was already suggesting republicans would cheat.

Here's Biden calling Georgia voting laws "Jim Crow" https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/joe-biden-georgia-voting-rights-bill/index.html , which Stacy will surely flag this when she loses for the second time.

Again, I'm calling out both sides here despite the links flagging Dems. Both sides need to be very careful about the public nature in which they claim election unfairness, tampering, etc. It's undermining the confidence in the process.
 
Dem's have to deflect national attention from the inflation numbers that came out today. Elections are coming and all they have is to try and demonize Trump to try and energize their voters. Too bad for them and horrible for us that the crap economy will go on long past November.

Where's there Congressional inquiry into why the Justice Department, despite their experts saying there was no validity to the document, supported a fake Russian dossier in an attempt to overthrown the legitimate elected leader of the country?

Democrat Show Boating at its best.
Interesting take here ......either this was illegally funded with tax dollars or a third party paid for it, both of which would be bad looks.

 
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You have serious comprehension issues. I never said anything about Cheney being “fair” to Trump. She aims to destroy any political future he may have and has stated as such. She detests the way he tried to subvert the election, which he’s still doing today.

All the committee is doing is revealing Trump’s actions post-election by using testimony from his closest advisors, supporters, and family members along with video footage of J6. HE is the reason we even have a committee, not Liz Cheney.

Answer this question: if Trump concedes to Biden at any point prior to J6, do the events of that day ever happen?
I do not have any comprehension issues. You clearly stated that Cheney voted with Trump 90% of the time and that was your justification to call the J6 committee membership as fair and balanced. If Trump had conceded then there is a possibility that J6 does not happen, but it still does not make J6 Trump's fault. Trump clearly stated during his speech for people to peacefully protest. J6 was a very complicated picture and there multiple bad decisions made by different groups that contributed to what happened. The J6 committee basically got free airing all over TV to run a campaign commercial and to set a false pretense for the DOJ to go after Trump with more false charges. Going back to Nov3 2016 the attacks on Trump have been unworldly and if even the biggest Trump hater cannot see that then they are not very smart.
 
Zero police officers were killed on J6 by protestors. Zero is the number and that's a fact. Only Trump supporters were murdered on that day. Gets your facts straight. This is way too serious to let your BS go unchallenged here.
Bullshit - ask yourself this. Do you believe he would still be alive today if not for that riot? If you watched the hearing, you heard his fellow officer describe what happened to him that day. I know it's more important for you to provide cover for Trump than acknowledge the insurrection led to his death, but it did. Maybe we could spin it with your Covid language.

He didn't die OF insurrection, he died WITH insurrection. LMAO
 
Bullshit - ask yourself this. Do you believe he would still be alive today if not for that riot? If you watched the hearing, you heard his fellow officer describe what happened to him that day. I know it's more important for you to provide cover for Trump than acknowledge the insurrection led to his death, but it did. Maybe we could spin it with your Covid language.

He didn't die OF insurrection, he died WITH insurrection. LMAO
NO.. Give me the list of the 5 that died and the date of death along with what caused each death. They stated that Sicknick was beat with a firehose and that was a lie.

Roseanne Boyland was beat so bad that the Capital authorties had her body cremated without getting permission from her family undoubtedly to cover the obvious signs of beating.
 
NO.. Give me the list of the 5 that died and the date of death along with what caused each death. They stated that Sicknick was beat with a firehose and that was a lie.

Roseanne Boyland was beat so bad that the Capital authorties had her body cremated without getting permission from her family undoubtedly to cover the obvious signs of beating.
 
Well the family claims that is false and they cremated her body without permission. Additionally there is video showing the black female officer beating the H*LL out her with a billy club, so I am calling BS on this too.

Waiting for your list with details and dates on the 5 officers. You know you cannot provide it.
 
Well the family claims that is false and they cremated her body without permission. Additionally there is video showing the black female officer beating the H*LL out her with a billy club, so I am calling BS on this too.

Waiting for your list with details and dates on the 5 officers. You know you cannot provide it.
Oh no not a black female officer!?!?!? Jfc
 
Well the family claims that is false and they cremated her body without permission. Additionally there is video showing the black female officer beating the H*LL out her with a billy club, so I am calling BS on this too.

Waiting for your list with details and dates on the 5 officers. You know you cannot provide it.
Did I say anything about five officers or did you put those words in my mouth? I was talking specifically about Ofc. Sicknick.

It's too bad about Boyland and Babbitt but they had no business being at the Capitol that day, however, they have one man and one man only to blame - the one who incited their hatred and invited them to the Capitol. His psychosis brought them there and he should pay the price, alone!

I didn't see you respond to Sicknick's brothers saying Trump never said a word to them - no condolences of any kind - not even a postcard or a tweet. More proof of what a dishonorable, narcissistic POS he is.
 
Did I say anything about five officers or did you put those words in my mouth? I was talking specifically about Ofc. Sicknick.

It's too bad about Boyland and Babbitt but they had no business being at the Capitol that day, however, they have one man and one man only to blame - the one who incited their hatred and invited them to the Capitol. His psychosis brought them there and he should pay the price, alone!

I didn't see you respond to Sicknick's brothers saying Trump never said a word to them - no condolences of any kind - not even a postcard or a tweet. More proof of what a dishonorable, narcissistic POS he is.
Well its been stated all over msm and at the made for tv J6 event that 5 officers were killed directly related to J6 protest. I just want everyone to know that is not correct along with the rest of the majority of this story they are trying to cobble together against Trump.
 
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