LA Fires

[fatpiggy]

Democrats policies deserve a lot of blame.

 

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[fatpiggy]

Ole Gavin is feeling the heat.

 

[southerncaltiger]

I’m not sure exactly what will happen, but I suspect massive changes.

Possible that California splinters into smaller states? I suspect that probability just increased exponentially.

No, I’m with you—I’m not sure either, but I put my faith in what I see first hand and my own professional experiences with Sacramento/California politics.

Any change won’t happen quickly; too much bureaucracy and the power brokers who control it won’t let it happen quickly.

Splinters? Lots of talk…highly unlikely to ever happen. Dividing up the water resources and infrastructure would be a colossal task. The consolidation and maturity of the electric utilities infrastructure in this state as compared to the water utilities industry is like comparing modern man to a troglodyte. It’s decades behind and while electric lines do age-out and need upgrading, water infrastructure wears out significantly faster. It probably doesn’t make the news back east when LADWP blows a large diameter distribution line, but it happens with regularity out here.

 

[fatpiggy]

No, I’m with you—I’m not sure either, but I put my faith in what I see first hand and my own professional experiences with Sacramento/California politics.

Any change won’t happen quickly; too much bureaucracy and the power brokers who control it won’t let it happen quickly.

Splinters? Lots of talk…highly unlikely to ever happen. Dividing up the water resources and infrastructure would be a colossal task. The consolidation and maturity of the electric utilities infrastructure in this state as compared to the water utilities industry is like comparing modern man to a troglodyte. It’s decades behind and while electric lines do age-out and need upgrading, water infrastructure wears out significantly faster. It probably doesn’t make the news back east when LADWP blows a large diameter distribution line, but it happens with regularity out here.

I disagree with your sentiment. I sense blood in the water and people are rightfully angry. I see sharks circling the democrats. Their policies are on display for the world to see.

Change happens fast. It isn’t slow. I was just in Prague a couple weeks ago touring and spoke to the tour guide about how fast the fall of communism came. It happened in a matter of weeks when the students just had enough.

The fire is the last straw for a lot of people. They lost their livelihood. No job to go back to. No house. Many with no insurance. Voters will not just look the other way as if this was just another nuisance. It’s a little different than having people shit on your sidewalk.

Democrat policies must be, and will be in my opinion, held accountable. I’m not sure exactly what it looks like, but I think 5 years from now things look very different in California.

 

[dpic73]

I disagree with your sentiment. I sense blood in the water and people are rightfully angry. I see sharks circling the democrats. Their policies are on display for the world to see.

Change happens fast. It isn’t slow. I was just in Prague a couple weeks ago touring and spoke to the tour guide about how fast the fall of communism came. It happened in a matter of weeks when the students just had enough.

The fire is the last straw for a lot of people. They lost their livelihood. No job to go back to. No house. Many with no insurance. Voters will not just look the other way as if this was just another nuisance. It’s a little different than having people shit on your sidewalk.

Democrat policies must be, and will be in my opinion, held accountable. I’m not sure exactly what it looks like, but I think 5 years from now things look very different in California.

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Trump isn't exactly known for his crisis management so what do you think he'll do differently?

 

[fatpiggy]

Trump isn't exactly known for his crisis management so what do you think he'll do differently?

I mean more of Democratic policies on forest management.

And also water management. I'll wait for more complete information to render full judgement, but why was a 117 million gallon reservoir empty for almost a year? Also, why is water diverted into the ocean when other states need that water?

There was literally no water to fight fires with. Who would you hold accountable for that? Someone in governement was responsible for those decisions and we all know who runs CA governement.

Another thing to consider is the red tape on rebuilding. Democrats will have to bend their rules or else they will be voted out. WAY too many regulations in place for a successful comeback. They will need to adjust, and i assume they will.

 

[southerncaltiger]

I disagree with your sentiment. I sense blood in the water and people are rightfully angry. I see sharks circling the democrats. Their policies are on display for the world to see.

Change happens fast. It isn’t slow. I was just in Prague a couple weeks ago touring and spoke to the tour guide about how fast the fall of communism came. It happened in a matter of weeks when the students just had enough.

The fire is the last straw for a lot of people. They lost their livelihood. No job to go back to. No house. Many with no insurance. Voters will not just look the other way as if this was just another nuisance. It’s a little different than having people shit on your sidewalk.

Democrat policies must be, and will be in my opinion, held accountable. I’m not sure exactly what it looks like, but I think 5 years from now things look very different in California.

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Maybe you’ll be correct. The 2021 Gubernatorial recall election failed spectacularly despite all of the chatter I watched & heard downtown about people wanting Newsom out.

Wake me up when LA, Santa Clara, and Marin Counties flip red. Then, I’ll be a believer.

 

[fatpiggy]

Maybe you’ll be correct. The 2021 Gubernatorial recall election failed spectacularly despite all of the chatter I watched & heard downtown about people wanting Newsom out.

Wake me up when LA, Santa Clara, and Marin Counties flip red. Then, I’ll be a believer.

I agree those counties won’t flip. That’s why I suspect the state may splinter.

It was already an idea, these fires probably cause it to gain more traction. Will be interesting to watch.

 

[dpic73]

I mean more of Democratic policies on forest management.

And also water management. I'll wait for more complete information to render full judgement, but why was a 117 million gallon reservoir empty for almost a year? Also, why is water diverted into the ocean when other states need that water?

There was literally no water to fight fires with. Who would you hold accountable for that? Someone in governement was responsible for those decisions and we all know who runs CA governement.

Another thing to consider is the red tape on rebuilding. Democrats will have to bend their rules or else they will be voted out. WAY too many regulations in place for a successful comeback. They will need to adjust, and i assume they will.

The reservoir was under repair because shit happens.

"The Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades has been closed for repairs after a covering designed to preserve water quality tore.

The reservoir’s status may have limited the water system’s ability to provide consistent pressure for firefighters, but Marty Adams, a former general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said it is unlikely to have made a significant difference in the battle against the Palisades Fire"

"Previously, the department said it had filled all available water facility storage tanks in Los Angeles ahead of the windstorm that spread the fire, including three 1 million-gallon tanks in the Palisades area."

Reservoir in Pacific Palisades was out of commission when fire started

California Gov. Gavin Newsom called for an investigation into the water supply troubles and the reservoir’s lack of availability.

www.nbcnews.com

What are Republican policies on forest management?

 

[dpic73]

I disagree with your sentiment. I sense blood in the water and people are rightfully angry. I see sharks circling the democrats. Their policies are on display for the world to see.

Change happens fast. It isn’t slow. I was just in Prague a couple weeks ago touring and spoke to the tour guide about how fast the fall of communism came. It happened in a matter of weeks when the students just had enough.

The fire is the last straw for a lot of people. They lost their livelihood. No job to go back to. No house. Many with no insurance. Voters will not just look the other way as if this was just another nuisance. It’s a little different than having people shit on your sidewalk.

Democrat policies must be, and will be in my opinion, held accountable. I’m not sure exactly what it looks like, but I think 5 years from now things look very different in California.

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Side note - I visited Prague a year and a half ago. What did you think of it?

PS - we aren't under Communist rule.