1 Samuel 2:3
Talk no more so very proudly, let not arrogance come from your mouth; for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed
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1 Samuel 2:3
Talk no more so very proudly, let not arrogance come from your mouth; for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed
Supporting people who go against Christian values is pretty much the definition of being a Christian, is it not?
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
And your Messiah put us in 15 $trillion in Debt. I whole heartily supported Rand. I am down to Carson and Kasich.
LOL.... this past Sunday we hit on this in Sunday School. Great discussion. What discussion did you have at Sunday School this past Sunday?
But he can sure make appearances on TV talk shows, no problem.
Sweet David of the Israelites, there's so much wrong here factually it's not even funny. Let's go to the map shall we?
Our deficit this year is $450+B. That's hardly a victory. Obama called Bush un-American in 2007 for running such deficits... Let's apply the same standard to all shall we? Bush didn't do a number of things right and that's why Democrats would say he was so horrible. Now they compare Obama to him and try to justify the horrid nature of his presidency compared to a guy that burned in effigy and called a Nazi. How stupid are these people to do that? Duh!
Also, people have these fantasies about the Clinton years but they don't know what the hell they are talking about. Two important things here... 1. Clinton and the Republicans in Congress took from the SS surplus to balance the budget. 2. The revenues were on a high note and spending was severely decreased. Here's what I mean...
The federal spending in 2001 (last time we ran a surplus) was $1.869T and revenues were just over $1.99T. This year, the federal spending was $3.69T and revenues were $3.2T. We've raised our revenues far slower than we have increased our spending. It's only going to get worse. You can't almost double spending in a 15 year period and stay on course. The White House projects that in 2021 we'll be spending over $5.12T annually and it keeps going up. To meet this, they think we can take revenues and increase them in 5 years as much as we have in the previous 16 years. Does that math work for you or sound right? As Scalia would have said, it's pure applesauce. They know what's coming and couldn't care less because they won't be there.
Get your damn head out of the clouds and do the freaking math. It's all out there on the White House website for anyone to read. You guys can love Obama all you want but you're freaking wrong as you can be about everything you say. Math is math whether you're on the left or the right. Get your head out of your ass!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
.....You think one's political views have anything to do with the strength of their faith? You don't think democrats can be Christians?
I will never understand spewing vitriol or disliking someone because you disagree with someone's politics. Harboring so much hate in your heart just because someone thinks differently than you, unbelievable.
So would you not be friends with someone if they were a democrat?
Also, in case you missed it, the 1990's were a vacation from history. And in case you missed it part 2, some things kinda happened in 2001 that changed things. Maybe you were absent those days? Ups and downs are economic reality. We need a budget that can handle the good and the bad so that we don't set our spending on high water marks over and over again... That's impossible when the Federal government is spending so much money taking care of people. We have to alter EVERYTHING we do in order to survive and get past this.
If by "my messiah" you mean President Obama, you should do some homework before you spout mouth diarrhea. The debt was 5T when Bush came into office and 10T when he left. It is now 15T, so both Obama and Bush contributed 5T to the debt.
Damn, those facts getting in the way of a good 'ol Obama bashing!
Oh I never said I hated anyone. That is your false judgment towards me.
I have Democratic friends that call themselves Christian and point out their hypocrisy all the time.
Do I think Republicans are angels.... far from it.... but I will support those who follows Christian Values more than those who completely ignore them for political gain.
Those are not facts... just because you said them. We were near 5 Trillion in debt when Bush left. Remember he fell into a surplus after Clinton.
I'm also a Christian and a "Deacon" in church but I vote democratic most of the time. Did not Jesus spend most of his time with the poor and needy. If I or my country helps the poor and they misuse their help on drugs are we not doing the Christian thing and they are the sinner?
You still didn't answer my question. I doubt you will. I am not being arrogant. I'm just saying that you probably don't know what it means. Not what I say it means but what it means in itself. It is not arrogance to proclaim an already established meaning...
You should help the poor and spend your life trying to improve their lot. The area where you seem to be blind is that it's not the government's role to do that. That isn't what our government is for. Unless you're saying we have a Christian government and we should become Theocracy. You don't get to talk out of both sides of your ass about this. In the process of doing this, running up a huge debt which will impoverish your kids or my kids or your grandkids, etc. IS SINFUL! It's also selfish as hell. Duh!
I like the deflection, no one wants to debate that what I said is wrong. Does the Democrats support LBGT community although it is against God's word. Does the Democrats support Abortion? There are so many examples... but oh you have to be progressive. Not in God's eyes.
I am not the judge, jury or executioner..... but I will call out others hypocrisy.
Proverbs 11:2
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom.
@amynhop, jumping to conclusions again. @IMBlessed could have been referring to a certain Secretary of the Treasury and not Ronnie.
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I always find it funny when conservatives like to take credit for the economy during Clinton's years because they controlled Congress but also like to take credit for the economy during Reagan's years, even though he had a Democratic Congress.
Who has their head in the sand?
Voodoo economics? Quit reading liberal talking points, the economy took off with Reagan.
CuWR is usually a great guy. Not sure what's going on here. He could try answering a question and it would be helpful.
CuWR - When you say something is wrong, you are not judging that person. Rendering judgment on a person is to condemn them and their life and that is wrong. We have no right to do that. But Jesus repeatedly illustrates how we are to hold one another accountable and how we are to help each other on the narrow path. As He said, wide is the past to everlasting damnation.
Im just poking bearsCuWR is usually a great guy. Not sure what's going on here. He could try answering a question and it would be helpful.
because its Thursday, and my calendar is clear till 2pm
And you jumping to his defense. Such chivalry damecourt. I'm reasonably sure the poster was referring to Ronald Reagan. In case you didn't know; Reagan democrat is actually a term. You can look it up. However; it was nice of you to point out what poster "may" have been referring to-@amynhop, jumping to conclusions again. @IMBlessed could have been referring to a certain Secretary of the Treasury and not Ronnie.
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I at least thought you could read. I was saying that Congress and Clinton STOLE from SS surplus to balance the budget and even the surplus. That's STEALING as in the crime. As had been done for decades by Democrats and Republicans alike. Is that more clear for you?
I don't do this Presidents and the economy crap. Tax policy helps create a climate for growth. It is either business friendly or overly robust in terms of too much taxation. Reagan's contribution was lowering taxes (working with Democrats who helped) and creating a climate for growth. From there, the American people took over. Clinton stayed out of the way and didn't get carried away with taxes while he was President. There was a huge amount of growth with the rise of the internet and he didn't screw it up. He let people work and didn't go crazy with spending. Part of this was his intelligence about the situation and part was because a Republican Congress held him in check.
And finally, you have your head in the sand. You're politically invested sir. You have one way you will see things. You are unwilling to see reality in any way, shape or form. You only see how you can exploit things to try and make your point. And when in doubt, you just don't read what's said and respond anyway. Try sticking with facts. They won't always lead you to places you will like but they will always serve you well.
GW Bush was on vacation more than any other President but that is ok because he is a Republican. Had he not been on vacation so much in the first few months of office he might have read the intelligence briefings better and helped us avoid 911. But, again, he is a Republican so he gets a free pass for his vacation time since he spent it in Crawford Texas instead of Hawaii. The double standard of posters in regards to vacation time and Presidents is almost laughable.
Just curious about your posting on slimming down the govt. The vast majority of govt expenditures are in Defense, Social Securtiy and Medicare/Medicaid. Which of these do you think he or anyone will reduce? Eliminating the Dept of Ed sounds good (and I am all for it being slimmed down), but at the end of the day these areas are a drop in the bucket compared to the big ones that no one even wants to touch.
Wow, I guess you forgot that part about judging others. Many of the Republicans today remind me of the scribes and the Pharisees that wail in the streets the name of God and their prayers but in their heart they are dead. I am paraphrasing several verses here but the point is that Jesus says he will cast into hell on the day of judgement many that have acted like they supported his cause but in their hearts they showed otherwise. I just have to think that Jesus would have a big problem with cutting taxes on the rich and then taking away medical care for the poor, both of which are tenets of the modern Republican party. Jesus' ministry was spent mainly with the poor and he was clearly a leader that had a lot of concern about the hearts of the rich. Yet it is this party that claims to love Jesus more and know Jesus more! Do their actions match up with Jesus' teaching?
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I at least thought you could read. I was saying that Congress and Clinton STOLE from SS surplus to balance the budget and even the surplus. That's STEALING as in the crime. As had been done for decades by Democrats and Republicans alike. Is that more clear for you?
I don't do this Presidents and the economy crap. Tax policy helps create a climate for growth. It is either business friendly or overly robust in terms of too much taxation. Reagan's contribution was lowering taxes (working with Democrats who helped) and creating a climate for growth. From there, the American people took over. Clinton stayed out of the way and didn't get carried away with taxes while he was President. There was a huge amount of growth with the rise of the internet and he didn't screw it up. He let people work and didn't go crazy with spending. Part of this was his intelligence about the situation and part was because a Republican Congress held him in check.
And finally, you have your head in the sand. You're politically invested sir. You have one way you will see things. You are unwilling to see reality in any way, shape or form. You only see how you can exploit things to try and make your point. And when in doubt, you just don't read what's said and respond anyway. Try sticking with facts. They won't always lead you to places you will like but they will always serve you well.
I don't always agree with Willence on alot of topics, but boy, you are sure bringing the heat on your posts and not much rebuttal.
Very well done Sir.
@andcam this is another misrepresentation of facts. President Bush worked and entertained foreign leaders a great deal at his Crawford ranch. This is being called vacation time by Democrats, but it wasn't. It's just another case of people spewing stupid lies that they don't even take the time to understand. Like I have said til I am blue in the face... Try the truth on for size. It might fit you better than you think but it won't allow you to validate your views constantly with crap you get from Occupy Democrats and the likes.
Here's a list of Head's of State who visited President Bush in Crawford. This perfectly illustrates what I'm saying. It doesn't say in the Constitution that a President HAS to work in Washington.
November 14-15, 2001 Russian President Vladimir Putin
April 5-7, 2002 British Prime Minister Tony Blair
April 25, 2002 Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah
August 27, 2002 Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar Bin Sultan
October 25, 2002 Chinese President Jiang Zimen
February 21-22, 2003 Spanish President Jose Maria Aznar
May 2-3, 2003 Australian Prime Minister John Howard
May 22-23, 2003 Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi
July 20-21, 2003 Italian Prime Minister Silvo Berlusconi
March 5-6, 2004 Mexican President Vicente Fox
April 12, 2004 Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak
November 24, 2004 King Juan Carlos And Queen Sofia Of Spain had a brief lunch at the ranch
March 23, 2005 Mexican President Vicente Fox, Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in a Trilateral Summit held in Waco, Texas at Baylor University then headed to the ranch for lunch
April 11, 2005 Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon stayed overnight at the Hilton Hotel in Waco, Texas and went to the ranch for lunch
April 25, 2005 Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah met at the ranch for lunch after receiving dignitaries at his Dallas hotel, the Gaylord Texan (now King Abdullah)
August 4, 2005 Colombian President Alvaro Uribe
http://www.crawford-texas.org/id1.html
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Thank you for joining in... I knew you would... just continue to read through the thread you may find your answers.
In terms of public debt, yes, roughly (closer to 6T). Total debt when Bush left was ~ 10T
Share of current U.S. federal debt by presidency, November 30, 2015
Presidency Share of
total debt
accrued[13][18]
Barack Obama 47.0%
George W. Bush 23.0%
Bill Clinton 8.5%
George Bush 7.5%
Ronald Reagan 9.0%
Jimmy Carter 1.5%
All other Presidents 3.5%
Share of current U.S. federal debt by Speaker of the House, January 29, 2016
Speakership Share of
total debt
accrued[13]
Paul Ryan, R (2015) 4.5%
John Boehner, R (2011-2015) 22.0%
Nancy Pelosi, D (2007-2010) 28.0%
Dennis Hastert, R (1999-2006) 16.0%
Newt Gingrich, R (1995-1998) 4.0%
Thomas Foley, D (1989-1994) 10.5%
Jim Wright, D (1987-1989) 3.0%
Thomas P. O'Neill, D (1977-1986) 8.0%
Carl Albert, D (1971-1976) 1.5%
All other Speakers 2.0%
This is correct. It was $5.6T roughly when Bush took over and $10T when he left. Bush needed to implement a war tax to pay for our conflicts in Afghan and Iraq. He also needed to put the war on the books and have our nation actually declare war! I believe Bush is a good man who did his best in many ways but it wasn't good enough in many ways. He was a big government conservative and that is not something we need. I like him personally but I would not vote for him again. We need better fiscal leadership.
Bush's liberal spending shouldn't be confused with what many fiscal conservatives want.
And I agree with whomever mentioned that we need to address the big 3 spending areas if we're going to get this under control. SS needs to be reformed for starters. The fact that SS and medicare/medicaid are bankrupting the government is just evidence that the government shouldn't manage such sweeping social programs.
And I agree with whomever mentioned that we need to address the big 3 spending areas if we're going to get this under control. SS needs to be reformed for starters. The fact that SS and medicare/medicaid are bankrupting the government is just evidence that the government shouldn't manage such sweeping social programs.
