Judge that ordered deportations of illegals stopped…

[WapPride]

If people are not citizens and are in this country illegally, they aren’t entitled to due process. They are sent back to which they came from.

Actually, undocumented immigrants are afforded the right of due process. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the Constitution.

 

[Spencer_York]

Here’s a great story from one of our allies:

The city of Berlin has been a major magnet for migrants, but instead of the economic boom promised, they are costing the state billions of euros. Now, the city is throwing more debt at the problem, which will be facilitated by the massive debt package passed by the Christian Democrats (CDU), Christian Socialists (CSU), Social Democrats (SPD), and the Greens.

European immigration is different than the US and why the US has historically been better. The US gives anyone, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, etc the ability to be American. Europeans still have a 19th century ethnic nationalism and so often exclude people from assimilation

 

[Spencer_York]

Lots of charges by you, Spencer_York, I assume you have proof for what you are saying other than what someone may have told you.

I posted an article further up thread

 

[Allornothing]

This should really piss some people off but I believe I saw a clip of Elon describing the verbiage used to make laws and he was explaining that it’s purposely vague and the language is selected specifically to be used so that different interpretations or interpretations of enforcement can be made. In other words it’s not black and white like it should be. In all honesty laws should be written where a freshman in college could understand the application, enforcement and punishment.

I only disagree with one thing: "In all honesty laws should be written where a freshman in college could understand the application, enforcement and punishment."

I think they should be written where a freshman in high school should be able to.

 

[WapPride]

That's probably more an indictment on US education than legalese. Elon's not wrong, though, wrt to text framing in legal documents, it's a PITA to navigate.

 

[uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

Correct, I don’t know either, and this could cut both ways. Judges are people so they will be flawed. It just seems dangerous. I think there are around 670 federal judges that have the same authority as Boasberg. We have no country if they all start ruling based on politics. I truly don’t know the answer. But I don’t think that we the people need to suffer while one judge makes a ruling that will be overturned. Especially one that has shown he’s willing to imprison people.

"We have no country if they all start ruling based on politics."

How do you separate a ruling "based on politics" from the general concept of having an opinon? At the moment ruling based on politics means disagreeing with the Trump administration, previously it meant disagreeing with Biden, and so on.

The more blatant introduction of "politics" into the judicial system is impeaching judges for plainly political reasons.

 

[dpic73]

 

[firegiver]

Clarence Thomas doesn't recuse himself from cases his family stands to benefit from, yet we are all worried about lower court activist judges. Just yawn stuff

 

[ANEW]

The judical check on the federal legislature and executive as conceived by the framers resided in the SCOTUS. I don't believe that they ever conceived of whole system of 100's of federal judges at lower levels, each having the power to essentually block the actions ofthe POTUS and insert themselves into his management of the executive branch.

And here we are.

 

[dpic73]

Section 1​

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Interpretation:

The second sentence of Article III, Section 1, says: “The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.” It’s pretty clear what’s going on here: this provision is designed to make sure that the judges are independent. They can decide cases according to what they think the law requires, without worrying about whether some powerful person—or even a majority of the people—will object. As Alexander Hamilton put it in The Federalist No. 78, judicial independence “is the best expedient which can be devised in any government to secure a steady, upright, and impartial administration of the laws.”

Section 2​

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

 

[TigerGrowls]

The judical check on the federal legislature and executive as conceived by the framers resided in the SCOTUS. I don't believe that they ever conceived of whole system of 100's of federal judges at lower levels, each having the power to essentually block the actions ofthe POTUS and insert themselves into his management of the executive branch.

And here we are.

Absolute truth.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Section 1​

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Interpretation:

The second sentence of Article III, Section 1, says: “The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.” It’s pretty clear what’s going on here: this provision is designed to make sure that the judges are independent. They can decide cases according to what they think the law requires, without worrying about whether some powerful person—or even a majority of the people—will object. As Alexander Hamilton put it in The Federalist No. 78, judicial independence “is the best expedient which can be devised in any government to secure a steady, upright, and impartial administration of the laws.”

Section 2​

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Who the hell is going to check out of control activist judges? They can only be removed with 67 senate votes so that's not happening. No accountability at all. This is horse sh1t.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

When we were in a World War? Would guess not.

We are in a dire situation now similar to a world war.

More people die per day from Fentanyl coming across the border about 340 per day than WW2 DEATHS OF 300 or so a day.

Then if one wants to really get funky 1200 people die a day from results of cigarette smoking including babies and children as a result of secondhand smoke.

 

[Cabotiger]

lol at blaming immigration solely at the feet of democrats. Dems proposed a bill that would increase funding for more immigration lawyers, more money for ICE, and more support for the legal immigration efforts to help expedite the backlog so people could apply and get feedback faster than a decade. Republicans balked bc they didn’t want to give dems a win and were salty there was no wall funding (stupid as **** to begin with.)

Undocumented immigrants don’t get SS benefits or healthcare, beyond life saving care.

The fact is neither side wants to “fix” it because it’s a good tool to drive people out to vote.

I have to believe this is one of the most clueless responses to immigration policy’s yet.
They have been getting healthcare and benefits upon arrival.
Dems like AoC have been protecting illegals, illegally and now mayor of Boston included
Dems wanted more “lawyers” to protect illegals and guess where that money comes from?

US Tax payers……… I know you libs hate Doge and what Elon is finding but suck it up buttercup, you can’t print money without accountability forever.
**** are you guys dumb 🤦‍♂️

 

[Cabotiger]

European immigration is different than the US and why the US has historically been better. The US gives anyone, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, etc the ability to be American. Europeans still have a 19th century ethnic nationalism and so often exclude people from assimilation

If you lived in Latin America like I have you’d understand why the US should adopt their same laws and you rarely see any illegal immigration’s in the US other than drug use which the cartels exploit with China, Canada and Mexico.