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Kaepernick decides he's not going to stand for the national anthem.

I read about the first 20 comments and regret my black ass even opening up this thread. The amount of money you earn does not change the person you, your place as a minority in America are or your color. The election of a black President did not eliminate institutionalized racism or bigotry and the rise of an Anti-American labor Anti-American military pathological lying outsourcing illegal immigrant employer H2B Visas abuser Grand Wizard Trump still proves America has a long way to go.

If you don't think this is a race issue just judge the comments on social media according to each individuals ethnicity.

What would you think of a black man that gave an eulogy for a klan member?
 
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Not standing for our flag isn't standing up to injustices in this country. Refusing to stand for our flag is spitting in the face of every one who has died to ensure that flag can continue to fly. Men and women of all races. So F&CK this asshat! I hope to hear in 10 years that he is destitute and is nothing more than an afterthought.
 
I read about the first 20 comments and regret my black ass even opening up this thread. The amount of money you earn does not change the person you, your place as a minority in America are or your color. The election of a black President did not eliminate institutionalized racism or bigotry and the rise of an Anti-American labor Anti-American military pathological lying outsourcing illegal immigrant employer H2B Visas abuser Grand Wizard Trump still proves America has a long way to go.

If you don't think this is a race issue just judge the comments on social media according to each individuals ethnicity.
So what did the election of a black president actually do? And what has he done for blacks? And what will Hillary do for blacks? Just curious since the other guy is obviously so evil in your opinion.
 
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Our problem is not a racism issue, it's a cultural one. It's not a matter of hating one another based on skin color, it is an ignorance of the life and culture in which the other lives.

What the black community needs is more vocal leaders and role models and I'm not referring to rappers that use their artistry to send a message. We need more in the black community striving to be doctors and lawyers not rappers and professional athletes. Sadly the people of influence in those communities aren't portraying this dream so many don't grow up with the same aspirations as white people and therefore their "ceiling" is limited by false perception. Unfortunately culture in most black communities permeates social segregation. This is one reason why I don't understand why we still have HBCUs that only contribute to social segregation.

What white people need to do is quit with accusations and arrogance and find ways to communicate with and love the black community. Instead of preaching survival of the fittest how about preach love thy neighbor?

If we all just loved one another instead of fighting for who is right and who is wrong, you would see a lot of this go away. Disagree all you want but what this country needs is not more laws, rules or regulations, it's to get back to being one nation under God
 
Do you agree or disagree?

I realize that racism can feed oppression, but do you believe we have oppression DUE TO RACE in this country?

I believe if we did it would be major headlines seeing as how various religions, gender-identification, and sexual preference have been the last few/several years.
No, I do not believe any given race is oppressed in 2016's America. But electing a minority president does not exonerate the idea that said race may still be oppressed.
 
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When I see statements like that it makes me realize just how little perspective some people have. Go visit just about any other country in the world and you'll see that oppression exists. We aren't perfect but we are WAY on the positive end of the spectrum.

Just pure ignorance at its finest.
 
What would you think of a black man that gave an eulogy for a klan member?
John Lewis, a civil rights pioneer giving a eulogy for a man that turn his back on the White nationalism, gave a passionate speech to the Democratic body in the early 70's apologizing for his past and his vision for the party. Former WV Senator Byrd end up being a champion for change.

Don't insult my intelligence with you dumb ass trap game.
 
Kaepernick certainly has a right to not stand for our national anthem, but I disagree with his thinking. Our country isn't perfect, but is there another country he would prefer to live? I doubt it. Instead of making a useless stance that will not benefit anyone, hopefully he is using his vast amount of money and time to actually make a positive impact in the African American community, or the community in general, like a LeBron James or a Jalen Rose if it really means so much to him.
 
So what did the election of a black president actually do? And what has he done for blacks? And what will Hillary do for blacks? Just curious since the other guy is obviously so evil in your opinion.
So another fool wants to insult my intelligence. Good lord does everyone use the Bill O'LIELLY playbook to discuss"Race in America"? Now African Americans have to validate our votes? What other ethnicity in America is being ask these racial charge questions lol. But since you all of sudden care for Black America outside of who is scoring for Clemson here is a small list you can double check with Breitbart



Expanded funding for HBCU,
Affordable Health care Act whether you like or not offers more screening and choices to Urban areas, filing number of lawsuits to prevent the GOP from destroying voter rights, created a civil rights division in the department of Justice, over a billion dollar settlement to black farmers (since my grandparents are decease my mother and her siblings received the payout), Fair sentencing Act and another one I can not recall, defending affirmation action, demanding police departments like Cleveland and Ferguson change their tactics, improving education in urban areas and address minority students that get in trouble often and taking steps to shut down for-profit colleges that often prey on minority students (Trump University).

Remember THREE BRANCHES of Government. The President is part of the Executive branch and by staying in his lane he was President for 8 years.

The people that wanted him to pass laws, issue orders and etc would of had this man hung within a week.
 
You just don't have anything else because what I said was truth. I know so many "people of color" that have seized opportunity and made something of themselves that I refuse to let the rest of you cheapen their accomplishments.

Hell ole Colin is a perfect example of taking opportunity and bettering himself. He's just an ignorant ass that needs to gtfo


Colin should look at his own situation. He never met his A/A father who left before he was even born. Then a Caucasian family decided to adopt him days after his birth.

No one forced his father to leave and no one forced this non A/A family to raise a bi racial child. Yup - this sounds like a country full of oppression - or maybe a country where people lack accountability

I'm a minority and don't feel oppressed.
 
John Lewis, a civil rights pioneer giving a eulogy for a man that turn his back on the White nationalism, gave a passionate speech to the Democratic body in the early 70's apologizing for his past and his vision for the party. Former WV Senator Byrd end up being a champion for change.

Don't insult my intelligence with you dumb ass trap game.


Lol.... Yeah ok.... Glad you believe that
 
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I have lost 3 government contracts in the last 2 years that went to minorities instead. I wasn't even allowed to submit a bid.

I guess I should not stand for the national anthem next time.
 
Lol.... Yeah ok.... Glad you believe that
Believe? Tell you what. Research Robert Byrd's voting record as a Representative of the House/Senator til early '70's vs a Senator mid '70's on, then give your feedback. I will be waiting. Obviously this is not my first rodeo with a "die hard conservatives".
 
Colin should look at his own situation. He never met his A/A father who left before he was even born. Then a Caucasian family decided to adopt him days after his birth.

No one forced his father to leave and no one forced this non A/A family to raise a bi racial child. Yup - this sounds like a country full of oppression - or maybe a country where people lack accountability

I'm a minority and don't feel oppressed.
That is a fair argument and point if Kaepernick is even the right messenger.
 
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I don't think he is--I think he's well within in his right to protest. What he's doing is no different than anyone else who just wants to express his/her views.


There ya go...the ole' welfare and wic.


Have you done any research for yourself? Here's a few off the top of my head

1. Unfair lending practices between minorities and whites (makes it difficult to build wealth)

2. Employment access -- limits upward mobility and the opportunity to remove oneself from a bad situation

3. Unbalanced & unfair treatment for like crimes committed (US Legal System)

4. Gutting of Voting Rights Act (subsequent redlining of voting districts that took place immediately after this..especially in southern states).

5. Poor schools in rural & inner cities limiting access to quality education

6. Healthcare access (Obamacare has helped but hasn't in a lot of places...especially if you live in a state where the governor decides to not accept subsidies)

Plenty of other areas out there. Go do some research and see for yourself. The reason you may not be aware of it is because it probably doesn't directly impact you or your family/friends on a day to day, month to month, year to year basis. Things didn't automatically straighten themselves out 50-60 years removed from the Civil Rights. These systematic issues are still big hinderances for a lot of people of color although this country has made tremendous strides. There's still work to be done.
Not going to stand and show pride for a country the suppresses black people. Your paid to play football, not express your beliefs. I hope they cut his ass.

We all need a vocabulary lesson on the definitions of racism, prejudice and oppression.

He has a right to not stand, but I doubt it improves any racism issues. His right and his employer's policies might be at odds. The NFL appears to not have a policy - only encourages standing.

I have the right to think it is wrong.

Here's an interesting study on racism and college acceptnce rates.

Maybe Asians are the ones that need o be bringing up racism?

In 2009, Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade and researcher Alexandria Walton Radford, in their book No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal, examined data on students applying to college in 1997 and calculated that Asian-Americans needed nearly perfect SAT scores of 1550 to have the same chance of being accepted at a top private university as whites who scored 1410 and African Americans who got 1100.[75]

After controlling for grades, test scores, family background (legacy status), and athletic status (whether or not the student was a recruited athlete), Espenshade and Radford found that whites were three times, Hispanics six times, and blacks more than 15 times as likely to be accepted at a US university as Asian Americans.
 
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He's an Internet tough guy. Let him be.


Rules.

Pay him no mind. He always does this. Same
fella who told me he wanted to meet me in Charlotte bc of an mesage board disagreement.

Actually felt bad for the guy when he started telling his sad story about struggling with his weight for all these years, but then see him doing the same old shvt.

Why I'm choosing to sit out of most of these political threads these days. Waste of my time.
 
This is a guy who never knew his black father and his mother thus put him up for adoption and was taken and raised by a white couple. Went to college free and makes millions. Don't know how he understands oppression. A father that disserted him before he was born seems to be the only bad thing that's happened to him.
 
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Pay him no mind. He always does this. Same
fella who told me he wanted to meet me in Charlotte bc of an mesage board disagreement.

Actually felt bad for the guy when he started telling his sad story about struggling with his weight for all these years, but then see him doing the same old shvt.

Why I'm choosing to sit out of most of these political threads these days. Waste of my time.

Trust me I don't bro. I did speak to @avengermg73 and had a great conversation. He had a really good perspective.
 
Please explain it then? I dont see anyone left of an opportunity because of ethnicity.
While that may be true, it does not mean that all races are treated equally. Yes, a black man can be president, because he had the opportunity to do so. Doesn't stop plenty of people from saying our president is a n*****.
 
You mean the same country that twice elected an African-American president?

What an idiot.
Well that idiot has chosen to Protest Racism In This Manner Peacefully...Agree or Not Isn't This America!? A twice elected Black/White Man does not eliminate Racism! I do not agree with his method of protest or the sentiments of most on this site, but respect their American Rights to do such! Signed 22 years honorably retired military man!
 
Haha you know me so well a a die hard conservative...

I vote for the people I think will better this country not because of race.
Not sure what you are implying considering the last 43 Presidents been White lol

Safe to say minorities have been voting for the betterment of America.
 
Not sure what you are implying considering the last 43 Presidents been White lol

Safe to say minorities have been voting for the betterment of America.

There are more elections than Just the President. I don't vote for party. I vote for those that are known to support my beliefs. God, Country, Family.
 
Face it. There are places in this country a black man would be opressed and racism towards blacks is very prevalent

There are just as many places where white men are oppressed and racism exists. Same for all races

But on the whole and for most people oppression is not happening. Even if racist people are around.

I find it funny how he makes this stand and just two weeks ago we heard how Carmelo Anthony thought it was the greatest thing in his career to represent the same country.

One of these guys is right and the other is a moron with his opinion just wrong.
 
Don't watch Fox News.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Again, I'm not someone who just sits on a couch and watches/reads what the media says about something. I work with families in poverty, with kids who don't know where their father is. With parents who can't hold a job or a steady place of residence. They don't move around and jump jobs because they're oppressed. They don't not go to college because they're oppressed.
*Sigh* if your claim to be a volunteer and work in improverish black areas then you know education system is a great example of oppression. Kaepernick whether you or anyone agree or not with his approach is talking about systematic oppression.

By the way HBCU are around cause their historical in nature for one, HBCU provide an excellent education and are integrated but since you are in the hood you knew all ethnicity are welcome.
 
While that may be true, it does not mean that all races are treated equally. Yes, a black man can be president, because he had the opportunity to do so. Doesn't stop plenty of people from saying our president is a n*****.
If the (N) word defines who and what you are....You are probably losing in life. Barack Obama should never let shit like that bother him Hes the President of The United States because of hard work and education. You will never meet an educated self made N-word, Red neck because they are the ones with their hands out bitching about life isnt fair. Dont ever be that Person because you dont have to be. God bless and Good luck and work your tail off.
 
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