i think my favorite meme is maga folks constantly mentioning "logic and reason" as a way to imply that the other side is being hyper emotional. what i find interesting is they do this while espousing beliefs in a deep state and rigged voting process despite no evidence being available that corroborates their claims.
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I am a proud American who loves my country dearly.
You would think that after the “red wave” that didn’t happen some of you MAGA lovers would realize that the country is tired of your batshit crazy mental gymnastics. Continue making fun of reasonable people, the rest of us will have the last laugh.
You are a bunch of dinosaurs on your way to extinction. It is precisely because you guys know where this is going (non-religious % of the population going up, whites a minority by 2045, no non-White groups votes primarily for Republicans, etc) that you guys are making this last stand and self justifying horrible behavior and actions. History will see MAGA as a shit stain in our history books.
FIFY
Question. What was the criteria used to claim 2020 as the most secure election in history?
Just curious.
Good lord. You would think you might blame the head of the RNC and the Rino Mitch as the leader of the Senate for the failures at their feet. In no other election have we ever blamed a President 2 years removed from office for failure to win a majority in the Senate. Do we now give Bush credit for 2010?
In every other election, whether it is dems or pubs, the head of the RNC/DNC has taken the blame. Then you have mitch, who pulled funding in races that proved to be tight.
Mitch and his ilk are the dying feces in the party. Moderates are the dying ilk in the party. (Mitt and Mccain say hello) That has been proven time and time again.
There is a reason that extremist liberals like your posts.
As for your bs claims about voting groups. Pubs have continued to grow larger percentages of minority voters in every election since 2016. What happened in 2016? The problem the party has is the rinos that try to move left and compromise. Dems never compromise and it’s past time for pubs to hop on board and stop caving to peer pressure of dems.
It’s why I said earlier that rinos are worse than dems. The Liz Cheneys have done damage to pubs and America that will take years to recover from.
Stop buying the media bs and think for yourself.
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Lots of liberties taken in your edit that don't reflect my views, but you do you my guy.
Thanks for the correction. I knew you would know how to spell it. 😉
Now if we can get you to properly capitalize words…
But I asked a serious question in there as well. Care to answer?
What was the criteria used to determine this being the most secure election in history?
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Funny to hear from the guy regurgitating talking points from the gateway pundit and infowars… Alex, that you?
Ps: Tudor Nixon in Michigan, Oz in PA, etc, the MAGA crazies got rejected overwhelmingly by voters, you can try to spin it as much as you like to play the victim card, but anyone with an IQ over 80 knows it’s true.
Reasonable Americans are done with the Trump BS. They are going to move toward better representation. Have fun pulling for Trumpy.
What was Trumps overall record on election night?
Was his record anywhere near Obamas?
Again, been alive a long time. This would be the first midterm election in my lifetime where a President 2 years removed from office took the blame. I get why Mitch, Kevin, Rona Romney McDaniel and the good ol boys and gals are targeting folks like you to save their asses.
Do what dems do. Blame Trump.
SMDH. Hook, line, and sinker.
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You mean no evidence you will accept.
Let's take a word of advice from your brethren and use some "logic and reasoning."
1. There's widespread voter fraud occurring that is being orchestrated by a deep state cabal of bad actors. They're ensuring that democrats win certain elections for xyz reasons. Now, they could go a step beyond and use this elite cheating ability to give the dems, or establishment if you believe it's GOP and Dem collusion, a majority rule so they can pass whatever legislation they desire in order to fully create a socialist empire in the US, but they don't because reasons.
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2. There isn't widespread voter fraud occurring. MAGA folks are desperate to believe there's something nefarious going on because if you look at all the boat parades in Pompano Beach and Jekyll Island there are way more Trump supporters out there than Dems or RINOS.
You don't need widespread fraud to steal an election. All you need is fraud in major dem cities run by dems.
Specifically:
1 - Detriot
2 - Atlanta
3 - Philadelphia
4 - Phoenix
5 - Madison
All you need is fraud in a single city in the RIGHT city, and you can swing that state.
Do it 3-5 times and you've stolen an election.
But we agree, there was no widespread fraud in 2020 or 2022. Wasn't needed.
Bingo. That’s why they keep saying “widespread”.
Similar to “most secure election in history”
Things tol say to dismiss actually looking into things.
I am still waiting on the criteria for determining which elections were most secure. If this one was most secure, which one was least secure. And what happened during that one?
Please show your proof. Let me guess - ballots under tables, a usb drive that turned out to be a ginger mint, vans full of fake ballots and votes that came in late. Amirite?
I told you, I don't waste my time arguing with idiots. I cannot show you anything that will change your mind and open it to the truth.
So I will just sit back and laugh as the truth comes out and you lose your mind.
What reason do you have to mistrust that statement other than Orange Caligula's lies? Are you telling me his hand-picked head of cyber security was deep state as well? That's your allegation to prove - if you can't, STFU.
Only idiots make criminal allegations against a group of people that can't be proven.
Who's committing this fraud? Democrats? Is it the GOP never trumpers as well? Or that pesky Deep State I mentioned before that is trying to prevent American freedom?
The burden of proof on these allegations is on the accusers - that would be you guys. I guess I'm just naïve since I don't believe in some overarching cabal of evildoers who are going around stealing elections to keep democrats, or non-MAGA GOP, in power. Furthermore, I think it's absolutely asinine to think Donald J. Trump of all people would be the one to take up the mantle to battle said cabal.
Then again, maybe I'm just naïve and it'll all be proven soon...like what we've been told every day for the last 2 years.
Staged photos from uniparty using antifa blm posing as maga supporters. Just my opinion.
Kash Patel: FBI Director Caught In Lies Under Oath About J6 Confidential Human Sources?
"The two cannot coexist..."
Apparently you haven’t had this discussion before, kamala is the one I am after, not the protestors.You MAGA trolls have got to come up with a better whataboutism - this one is tired and overplayed.
Many of the rioters in the summer of 2020 were arrested due to their rage over something that ACTUALLY happened. We don't care because they are criminals and we aren't defending them.
Your treasonous buddies at the capitol were rioting over something that DID NOT HAPPEN but you don't care and you whine like little bitches over their rightful incarceration.
Records rebut claims of unequal treatment of Jan. 6 rioters
Some people charged in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and their Republican allies claim the Justice Department is treating them harshly because of their political views.apnews.com
Your article doesn’t address that.
Well, I mean….for the last 6 years the walls have been closing in on Trump. Where are you on that?
Good. Because it’s time to focus on the crimes of the current administration.
Dude, you and that dude are like hunters that set a bear trap and wondering why the bear is sidestepping it. "Come on, step on it!" LOL
Not sure if you invited your cousins or what, but there's now several new posters that are spouting the same kind of nonsense you are, except they don't have your sense or humor and they reek of condescension (which you don't). So, I'm starting to appreciate you more...
Going back to this thread, I immediately picked up that this dude was pretending to be reasonable and went straight to the core of the debate. And boom shakalaka, he immediately goes into "peaceful protest" BS and the tropes that we have rehashed for months. So, what exactly would be the point of debating and trying to prove him wrong? He obviously is set on his views and no amount of fact or reasoning will get him back to reality.
Look, at this point, it's a psychological fulfillment need for them. Read some of the new guys posts, they're like pretending to be part of this secret society that knows what the future will bring and how government will come down, blah blah blah. Like flat earthers, they find value in numbers and they compensate for insecurities by feeling that they alone are special and they alone know the truth. I love to debate but there's no point in arguing with people that are beholden to cognitive dissonance and need to believe in an alternate reality (aliens, KennedyJr is alive, flat earth, Elvis is alive, etc.) to feel good about themselves.
Thankfully, we have found there's enough reasonable fellow Republicans and independents to take the control back from the MAGA crazies, I'll focus on collaborating with these guys instead of trying to salvage the crazies.
TGP EXCLUSIVE: 12 FACTS on the Dozens of Federal Operatives Who Infiltrated the Trump Crowds on January 6th at the US Capitol | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
FACT 1: The FBI infiltrated the Proud Boys — and their informant exonerated the Proud Boys of any conspiracy In July 2022 TGP contributor Cara Castronuova released whistleblower documents, text messages, and audio transcripts of FBI informant James Knowles’s communications with his FBI handlers...
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Of course he didn’t. Why? Because if he does it blows up his narrative. Instead he would rather blather on about right wing extremism. Gee, never seen the left use that calling card before. Obfuscate much?
The good news?
I woke up this am, and there is still no mention of Democracy in our Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
However, it does mention every state will be granted a Republican form of Government.
And this veteran, that signed his name on the dotted line so that these liberal nut jobs can spew their nonsense and attempt to change history…..Pledges his allegiance to The United States of America, and to The Republic for which it stands. One Nation, Under GOD, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Are you really that dense?
1) You are repeating things you don't understand and being an ass about it. For instance, you try to pit democracy vs. republic and tying it back to the founding fathers and the constitution. Guess what, what THEY contrasted was "pure democracy" vs. republic. Nobody is saying we are a direct democracy or that it was the intention. But the the truth is we ARE a representative democracy and that's what the founders and the people drafting the constitution wanted:
"Likewise, James Wilson, one of the main drafters of the Constitution and one of the first Supreme Court Justices, defended the Constitution in 1787 by speaking of the three forms of government being the “monarchical, aristocratical, and democratical,” and said that in a democracy the sovereign power is “inherent in the people, and is either exercised by themselves or by their representatives.” And Chief Justice John Marshall — who helped lead the fight in the 1788 Virginia Convention for ratifying the U.S. Constitution — likewise defended the Constitution in that convention by describing it as implementing “democracy” (as opposed to “despotism”), and without the need to even add the qualifier “representative.”
Lots more examples from this article:
In short, you are being a condescending snob about a topic you don't even understand. Are you a gamecock? That's the only type of people I know that keep crowing while knee-deep in a pile of shit. That's what you sound like when you don't understand the kind of democracy we are or what the founders meant yet you are running your mouth about it.
2) The debate between democracy vs republic is a dog whistle for MAGA people. And that's what I called you out on. None of you guys ever mentioned democracy vs republic in the past decades until you guys needed to somehow defend the traitors to America that attacked the Capitol. FWIW, two traitors have been rightfully convicted with seditious conspiracy, justice is prevailing and the truth is being recognized.
edit: replaced "charged" with "convicted"
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You sending any snacks to your boy Stewart Rhodes? He's gonna need them in federal prison.TGP EXCLUSIVE: 12 FACTS on the Dozens of Federal Operatives Who Infiltrated the Trump Crowds on January 6th at the US Capitol | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
FACT 1: The FBI infiltrated the Proud Boys — and their informant exonerated the Proud Boys of any conspiracy In July 2022 TGP contributor Cara Castronuova released whistleblower documents, text messages, and audio transcripts of FBI informant James Knowles’s communications with his FBI handlers...
You can miss me with your dog whistle bs.
You call folks maga crazies, flat earthers etc, and then accuse others as being condescending? That’s rich. Yet you still won’t answer 3 simple questions.
Then you link WAPO as your defense, rather than THE founding documents. That’s laughable at best. The WAPO would love nothing more than the slow death of our constitution. That’s the whole point of this discussion.
I asked you 3 simple questions that you refuse to answer. And it’s obvious why.
I will try again. When was the term representative democracy first used? Is it the same thing as a democratic republic? And finally, any mention of any of those terms in the Constitution or the DOI?
Of course it’s a bear trap, you won’t step in it because just like the bear, you will get caught. Again, nothing says you’re correct more than avoiding a question.
This is what dems always do, they come up with language to ease something in slowly, to move the needle slowly to the left.
For example “the inflation reduction act”. I mean, who isn’t for reducing inflation?
What’s in it? It’s nothing more than marketing.
In Congress, the name of a bill may have nothing to do with what's in it – it's all about salesmanship
Sen. Joe Manchin speaks to reporters on Aug. 1, 2022. in Washington, D.C., about the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. Anna Moneymaker/Getty ImagesQuick quiz: What’s the name of the compromise climate bill that U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia, last week agreed to support...
Another example of marketing? Representative Democracy. I mean, who isn’t for a democracy that represents the will of the people? Only one problem. It’s nowhere in the Constitution, and nowhere in the DOI. But there is plenty of evidence of politicians and media attempting to chip away at our Republic. Thank you for proving my point with the WAPO article. Keep trying to chip away.
Historical examples. Weird, this is from 2011, well before Jan 6th. The original article? 2000, only 20 years prior to J6. Weird, I thought you said this was a recent phenomenon? But hey, just keep spewing lies.
This battle has been raging since our inception, and will continue despite your overt attempts to shut it down by typical dem means. That means?
“Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It's hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”
That sir, is a bear trap. One I am not falling for.
I will answer 2 of the questions for you since you will not.
1. The terms first used instance came after our Constitution was written, and falls in line with the other attempts at chipping away and undermining our Constitutional Republic.
2. Our Constitution nor our DOI mention it anywhere.
Hopefully you can answer 1 of the 3?
I mean. If a Constitutional Republic and a Representative Democracy are the same thing, then we don’t need the term Representative Democracy. Right?
Weird…again, this isn’t a new battle as you insinuate.
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Viral image of gas prices is from 2015, not Jan. 6, 2021
For many Americans, Jan. 6, 2021, is seared in memory as the day a crowd of President Donald Trump supporters stormed th
www.politifact.com
I am not a trump supporter, but you throwing around hyperbolic claims about J6 is right out out of the lib playbook. Please show me a list of people who have even been accused(through the courts) of treason, much less convicted of such.
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Treason no. How about seditious conspiracy? If so, I can list several
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Your link is for a completely different image.Viral image of gas prices is from 2015, not Jan. 6, 2021
For many Americans, Jan. 6, 2021, is seared in memory as the day a crowd of President Donald Trump supporters stormed th
This is why I think you must be a Trump supporter trolling as a Hiden boy. Even they aren't this stupid.
Did yall catch another of those guys that were gonna overthrow the US government with a bag of zip ties?
So I see you switched over to another handle - you're still an obnoxious shitposter and your schtick has gotten tired.
So you admit that your own link had nothing to do with the post you were replying to?
That's the definition of shitposting.
Well, he specifically said treason, as have many other morons. However, I will address your question. By definition, seditious conspiracy is pretty broad. For example, anyone attempting to take anything belonging to the govt or trying to delay any federal law can be convicted of said charge. So, by definition, anyone taking a notepad from the capitol or using force in any manner against any of the capitol police that day could be charged/convicted of seditious conspiracy.
While this is an extreme example, it is no less true and points out the difference in that charge and treason. There is much more wiggle room for the govt to charge/convict people of seditious conspiracy for shock factor to lunatics like you than there is for more serious charges such as treason.
