The problem with trying to have equal discourse is, well, it isn't equal. We could probably civilly debate policies and opinions on Obama/Romney or Bush/Gore. But this is between a lying crooked scam artist and a run of the mill politician. The fact is that since everything that the wanna be dictator says is crazy, dangerous, and threatening to the country, it makes her the default without question. None of the socialists scare tactics you'll use as defense is reality. See Congress.It wasn't a snap judgement. I've read enough of your posts to make up my mind. I never said whether you were civil or not. I said that there is no discourse because anyone that disagrees is seen as the enemy (wrong and malicious instead of having a different thought from a possibly grounded perspective).
I don't know your interactions with this poster and, frankly, I don't care about them. They don't prove or disprove my opinion of this particular board as a whole.
This is a place where Americans AND fellow Tiger fans, treat each other worse than I'd ever treat an actual person in my life that I detested simply because they vote a certain way. That's both sides. It's better to just avoid it and find what we agree on.
I think most of your opinions are flat out wrong and uninformed. You'd probably feel the same about me. In real life, I'd fight to defend you as a fellow American. On this board? The other side of the aisle might as well be the scum of the Earth. That's how everyone is treated here. So, as I said to the other gentleman...don't take the bait. Don't try to explain yourself. This is not a place for discourse or understanding.
Ok. So, what's your point?Remember she is only where she is because it was the only way to keep all the campaign money that was raised.
6 weeks prior to Joe’s meltdown in the debate the Dems were trying to figure out a way to remove her as Joe’s running mate.
Ok. So, what's your point?
And yet, despite the nasty 40 anti-Dem threads on the first page and the 50 overnight posts from a guy who will latch onto and spread any conspiracy theory without verification, or the guy in this thread who literally pulls beliefs out of his ass that he insists are true just because (Dems created a deadly bat virus to keep Trump from winning, the election was stolen because he saw some ballot carriers under a table, I'm being paid by George Soros to post here and create multiple handles, etc...etc... etc...) I'm the bad guy here because I'm one of the few that will jump into the lion's den and push back against all the nonsense.It wasn't a snap judgement. I've read enough of your posts to make up my mind. I never said whether you were civil or not. I said that there is no discourse because anyone that disagrees is seen as the enemy (wrong and malicious instead of having a different thought from a possibly grounded perspective).
I don't know your interactions with this poster and, frankly, I don't care about them. They don't prove or disprove my opinion of this particular board as a whole.
This is a place where Americans AND fellow Tiger fans, treat each other worse than I'd ever treat an actual person in my life that I detested simply because they vote a certain way. That's both sides. It's better to just avoid it and find what we agree on.
I think most of your opinions are flat out wrong and uninformed. You'd probably feel the same about me. In real life, I'd fight to defend you as a fellow American. On this board? The other side of the aisle might as well be the scum of the Earth. That's how everyone is treated here. So, as I said to the other gentleman...don't take the bait. Don't try to explain yourself. This is not a place for discourse or understanding.
What you're missing is that some of us feel that Trump is a much worse candidate historically speaking and we have two people to vote between, so even though she isn't our ideal candidate, she's the only thing that stands between us and an America we won't recognize.That even your side understands she is a historically awful candidate, but they were stuck with her.
I get the hate for trump and the idea of voting against him. I don’t understand actual enthusiasm for Kamala though. Someone on here even called her and Walz a “dream team” at one point. 🤣
Fair enough. But "even your side understands and historically awful" are exaggerations. Just about qualified as anyone before her, and much more so than one.That even your side understands she is a historically awful candidate, but they were stuck with her.
I get the hate for trump and the idea of voting against him. I don’t understand actual enthusiasm for Kamala though. Someone on here even called her and Walz a “dream team” at one point. 🤣
Fair enough. But "even your side understands and historically awful" are exaggerations. Just about qualified as anyone before her, and much more so than one.
And my side? Therein lies our problem with this cultish, I need to be on team mentality we have now. I was always a libertarian/quazi republican and fairly active in the party, until I came to some realizations. Biden is first Democrat president I've voted for. And like you pointed out, yes Trump drove me to vote for Biden. And Harris. In fact, I and the majority of country usually voted split tickets until the 80's and now vast majority vote straight ticket. As I will due to maga nuts.
The "historically awful candidate" bullshit is just very thinly veiled racism/sexism. I'd love for scotchtiger to explain how/why her resume doesn't stack up with other past candidates like George W Bush or Ronald Reagan or even Obama or especially Trump whom I'm sure scotchtiger had no problem voting for in 2016.Fair enough. But "even your side understands and historically awful" are exaggerations. Just about qualified as anyone before her, and much more so than one.
And my side? Therein lies our problem with this cultish, I need to be on team mentality we have now. I was always a libertarian/quazi republican and fairly active in the party, until I came to some realizations. Biden is first Democrat president I've voted for. And like you pointed out, yes Trump drove me to vote for Biden. And Harris. In fact, I and the majority of country usually voted split tickets until the 80's and now vast majority vote straight ticket. As I will due to maga nuts.
I'm sure you've noticed the large number of traditional Republicans that are lining up behind her, not because they agree with most of her politics but because the threat of Trump is a much bigger existential issue. If you really care about the future of your party, it seems the only way to return it to it's roots is to end the cult of maga and I find it odd that you don't see that clearly. You claim to hate trump and won't vote for him yet most of your posts make it seem like you're rooting for him to win - it's confusing.Yea the team sports stuff and increasingly partisan nature of politics is damaging to the country. I've semi-broken from the Republican party, but I have nowhere to go because the dems are awful and a I have fundamental disagreements on core elements of their political philosophy.
There’s no actual enthusiasm for Harris. It was all fake, and now it’s showing.That even your side understands she is a historically awful candidate, but they were stuck with her.
I get the hate for trump and the idea of voting against him. I don’t understand actual enthusiasm for Kamala though. Someone on here even called her and Walz a “dream team” at one point. 🤣
Do you realize how ridiculous this all reads, coming from you?And yet, despite the nasty 40 anti-Dem threads on the first page and the 50 overnight posts from a guy who will latch onto and spread any conspiracy theory without verification, or the guy in this thread who literally pulls beliefs out of his ass that he insists are true just because (Dems created a deadly bat virus to keep Trump from winning, the election was stolen because he saw some ballot carriers under a table, I'm being paid by George Soros to post here and create multiple handles, etc...etc... etc...) I'm the bad guy here because I'm one of the few that will jump into the lion's den and push back against all the nonsense.
It's not just about being conservative because I have a couple good friends who are conservative and we get along great and rarely even talk about politics, but they aren't rude, batshit crazy assholes like you find here on this board. That and the avalanche of lies are what fuel me to get in the mud and punch back. I'd much prefer it was a space where we could civilly discuss politics but the majority of the posters on the Right aren't interested in that, so that's why you see me fighting back, because just like you, I believe I'm on the right side of most of these issues and if me and a couple others didn't speak up, it would just be an echo chamber. So I will persisit.
Thanks for your input
Pulling that card, huh?The "historically awful candidate" bullshit is just very thinly veiled racism/sexism. I'd love for scotchtiger to explain how/why her resume doesn't stack up with other past candidates like George W Bush or Ronald Reagan or even Obama or especially Trump whom I'm sure scotchtiger had no problem voting for in 2016.
- Assistant DA of SF
- DA of SF
- AG of California
- Senator from California
- VP
Answer the question then.Pulling that card, huh?
Desperation is the last straw.
So you seriously believe that:So Trump is a better candidate. He has clearly stated that he plans to lock up people who refuses to vote for him by using the military. He has also clearly stated that most Hispanics will be deported to Concentration camps, and you think that this idiot is a deserving candidate to be president. If he becomes president, and he tries this Project 2025 junk, America will become unlivable.
She was the first to drop out of the democrat primary in 2020.Answer the question then.
What was Donald Trump's resume like when you voted for him in 2016 compared to hers now? This should be funny.
Great point!Answer the question then.
What was Donald Trump's resume like when you voted for him in 2016 compared to hers now? This should be funny.
If the Democratic Party had the opportunity to pick someone more to their liking and keep the money they would have done so.Ok. So, what's your point?
The "historically awful candidate" bullshit is just very thinly veiled racism/sexism. I'd love for scotchtiger to explain how/why her resume doesn't stack up with other past candidates like George W Bush or Ronald Reagan or even Obama or especially Trump whom I'm sure scotchtiger had no problem voting for in 2016.
- Assistant DA of SF
- DA of SF
- AG of California
- Senator from California
- VP
We had four years of Trump.The problem with trying to have equal discourse is, well, it isn't equal. We could probably civilly debate policies and opinions on Obama/Romney or Bush/Gore. But this is between a lying crooked scam artist and a run of the mill politician. The fact is that since everything that the wanna be dictator says is crazy, dangerous, and threatening to the country, it makes her the default without question. None of the socialists scare tactics you'll use as defense is reality. See Congress.
And just because the Republicans laugh it off, doesn't....as evidenced by the majority of people who worked for him and political scientists who believe him a danger to country, make it not so. You want one side to respect the other side that is completely ignorant of facts, of how government works, and just basic reality. That side, in the name of secret racism, the acceptance in the cult, loosening of socialital ethics on denigrating others will let this obscenely disqualified individual in to the hen house again. This time more armed with understanding of how to take advantage of the power. I, and many others on here, can't comprehend or respect that.
Just because you'd prefer to ignore it or dismiss it because it's uncomfortable for you doesn't make it untrue. We all know if he wins, you won't give a shit if he does any of this.So you seriously believe that:
I'd say, give me some evidence of these very things, but don't think you are capable without pointing me to CNN talking points.
- Trump plans to lock up people who refuse to vote for him by using the military?
- Trump plans to have most Hispanics deported to Concentration camps?
So, just think about it for a second.
Who are "MOST" Hispanics? That doesn't even make sense.
Then, is it people who "REFUSE" to vote for him or did not vote for him? Either way, can you seriously see that happening? I would think even some of the posters ITT who disagree with almost everything I say would not agree with such a far-fetched, idea of lunacy!
Ah yes. 4 elected positions in super liberal SF and CA is quite the resume. Being a historically pitiful VP is a real gold star on that CV. Having the most liberal voting record in the senate - to the left of Bernie Sanders - really adds depth to her qualifications. And nevermind how horrendous she is in pretty much every interview and public appearance.
It's not about the titles she's held dude. She's awful. But you're a true believer and thus detached from reality, so I'm sure you don't realize it.
BTW, I voted for an Indian-American female in the Republican primary and plan to write in that person for president, so don't give me the racism/sexism bullshit. What a pathetic crutch that is for some of you.
"Historically pitiful VP"Ah yes. 4 elected positions in super liberal SF and CA is quite the resume. Being a historically pitiful VP is a real gold star on that CV. Having the most liberal voting record in the senate - to the left of Bernie Sanders - really adds depth to her qualifications. And nevermind how horrendous she is in pretty much every interview and public appearance.
It's not about the titles she's held dude. She's awful. But you're a true believer and thus detached from reality, so I'm sure you don't realize it.
BTW, I voted for an Indian-American female in the Republican primary and plan to write in that person for president, so don't give me the racism/sexism bullshit. What a pathetic crutch that is for some of you.
You mean the data like J6 which was the only time in our country's history we didn't have a peaceful transfer of power?People latching onto this narrative of impending militaristic rule if the orange man wins is incomprehensible to me, given the data we already have in our possession.
Is this a good idea for her candidacy? Will it move the needle?
You can't overcome this fundamental inane belief chiseled in place by a barrage of 24/7/365 MSM coverage ramming it down someone's willing gullet.You mean the data like J6 which was the only time in our country's history we didn't have a peaceful transfer of power?
yes please spare me from this path...
We saw it with our own eyes and don't need the MSM's take. Thank god there was finally someone willing to hold his feet to the fire and of course he dodged it, because he knows he's guilty and unfit.You can't overcome this fundamental inane belief chiseled in place by a barrage of 24/7/365 MSM coverage ramming it down someone's willing gullet.
TDS is something he absolutely earned and deserves and no amount of low IQ, juvenile posts from twatter ghouls will change that. Take your shit to Nickelodeon please.