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So they want to make her President when a year ago they wanted to axe her

🤣🤣🤣 my goodness is JD Vance the gift that keeps on giving. The biggest political misstep in modern history will ultimately be how this story is told.
What'd he do this time? 😅
 
These are not highly rated pollsters so take it for what it's worth.
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lol.

Futures markets havent moved much. Hovering around 60-40 Trump.
 
What'd he do this time? 😅
There's just a new revelation seemingly every few hours that promises to be politically toxic for Trump. His views on childless parents having less of a vote than people with children is going to be an anchor around Trump's neck.
 
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There's just a new revelation seemingly every few hours that promises to be politically toxic for Trump. His views on childless parents having less of a vote than people with children is going to be an anchor around Trump's neck.
Yeah he stepped in it alright haha

 
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It was always a toss-up race. That being said, she's announced and no one really knows anything about her unless you actually follow politics and in that case, you know exactly where this ends up. She is a worse candidate than Joe Biden by far. This campaign is just starting and we'll see how disciplined Trump is as we go forward. He's got to take a very narrow way toward attacking her and it has to be policy driven and not personal. She's already attacked him in very personal ways and that will continue. It's just going to be that way because rules only go in one direction.

Also, FiveThirtyEight has been odd this year. Not sure how long ago he left but they clearly miss Nate Silver who is quite good. Might want to check out the Silver Bulletin some. We'll see over the next two weeks where we really are. It's possible the full bounce for Harris isn't reflected yet. I fully expect her to pull ahead some before this period reaches full maturity. It wouldn't shock me to see her pull out to a 3-4 point lead nationally.
 
He's got to take a very narrow way toward attacking her and it has to be policy driven and not personal. She's already attacked him in very personal ways and that will continue. It's just going to be that way because rules only go in one direction.
Are you implying he hasn't attacked her in very crude, personal ways? If so, you are a liar.
Also, FiveThirtyEight has been odd this year. Not sure how long ago he left but they clearly miss Nate Silver who is quite good.
The polls themselves are all that matters, NOT the person who runs the site.
 
It was always a toss-up race. That being said, she's announced and no one really knows anything about her unless you actually follow politics and in that case, you know exactly where this ends up. She is a worse candidate than Joe Biden by far. This campaign is just starting and we'll see how disciplined Trump is as we go forward. He's got to take a very narrow way toward attacking her and it has to be policy driven and not personal. She's already attacked him in very personal ways and that will continue. It's just going to be that way because rules only go in one direction.

Also, FiveThirtyEight has been odd this year. Not sure how long ago he left but they clearly miss Nate Silver who is quite good. Might want to check out the Silver Bulletin some. We'll see over the next two weeks where we really are. It's possible the full bounce for Harris isn't reflected yet. I fully expect her to pull ahead some before this period reaches full maturity. It wouldn't shock me to see her pull out to a 3-4 point lead nationally.
So nobody knows anything about her, yet you know she's a terrible candidate? Makes sense to me.
 
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🤣🤣🤣 I can't wait until that whole book gets picked apart lie by lie. And honestly, wtf takes seriously a 31 year old who writes a memoir.

 
There's just a new revelation seemingly every few hours that promises to be politically toxic for Trump. His views on childless parents having less of a vote than people with children is going to be an anchor around Trump's neck.
if what jd says is the way it should be, then tim scott and lindsey need to get the f out...
 
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So nobody knows anything about her, yet you know she's a terrible candidate? Makes sense to me.

I said people who don't follow politics. It's always amazing to me how the only way you can argue with anyone is to take them out of context and try to redirect the meaning. You never actually want to talk on the merits. It's a ridiculous way to be.
 
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I said people who don't follow politics. It's always amazing to me how the only way you can argue with anyone is to take them out of context and try to redirect the meaning. You never actually want to talk on the merits. It's a ridiculous way to be.
there is nothing that has happened in reality since Sunday that supports your assertion that she's a terrible candidate. In fact, all evidence points to the exact contrary.

You just personally think she's a terrible candidate because you don't like her policies, and you're mistakenly assuming everyone will see her the way you do. They clearly do not. And I'll tell you who else doesn't, the Trump campaign and congressional republicans.
 
Still not sure she makes it through the DNC as the candidate. Highly unlikeable and the polls haven’t moved since her announcement.
 
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there is nothing that has happened in reality since Sunday that supports your assertion that she's a terrible candidate. In fact, all evidence points to the exact contrary.

You just personally think she's a terrible candidate because you don't like her policies, and you're mistakenly assuming everyone will see her the way you do. They clearly do not. And I'll tell you who else doesn't, the Trump campaign and congressional republicans.
So you are telling yourself that she is the opposite of a terrible candidate or a great candidate.

How come last election she polled at 1% before dropping out?

How was she appointed the border csar, which was one of the biggest failures of this administration? How come Joe Biden relented and backtracked on their immigration policy? She was a total failure in that regard.

Kamala is just a continuation of the democrat policies which lead to Joe Bidens unpopularity. She will also do what the teleprompter tells her to do and this will lead to an open border, high inflation and DEI policies.
 
Still not sure she makes it through the DNC as the candidate. Highly unlikeable and the polls haven’t moved since her announcement.
You know that's not true and now she's got the biggest endorsement of all. She's actually surprising me by how good she's been on the stump. This race is officially tied and she may jump into the lead and not relinquish it after the DNC.


 
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So you are telling yourself that she is the opposite of a terrible candidate or a great candidate.

How come last election she polled at 1% before dropping out?
The primary vote from four years ago no longer applies since she's now been VP for 4 years. Her polling is only going to get better from here.
 
You know that's not true and now she's got the biggest endorsement of all. She's actually surprising me by how good she's been on the stump. This race is officially tied and she may jump into the lead and not relinquish it after the DNC.

The futures markets haven't moved which means the polls haven't moved.

Tell yourself whatever you want, but the saying "follow the money" applies here.
 
The primary vote from four years ago no longer applies since she's now been VP for 4 years. Her polling is only going to get better from here.
OK - so what has she done as VP in those 4 years.

I already know about the Border Csar failures, which is colossal failure.

What else should we judge her on during those 4 years since she polled 1%

What other information should we consider?
 
The futures markets haven't moved which means the polls haven't moved.

Tell yourself whatever you want, but the saying "follow the money" applies here.
OK, I will. She picked up a quarter billion in donations virtually overnight.
 
And remember, this is what she is going up against? She stands no chance.

 
OK, I will. She picked up a quarter billion in donations virtually overnight.
And that still wasn't enough to move the futures markets.

Because she is a terrible candidate.
 
OK - so what has she done as VP in those 4 years.

I already know about the Border Csar failures, which is colossal failure.

What else should we judge her on during those 4 years since she polled 1%

What other information should we consider?
What did Mike Pence or Dan Quayle do? Can you tell us?

She now has four years of executive experience, knows the players and the system, which puts her far ahead of where she was four years ago.
 
What did Mike Pence or Dan Quayle do? Can you tell us?

She now has four years of executive experience, knows the players and the system, which puts her far ahead of where she was four years ago.
No, you said that she polled 1% four years ago. I'm wondering what happened during those 4 years that would change her polling?

Did she have any accomplishments that we should consider? Help us make the jump from polling at 1% to now a great candidate. What changed during that time to help her?
 
She supported the Black Lives Matter protesters and I believe helped raise bail money for them.

Did that help her? Keep in mind BLM is actively opposed to her nomination.
 
No, you said that she polled 1% four years ago. I'm wondering what happened during those 4 years that would change her polling?

Did she have any accomplishments that we should consider? Help us make the jump from polling at 1% to now a great candidate. What changed during that time to help her?
She's got one thing going for her that Trump can't compete with - positivity. She is the only one of the two who actually seems to love this country. Trump just called our country stupid.
 
She was the Border Csar and the border is one of the weakest issues for Democrats. Democratic Mayors of large Democratically run cities are begging for mercy.

Did this help move her from 1% to "great candidate?"
 
She's got one thing going for her that Trump can't compete with - positivity. She is the only one of the two who actually seems to love this country. Trump just called our country stupid.
Trump took a bullet for our country.
 
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No, you said that she polled 1% four years ago. I'm wondering what happened during those 4 years that would change her polling?

Did she have any accomplishments that we should consider? Help us make the jump from polling at 1% to now a great candidate. What changed during that time to help her?
 
She's got one thing going for her that Trump can't compete with - positivity. She is the only one of the two who actually seems to love this country. Trump just called our country stupid.
So you can't come up with one policy achievement of hers since she polled at 1% and now you want to come on here and preach to everybody that she is a great candidate?

Kamala is a weak leader. A weak player. But that's what happens when you anoint candidates based on skin color instead of merit.
 
So you can't come up with one policy achievement of hers since she polled at 1% and now you want to come on here and preach to everybody that she is a great candidate?

Kamala is a weak leader. A weak player. But that's what happens when you anoint candidates based on skin color instead of merit.
She has a great track record of supporting women so dismiss her at your own peril

 
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