The problem with trying to have equal discourse is, well, it isn't equal. We could probably civilly debate policies and opinions on Obama/Romney or Bush/Gore. But this is between a lying crooked scam artist and a run of the mill politician. The fact is that since everything that the wanna be dictator says is crazy, dangerous, and threatening to the country, it makes her the default without question. None of the socialists scare tactics you'll use as defense is reality. See Congress.It wasn't a snap judgement. I've read enough of your posts to make up my mind. I never said whether you were civil or not. I said that there is no discourse because anyone that disagrees is seen as the enemy (wrong and malicious instead of having a different thought from a possibly grounded perspective).
I don't know your interactions with this poster and, frankly, I don't care about them. They don't prove or disprove my opinion of this particular board as a whole.
This is a place where Americans AND fellow Tiger fans, treat each other worse than I'd ever treat an actual person in my life that I detested simply because they vote a certain way. That's both sides. It's better to just avoid it and find what we agree on.
I think most of your opinions are flat out wrong and uninformed. You'd probably feel the same about me. In real life, I'd fight to defend you as a fellow American. On this board? The other side of the aisle might as well be the scum of the Earth. That's how everyone is treated here. So, as I said to the other gentleman...don't take the bait. Don't try to explain yourself. This is not a place for discourse or understanding.
Ok. So, what's your point?Remember she is only where she is because it was the only way to keep all the campaign money that was raised.
6 weeks prior to Joe’s meltdown in the debate the Dems were trying to figure out a way to remove her as Joe’s running mate.
Ok. So, what's your point?
And yet, despite the nasty 40 anti-Dem threads on the first page and the 50 overnight posts from a guy who will latch onto and spread any conspiracy theory without verification, or the guy in this thread who literally pulls beliefs out of his ass that he insists are true just because (Dems created a deadly bat virus to keep Trump from winning, the election was stolen because he saw some ballot carriers under a table, I'm being paid by George Soros to post here and create multiple handles, etc...etc... etc...) I'm the bad guy here because I'm one of the few that will jump into the lion's den and push back against all the nonsense.It wasn't a snap judgement. I've read enough of your posts to make up my mind. I never said whether you were civil or not. I said that there is no discourse because anyone that disagrees is seen as the enemy (wrong and malicious instead of having a different thought from a possibly grounded perspective).
I don't know your interactions with this poster and, frankly, I don't care about them. They don't prove or disprove my opinion of this particular board as a whole.
This is a place where Americans AND fellow Tiger fans, treat each other worse than I'd ever treat an actual person in my life that I detested simply because they vote a certain way. That's both sides. It's better to just avoid it and find what we agree on.
I think most of your opinions are flat out wrong and uninformed. You'd probably feel the same about me. In real life, I'd fight to defend you as a fellow American. On this board? The other side of the aisle might as well be the scum of the Earth. That's how everyone is treated here. So, as I said to the other gentleman...don't take the bait. Don't try to explain yourself. This is not a place for discourse or understanding.
What you're missing is that some of us feel that Trump is a much worse candidate historically speaking and we have two people to vote between, so even though she isn't our ideal candidate, she's the only thing that stands between us and an America we won't recognize.That even your side understands she is a historically awful candidate, but they were stuck with her.
I get the hate for trump and the idea of voting against him. I don’t understand actual enthusiasm for Kamala though. Someone on here even called her and Walz a “dream team” at one point. 🤣
Fair enough. But "even your side understands and historically awful" are exaggerations. Just about qualified as anyone before her, and much more so than one.That even your side understands she is a historically awful candidate, but they were stuck with her.
I get the hate for trump and the idea of voting against him. I don’t understand actual enthusiasm for Kamala though. Someone on here even called her and Walz a “dream team” at one point. 🤣
Fair enough. But "even your side understands and historically awful" are exaggerations. Just about qualified as anyone before her, and much more so than one.
And my side? Therein lies our problem with this cultish, I need to be on team mentality we have now. I was always a libertarian/quazi republican and fairly active in the party, until I came to some realizations. Biden is first Democrat president I've voted for. And like you pointed out, yes Trump drove me to vote for Biden. And Harris. In fact, I and the majority of country usually voted split tickets until the 80's and now vast majority vote straight ticket. As I will due to maga nuts.
The "historically awful candidate" bullshit is just very thinly veiled racism/sexism. I'd love for scotchtiger to explain how/why her resume doesn't stack up with other past candidates like George W Bush or Ronald Reagan or even Obama or especially Trump whom I'm sure scotchtiger had no problem voting for in 2016.Fair enough. But "even your side understands and historically awful" are exaggerations. Just about qualified as anyone before her, and much more so than one.
And my side? Therein lies our problem with this cultish, I need to be on team mentality we have now. I was always a libertarian/quazi republican and fairly active in the party, until I came to some realizations. Biden is first Democrat president I've voted for. And like you pointed out, yes Trump drove me to vote for Biden. And Harris. In fact, I and the majority of country usually voted split tickets until the 80's and now vast majority vote straight ticket. As I will due to maga nuts.
I'm sure you've noticed the large number of traditional Republicans that are lining up behind her, not because they agree with most of her politics but because the threat of Trump is a much bigger existential issue. If you really care about the future of your party, it seems the only way to return it to it's roots is to end the cult of maga and I find it odd that you don't see that clearly. You claim to hate trump and won't vote for him yet most of your posts make it seem like you're rooting for him to win - it's confusing.Yea the team sports stuff and increasingly partisan nature of politics is damaging to the country. I've semi-broken from the Republican party, but I have nowhere to go because the dems are awful and a I have fundamental disagreements on core elements of their political philosophy.
There’s no actual enthusiasm for Harris. It was all fake, and now it’s showing.That even your side understands she is a historically awful candidate, but they were stuck with her.
I get the hate for trump and the idea of voting against him. I don’t understand actual enthusiasm for Kamala though. Someone on here even called her and Walz a “dream team” at one point. 🤣
Do you realize how ridiculous this all reads, coming from you?And yet, despite the nasty 40 anti-Dem threads on the first page and the 50 overnight posts from a guy who will latch onto and spread any conspiracy theory without verification, or the guy in this thread who literally pulls beliefs out of his ass that he insists are true just because (Dems created a deadly bat virus to keep Trump from winning, the election was stolen because he saw some ballot carriers under a table, I'm being paid by George Soros to post here and create multiple handles, etc...etc... etc...) I'm the bad guy here because I'm one of the few that will jump into the lion's den and push back against all the nonsense.
It's not just about being conservative because I have a couple good friends who are conservative and we get along great and rarely even talk about politics, but they aren't rude, batshit crazy assholes like you find here on this board. That and the avalanche of lies are what fuel me to get in the mud and punch back. I'd much prefer it was a space where we could civilly discuss politics but the majority of the posters on the Right aren't interested in that, so that's why you see me fighting back, because just like you, I believe I'm on the right side of most of these issues and if me and a couple others didn't speak up, it would just be an echo chamber. So I will persisit.
Thanks for your input
Pulling that card, huh?The "historically awful candidate" bullshit is just very thinly veiled racism/sexism. I'd love for scotchtiger to explain how/why her resume doesn't stack up with other past candidates like George W Bush or Ronald Reagan or even Obama or especially Trump whom I'm sure scotchtiger had no problem voting for in 2016.
- Assistant DA of SF
- DA of SF
- AG of California
- Senator from California
- VP
Answer the question then.Pulling that card, huh?
Desperation is the last straw.
So you seriously believe that:So Trump is a better candidate. He has clearly stated that he plans to lock up people who refuses to vote for him by using the military. He has also clearly stated that most Hispanics will be deported to Concentration camps, and you think that this idiot is a deserving candidate to be president. If he becomes president, and he tries this Project 2025 junk, America will become unlivable.
She was the first to drop out of the democrat primary in 2020.Answer the question then.
What was Donald Trump's resume like when you voted for him in 2016 compared to hers now? This should be funny.