Perry Noble Rumor
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Yea I'm sure he's on TI, too. What kind of person harasses someone to that extent and even sabotages their adoption process??
Would be sickening but almost kind of expected. Hopefully not though because you know the sec coaches would be using it to recruit against us.
Why scream Anglergirl?
THE KIND OF LOSER THAT GAVE YOUR MOM THE PIPE LAST NIGHT!!!
Holy crap!!
Here's a link to the full blog entry: http://www.pajamapages.com/holy-rage-at-the-spring-2/
What happened to that guy is unbelievable. If this is true, and it reads very believable, then Perry Noble is such a scum bag!
IMO, if it weren't true you'd imagine NS would've sued the shit out of him.
I don't think he was directly involved with sabotaging the adoption, but did leave the blog comment. FWIW, here's what the author said about Ben, afterwards:
Ben Milstead, who sent the resignation letter and mentioned the adoption failure in an anonymous message to me. Unlike the folk in the church’s leadership, Milstead has been a standup guy about taking responsibility and restoring relationships. Though he and I both regret what he did this summer, we have met in person since then and had a cleansing dialog. Ben continues to post comments on this blog, usually disagreeing with me, though in a courteous manner. We occasionally correspond with each other privately through email, and, remarkably enough, I would count him as a friend. It was my experience with Ben that gave me some hope that perhaps I could come to the same level of friendly, respectful disagreement with Noble that would be the basis for that first option that I outlined earlier.
Finding it odd that I dropped this article in the middle of this 3-pager and no one has mentioned it. Perry is likely donesky and may be walking out like Cersei Lannister.May be more of a Mel Gibson situation than a Jerry Sandusky one.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/n...-over-domestic-other-issues-on-sunday-166203/
NewSpring Church to Address Rumors Perry Noble Has Been Fired Over Domestic, Other Issues on Sunday
NewSpring Church, a popular megachurch in South Carolina that averages a weekly attendance of 30,000 people at multiple campuses in that state, said they will address on Sunday growing whispers that Perry Noble, the church's founding and senior pastor, was fired this week.
The Christian post was informed Thursday by a source close to the church that Perry's alleged firing was triggered by a "terrible marriage, alcoholism and maybe more."
Noble did not respond to queries made by CP via email on Thursday.
When asked about Perry's current status at NewSpring Church and if she could confirm whether or not Perry has been fired, a volunteer worker at the church also told CP Thursday, "I don't know anything about that." She said as far as she knew, Noble was on vacation. She then directed further questions to the church's public relations department headed by Suzanne Swift.
Responding to CP on Thursday night, Swift issued a standard email she also sent to a few other outlets asking similar questions about Noble's status at the church.
(PHOTO: SCREENGRAB)
"Hey Leonardo, It's great to hear from you! I would love to invite you to join us at church this Sunday to learn more from Perry and NewSpring Church. We will have services on Sunday at 9:15am, 11:15am, 4pm or 6pm at our Anderson Campus, located at 2940 Concord Road," she wrote.
Shortly after, she was asked if she could provide further details about the rumors as well as Noble's alleged marital troubles and alcoholism.
Swift replied: "Hey Leonardo, I hope you'll be able to be at church. If not in person, you can watch online to learn more from Perry and NewSpring on Sunday at NewSpring.cc."
Local news station WYFF reported that the megachurch held a closed meeting of its leadership Thursday afternoon and also declined requests to discuss what the meeting was about.
Williamston Town Councilman Rockey Burgess, a NewSpring member, told Independent Mail that he had heard rumors but had no concrete information about what was happening with Noble.
"I can tell you I certainly believe in what the church is doing as far as trying to reach people," he said. "It may not be traditional to some, but it reaches people who may not be reached otherwise."
State Rep. Anne Thayer also told Independent Mail that she and her family have been attending NewSpring since it was a "small church" with a congregation of 200.
"I can't imagine that Perry would leave," she said. "He has always said: 'I'm here and this is where I want to stay. If he left, it would be devastating."
In 2014 Noble revealed that he had been taking anti-depressants since 2012 after years of struggling with anxiety and suicidal thoughts.
His struggle began, he said, with a mental episode in 2008 and it continued for three years without medication.
"It was brutal. I even gave suicide serious consideration. However, through a series of situations in my life that needed to be changed, along with some intense and excellent biblical counseling, I was able to come through the storm that had dominated me for so long," wrote Noble.
"My doctor and I considered medication during this process, and while it was strongly considered, we both decided that, though it was not wrong to take it, it was not the right thing for me at the time," he said.
Perry explained that, after getting the victory over that episode without the use of medication, he decided to do a series about stress, anxiety and depression at his church in the spring of 2012. He eventually decided to write a book about it called Overwhelmed that was released on April 1, 2014.
It was during the book writing process, he explained, that he began slipping away again.
"As I began the writing process the feelings of anxiety and worry began to slowly slither back into my life like a snake sneaking up on its prey. I remember writing a chapter in the book, driving home and having a panic attack in my living room," he wrote.
When the situation got too much for him, he said he reached out to his doctor and reluctantly gave in to treat his condition with anti-depressants.
Noble's wife, Lucretia, is a medical doctor. They live with their daughter, Charisse, in Anderson, South Carolina.
Finding it odd that I dropped this article in the middle of this 3-pager and no one has mentioned it. Perry is likely donesky and may be walking out like Cersei Lannister.
That is what I meant by this post.
I have changed my position, is this history repeating itself?
I do not go to Newspring and I do not think most members their think of Perry as a God - but a church with
a head pastor like Perry the attendees do tend to ignore what their leader is doing, behaving, or just leading the rest of the week. They see what happens on Sunday and think what a great job he is doing, but they really don't pay attention to what is happening the behind the scenes.No clue what is going to happen with Perry. or if it is bad, but
if bad, it will be a hit to not only Newspring but Christianity in general.
a head pastor like Perry the attendees do tend to ignore what their leader is doing, behaving, or just leading the rest of the week. They see what happens on Sunday and think what a great job he is doing, but they really don't pay attention to what is happening the behind the scenes.No clue what is going to happen with Perry. or if it is bad, but
if bad, it will be a hit to not only Newspring but Christianity in general.
Yes they do, Certainly not all of them, and may not most of them.
But for him to say the things he does in the pulpit, and get away with it, proves that. And if he were to ever leave the church, the amount of people who would quit coming would also prove it.
No matter what happens to Perry Noble, it won't really leave much of a mark on Christianity. I've noted before that I am Catholic. The sins committed by people who were Catholic religious (not only the sexual misdeeds but the terrible conditions Irish nuns put unmarried mothers in, the fact that Jesuits owned and sold slaves) are repulsive. Still, the underlying faith is what keeps people continuing to worship. There have been PLENTY of Christian ministers who have fallen to the ground over sex, money, addictions. Christianity will survive.
I'm not a fan of what I've read about PN but we are all human. We all have temptations and over the course of our lives most of us - at one time or another - give in to them. Then, like a Phoenix, we are often able to return to the good graces of God, our families, society.
I'm not a fan of what I've read about PN but we are all human. We all have temptations and over the course of our lives most of us - at one time or another - give in to them. Then, like a Phoenix, we are often able to return to the good graces of God, our families, society.
I would not at all put it past Perry Noble or his ilk to fake some monumentally scandalous announcement to teach some obscene moral lesson about gossip.
FITSNews is looking into it, the truth will be online soon my friends
Would it be inappropriate to attend service Sunday with a giant bucket of popcorn?
Assuming all this is true and is a serious issue....
Seriously do you think anyone thinks Christianity will perish because of this...a bit dramatic
However if you think this will not affect a lot of people lives that believed in him and led to Christianity by him then you are mistaken. There are people in his church that will be affected , feel let down, and question their decision. A lot of the people he catered to and tried to influence are ones whose previous habits and old personalities will resurface as they will feel hurt. Simply stated this will test there new faith and cause them to revert.
I almost believe that this is some elaborate scheme to draw people in to see, what they think will be, the carnage. Then, the sermon will be about how we as a society love to see people fail or get hurt.
"if bad, it will be a hit to not only Newspring but Christianity in general." -caltigers
As long as you put 10% in the plate
Most likely. I live
Yes. I live in H'vlle. Go to FBC. Coopers are in my SS class. I know who you are.
May be more of a Mel Gibson situation than a Jerry Sandusky one.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/n...-over-domestic-other-issues-on-sunday-166203/
NewSpring Church to Address Rumors Perry Noble Has Been Fired Over Domestic, Other Issues on Sunday
NewSpring Church, a popular megachurch in South Carolina that averages a weekly attendance of 30,000 people at multiple campuses in that state, said they will address on Sunday growing whispers that Perry Noble, the church's founding and senior pastor, was fired this week.
The Christian post was informed Thursday by a source close to the church that Perry's alleged firing was triggered by a "terrible marriage, alcoholism and maybe more."
Noble did not respond to queries made by CP via email on Thursday.
When asked about Perry's current status at NewSpring Church and if she could confirm whether or not Perry has been fired, a volunteer worker at the church also told CP Thursday, "I don't know anything about that." She said as far as she knew, Noble was on vacation. She then directed further questions to the church's public relations department headed by Suzanne Swift.
Responding to CP on Thursday night, Swift issued a standard email she also sent to a few other outlets asking similar questions about Noble's status at the church.
(PHOTO: SCREENGRAB)
"Hey Leonardo, It's great to hear from you! I would love to invite you to join us at church this Sunday to learn more from Perry and NewSpring Church. We will have services on Sunday at 9:15am, 11:15am, 4pm or 6pm at our Anderson Campus, located at 2940 Concord Road," she wrote.
Shortly after, she was asked if she could provide further details about the rumors as well as Noble's alleged marital troubles and alcoholism.
Swift replied: "Hey Leonardo, I hope you'll be able to be at church. If not in person, you can watch online to learn more from Perry and NewSpring on Sunday at NewSpring.cc."
Local news station WYFF reported that the megachurch held a closed meeting of its leadership Thursday afternoon and also declined requests to discuss what the meeting was about.
Williamston Town Councilman Rockey Burgess, a NewSpring member, told Independent Mail that he had heard rumors but had no concrete information about what was happening with Noble.
"I can tell you I certainly believe in what the church is doing as far as trying to reach people," he said. "It may not be traditional to some, but it reaches people who may not be reached otherwise."
State Rep. Anne Thayer also told Independent Mail that she and her family have been attending NewSpring since it was a "small church" with a congregation of 200.
"I can't imagine that Perry would leave," she said. "He has always said: 'I'm here and this is where I want to stay. If he left, it would be devastating."
In 2014 Noble revealed that he had been taking anti-depressants since 2012 after years of struggling with anxiety and suicidal thoughts.
His struggle began, he said, with a mental episode in 2008 and it continued for three years without medication.
"It was brutal. I even gave suicide serious consideration. However, through a series of situations in my life that needed to be changed, along with some intense and excellent biblical counseling, I was able to come through the storm that had dominated me for so long," wrote Noble.
"My doctor and I considered medication during this process, and while it was strongly considered, we both decided that, though it was not wrong to take it, it was not the right thing for me at the time," he said.
Perry explained that, after getting the victory over that episode without the use of medication, he decided to do a series about stress, anxiety and depression at his church in the spring of 2012. He eventually decided to write a book about it called Overwhelmed that was released on April 1, 2014.
It was during the book writing process, he explained, that he began slipping away again.
"As I began the writing process the feelings of anxiety and worry began to slowly slither back into my life like a snake sneaking up on its prey. I remember writing a chapter in the book, driving home and having a panic attack in my living room," he wrote.
When the situation got too much for him, he said he reached out to his doctor and reluctantly gave in to treat his condition with anti-depressants.
Noble's wife, Lucretia, is a medical doctor. They live with their daughter, Charisse, in Anderson, South Carolina.
I can't imagine the pressure on somebody and their family in a position like that. Everybody looking for ways to tear you down, mock the people who support you, scrutinizing the Godliness of every decision you make and you having to try to live up to everyone's expectations lest you let everyone down.
If I were him I'd have stepped down long ago to try to ensure the church could function without him. Probably move to a different state entirely just to remove my family from that pressure.
WOAH WOAH IS ME THAT BEARS THE BURDEN OF COLLECTING 64 FVCKING MILLLION DOLLARS. SCREW PERRY FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT HE TAKES MONEY FROM WEAK MINDED PEOPLE. HE MAKES REFERENCES TO EVERYDAY CIRCUMSTANCES TILTING THE WRONG WAY BECAUSE YOU, YES YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN ENOUGH TO HIS EMPIRE.
It's not good from one of the former elders who is my neighbor just said it was long overdue
I would be much more concerned about Perry if he actually believed the crap he tells the sheep about tithing. Just threatening them with hell and taking their money out of greed isn't much better but at least it makes him less crazy.
I think if Dabo has a weakness it may be that he is too trusting and is too nice of a guy. All in all not a bad trait but sometimes you can get taken advantage of and roped into things if you are too nice.
I just read that blog account of his from '09. I'm nauseous. Why do people do so many bad things in the name of religion?
Dabo has distanced himself from Newspring in the previous few years, correct? We gotta keep our eye on the prize here and don't need any distractions
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