Looks like we will get a House vote on Same-sex Marriage, Contraception and Abortion
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tax subsidy stops when they get to pick and choose who they serve
religious organizations should lose their tax exempt status
I'd be good with not allowing political contributions from either.
Yep. And the pubs still hated him for being a muslim. Look the greater good is at stake here and we should not bring up old crap to derail it.
So have your super special Bible marriage in your church and leave the government out of it which is clearly spelled our in our constitution.
Be happy to. But that isn't clear in the bill that just passed. And your condescension is noted as per usual. You might have noticed quite a few religious denominations being torn asunder over this issue because the leftists want it all. The less choice and the less freedom the better for those folks.
Yah sure man
Republicans want to tell you what books you can read, what meds you can take, what words you can say, what history you can learn, what you can do with your uterus, who you can love… but tell me more about how the Dems are “coming for your freedoms”
'To Kill a Mockingbird,' Other Books Banned in Schools Over Racism Concerns
Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" and Mildred D. Taylor's 'Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry" among other books banned.
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Illinois community leaders want to abolish history lessons in schools | CNN
An Illinois lawmaker and community leaders are calling for the immediate removal of history books and suspension of history lessons in their school districts because they say current materials and lesson plans "lead to white privilege and a racist society."
Somerville City Council bans crisis pregnancy centers - The Tufts Daily
The Somerville City Council passed an ordinance on March 24 banning crisis pregnancy centers, defining them as deceptive, limited services pregnancy centers that do not directly provide or refer clients for abortions or emergency contraception.
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Your last post is rather remarkable. You have such a one-sided way of seeing things. Probably because you only read one side. It makes you rather ignorant. The one about words is pretty rich. It is unbelievable that you actually think that. It's also ironic to me how you refer to what someone can do with their uterus rather than what someone can do with an unborn baby. Pretty barbaric stuff there bud.
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The books weren't banned, they were removed from "required" reading lists but still available in the library. A wholly different approach from banning math books because they teach CRT. SMFH'To Kill a Mockingbird,' Other Books Banned in Schools Over Racism Concerns
Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" and Mildred D. Taylor's 'Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry" among other books banned.
Illinois community leaders want to abolish history lessons in schools | CNN
An Illinois lawmaker and community leaders are calling for the immediate removal of history books and suspension of history lessons in their school districts because they say current materials and lesson plans "lead to white privilege and a racist society."www.cnn.com
Somerville City Council bans crisis pregnancy centers - The Tufts Daily
The Somerville City Council passed an ordinance on March 24 banning crisis pregnancy centers, defining them as deceptive, limited services pregnancy centers that do not directly provide or refer clients for abortions or emergency contraception.
Your last post is rather remarkable. You have such a one-sided way of seeing things. Probably because you only read one side. It makes you rather ignorant. The one about words is pretty rich. It is unbelievable that you actually think that. It's also ironic to me how you refer to what someone can do with their uterus rather than what someone can do with an unborn baby. Pretty barbaric stuff there bud.
"After parent complaints about the use of racist epithets in To Kill a Mockingbird; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; The Cay; Of Mice and Men; and Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, the Burbank (CA) Unified School District superintendent issued a statement removing the books from the district’s required reading lists for its English curriculum and banned the use of the N-word in all school classes. The books will be allowed in classroom libraries, but no student can be required to read them. At a board meeting, the superintendent stated, “This is not about censorship, this is about righting the wrongs of the past.”
Banned Books 2022 - To Kill a Mockingbird
Banned Books 2022 - Marshall University Libraries - Harper Lee' To Kill a Mockingbird - Page on books banned/challenged around the United States for various reasons over the past year - Ron Titus
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Democrats' drive to ban assault-style rifles roils U.S. House panel
A Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives panel on Wednesday worked toward approving legislation to ban assault-style rifles such as those used in recent mass shootings, and another bill allowing lawsuits against firearms manufacturers.
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Democrats Propose Banning Gendered Language in House Rules
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday proposed a series of House rule changes that include banning the use of gendered terms in favor of more inclusive ones, ditching "he" and "she" for "they."Instead of using the pronouns "he" or "she," members would be required to use "member," "delegate," or...
Lieu 'Glad' Dr. Seuss Books 'Cancelled,' Dems Focused on Stimulus Checks
The California Democrat questioned the extent to which Americans care about the decision that several of the author's books will no longer be published.
www.newsweek.com
Half of Democrats support a ban on hate speech | YouGov
Most Americans support expanded federal hate crime laws, and most Democrats support banning hate speech
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I could go on and on with this but I just wanted to make the point.
I haven't even started with social media censorship, etc. that Democrats quietly push and support but only from one side.
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You can't teach the complexity and depravity of our history of race relations without the judicious use of the n-word. It's just that simple.
The removal of anything related to CRT is a step in a good direction. That's an anti-intellectual revolutionary concept that breeds more racism not less. Both sides don't have everything right and we do have the opportunity to choose what we're going to go forward with. The state of Florida has every right to make those choices. Actually, the state of California does too with respect to the books they seek to remove. My point is that it goes on with both sides. These days, people just aren't terribly bright so they'd rather get rid of things than have to explain and combat them with reason and logic. If you don't like it, stop marching in that parade because you do it all the time, every day on this board with our posts.
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So you want to take away their tax exempt status over supporting something as fundamental as life? The vitriol by some folks here toward religion is really scary. Why don't you come to church with me and you can see reality? I'd love to meet you anyway.
no, i think churches, and unions, should lose tax exempt status. there's no real reason for it, especially when they have the ability to throw millions of dollars towards political endeavors. sure this'll probably hurt the small rural churches, but it seems the big mega ones are swimming in cash
I would not be tremendously opposed to making some caveats to try and limit political action by churches. It would have to be very clearly defined and I don't know that abortion should fit there. I think advocating against the murder of unborn babies is pretty basic humanity type of stuff. That being said, most churches don't do that. All the cash they are swimming in (if they in fact are) is from donations by members. However, I fervently disagree with politics from the pulpit. It has no place there. The salvation offered by God is not politically dependent. I would never attend a church engaged in such things.
It also bears noting again that more aid, more service toward those in need, more disaster relief, more free counselling, more food for the hungry, more humanitarian assistance, etc. is done by Christian churches than any other non-governmental group in the world and more than most governments as well. That never seems to get talked about but hundreds of millions are served by the people through the love that comes to us through Jesus Christ.
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no argument from me on the good that comes from churches. my family is incredibly engaged with the church i grew up attending, and they (the church) do a tremendous service for those in need. and i'd probably also argue that the overwhelming majority (not data to support this but my gut thinks it's probably 95%+) run on a tight budget and don't donate any of their excess funds to political causes. however, my big gripe is more focused on televangelists, mega churches, and institutions like the above that choose to donate to certain political causes and skirt by on not having to pay any taxes.
Again, a school district deciding to no longer require a book to be on a reading list or a publisher deciding not to print any more copies of a book is not the same as a governor banning math books over a fake culture war issue. The examples you provided don't describe banning books, got it?Democrats' drive to ban assault-style rifles roils U.S. House panel
A Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives panel on Wednesday worked toward approving legislation to ban assault-style rifles such as those used in recent mass shootings, and another bill allowing lawsuits against firearms manufacturers.
Democrats Propose Banning Gendered Language in House Rules
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday proposed a series of House rule changes that include banning the use of gendered terms in favor of more inclusive ones, ditching "he" and "she" for "they."Instead of using the pronouns "he" or "she," members would be required to use "member," "delegate," or...news.yahoo.com
Lieu 'Glad' Dr. Seuss Books 'Cancelled,' Dems Focused on Stimulus Checks
The California Democrat questioned the extent to which Americans care about the decision that several of the author's books will no longer be published.
Half of Democrats support a ban on hate speech | YouGov
Most Americans support expanded federal hate crime laws, and most Democrats support banning hate speech
I could go on and on with this but I just wanted to make the point.
Also pretty rich for you to preach how things should be taught honestly while fearmongering about a "theory" that isn't even taught except in graduate level studies. But even if it was taught in high school, are teenagers no longer allowed to discuss a theory for fear it would damage them? What a performative crock of shit the Right is peddling.
What is the Right so afraid of? Is it the fear that if their children find empathy with others they might become a Democrat? *Gasp! Like Tucker says, "just asking the question"
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A Philadelphia elementary school recently forced fifth-grade students to celebrate “black communism” and simulate a Black Power rally in honor of political radical Angela Davis. According to whistleblower documents and a source within the school, a fifth-grade teacher at the inner-city William...
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The 1619 Project curriculum taught in over 4,500 schools — Frederick County Public Schools has the option - Medill News Service
Teachers in Frederick County Public Schools have the option to teach slavery via The 1619 Project curriculum.
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Critical Race Training in primary and secondary education is a growing issue and one that’s significantly more difficult to track.
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I can go on and on with this too. No, CRT in it's original form is not taught in K-12 schools. However, curriculum has been created that is based in CRT tenants and this is everywhere. Saying CRT isn't taught in schools is true and spectacularly dishonest all at once. So you can stand on your little data point against the avalanche of evidence that demonstrates the impact of CRT in public schools. It is literally everywhere! The 1619 project is an example. It's taught in thousands of schools. It isn't a subject for debate. It is factually inaccurate from it's origin through it's conclusions. Just in no way is it historically accurate.
The concept of equity is evil, false, impossible, divisive, destructive and it is not a path to progress. Creating an illusion there can be equity is just insane. We should strive for equality in every way possible but equity has been slipped in there and it is so corrosive to any hopes for progress as a society.
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Oh look, someone used their google box to find some anecdotal examples of things that are rarely and infrequently taught, in hopes of convincing us that everybody is learning harmful lessons about black history that will scar them and make them feel guilty. This includes history as experienced by people other than Northern European white men. Oh the horror, we mustn't allow that to happen - it will harm the children! Only white history is true and pure enough for innocent ears, say the culture warriors on the Right! We must scrub the curriculum and remove all other perspectives or our country will be destroyed by wokeness!
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Resources and guidance to support Black, LatinX, and Multilingual students to thrive in grades 6-8 A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction is an integrated approach to mathematics that centers Black, Latinx, and Multilingual students in grades 6-8, addresses barriers to math equity, and aligns...equitablemath.org
Bad Education
A Philadelphia elementary school recently forced fifth-grade students to celebrate “black communism” and simulate a Black Power rally in honor of political radical Angela Davis. According to whistleblower documents and a source within the school, a fifth-grade teacher at the inner-city William...
jcpsdep Publisher Publications - Issuu
Jefferson County Public Schools | Diversity, Equity, and Poverty Departmentissuu.com
The 1619 Project curriculum taught in over 4,500 schools — Frederick County Public Schools has the option - Medill News Service
Teachers in Frederick County Public Schools have the option to teach slavery via The 1619 Project curriculum.
K-12
Critical Race Training in primary and secondary education is a growing issue and one that’s significantly more difficult to track.
I can go on and on with this too. No, CRT in it's original form is not taught in K-12 schools. However, curriculum has been created that is based in CRT tenants and this is everywhere. Saying CRT isn't taught in schools is true and spectacularly dishonest all at once. So you can stand on your little data point against the avalanche of evidence that demonstrates the impact of CRT in public schools. It is literally everywhere! The 1619 project is an example. It's taught in thousands of schools. It isn't a subject for debate. It is factually inaccurate from it's origin through it's conclusions. Just in no way is it historically accurate.
The concept of equity is evil, false, impossible, divisive, destructive and it is not a path to progress. Creating an illusion there can be equity is just insane. We should strive for equality in every way possible but equity has been slipped in there and it is so corrosive to any hopes for progress as a society.
By mega church I agree, if you mean like Elevation and Newspring and that ilk, right on. It’s also interesting that those mega churches, the pastors usually turn up to be very corrupt (Newspring had an alcoholic preacher at some point in time, probably 7ish years ago, I was at Clemson when this occurred). Don’t get me wrong definitely all for preaching Gods word, and I admittedly have been to Newspring on several occasions when I was in college and they have great sermons, but I’m on board with you that the cash flow is ridiculous for those entities
We will see. I get that argument for sure... I just don't believe it when it comes out of a lot of folk's mouths and that includes Ted Cruz. IF Cruz and company aren't lying their asses off, they will vote in favor of gay marriage and contraception. I'm not holding my breath and will frankly be STUNNED if he does. I would be willing to bet a small amount that he votes no.
I agree with this for sure. There's a pretty strong minority on both sides of the aisle that will vote no on any bill that comes from the opposite side, regardless of merit.
i finally received a response from Harris
Dear Mr. _________,
Thank you for taking the time to contact me with your thoughts regarding H.R. 8404, the Respect for Marriage Act. As a husband, father of six, and grandfather of 10, I recognize the important role that the institution of marriage plays in our livelihoods. I very much appreciate your interest and input on this issue.
As you may know, H.R. 8404 would provide statutory authority for same-sex and interracial marriages. Specifically, the bill would repeal and replace provisions that define, for federal purposes, “marriage” and “spouse” under the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) with provisions that recognize any marriage valid under state law. Additionally, the bill would prohibit states from failing to recognize a marriage from another state on the basis of sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin.
It should be noted that DOMA, which was supported by then-Senator Joe Biden and signed into law by Democratic President Bill Clinton, was found unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in the U.S. v Windsor (2013) decision. Additionally, the Court affirmed the right to same-sex and interracial marriages in its decisions in Obergefell v. Hodges (2015) and Loving v. Virginia (1967). Same-sex and interracial marriage rights are already the law of the land, and there is no ongoing legal effort to curb these rights. So, the provisions within H.R. 8404 are entirely unnecessary. Instead of resolving pending issues, this bill is simply an effort by some in Congress to capitalize on misplaced fear among the public that same-sex and interracial marriage rights could be in jeopardy following the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Dobbs v. Jackson, which overturned the 1964 Roe v. Wade abortion decision. This comes despite the fact that the justices in the majority of the Dobbs decision emphatically declared that the ruling did not cast doubt on, or put into question, any other case’s precedents, including the Court’s decisions regarding same-sex and interracial marriage.
On July 18, 2022, H.R. 8404 was passed by the House of Representatives by a vote of 267-157, with my vote in opposition. It now heads to the Senate for possible consideration. Rest assured, I will keep your thoughts in mind as I continue to monitor this legislation.
I hope this information has been helpful. As Congress addresses the many challenges facing our nation, I hope you will continue to share your suggestions. To keep up with my work in Congress, visit my website at harris.house.gov and sign up to receive updates at harris.house.gov/contact/newsletter.
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