Sorta OT: Ho Lee Sheet how can someone be this stoopid

[scotchtiger]

Budget guidance from today:

"Meanwhile, the budget aims to implement new welfare requirements -- namely, that Americans 18-65 years old work at least 20 hours a week in a job, a job training program or a community service program to secure a range of benefits and aid.

According to the administration, the work requirement would apply to federal programs like food stamps, Medicaid, and federal housing, but would come with a hardship exemption.

The budget also includes a national paid family leave proposal and seeks money to establish the Space Force as a new branch of the military, while sharply curbing spending on domestic safety-net programs. The outline includes a total of $2.7 trillion in nondefense spending cuts and the administration says the proposal would put the federal government on track to balance the budget by 2034."

I like all of these things. Making able-bodied people contribute in some way to get a government check is just obvious. I would layer in entitlement cuts (via eligibility age increases) and probably try to limit the amount defense increased.

 

[Mr. Roger Dorn]

Budget guidance from today:

"Meanwhile, the budget aims to implement new welfare requirements -- namely, that Americans 18-65 years old work at least 20 hours a week in a job, a job training program or a community service program to secure a range of benefits and aid.

According to the administration, the work requirement would apply to federal programs like food stamps, Medicaid, and federal housing, but would come with a hardship exemption.

The budget also includes a national paid family leave proposal and seeks money to establish the Space Force as a new branch of the military, while sharply curbing spending on domestic safety-net programs. The outline includes a total of $2.7 trillion in nondefense spending cuts and the administration says the proposal would put the federal government on track to balance the budget by 2034."

I like all of these things. Making able-bodied people contribute in some way to get a government check is just obvious. I would layer in entitlement cuts (via eligibility age increases) and probably try to limit the amount defense increased.

Hyped up over Space Force?

 

[dpotter24]

What a terrible opinion. I hope that one day you come to realize how wrong you are.

That will never happen. Please, hold your breath though on it!

 

[dpotter24]

This is, obviously, a ridiculous oversimplification. There's a grain of truth to what you said regarding some people, but any time you're talking about millions of people there's going to be some nuance. Nothing is as cut and dried as you seem to think it is.

I'm assuming you're referring to those who grow up with bum parents, in the projects, around gangs and drugs, etc? I still firmly believe that you have the choice to say no, better yourself, and get out. It's not like it doesn't happen. It just takes one's willingness to better themselves and desire to escape/have a better life.

 

[gardentiger]

I can get being willing to trade an economic policy you want for silly tweets an unrealistic promises on other policies.

But I’m not sure that a conservative fiscal policy is worth having a president that is ready and willing to create the kind of constitutional, existential problems this one may create.

What constitutional crises? You mean like Bush II and Obama's overreach. "There is nothing new under the sun."

I’m genuinely nervous about what he might do if he doesn’t win re-election.

 

[Cabotiger]

Those folks are trolls or idiots.

This broad is somehow an elected official.

Reconfirms my belief that the 75% of the US population are mentally challenged.

Save me the Trump got elected though, remember that Hillary got the majority of the votes.

 

[nytigerfan]

That will never happen. Please, hold your breath though on it!

really surprised to hear you say that. you are the guy that lost his job and quit the board b/c you could not afford a monthly subscription to TI. Your $50K a year job that you brag about could be taken from you at any time (I sincerely hope that doesnt happen to you). You are not far removed from poverty yourself. Sadly, none of us really are no matter how much money we make. Did you take welfare when you lost your job?

 

[dpotter24]

really surprised to hear you say that. you are the guy that lost his job and quit the board b/c you could not afford a monthly subscription to TI. Your $50K a year job that you brag about could be taken from you at any time (I sincerely hope that doesnt happen to you). You are not far removed from poverty yourself. Sadly, none of us really are no matter how much money we make. Did you take welfare when you lost your job?

It's not that I "couldn't afford" it, it's that I didn't "need" it. Especially in the off-season when this board is nothing but a bunch of crap OT posts. And I "brag" about it? I have never bragged about my $53k job. I'm sure if you asked someone if they considered living on Daniel Island, paying all of my bills, going on vacations every year, and being able to buy whatever I want whenever I want to be living in "poverty", they'd disagree with you. Especially those who live in poverty. I did not take welfare when I lost my job. I don't ask for hand outs and find other sources of income (on top of receiving a decent severance package and being paid out for the old PTO I had accrued before they changed their policy to "use it or lose it").

 

[FranktheDank]

I'm assuming you're referring to those who grow up with bum parents, in the projects, around gangs and drugs, etc? I still firmly believe that you have the choice to say no, better yourself, and get out. It's not like it doesn't happen. It just takes one's willingness to better themselves and desire to escape/have a better life.

Just curious, where did you grow up and how well off is your family?

 

[dpotter24]

Just curious, where did you grow up and how well off is your family?

Born here in Charleston but my dad moved us to NH when I was 7. I came back down here while serving in the Marines and then for college and stayed. I also have my mom and my mom's half of the family who live in Charleston as well. My family isn't some rich family but my dad does really well at real estate nowadays (easily in the 6 figures). My mom has bounced around from job to job for decades and doesn't make all that much but is a staunch conservative as well (so are my dad and brother). Probably more information than you needed to know but we're not some elite status family with money up the wazoo.

 

[tigerGUY]

I'll be making Whoopi Goldberg statement true with myself one day. They get in power this country will be going down the shitter.

And fast.

 

[intermedia83]

I mean, this broad is reaching a hole knew level.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-blasts-capitalism-irredeemable-013149145.html

 

[FranktheDank]

Born here in Charleston but my dad moved us to NH when I was 7. I came back down here while serving in the Marines and then for college and stayed. I also have my mom and my mom's half of the family who live in Charleston as well. My family isn't some rich family but my dad does really well at real estate nowadays (easily in the 6 figures). My mom has bounced around from job to job for decades and doesn't make all that much but is a staunch conservative as well (so are my dad and brother). Probably more information than you needed to know but we're not some elite status family with money up the wazoo.

Sounds like you were fortunate to be born into a 2 parent family with good values and you were surrounded by a solid support system. You didn't specify but I'm assuming the community you grew up in was also pretty safe and affluent. Nothing wrong with that, my situation was similar. The thing is neither you or I chose to be born into that situation, it just happened. We grew up around parents, teachers, coaches, friends, etc that weren't poor, giving us the blueprint on how to not be poor. Our jobs were to not fvck it up.

I'm not saying all poor people are victims and I'm not going to try to change your opinion but I'm going to offer mine: It's not always as simple as you're poor because you chose to be

 

[okclem]

I'm assuming you're referring to those who grow up with bum parents, in the projects, around gangs and drugs, etc? I still firmly believe that you have the choice to say no, better yourself, and get out. It's not like it doesn't happen. It just takes one's willingness to better themselves and desire to escape/have a better life.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, no matter how ignorant or obtuse they may be. This is my single biggest problem with modern conservatives, and liberals to a lesser degree, there's just no room for nuance in your minds. You see every issue as black and white, and in the real world things just aren't that neat and tidy.

 

[scotchtiger]

I have never bragged about my $53k job. I'm sure if you asked someone if they considered living on Daniel Island, paying all of my bills, going on vacations every year, and being able to buy whatever I want whenever I want to be living in "poverty", they'd disagree with you.

HTF do you do that on $53K/yr?

 

[dpotter24]

HTF do you do that on $53K/yr?

I don’t owe student loans like a lot of people my age probably do with the GI Bill (will be 34 this year), so that helps haha. I’m also single with no kids so no other people to take care of other than myself.

 

[IMBlessed]

There really aren't many anti-Semitic comments made by prominent Republicans, partly because of where the two sides are on foreign policy. I have no doubt you'd have more of it if the anti-Israel crowd was more influential on the right. But my point is that people need to stop responding to bad behavior by one side by citing bad behavior by the other side (real, or imagined) as if it justifies anything.

I don't think anybody thinks all Democrats are as anti-Semitic as Ilhan Omar is, if they are at all. But there is a growing faction of left-leaning people, especially among the intersectional-ists, who at least excuse anti-Semitism, if they're not endorsing it, as a way trying to rank victim status. As more of these people become influential within the Democrat Party (indeed, some have been elected, while others have led protest movements like the "Women's March," and in the context of the UK, it's a problem with the leader of the Labour Party), I think they'll become a bigger and bigger headache to Democratic leadership.

I also think Democrats made a mistake in watering down their resolution against "hate." It sounded a lot like the people who immediately tried to co-opt "Black Lives Matter" into "All Lives Matter."

Well we will agree to disagree, but most of what you said I agree with! However, as you questioned my competition or quaitive posture, I will do yours also i.e. to say in your 1st sentence Republicans are less likely to be anti-Semitic; I gave you 3 prominent Republicans who’s comments were made in advance of Ms. Omar being seated in Congress! Including Our President comments after Charlottesville & silence irt Mr. King!
Both parties are filled with extremes as evidence by Nuclear Option being used to appoint Supreme Court Judges! This will come back to harm the Republicans & Our Country!
Also, I totally agree with you concerning Black Lives Matter!

 

[nytigerfan]

HTF do you do that on $53K/yr?

this, everyone I know who lives on Daniel Island lives in an $800K+ house.

 

[nytigerfan]

I don’t owe student loans like a lot of people my age probably do with the GI Bill (will be 34 this year), so that helps haha. I’m also single with no kids so no other people to take care of other than myself.

Are you a gay?

 

[padtigers]

Are you a gay?

He is single so yes he probably is happy.

 

[IMBlessed]

People are poor because they choose to be poor, IMO. No one forced them to not try in school, not attend college, not learn a skill or craft from a tech school, etc. Life is about choices.

WoW, Really? So people who have the education, worked hard, saved money, then affected by life! Life happens, can be illness, the economy and or death, Life Happens!l
Also, I saved, educated with MS degree, business owner, Christian & I chose to be a billionaire...Where is My Money Mr. DPotter!

 

[scotchtiger]

this, everyone I know who lives on Daniel Island lives in an $800K+ house.

There are a ton of new apartments over here (I work on DI). I’m sure that’s it. But yea, hard to buy a house in Smythe Park or the Park section for under $800k. Employee of mine just paid $1.4M for a house on an interior lot - granted it’s a nice house.

 

[santee]

WT fvck would you vote for this stupid libtard? Because you're a fvcking POS.

ITS flippin New York .....they will vote for any libtard no matter how out there they are

 

[dpotter24]

Are you a gay?

No and I get plenty enough pvssy

 

[dpotter24]

There are a ton of new apartments over here (I work on DI). I’m sure that’s it. But yea, hard to buy a house in Smythe Park or the Park section for under $800k. Employee of mine just paid $1.4M for a house on an interior lot - granted it’s a nice house.

Smart man. I never said I owned a house. Typical libtard @nytigerfan making assumptions

 

[CU_4734]

It’s crazy what the political climate has turned into. We have an embarrassing excuse of a leader in office now, but no one to challenge him because the big support is going toward extreme left candidates. Hickenlooper is the only 2020 candidate that doesn’t feel like you’d be settling to vote for him.



Space force?! Are you fvcking kidding me??

 

[Florida Tiger]

I’m convinced she is a plant by the Trump administration to ensure he gets elected again.

LOL....
Brilliant move by Trump...

 

[nytigerfan]

No and I get plenty enough pvssy

prove it.

 

[nytigerfan]

Smart man. I never said I owned a house. Typical libtard @nytigerfan making assumptions

you may want to try being a libtard for a while.

34, $53k a year and living in an apartment, it will be hard for you to land a quality woman to marry. You should "choose" to make more money, since it is that easy.

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

She won an election in which she received 16,000 votes and now she is driving the bus for the Left. It is sad and funny at the same time. Think about this. The Left painted themselves in a major corner. They have a screwed up Rep from Minnesota that is a Jewish hating person. The Left went into labeling people with every ism under the sun for the past 2 years and now they can not keep this lady in line because they have created this environment of being PC. Pelosi went so far as defending her by saying she does not understand the words that she is saying. Ok that is cool but why in the Hell is this lady STILL on the Foreign Affairs Committee if she does not understand the words that she speaks? Pelosi is the Grandma in the grocery store with all the grandkids and has not control over them

#1) As FOX News wants you to believe.

#2)

 

[CU Alumnus]

I wonder if this happens sometimes

If I were a political strategist, I would make Roger Stone look like a choir boy.

I would attack the candidates that I knew could beat my guy/girl. The ones that were so far left that they were unelectable I'd leave alone. No attacks. Maybe even little hints that they are a candidate my guy feared.....

.....all the while building up a file of dirt that would make this Steele Dossier look like a 3rd grade behavior sheet. And also dirt on the top 2-3 challengers that might make it.

Then about 1-2 weeks from the election, unleash almight hell upon the enemy candidate.

And if MY politically inexperienced ass can think this up, I KNOW the actual campaign managers are already 2-3 steps beyond this.

Trump is different from other presidents, but people have expressed similar fears about nearly all of the recent ones. The problem is the difference between Trump and the others is that his character is extremely low, and he really doesn’t know about or care about the norms of our government.

I don’t think that means Trump is going to do something crazy if he loses, but there’s very little you can rule out based on his behavior and character.

Every time a president faces reelection, the same fears come out. People panic. And the 24-hour news networks eat it up and feed the fear.

A few constants in politics:

1) "The president might not step down if he loses reelection...."
2) "The republican candidate is a racist/sexist/something-ist...."
3) "The democrats are coming for your guns and health insurance....."

Same bullshit, different day.

Right, she’s just an anti-Semite.

Considering what passes for racism/sexism/...-ism these days, she DEFINITELY qualifies. Plus she gave the right ammunition to use against her. Bad move, cupcake.

And if the Jews are really as powerful as everyone says they are, then she has made powerful enemies.

No, I was talking about AOC's assertion that instead of giving Amazon a $3b tax credit, they could use that money for other things, as if it existed

Someone at Boston University is REALLY wondering how the hell she escaped there with a degree right now......

Their main goal... Impeach Trump right before 2020 so that their only hope is people will be a afraid to vote for a president that's being investigated. They dont care if he actually gets charged, they just want the black eye.

For the republican side the BEST thing that the dems could do would be to impeach NOW. Then either it gets cleared out, or the Republicans can build up a campaign for Pence for President.

But the republicans need to build up Pence NOW. And make sure voters understand that if Trump is impeached out of office, Pence becomes President and gets to select his VP (and I would make Nikki Haley tell me no at least twice).

 

[CU Alumnus]

It's not that I "couldn't afford" it, it's that I didn't "need" it. Especially in the off-season when this board is nothing but a bunch of crap OT posts. And I "brag" about it? I have never bragged about my $53k job. I'm sure if you asked someone if they considered living on Daniel Island, paying all of my bills, going on vacations every year, and being able to buy whatever I want whenever I want to be living in "poverty", they'd disagree with you. Especially those who live in poverty. I did not take welfare when I lost my job. I don't ask for hand outs and find other sources of income (on top of receiving a decent severance package and being paid out for the old PTO I had accrued before they changed their policy to "use it or lose it").

If you did indeed lose your job (and I am sorry that happened if you did) the smart thing would be to ditch as much unnecessary stuff as possible - TI membership, cable TV, maid service, etc. You can always start it back up again.

If you canceled your membership because of a lost job I don't see HOW that is a negative.......

 

[CU Alumnus]

It’s crazy what the political climate has turned into. We have an embarrassing excuse of a leader in office now, but no one to challenge him because the big support is going toward extreme left candidates. Hickenlooper is the only 2020 candidate that doesn’t feel like you’d be settling to vote for him.



Space force?! Are you fvcking kidding me??

When is the last time you didn't "settle" for whoever you voted for?

Every election since Reagan (who had his warts too) has been a battle of who sucks the least.

 

[dpotter24]

you may want to try being a libtard for a while.

34, $53k a year and living in an apartment, it will be hard for you to land a quality woman to marry. You should "choose" to make more money, since it is that easy.

Someone has clearly never been to Charleston where there are far more women than men...

 

[CU Alumnus]

I mean, this broad is reaching a hole knew level.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-blasts-capitalism-irredeemable-013149145.html

I love how conservatives are so rustled by this one woman. Pretty hilarious.

It would be like a liberal on this board posting about the inane things Louie Gohmert says.

(Also "a hole new level"?? Really?)

I say we settle the whole thing with a dance-off - AOC vs Dabo.......

 

[dpotter24]

If you did indeed lose your job (and I am sorry that happened if you did) the smart thing would be to ditch as much unnecessary stuff as possible - TI membership, cable TV, maid service, etc. You can always start it back up again.

If you canceled your membership because of a lost job I don't see HOW that is a negative.......

Exactly my point. It's about being smart with your money. I started it back up after ditching it for 2 months during the off-season when I decided I didn't need it. Once I landed a job again, guess what I did? I started it back up. It's not that I couldn't afford it, I just didn't need it.

Let's not forget about the COUNTLESS folks who cut the cord on this forum and routinely ask about the best streaming services.

 

[gogetem]

When is the last time you didn't "settle" for whoever you voted for?

Every election since Reagan (who had his warts too) has been a battle of who sucks the least.

Some truth here.

I can’t remember the last time I voted for somebody. Seems like I’m always voting against somebody. Particularly this last one. In a country of 350 million the best we could do was Trump and Clinton. That’s embarrassing.

 

[nytigerfan]

Someone has clearly never been to Charleston where there are far more women than men...

To each his own I guess. i think we are just very different people. When I was your age I "chose" to make a lot more than $53K a year. With the exceptions of the early years when I left the workforce and started a business, I have always "chosen" to make significantly more money this year than I made the last. If you dont have any aspirations for upward mobility, that is your own "choice". I just don't understand why you have not "chosen" to make more money, especially being a white male.

 

[CU_4734]

When is the last time you didn't "settle" for whoever you voted for?

Every election since Reagan (who had his warts too) has been a battle of who sucks the least.

You aren’t wrong. Just seems like 2016 was terrible and 2020 is setting up to be worse.

 

[dpotter24]

To each his own I guess. i think we are just very different people. When I was your age I "chose" to make a lot more than $53K a year. With the exceptions of the early years when I left the workforce and started a business, I have always "chosen" to make significantly more money this year than I made the last. If you dont have any aspirations for upward mobility, that is your own "choice". I just don't understand why you have not "chosen" to make more money, especially being a white male.

Have you lived in NY all of your life? Obviously wages and cost of living differs in that regard. I always strive to make more than I did the previous year and I always have. To put into context, I've gone from making less than $10 an hour in 2010 and 2011 to making $53k salary in 2018 (will increase later this year in 2019). I've also had a few interviews with other companies that pay significantly more but they either had a better fit or wanted someone that had a specific certification currently (and the only way I can get it is to work for one of the companies like that one to become certified). I've got both short and long term goals and have hit them all so far.

That and you're twisting words. The "life is about choices" was about putting yourself in the position to make a good living. You can do that by working hard, studying, going to school, learning a craft or skill, etc.