@iceheart08 calm down. This thread is going well and peacefully.
OT: Vegas Shootings
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According to @iceheart08 and @dbjork6317 , that makes you a tinfoil hat wearing, infowars loving, 9/11 truther. You can always count on those guys for some good civil discourse.
I too would like to know how he managed to acquire that armada, and some other logistical stuff, before I felt comfortable that he did this totally unaided. He may have, lets just get the details wrapped up.
There should be enough cameras in Vegas to piece it together.
I think even the police think there was at least one other person involved. I think the police are keeping things close to the vest and things will come out soon.
I'm interested in his autopsy & if he was under any meds. I do think it's coming out that he was not a nice person even before the shooting.
You have large populations across the world that think the Holocaust didn't happen either. Never underestimate the ability of people to view "facts" through their own cultural lenses.
One of the biggest dipshits on planet Earth.
your suggestion at the bottom here, is very different than Amy's suggestion that there are "major holes" in the story.
I think you assumed she meant false flag type bs. I sure as hell hope she was just talking about details, and how logistically it could have gone down as opposed to this slaughter happened to create a narrative to restrict gun ownership. I'm going to assume she hasn't gone to that level of "conspiracy"-maybe I'm just being glass half full though.
I don't think she can be ruled out completely as having no involvement. I'm not saying it's a terrorist act, but @tallulahtiger30319 is right there is too much terrorism activity in the Philippines to dismiss it out of hand as impossible.
This. I don’t think iceheart is being fair to amy here. Holes can mean lots of things.
Reporting suggesting FBI involved in cover-up.
Bellagio Hotel guests have pics and sounds of that hotel in the shooting too. Someone cleaned up broken glass captured in guests' phone photos.
Guy who was claimed to do it was shoot by other parties.
This guy managed real estate and had no access to the millions of $'s he was sending to ISIS and Philippines
The few casings found in perp's room are no where close to the 1000's of rounds shot determined by military experts.
Someone solicited police assistance from San Francisco, really. Did you see who San Francisco sent, talk about diversity persuasion.
Hotel owners implicated
Antifa implicated
Democrats implicated
Hmmm...?
Paranoia...?
If you read Amy's post expecting a certain tone you will almost certainly find it. Maybe just let Amy speak without looking for offense.
Well he got about 400 lbs of equipment up 30 floors and set up a concealed sniper nest. He disarmed fire alarms and and security systems in casino. He removed an 800 lb hurricane glass and for 10 min continuously ran a fully automatic weapon. All with no training and no motive? And he's an out of shape 64 year old man. Seems odd to me.
you can put the stuff on dolly's and wheel them into an elevator.
He had the money and time to put the whole thing together. The only thing thats odd is the ISIS connection to me.
Its really weird that a retiree would just go off the farm like that.
I never saw where he disarmed fire alarms and security systems.
They said he set up cameras to see if security came to door or hallway.
I thought that was how they found the room, from a smoke alarm going off.
There is no ISIS connection. ISIS claimed it immediately as they always do whenever any terrorist attacks anywhere and some far right websites immediately ran with it but that's it. It was just a whack job that went off the rails.
I’d expect more from you! You know they don’t share all the details of an investigation with everyone as it comes in. Especially in this case where there is a $ trail and the girlfriend is a person of interest
You know man, like the ISIS connection.
It certainly can't be that the guy is just an undiagnosed psychopath. There has to be something more for people to talk about.
Actually, they don’t claim responsibility for everything. This one is fishy in how quick they claimed responsibility though and I don’t believe there are any connections. That being said, I assure you they’re investigating any and all potential ties and his travels
Could bring anything up to your room in bags and arouse no suspicion. Then put the do not disturb sign on your door and do whatever you want in the room. That part is not hard to fathom. Nor is buying that many guns and rounds and expecting people in the US to think twice.
We don't have 1/4 the information some of it probably isn't even correct and everybody is letting their imagination fill in the blanks. Conspiracies are ripe for these type of situations where you don't want to and can't fathom why.
We don't have 1/4 the information some of it probably isn't even correct and everybody is letting their imagination fill in the blanks. Conspiracies are ripe for these type of situations where you don't want to and can't fathom why.
I once did an electronic support convention in Vegas. I was working a booth for a software company and had all the booth equipment in my room the first night because the show floor wasn't open yet. I bet I wheeled 800 lbs worth of crap to my room and no one looked twice. It's Vegas. Between golf bags and stuff like what I had it doesn't stick out in the least.
Take a look at this.
At the beggining there are shots and then the echo. Sever seconds later you can hear shots but at a much further distance without echo. They appear to be coming from two different spots...
At the beggining there are shots and then the echo. Sever seconds later you can hear shots but at a much further distance without echo. They appear to be coming from two different spots...
Has anybody asked Sammy Watkins what he thinks? I'd be interested to know.
One correction tho. Not technically full auto I don't think. Not that it matters to the dead people. I agree it's not believable. The window bothers me the most I think. How'd he do that. Did he remove the glass?
That's already been debunked as has most of this. Notice Amy's "holes" come verbatim from one of these-
http://www.snopes.com/las-vegas-shooting-rumors-hoaxes-and-conspiracy-theories/
http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/
He didn't. He shot through it. There are clear pictures from afterwards that show it.
He smashed the glass with a hammer. I'm not sure what the building code in Nevada requires perhaps someone in construction would know how thick the glass would be. I guess he could have also shot the glass out but there was a type of hammer in his room.
It is jagged glass around edges.
Hammer, shoot or out plenty of logical possibilities
