Perry Noble Rumor
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I am thinking they arent as bad as people think. I dont like Perry, and I dont like his teachings (however I do agree with some things he says that other pastors won't), but I seriously doubt this is some terrible thing.
If there is complimentary kool-aid Sunday I would recommend passing..
I started attending new spring when less than 200 did. I became a member when there were less than 500, it was the first church I ever "joined." All that being said I would not join today were I to return to the upstate.
All that said, it's weird how they are framing this, not denying anything and turning eyes to their service. If it were overly negative you think they'd diffuse it and get out in front of it.
All that said, it's weird how they are framing this, not denying anything and turning eyes to their service. If it were overly negative you think they'd diffuse it and get out in front of it.
Thumbing through an article on my day off, I stumbled upon an old article from years ago. When I first read this blog, I had no idea of a few names until I moved to Greenville. Having read the blog again I found this below. Holy crap is that Ben Milstead of WCCP??
Forged resignation letter
On June 13, Ben Milstead mailed a signed resignation letter in my name to the provost at Anderson University, where I am a tenured associate professor of communication. On June 16, the provost emailed me to communicate his regret at my resignation. I informed him that it was a hoax and, thankfully, retained my job.
Milstead later explained that he had discussed the plan to send the letter with Maxwell, and they had wanted it to draw the university’s attention to my blog, with the goal of having them censor it or shut it down.
It didn’t work that way, and their assumption demonstrated a poor understanding of the place of debate within a Christian liberal arts institution. University administrators have never talked to me about my blog, either to praise it or condemn it. So long as I’m not speaking for the university–and I’m not–, our robust academic community encourages thinking and debate on a wide range of important issues.
Most chillingly, on July 18, just four days after the birth, an anonymous comment was submitted to my blog by someone calling himself Marco Polo that said, “Thankful children’s agencies read Pajama Pages.” I knew what that meant–my blog was the reason the adoption had failed. I traced the IP address of Marco Polo to Ben Milstead, Maxwell’s friend and the person who had sent my fake resignation letter.
Read the blog here
Forged resignation letter
On June 13, Ben Milstead mailed a signed resignation letter in my name to the provost at Anderson University, where I am a tenured associate professor of communication. On June 16, the provost emailed me to communicate his regret at my resignation. I informed him that it was a hoax and, thankfully, retained my job.
Milstead later explained that he had discussed the plan to send the letter with Maxwell, and they had wanted it to draw the university’s attention to my blog, with the goal of having them censor it or shut it down.
It didn’t work that way, and their assumption demonstrated a poor understanding of the place of debate within a Christian liberal arts institution. University administrators have never talked to me about my blog, either to praise it or condemn it. So long as I’m not speaking for the university–and I’m not–, our robust academic community encourages thinking and debate on a wide range of important issues.
Most chillingly, on July 18, just four days after the birth, an anonymous comment was submitted to my blog by someone calling himself Marco Polo that said, “Thankful children’s agencies read Pajama Pages.” I knew what that meant–my blog was the reason the adoption had failed. I traced the IP address of Marco Polo to Ben Milstead, Maxwell’s friend and the person who had sent my fake resignation letter.
Read the blog here
This is how I feel. I went, not regularly, back when I was at Clemson in the early 2000s. It has completely changed since then.
http://www.pajamapages.com/holy-rage-at-the-spring-2/
I think it might be Milstead, and you can read about what happened to the Anderson Prof in the link above.
I think it might be Milstead, and you can read about what happened to the Anderson Prof in the link above.
Rumor going around that Noble is converting to Islam.
Likely not true, but would be up there with the greatest heel turns of all time.
Likely not true, but would be up there with the greatest heel turns of all time.
I have similar thoughts/experiences. That said, the modus operandi of PN and NS has been to promote, promote, promote openly and to the Nth degree when something "positive" was/is happening.
The only thing I've seen is their PR folks essentially just waiting to address anything until Sunday. That, to me, speaks to it being negative And they are trying to gather info/etc.
That's just my opinion and I really hope it isn't true bc I have nothing against him or the church and there was a time when NS helped my family and I in our walks with Jesus more than any other church I've ever attended. Not so much anymore but that's more personal preference.
Son of a bitch. You beat me to it.
I'm sorry but many small town southern baptists worship their pastor too.
I go to NewSpring and I associate with God first and my church community second. I don't associate myself with a pastor at all. Maybe I'm doing it wrong
I go to NewSpring and I associate with God first and my church community second. I don't associate myself with a pastor at all. Maybe I'm doing it wrong
I'm a believer and I totally agree with what you said Ron.
A young OF was watching Bash at The Beach when it happened and I was furious lmao
I was more of a WWF guy. WCW sucked.
Brad Cooper needs to be the future of that church. He's pretty awesome.
I've known Brad since he was a small child. He's a fine young man and comes from a great family. He would do an outstanding job.
Could you imagine.
Perry comes out on Sunday in a "I <3 My Church" T-Shirt and rips it off to reveal traditional Islamic dress underneath and then high fives an Obama impersonator.
The heel heat would be unstoppable. Way more Starbucks Cups thrown onstage than trash in this gif.
May be more of a Mel Gibson situation than a Jerry Sandusky one.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/n...-over-domestic-other-issues-on-sunday-166203/
NewSpring Church to Address Rumors Perry Noble Has Been Fired Over Domestic, Other Issues on Sunday
NewSpring Church, a popular megachurch in South Carolina that averages a weekly attendance of 30,000 people at multiple campuses in that state, said they will address on Sunday growing whispers that Perry Noble, the church's founding and senior pastor, was fired this week.
The Christian post was informed Thursday by a source close to the church that Perry's alleged firing was triggered by a "terrible marriage, alcoholism and maybe more."
Noble did not respond to queries made by CP via email on Thursday.
When asked about Perry's current status at NewSpring Church and if she could confirm whether or not Perry has been fired, a volunteer worker at the church also told CP Thursday, "I don't know anything about that." She said as far as she knew, Noble was on vacation. She then directed further questions to the church's public relations department headed by Suzanne Swift.
Responding to CP on Thursday night, Swift issued a standard email she also sent to a few other outlets asking similar questions about Noble's status at the church.
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"Hey Leonardo, It's great to hear from you! I would love to invite you to join us at church this Sunday to learn more from Perry and NewSpring Church. We will have services on Sunday at 9:15am, 11:15am, 4pm or 6pm at our Anderson Campus, located at 2940 Concord Road," she wrote.
Shortly after, she was asked if she could provide further details about the rumors as well as Noble's alleged marital troubles and alcoholism.
Swift replied: "Hey Leonardo, I hope you'll be able to be at church. If not in person, you can watch online to learn more from Perry and NewSpring on Sunday at NewSpring.cc."
Local news station WYFF reported that the megachurch held a closed meeting of its leadership Thursday afternoon and also declined requests to discuss what the meeting was about.
Williamston Town Councilman Rockey Burgess, a NewSpring member, told Independent Mail that he had heard rumors but had no concrete information about what was happening with Noble.
"I can tell you I certainly believe in what the church is doing as far as trying to reach people," he said. "It may not be traditional to some, but it reaches people who may not be reached otherwise."
State Rep. Anne Thayer also told Independent Mail that she and her family have been attending NewSpring since it was a "small church" with a congregation of 200.
"I can't imagine that Perry would leave," she said. "He has always said: 'I'm here and this is where I want to stay. If he left, it would be devastating."
In 2014 Noble revealed that he had been taking anti-depressants since 2012 after years of struggling with anxiety and suicidal thoughts.
His struggle began, he said, with a mental episode in 2008 and it continued for three years without medication.
"It was brutal. I even gave suicide serious consideration. However, through a series of situations in my life that needed to be changed, along with some intense and excellent biblical counseling, I was able to come through the storm that had dominated me for so long," wrote Noble.
"My doctor and I considered medication during this process, and while it was strongly considered, we both decided that, though it was not wrong to take it, it was not the right thing for me at the time," he said.
Perry explained that, after getting the victory over that episode without the use of medication, he decided to do a series about stress, anxiety and depression at his church in the spring of 2012. He eventually decided to write a book about it called Overwhelmed that was released on April 1, 2014.
It was during the book writing process, he explained, that he began slipping away again.
"As I began the writing process the feelings of anxiety and worry began to slowly slither back into my life like a snake sneaking up on its prey. I remember writing a chapter in the book, driving home and having a panic attack in my living room," he wrote.
When the situation got too much for him, he said he reached out to his doctor and reluctantly gave in to treat his condition with anti-depressants.
Noble's wife, Lucretia, is a medical doctor. They live with their daughter, Charisse, in Anderson, South Carolina.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/n...-over-domestic-other-issues-on-sunday-166203/
NewSpring Church to Address Rumors Perry Noble Has Been Fired Over Domestic, Other Issues on Sunday
NewSpring Church, a popular megachurch in South Carolina that averages a weekly attendance of 30,000 people at multiple campuses in that state, said they will address on Sunday growing whispers that Perry Noble, the church's founding and senior pastor, was fired this week.
The Christian post was informed Thursday by a source close to the church that Perry's alleged firing was triggered by a "terrible marriage, alcoholism and maybe more."
Noble did not respond to queries made by CP via email on Thursday.
When asked about Perry's current status at NewSpring Church and if she could confirm whether or not Perry has been fired, a volunteer worker at the church also told CP Thursday, "I don't know anything about that." She said as far as she knew, Noble was on vacation. She then directed further questions to the church's public relations department headed by Suzanne Swift.
Responding to CP on Thursday night, Swift issued a standard email she also sent to a few other outlets asking similar questions about Noble's status at the church.
"Hey Leonardo, It's great to hear from you! I would love to invite you to join us at church this Sunday to learn more from Perry and NewSpring Church. We will have services on Sunday at 9:15am, 11:15am, 4pm or 6pm at our Anderson Campus, located at 2940 Concord Road," she wrote.
Shortly after, she was asked if she could provide further details about the rumors as well as Noble's alleged marital troubles and alcoholism.
Swift replied: "Hey Leonardo, I hope you'll be able to be at church. If not in person, you can watch online to learn more from Perry and NewSpring on Sunday at NewSpring.cc."
Local news station WYFF reported that the megachurch held a closed meeting of its leadership Thursday afternoon and also declined requests to discuss what the meeting was about.
Williamston Town Councilman Rockey Burgess, a NewSpring member, told Independent Mail that he had heard rumors but had no concrete information about what was happening with Noble.
"I can tell you I certainly believe in what the church is doing as far as trying to reach people," he said. "It may not be traditional to some, but it reaches people who may not be reached otherwise."
State Rep. Anne Thayer also told Independent Mail that she and her family have been attending NewSpring since it was a "small church" with a congregation of 200.
"I can't imagine that Perry would leave," she said. "He has always said: 'I'm here and this is where I want to stay. If he left, it would be devastating."
In 2014 Noble revealed that he had been taking anti-depressants since 2012 after years of struggling with anxiety and suicidal thoughts.
His struggle began, he said, with a mental episode in 2008 and it continued for three years without medication.
"It was brutal. I even gave suicide serious consideration. However, through a series of situations in my life that needed to be changed, along with some intense and excellent biblical counseling, I was able to come through the storm that had dominated me for so long," wrote Noble.
"My doctor and I considered medication during this process, and while it was strongly considered, we both decided that, though it was not wrong to take it, it was not the right thing for me at the time," he said.
Perry explained that, after getting the victory over that episode without the use of medication, he decided to do a series about stress, anxiety and depression at his church in the spring of 2012. He eventually decided to write a book about it called Overwhelmed that was released on April 1, 2014.
It was during the book writing process, he explained, that he began slipping away again.
"As I began the writing process the feelings of anxiety and worry began to slowly slither back into my life like a snake sneaking up on its prey. I remember writing a chapter in the book, driving home and having a panic attack in my living room," he wrote.
When the situation got too much for him, he said he reached out to his doctor and reluctantly gave in to treat his condition with anti-depressants.
Noble's wife, Lucretia, is a medical doctor. They live with their daughter, Charisse, in Anderson, South Carolina.
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Don't see it happening dumb ass...Could you imagine.
Perry comes out on Sunday in a "I <3 My Church" T-Shirt and rips it off to reveal traditional Islamic dress underneath and then high fives an Obama impersonator.
The heel heat would be unstoppable. Way more Starbucks Cups thrown onstage than trash in this gif.
I'm really curious to see if these rumors are true. Historically these style churches- The Seeker-Sensitive Churches collapse when the founding pastor leaves. Check out Mars Hill Church story for perspective. This church was very similar in style, organization, and development to NewSpring. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/the-rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill-church/
Probably a move to get attendance up over the summer months, lol.
I am going with this is a giant publicity stunt to get more people in the pews on Sunday.
Would be the greatest troll of all time if he is just trying to boost attendance and tithes! Might break a record or something.
Yes that's him. I read that story years ago. Milstead is a slime ball that's as fake as they come.
It would be just shy of Milo Yiannopolous work as a troll, but on a level that is unimaginable to @PertsCorner.
