LA Fires
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No, I’m with you—I’m not sure either, but I put my faith in what I see first hand and my own professional experiences with Sacramento/California politics.
Any change won’t happen quickly; too much bureaucracy and the power brokers who control it won’t let it happen quickly.
Splinters? Lots of talk…highly unlikely to ever happen. Dividing up the water resources and infrastructure would be a colossal task. The consolidation and maturity of the electric utilities infrastructure in this state as compared to the water utilities industry is like comparing modern man to a troglodyte. It’s decades behind and while electric lines do age-out and need upgrading, water infrastructure wears out significantly faster. It probably doesn’t make the news back east when LADWP blows a large diameter distribution line, but it happens with regularity out here.
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I disagree with your sentiment. I sense blood in the water and people are rightfully angry. I see sharks circling the democrats. Their policies are on display for the world to see.
Change happens fast. It isn’t slow. I was just in Prague a couple weeks ago touring and spoke to the tour guide about how fast the fall of communism came. It happened in a matter of weeks when the students just had enough.
The fire is the last straw for a lot of people. They lost their livelihood. No job to go back to. No house. Many with no insurance. Voters will not just look the other way as if this was just another nuisance. It’s a little different than having people shit on your sidewalk.
Democrat policies must be, and will be in my opinion, held accountable. I’m not sure exactly what it looks like, but I think 5 years from now things look very different in California.
Trump isn't exactly known for his crisis management so what do you think he'll do differently?
I mean more of Democratic policies on forest management.
And also water management. I'll wait for more complete information to render full judgement, but why was a 117 million gallon reservoir empty for almost a year? Also, why is water diverted into the ocean when other states need that water?
There was literally no water to fight fires with. Who would you hold accountable for that? Someone in governement was responsible for those decisions and we all know who runs CA governement.
Another thing to consider is the red tape on rebuilding. Democrats will have to bend their rules or else they will be voted out. WAY too many regulations in place for a successful comeback. They will need to adjust, and i assume they will.
Maybe you’ll be correct. The 2021 Gubernatorial recall election failed spectacularly despite all of the chatter I watched & heard downtown about people wanting Newsom out.
Wake me up when LA, Santa Clara, and Marin Counties flip red. Then, I’ll be a believer.
I agree those counties won’t flip. That’s why I suspect the state may splinter.
It was already an idea, these fires probably cause it to gain more traction. Will be interesting to watch.
The reservoir was under repair because shit happens.
"The Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades has been closed for repairs after a covering designed to preserve water quality tore.
The reservoir’s status may have limited the water system’s ability to provide consistent pressure for firefighters, but Marty Adams, a former general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said it is unlikely to have made a significant difference in the battle against the Palisades Fire"
"Previously, the department said it had filled all available water facility storage tanks in Los Angeles ahead of the windstorm that spread the fire, including three 1 million-gallon tanks in the Palisades area."
Reservoir in Pacific Palisades was out of commission when fire started
California Gov. Gavin Newsom called for an investigation into the water supply troubles and the reservoir’s lack of availability.
www.nbcnews.com
What are Republican policies on forest management?
Side note - I visited Prague a year and a half ago. What did you think of it?
PS - we aren't under Communist rule.
Newscum has literally destroyed that state even before the fires of this year, yet apparently people still vote for him.
Me personally, I don't live there, and I can't even dream of an amount of money to make me live there. That being said, I think there are politics in CA that would make the 2020 election blush.
You can look at my post history to confirm this, but I am not continuously out waging war against lgbt(sp)/trans/etc. HOWEVER, there is no way you can convince me those three people were/are the best candidates for the job and just happen not to be heterosexual or males when the overwhelming pool of candidates(firefighters) would be heterosexual males. Statistically, it almost impossible.
To be clear, this likely changes nothing as far as the impact from the fires. It does show, however, that the left is perfectly fine with discrimination as long as it only applies to certain groups. More importantly, it shows that doing the best possible job and producing the best outcome for taxpayers comes second to advancing political and social agendas. That is a problem, and should be concerning to anyone.
One can only hope you didn't pay money to make yourself this stupid, but I guarantee you have a degree hanging on a wall somewhere that you are very proud of.
"I don't know that those choices made the people in charge wrong. You can't fund everything. You have to decide what amount of risk is acceptable vs the amount of money you have." Just look at this "doosey" you just thought was smart to post.
HO-LEE-FVK!
This goes much further than the fires that are burning as we speak. It seems those people out there have plenty of money to spend on things that don't provide for the safety of their citizens.
People are leaving there as fast as they can, provided they have the money to do it. I showed my sister the "sh!t map of SF" before she ever moved out there. There is rampant homelessness. They support giving "sex change operations" for people in jail. They want to eliminate gas engines-the intent is make everything to go electric. Someone/Some people are getting a big "kickback" there.
Just think about the people that lost their "insurance" just within the last year, so "concerned citizens" could buy up their property at a very discounted price. How many times does Cali get to call "wolf", and disregard their stupidity? How many times?
They would be in good shape now minus stupidity. These people love the wonderful salaries but they are not smart enough to do the job.
What in the tee total fvck does her position have to do with her personal life?
Can one of you LGBTQers get in here and explain this?
Prague was awesome I really enjoyed it.
Prague was under the rule of Hitler and the Stassi. I visited the location where the students overwhelmed the German police to make it to the square to set off the revolution. It’s still marked by a couple of statues and the hands that protrude from the wall. I forget the significance of that.
it happened quick, in matter of a few days to a couple weeks. The momentum from the students was overwhelming and the fall of communism was swift.
One of my favorite purchases while there was a book called “Hammer and Tickle - a history of communism told through communist jokes.”
It’s very interesting and tells how the jokes came about due to speech being curtailed by the stassi etc.
The book also explains how communism doesn’t start out as communism. It is designed to start as socialism and then finally converge to communism at the end. In the end, the community owns the assets. But that’s not how it starts.
Also spoke with the Czech people and one of our guides explained the communist life. “Don’t be confused, it was a good life.” She had fond memories of her childhood, but she much prefers capitalism. Her parents preferred the communists because they enjoyed the security. They knew where their next paycheck was coming from and they knew they were going to have food on the table.
But at the same time, they weren’t allowed to do so many things. They could’nt travel outside of their area freely. Speech was curtailed. You lived behind the iron curtain.
Essentially they traded freedom for security. Not a great trade.
Prague has nuclear energy so energy prices are reasonable.
The Czechs view Americans with a touch of the side eye. We bombed Prague during the war for an unknown reason. America claimed it was a navigational error but the Czech people remain a bit skeptical about that from what I could gather.
Beer is delicious and cheap.
The Czech people are not religious at all. I think they declare to be the most atheist nation.
Sorry for the rant, but you asked. Lol
What did you learn from your trip?
You’re disgusting. Mel Gibson has no knowledge of anything. Much like when you post COVID facts that were made up in a suburban garage lab. There are real people who are displaced and lost everything. Posting shit like this is disingenuous at best.
We took a two-day side trip to Prague by train from Berlin so we were only there for a couple days but I loved the old world charm.
Highlights were the Charles Bridge (stayed beside it), the Castle, Old Town and the old Jewish cemetery which was really interesting - 10,000 graves all stacked on top of each other on a tiny plot of land because they could only be buried in the ghetto. Meant to get to Wenceslas Square where the Velvet Revolution took place but didn't get a chance.
I think you meant they were under Soviet rule when the revolution took place, right? I became interested in Kafka since there were monuments to him everywhere. Also, these things were everywhere so I said screw the diet because they were amazing LOL. I can't pronounce it (trdelniks) but it's like a donut shaped into a cone and baked over hot coals. Most have Nutella in the bottom
I highly recommend visiting but I don't think it qualifies for a weeklong trip since it's a relatively small city and you can see most of the highlights pretty quickly.
Here on the east coast in South Carolina we do controlled burns to get the fuel off the forest floor. Less fuel for wildfires to consume should they get started.The reservoir was under repair because shit happens.
"The Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades has been closed for repairs after a covering designed to preserve water quality tore.
The reservoir’s status may have limited the water system’s ability to provide consistent pressure for firefighters, but Marty Adams, a former general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said it is unlikely to have made a significant difference in the battle against the Palisades Fire"
"Previously, the department said it had filled all available water facility storage tanks in Los Angeles ahead of the windstorm that spread the fire, including three 1 million-gallon tanks in the Palisades area."
Reservoir in Pacific Palisades was out of commission when fire started
California Gov. Gavin Newsom called for an investigation into the water supply troubles and the reservoir’s lack of availability.
What are Republican policies on forest management?
This has been a discrepancy for many years. Its not like its just coming to a head. CA likes to do things their way and this is their way. Unfortunately, the results speak for themselves.
For me I'd be doing road trips into the countryside. I can only take city life so long though I'm sure Prague has a lot to offer.We took a two-day side trip to Prague by train from Berlin so we were only there for a couple days but I loved the old world charm.
Highlights were the Charles Bridge (stayed beside it), the Castle, Old Town and the old Jewish cemetery which was really interesting - 10,000 graves all stacked on top of each other on a tiny plot of land because they could only be buried in the ghetto. Meant to get to Wenceslas Square where the Velvet Revolution took place but didn't get a chance.
I think you meant they were under Soviet rule when the revolution took place, right? I became interested in Kafka since there were monuments to him everywhere. Also, these things were everywhere so I said screw the diet because they were amazing LOL. I can't pronounce it (trdelniks) but it's like a donut shaped into a cone and baked over hot coals. Most have Nutella in the bottom
I highly recommend visiting but I don't think it qualifies for a weeklong trip since it's a relatively small city and you can see most of the highlights pretty quickly.
That would have been interesting too but it was a side trip with most of our time spent in Berlin. The 4 hour train ride from Berlin takes you through lots of countryside so I did see it from a window lol.
FWIW there are several reports from different people claiming they saw arsonists. They also posted video showing them starting fires. So this is not out of the realm of possibility.
We took a two-day side trip to Prague by train from Berlin so we were only there for a couple days but I loved the old world charm.
Highlights were the Charles Bridge (stayed beside it), the Castle, Old Town and the old Jewish cemetery which was really interesting - 10,000 graves all stacked on top of each other on a tiny plot of land because they could only be buried in the ghetto. Meant to get to Wenceslas Square where the Velvet Revolution took place but didn't get a chance.
I think you meant they were under Soviet rule when the revolution took place, right? I became interested in Kafka since there were monuments to him everywhere. Also, these things were everywhere so I said screw the diet because they were amazing LOL. I can't pronounce it (trdelniks) but it's like a donut shaped into a cone and baked over hot coals. Most have Nutella in the bottom
I highly recommend visiting but I don't think it qualifies for a weeklong trip since it's a relatively small city and you can see most of the highlights pretty quickly.
The Germans and Hitler occupied Prague from 1939-1945. On my tour we saw the hotel that the German soldiers and Stassi took over and stayed at. They would patrol the streets and monitor the Czech people. While it wasn't explicity forbidden to practice religion, it was noted who went to church and they were excluded from society. (Reminds me of the covid shots). That is the type of thing the Germans were patrolling.
The soviets ruled Prague after the war because that was how the United States brokered the peace agreement. There was some line, im drawing a blank, that essentially gave control of Prague to the Soviets after the war.
Grok:
Before World War II, Prague was not ruled by either the Soviets or the Germans in the context of national governance. Here's a brief overview:
- Czechoslovakia: Prague was the capital of Czechoslovakia, which was established in 1918 after the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Czechoslovakia was an independent, democratic republic until the events leading to World War II.
- Munich Agreement (1938): Prior to the war, the Sudetenland, which included areas around but not directly Prague, was annexed by Nazi Germany following the Munich Agreement. This was a significant territorial loss for Czechoslovakia but did not directly involve Soviet rule.
- German Occupation (1939): In March 1939, Nazi Germany occupied the rest of Czechoslovakia, turning it into the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, with Prague under German control. This occupation lasted until the end of World War II in 1945.
- Soviet Influence: The Soviet Union did not directly rule Prague before the war. Soviet influence came much later, after World War II, when Czechoslovakia became a communist state under Soviet influence, particularly after the coup in 1948.
Therefore, before the war, Prague was under German control only after the occupation in 1939, not Soviet. If you're asking about Soviet rule, that would pertain to the period after World War II, not before.
After World War II, Prague, as part of Czechoslovakia, fell under communist rule for several interconnected historical and geopolitical reasons:
- Yalta and Potsdam Conferences: During these 1945 conferences, the Allied powers (the U.S., UK, and Soviet Union) essentially divided post-war Europe into spheres of influence. Eastern Europe, including Czechoslovakia, was largely left within the Soviet sphere. This was not an explicit agreement to install communism but rather an acknowledgment of Soviet influence and military presence in these regions.
- Soviet Military Presence: The Red Army liberated Prague from Nazi control in May 1945, and they remained in Czechoslovakia for some time after the war. This military presence provided the Soviets with significant leverage over the country's political direction.
- Domestic Political Dynamics: Czechoslovakia had a strong Communist Party even before the war, and the party's popularity increased due to the Soviet Union's role in defeating Nazi Germany. The Communist Party gained significant support in the 1946 elections, although they did not win an outright majority.
- The 1948 Coup d'État: This event was pivotal. In February 1948, the Communist Party, with the backing of the Soviet Union and using their control over the police and other state institutions, managed to seize power completely. This was facilitated by the resignation of non-communist ministers from the government, leading to a one-party communist state.
- Cold War Tensions: The onset of the Cold War meant that the West was less willing or able to intervene directly in Eastern European politics to prevent the spread of communism. The Iron Curtain had descended, and with it came a tacit acceptance of different political systems on either side.
- Economic and Strategic Considerations: The Soviet Union aimed to secure its borders against future threats by creating a buffer zone of friendly states. Czechoslovakia's industrial and strategic value was significant to Soviet interests. Conversely, the Western powers were more focused on rebuilding Western Europe and containing communism there rather than challenging Soviet dominance in Eastern Europe directly.
- Internal Support for Socialism: There was genuine support for socialist ideals among segments of the Czech and Slovak populations due to social inequalities, the promise of land reforms, and the appeal of a new social order after the devastations of war.
Thus, the combination of Soviet military presence, internal political shifts, the global geopolitical climate, and strategic interests led Czechoslovakia, including Prague, to fall under communist Soviet influence rather than aligning with the capitalist West post-war.
We also do controlled burns regardless of what your media tells you. Unfortunately there are places where you just can’t do them and some of that terrain is in the Angeles forest. Plus the densely populated areas immediately below the burns that would be covered in smoke and ash. Some places they make sense and we’ve been doing them for years.
Cool. There’s reports every year of people seeing Bigfoot. It’s still disgusting to say shit like that on national TV. Reposting it here is next level. You see something that’s sick and then post it as if you agree. Sad how divided this country is. And for what? Two parties who don’t actually give a **** about us?
Nah. There are credible reports, with video, from multiple sources, of arson.
Its not disgusting to say the truth. Thats what got us in trouble the last 4 years.
What would be disgusting is not getting the truth out there.
There is absolutely nothing political about suggesting the fires started by arson. Maybe i missed something?
Thanks, I didn't need a history lesson, I was referring to this:
You're referencing Hitler and the Nazis in relation to the revolution. The Velvet Revolution was 1989 and it overthrew Soviet rule, not the Nazis.
Czechoslovakia’s Velvet Revolution Started 30 Years Ago—But It Was Decades in the Making
On Nov. 17, 1989, student protesters filled the streets of Prague
ah yes, thanks for the clarificationThanks, I didn't need a history lesson, I was referring to this:
You're referencing Hitler and the Nazis in relation to the revolution. The Velvet Revolution was 1989 and it overthrew Soviet rule, not the Nazis.
Czechoslovakia’s Velvet Revolution Started 30 Years Ago—But It Was Decades in the Making
On Nov. 17, 1989, student protesters filled the streets of Praguetime.com
More proof of how Magas distort and lie about everything. If you listened to the clip, he clearly said the (3) million gallon reservoirs were full, which is true. He mistakenly called them reservoirs but meant water towers. Also the words "million gallon" should also have been a clue that he wasn't talking about the "117 million gallon" reservoir.
Will you ever evolve?
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